What Russians think about Lenin?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - What do you think about Lenin?
4:36 - If Lenin did not exist, would Russians live better?
8:14 - Putin vs Lenin
11:33 - Mausoleum in the Moscow Center: Keep it or Destroy it?
so confused about the weather, I’m seeing a guy in a t shirt and women looking like the michelin man
It seems they don't agree about Lenin and also about the temperature.
In Russia, it's a perceived sign of coolness/superiority [among some people] to dress light in freezing weather.
@@anonymouse527 so true! And there are many jokes about it)
Agreed.i wonder how cold it really is over there
@@anonymouse527 I guess it’s a cultural crossover then since there’s so many ppl in America who willingly wear shorts when it snows or is below freezing😂
'He did his thing and then he died.'
That just about sums it up
Sums the majority of humanity up
@@alexonian2940 true
When history class is a compulsory course
That's the stupidest comment, says nothing.
It doesn't sum anything up ffs. It doesn't say anything! Lazy dimwits all over smh
When she said "he destroyed the soviet union" I wanted to put my head through a wall I wanted to cry I wanted to set something or someone on fire.
Same :(
and she looked the most russian bruh
He destroyed the soviet union by giving up on democracy and letting Stalin get to power think about it ...
@@grosezero8834 in 23 his mind started going, one of the last things he wrote was a letter saying Stalin should be removed from his position and Trotsky should be his successor. He didn't want Stalin in power, Stalin is the one who destroyed the Union.
@@ripussr1766 well he gave him the secretary role - RIP
"He destroyed the Soviet Union, right?"
Lenin rolls in the masoleum in confusion
Lol
Procede to put de right of auto determination to the republics in the soviet constitution
That is some American level of stupidity right there.
She said united/connected. It's wrong subtitles for some reason?
He destroyed russia and tagged few more countries along, dooming them for decades to come
0:47 happy to see Dostoyevski is still with us
this beard is majestic :D
even his shirt is like something from 1800's lol
Lmao
He also said a smart thing
He is wearing a t shirt in probably 30 degree weather lolol
History Test: Who was Lenin?
Me: "... I can't say more since I haven't met him in person" ( 1:07 )
Plot twist:he was lying, he's actually Rasputin
That guy wasn't dumb, he just meant that for him to say MORE about Lenin would require to get to know him personally which is obviously impossible but still he meant that we cannot trust history books telling us about historical personas. We must indeed know them personally to have our opinion be less biased depending on the author we chose to believe.
@@user-oe9vs7sr5p I know, I just found that funny, haha
"He was in the Beatles." - Average American
Just a test
1:24 reminds me of my grandma, she was born in Poland and moved to USSR in WW2, she received a socialist education and while keeping skeptical about the things around her, revered Lenin and his accomplishments for the working class. I was a kid receiving a US education and used to disagree with her without knowing why. I later learned about Lenin and read his works, now I understand my grandma and we talk about the USSR on occasion, it’s great
It's awesome that you are able to enjoy that perspective
@@RedScareClair it’s interesting because she’s seen so much. She lived under Stalin and returned decades later to Brezhnev USSR and said so much had changed. She lives in the US now but laments a lot of the guarantees that she had back in the 40s and early 50s. She had a good free education a nice home and a wonderful healthy family with good medical care and PTO. I don’t wanna get into a whole thing but yea from what she tells me, the USSR while it wasn’t heaven was generous and Lenin changed the nation forever
@@se7enei8htnin97 i don't know if i can be mad but i really do not like Lenin or communism i mean the communist Chinese government did take everything from us
Lenin’s works changed my life
When was an evil monster who murdered millions of innocent people to create a totalitarian state. He should have been hanged for crimes against humanity.
Those Russian grandmothers have more political awareness and clarity of thought than the young generation.
They did not have tik-tok when they were growing up
Soviet education system is far superior to Russian one. Current Russia is nothing more than Putin and his buddies’ oyster.
Categorically correct my comrade. I love Soviet Union and it's history. It makes my blood boil that the youths of Russia are so illiterate as compared to their babushkas.
Why i should care about something before my birth
Pretty much.
What Americans think of lenin:
He should have not married Yoko.
Hahahahah
good one)))
Wow an actually funny and original joke lol
Lenon 😭
Stfu, Donny. V. I. Lenin. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov.
