KDE Plasma 6 Megarelease - A new major release after 10 years - Best Linux Desktop!?
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- A quick walkthrough of the most prominent new features of KDE Plasma 6.
Plasma is one of the most popular desktop to use on Linux. It features many customization options and settings to configure your system the way you like.
What do you think about the new release?
Which desktop you use on your Linux system?
Or do you use Plasma even on BSD?
See the release announcement:
kde.org/de/ann...
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KDE really did an EXCELLENT work, love to all devs who made and making KDE much better and better
KDE finally got the Gnome overview, yay! Kudos to the KDE team for working on this wonderful release! :)
i think so too lol
It's a great release! But, totally understandable, there are lots of little papercuts and annoyances. So [after reporting a few bugs], I've switched to old faithful Mint for the next few months while they sort out the issues :)
What bugs did you see?
Took so long because it was ALREADY great... and hard to make great BETTER---and do the usual quality work they always do!!! Can't wait to try it.
Simply the best desktop period, even when counting closed proprietary alternatives. Can't wait for Plasma 6 to come to openSUSE Tumbleweed.
Just installed it with NixOS. Flawless so far.
Glad to see Plasma 6 will be more of an evolution of Plasma 5 than KDE4 was to 3.5 way back in the day.
Improvements all seem great and there's no forced Wayland session which makes me very happy as some of the tools I need daily still refuse to function properly with Wayland.
The System Settings window looks like a mess tho.
The systemsettings are plenty and I think they made a good choice of reorganizing it. I would've placed customizability of the look and feel on top though. But I can live with it. It reminds me more of my smartphones and their menus there. Also cumbersome if you do not use the search and see it for the first time.
@@lltechview I'm no huge fan of it but I think the GNOME team nailed it along with some other DE's like Budgie.
For Plasma 5 I often find myself searching for 15 minutes before actually finding the settings I am interested in which too is the result of the devs often rearranging where things were.
Hopefully Plasma 6 in that regard is more consistent and less experimental.
Scroll jump to the place of click was also in Plasma 5, but it wasn't the default. It's astonishing that so many people think this is a new feature.
I did not know about that. Thanks for mentioning.
@@lltechviewYeah, I used it for the whole life of Plasma 5, so I even forgot that it's not the default. Working on Windows was always very frustrating because it lacked that feature that I was used to on Plasma.
sweet!... nice review.. Plasma is the best on the net.. by far!...
I agree unless you want to use i3, xmonad, or hyprland you should use KDE and if you have a toaster XFCE. Everything else is junk
I really liked the overview they had in the final 5 version, this one is a bit too gnome-like to my taste and just looks incoherent with the rest of the desktop. Tho I don't doubt the style of it is or will be fully configurable.
"...for the sake of presentation I'm switching back to the light theme". This alone made me upvote, the dark theme obsession on YT is really hurting my old eyes.
I use dark mode in everyday use most of the time, but in UA-cam videos I much prefer when they show off the light mode. Even though actual light mode hurts my eyes, it's clearer in a video where the display might be smaller and blurrier than if it's on your actual computer.
They could have atleast updated breeze gtk theme to support gtk4, thats my only major complain.
Linux distros will probably wait until the fall to bring it out because KDE 6 isn’t quite ready yet. That will coincide with the debut of Windows 24H2. Until then, expect everyone to reman on KDE 5.27.9 LTS.
Yeah the LTS distros or more stable distros usually wait. Rolling releases are pushing it out as soon as they can.
I still have 5.27.8 on my work machine and probably will have to wait for the next next version of my distro for that to change.
Floating panel dodging is here in Plasma 5 as well, it's just disabled by default.
Oh I see. How do you enable it? Just a setting in plasma-appletsrc?
@@lltechviewEnter Edit mode -> Then on the panel click More Options -> Floating Panel
@@NameUserOf I see. No effect for showing the panel though. It just appears
@@lltechviewWhat do you mean disappear? It's hovering and if the window is close to it then it transitions to a stationary one just like it does in Plasma 6, even animation is the same.
@@NameUserOf ah that you mean yeah that works. But the auto hide function is not working.
It looks GOOD- but that sliding around is what bothers me.. I guess I could still AD tiling and make ONE screen work-- right? Either that or I"m going to have to get use to XFCE or something.. If I had 2 good eyes it looks GOOD.. But.. may not work for me anymore.