Man a lot of these people don’t know much about their history. Learning from history is how you improve the future. Sounds like the young generation don’t really care about Lenin or communism but the older generation who lived in the USSR generally support him.
Millenials are simply like that. As I millenial I can confirm this. My own generation can’t name 3 major battles fought on our soil during WW2. Or commanders, or anything more than that.
Not exactly. Older people who lived in USSR have either mixed opinion on him, negative or positive. Opinions vary when it comes to older generations too.
Older generation don't know about some crimes and scary things, that were commited during Lenin times. Also they were studied in Soviet schools. Soviet historiography is the same fantasy as Americian one. Most of people in Russia of 80-90s era don't care about politics. Modern generation don't cares about history and school.
In my historicial opinion Lenin is genius of politics and politicial concurention. But during his times Russia lost 60% of all africulture and 90% of industry, lost a lot of territories, Poland, that also conquerred half of Ukraine and Belarus' , Baltics, Moldova, Finland. 10 million people died from hunger and war, all country was destroyed and was in ruins. He build socialist state.
@@arty5876 I'd like to ask what history book have you been reading? Lenin's government did not kill 10 million people, and it is only books made by the americans during the cold war that put ridiculous numbers like Stalin killing 60 million people (which is imposible because there was population growth during his time) - The truth is that the revolution was coming anyways and Lenin wasn't the only actor in it anyways, but was the one that knew how to get through the situation and deliver what he promised, Peace Land and Bread
@@Burrito69killer 6 millions people died from hunger, that was caused by destructive Civil War and Millitary Communism politics - soldiers and workers with weapons took the harvest from peasants. Enterprises were given to the worker control or nationalized. Workers lost their morivation to work, because there is no more capitalists, that could dismiss them for bad work. Also workers made their interprises irretable, because they simply made their salary bigger (Unteached workers didn't knew that total cost of money is equal to total cost of product, money don't have cost by their own, and there is no difference how many money you have, but difference is how many product). As a result less product, more money, inflation of economy, the prices are growing when there is less product with same number of money, but this cause the problems with organization of production - production of something also needs money to pay, as a result of which production become more expensive and fell, and there is cycle. That caused hunger economical decline. Most people in modern Russia blame the people, who destroyed Soviet Union, saying that in 90s there was unemlloyment ratio 25%, inflation of 300% per year and decline of everything. This people even sometimes hate the Soviet Union, but they still blame Eltsin. They don't know, that when Soviet Union was established, there was much higher and scary crisis, with same inlation in 4 years between 1922 and 1917 as a result of wonderful communist politics and Civil War. In 1922 there was the denomination of Rouble, the Rouble of 1921 was equal to 10 000 Roubles of 1918. Middle salary in 1913 was 80 Roubles, in 1921 - 300 000 Roubles. Also government controlled enterprises were unnefective due to the fact, that officials aren't motivated to lead the enterprise as capitalists, that gain profit from enterprise, and they interested in growth and profitability. 1.6 million soldiers died in Civil War from both sides, and 1.8 peasants were killed. 6 millions people immigrated from Russia, this were the scientists, ingeeners, and etc. . Russia lost a lot of territories with population. And we not talking about Brest-Litowsk peace threaty, when Germany occupied Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Baltics, and even landed in Helsinki. Thanks to the Antanta Germany lost the war, and Communists took Ukraine and Belarus. But Poland occupied some territories of Ukraine and Belarus.
Funny how they are sad about Romanov's and not about the living condition of the people at that time....
@@r3v773 Sad about Romanov? Hell no, I don't get why people workship their tyrants, did you forget the bloody Sunday of January 1905, also the white guards could have used the Romanov as a tool to restore the old zarist Russia
@@karwoski91 I think he barely know history at all. History is not about good or bad it's about facts.
@@r3v773 who killed the ukrainians? you confused with the nazis?
@@r3v773 The Romanovs killed and oppressed Ukrainians and even banned there language.
They study from hollywood movies...
Do next
What Russians think about the Romanovs ?
this needs to go all the way up
depending on which one of the Romanovs.There were both great people and all sorts of morons
I am Russian if you care...
All of them are different people. I respect Peter I very much, he made so much for Russia and he did it with high quality. There are also Alexander I, but he didn't do much in domestic policy (by reason of Napoleon and economic crisis I guess), and Alexander II who made the peasants free in 1861 and it was such a great transformation. Nevertheless he was killed by terrorist wich wasn`t much smart because after that there were two conservative rulers. Sooo I`d say that if Alexander II wasn`t murdered, we would had probably escaped the October Revolucion and had an emperor today. But History decided that Romanovs rulled Russia only 300 years...
What do Russian think about the Romanovs? Well, let's see, my great great great father used to be a Leib guard for the Romanovs and then they all got murdered.
@@hereusername The people who murdered them were far worse.
"My great-grandmother was from a workers family" and then proceed to say "They had their own big farm"... that is called a landowner.
they were working at their farm
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 they exploited people, we all know that in tsarist times in Russia, farm laborers received pennies, Lenin did a lot of good for this country.
@@letsplaywithmegacyborg3098kulak is a person who has its own farm workers, so, he was not a worker, he was a boss
kulak is a person who owns things. they were all farmers who grew and sold their stuff@@itsnight1571
@@itsnight1571no entendiste nada, gringo
>my great-grandmother was from a workers family
>They had their own big farm
It's quite funny how vague he keeps it. Anyways, he should have said "peasant family" as that would have been less inaccurate than saying "worker family"
the probably owned slaves. Kulaks did that
Saw that on genzedong I mean if kulaks were oppressed look at batraks lmao
I mean, you must know that worker in Russian may not exactly mean a factory worker. People do reffer to peasent as workers as well.
Ahhhh commie bad they took my slaves away from me and freed them ahhhh
My great grandma used to say a lot of negative things about him, they had a big farm... LMAO
@@beketyermek6853 they had a big farm... they were called kulaks... well that's obvious.
@@beketyermek6853 for no reason? they refused cooperating while other people were suffereing because of famine. That's enough of a reason.
@@beketyermek6853 then why burning your own grains and crops? tell me
@@beketyermek6853 and before there was a famine every 20 or so years in the Russian Empire and after this famine there were no famines any more, can you imagine that?
@@redcommierad2447 you cant force people to do good. It ends up in several millions Ukrainians dead
2:35
"Good dog." -Vladimir Lenin, Russian communist statesman and revolutionary (21 January 1924), to his dog who brought him a dead bird
Was the bird a sparrow?
Fun fact: Lenin owned 6-7 cats
10:40 "thanks to putin we haven't had wars for 20 years"
badly aged
The invasion of Ukraine started 8 years ago. There was the war in Chechnya and the invasion and annexation of northern Georgia. Oops!
“Thanks to Putin we haven’t had wars for 20 years”
If irony could kill I’d be dead after seeing that
@@WeAreSoBackBros please tell me you’re not a russian supporter
@@WeAreSoBackBros Your comment = "2 weeks ago"
officially there is no war now. Russia did not declare war on Ukraine, and Ukraine did not declare war on Russia after the invasion (because it knows that this will result in the complete destruction of Ukraine with the help of aviation and artillery, and not just a harmless invasion as it is now)
@@gunterodim1535 it’s not a “harmless invasion” people are dying, getting hurt, having their lives and homes ripped apart. No part of this is harmless and you’re delusional for thinking so
@@mason2324 Russia is more mindful of civilians than NATO and America has ever been. If they didn’t care about civilian corridors and focus on military targets this would have been over a week ago
"But we don't have communism, we have democracy".
Well, he's right about the former.
Было бы смешно, если бы не было так грустно
This sentence makes no sense. Communism is a democratic system. Russia does not have a democracy
When did russians have democrary? lol
How does an American socialist feel about Lenin? No need to dissemble and be afraid of censure from any of the parties, speak as it is. The next question is, have you read at least one work of Lenin and Marx?