Hey, can you tell me how you use touch gestures.
Yes, I know it's there.
Yes, I know there isn't an interface to configure it yet.
But, why can everyone but me use these gestures? Why?!
Three-finger swipe to switch virtual desktops, four finger swipe to toggle overview/desktop grid.
@aham4027Not working like that here. I created a few virtual desktops and the only gesture that worked was the one to switch to another virtual desktop. BUT ONLY with windows minimized and with TWO fingers.
Overview isn't triggered no matter what or how many fingers I do, I ended instead creating a sticky note on the desktops.
Not that I have a need for gestures, but still, would be nice to at least test the new features to see how they work.
One thing I don't like about Breeze is that it never looked consistent. Even with this update: some elements are going into more flat, square, straight-edge direction, some elements stay a little bit rounded (like a classic plasma 5px border or so), and some new design elements going completely rounded gnome/mac style with very rounded corners. If just look at the default panel: the panel itself is a very rounded dock, it's applications use a sharp square border to identify opened apps, and dialogs have a slightly rounded border. Breeze always feels like it's in 3+ different design styles and in constant transition to some refreshment.
Any news in the last beta update for Magic OS? Maybe video about it?
Nothing new. Just some security fixes on the update I got today.
@@lltechview thank you ♥️
Actually is more about 9 and a half years, but still, NINE YEARS ALREADY?¡
Also, it's wise to never use a .0.0 verion of a software, wait till version .0.1 on May 4 because not everything is going smooth, as expected.
edit: anyone else hate the new Spectacle? For me it's unusable. Before you knew at a glance what option was selected for screenshots, but now...? All options are listed where, which one is selected? Makes no sense. I'm still using the old version thanks to Muon that lets me freeze it in place.
None is selected; why does one option need to be selected? Just click the one you want.
@@nategraham4027When I press Print Screen, which option will be used?
Some kids still uses GNOME :D
KDE = KREAT!
Is it less crashy?
It did not crash at all for me wizh 5.27 so nothing changed there for me in version 6
How much memory does it use? The bottom panel seems too big, hope its easy to configure it.
I show in this video how to configure the size of the panel. I made it a big bigger. You can make it as small as you like as well.
Memory usage on each system depends on what is running in the background. Like I have yakuake as terminal running in the background always.
Some people have Telegram or other messaging apps running in the background.
Keep that in mind. So if you configure your system you can save some memory.
My memory usage with yakuake and system monitor running: 1.7 GiB
I can see that the Wayland 'Mouse Motion' problem is still there. It appears that most things are still not fixed. If you do not know what that is, basically when using Wayland and OBS, the mouse isn't captured properly.
I see. Did not notice that
Type to search works on workspace overview?
For me yes
Don't know much about the latest Linux. Is there a Linux primer you can recommend?
I can recommend my own distribution Neptune of course but also other distributions like KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Arch and so on are great distros. But depending on your skill level you might want to stick to the first three I mentioned.
@@lltechview& @StarNumbers:
I’d suggest ZorinOS,
literally *DESIGNED* for people who are transitioning from Windows-OS.
ua-cam.com/video/_FryhC19wu8/v-deo.htmlsi=M-XCZKcMd7dKr8Xc
If you add a secondary monitor, and you change the monitor's logical position in the display settings, disable the monitor and re-enable it, is the previous position remembered? Windows does, Gnome does not.
Not sure about disabling, but it definitely remembers even on plasma 5 when you disconnect it and reconnect it later even after restarts etc. Also monitor layout is kept between X11/wayland.
Exactly I just tested it out on my Neon installation. It works fine.
@@lltechview My SD also does this. I can plug into the same tv after a few months and it just remembers how I had it setup
When is update coming to arch?
Its not there yet? Hopefully soon then.
@@lltechview you could get final beta on extra-staging repo, but it looks like it's been take off.
Tbh, I am a bit disappointed with Plasma 6. Yes it is nice that hopefully now Plasma works better on wayland, but 99% of the feature changes do not affect me and e.g. the changes in Dolphin are so minor that they don't change the experience you have on Dolphin. Anything you could say about "old" Dolphin (e.g. being overcrowded at first sight and so on) is still true for "new" Dolphin.
So in the end, this feels very much like a small incremental feature update to me, all very conservative, nothing special, except the underlying update to Qt 6.
It looks like they set an achievable goal of switching to Qt 6, and did some reworks/improvements along with it.
@@new-lviv Yes exactly, so I am definitely not criticizing KDE! But feature-wise, it is not as big/new as many YTers make it look like.
Yeah user focused big new features are not prominently there. But I think thats what users wanted. A fast reliable desktop that does not do big changes like the switch from KDE SC 4 to Plasma 5 did or god forbid KDE 3 to KDE 4
Right, that's what our goal was, so it sounds like we succeeded. We wanted to prove that we could do a drama-free large major version bump to counteract some of the negative perceptions.
@@nategraham4027 I want to say it towards you again as I already did in my other reply: the first sentence of my original comment is not quite correct. Originally I was expecting exactly that - „just“ a successful transition with everything working great, no fundamental feature updates. And yes, it honestly seems you have succeeded in that!
What I am disappointed is a bit the hype some YTers made about all that has changed in Plasma 6.
restart and shutdown buttons don't work
That seems to be an issue with KDE Neon and upgrades. I did not have this issue on my device otherwise I wouldn't be able to shut it down.
See this bug for more information and a workaround: bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481938
Have the same issue with clean install
@@rey6253 Smells like a packaging issue then. They don't have it on testing though
Have they finally addressed the issue with kwallet? Or is it still about as secure as windows 95?
I don't know which issue you mean.
lol!
Tried today, and it had so many bugs that I simply gave up in one hr.
Wow. Which distro. Clean install or uograde from existing?
Clean install kde neon the latest user version.
@@rey6253 Yeah I heard it has bugs. The testing version works better for me. I used that for upgrading
floating taskbar by default blee big F! NO! good that can be change to normal looking taskbar without losing any space
You know it goes to normal as soon as you have a window going close to it? Like demonstrated in this video.
Otherwise yeah default choices are not always liked by everyone. I don't like the double click in folders.
@@lltechview I also prefer one click 👍
It was a complete disaster on KDE neon. Logout and shut down didn't work anymore, Papirus icon theme wasn't applied correctly. I removed it and went back to my trusted old friend Xfce. Maybe when 6.1 arrives most of the bugs and other issues are fixed. Until then no more KDE.
Oh thats sad to hear. I was able to successfully upgrade on my KDE Neon installation. Only thing I noticed there sysemsettings crashing when trying t add autostart apps. But I guess they will fix this soon enough as well.
@@lltechview I'm not the only that had problems on neon. On Tumbleweed the upgrade caused less problems🤔
@@johanb.7869 I see. Yeah large big updates can cause some issues sometimes. I am glad that I did not run into anything major.
@@lltechview Lucky I guess😉
Pretty much the same as 27.5
With lots of tweaks under the hood that makes the system faster and more stable.
@@lltechview Its less stable than 27.5 and the same speed. Dont believe everything you read in a book kid.
@@JohnSmith-lc1ml I had 5.27 running before and 6.0 is faster
@@lltechview I've never tried 6.0 and I think its slower
@@JohnSmith-lc1ml then try it if you have the chance to see for yourself.
AWW crap- they turned it into gnome-- and I HATE gnome. (lost one eye and it gives me motion sickness trying to focus on all that sliding around crap. I prefer TILING-- to look at more than one- and know how to do what I need to do with it. OH well. crap.
Its Plasma you can configure it with a few clicks
NO NO NO major problem after i updated ... nothing is working..... 2 systems KDE neon ... no reboot option after update...OMG one system i have all my work on it...
Am I the only one who had luck upgrading their Neon?
Do you have Neon User or Neon Testing?
@view User and using it for a long time 5.27 now this happened and the neon-user-20240229-0716.iso isn't working to in the live environment.... no restart or shut down not working
@@stevenmendoza472 Ok. I had testing and upgraded with that which worked fine.
@@lltechview I Tried the testing before and I saw everything working so i did the update on my system ... never had a problem like this with KDE ...
@@stevenmendoza472 yeah too bad. Not sure what went wrong there.
To bad it dont run on my 16 thread AMD with a Nvidia 4060 If everyone would stop bitching about the non open drivers from nvidia. linux versions that cant seem to make them work will not be on my machine. I dont want to take the effort to make them work if the os dont even at least boot up.
Looks like Windows Vista.
lol
Still looks just as terrible 😥
Oh. Looking nice for me. What do you hate?