@@byzantium7638 it seems as though the other guy isn't going to answer your question so If your interested I can give an answer. As an American ML I atleast see lenin as a man who had done the impossible to a backwards futile country transforming it from a land that still had middle ages working conditions to a country where the common people actually felt like a human being instead of property to a lord or factory boss. He showed the world that even a country that was lagging behind the rest of the world ruled by a family who was completely out of touch with humanity could be transformed into a global super power that had the west shaking in their overpriced boots. He inspired workers all over the world to stand up for better working conditions and quality of life in general. Some places the revolutions worked others failed either from incompetent leadership or government Crack downs like in America. Revolution could've worked here if they had tried a few years before WW1 when the u.s. had a small army of around 127000 soldiers compared to 8 million in WW2. I have no idea where you are from but if you are american you are well aware of how lenin and the soviet union are demonized in the media and in teachings at school. Although if you are not ill give examples. We are taught that lenin was on par with the evil of hitler which is quite ridiculous for anyone with a functioning brain which is also hard to come across in american or atleast in the little slice of hell they call ohio. Also we are taught atleast I was taught that America made it to Berlin first and liberated auschwitz. A fundemental flaw with our education system is there is a standardized cariculum but is loosely followed and leaves more room for the teachers beliefs than actual fact. I believed the bullshit for a long time until I started doing my own research when I was about 16 or so into Marxist theory and the works of him and lenin I consider myself to have a good understanding of Marxist leninism but there is always more to learn I could go on for hours but I'll leave it here. If you have anymore questions I'd be happy to answer them to the best of my abilities.
It's funny how mirror like this is to America in terms of ignorance to Russias own history.
You're kidding right!
if you asked anybody in the US about history past 100 years they would not know who you were even talking about
@@jakeavakov5230 So are they here. The girl literally asked if that was the guy who created the USSR...
@@alioshax7797 1 girl who slept in history class compared to 99% americans
@@jakeavakov5230 of course not 99% of the americans, and of course the knowledge of this girl doesn't reflect the average russian level in history.
I've known americans who knew more about my country's history than me...and I'm a student in history.
As a Russian of left-wing socialist views, I almost smashed my face with the palm of my hand from some of the answers
Is it common for Russians today to hold positive views of Lenin/communism or have a pro-capitalist position?
@@unfairweather I'd say 50/50. When the USSR collapsed, most people were in favor of capitalism, especially young people, but the last 30 years have shown that socialism was not so bad idea.
@@unfairweather steal and share, no thanks
@@Vadim_Sulimovare positive views of socialism more bc of socialist ideology (ie marx/Engels/Lenin) or because of the historical power of the USSR? If that makes sense
@@EUGEN093 u must be a kulak
In Vietnam, we see him as a symbol of the fight against colonialism. He is the hero, a Uncle Ho's teacher.
*Approved
Does it have a link with the fact that Vietnam is communist or something else?
@@Pikachu-sc1yc the Communist Party is individually ruling Vietnam, you can check that on Wikipedia or orther source.
Long live Uncle Ho, Lenin, and Stalin
In West we see you hungry and sad how does the whole socialism goes by the way does it work for you?
The education of the old people is so good because the Soviet Union's education was aimed at making people aware of how to even govern their country and was also aimed vigorously at making them aware of history.
yeah and if they said anything bad about their "great leaders" you, me and all of us know what would have happened, better live in a happy bubble than knothing the truth.
@@perfectmazda3538 fun fact, some officers openly wrote letters of disapproval to the head of state with 0 repercussion whatsoever. Disagreement among individuals was fine and fairly common, u just could not politically do anything “anti-communist”. Still limited freedom, but hardly as bad as you make it out to be. American politics was the same at the time, we fired a quarter of our government for being suspected ‘communists’ and encouraged people to spy on their neighbors. People like u always conveniently forget the red scare
If they learn how to govern the country they would have ended Putin's oligarchic system a long time ago when they still have the power
They had a good education system to an extent, but in the political realm it was strict and limited to what the CPSS wanted you to hear. I don't think you can be "aware of history" in the sense you suggest through a Marxist-Leninist lens.
And they are superpowers somehow like you're just a kid and look at your dumb side?
the whole "i wasn't alive then so why should i care" thing is deeply terrifying and not as i first suspected a strictly western phenomenon
Lenin was better than Stalin
@@achyuththouta6957 prove it then
@@JohnKobaRuddy prove what? Lenin was a great Marxist Leninist thinker, Stalin was a thinker aswell and a great leader, but Lenin is beyond reach, without Lenin there would be no Stalin.
5/10 Its almost a facade of "I dont know the closest thing this person did other than he is a historical figure, so Ima pretend Im wiser than this".
@@lordvader22 if only lenin died in Siberia
the dog had the best answer
The real question is:
"What would Lenin say about Putin?"
He would be fucking furious
Lenin & Stalin would have Putin executed in a whim
When a Russian says: Lenin destroyed the Soviet Union
Me: I know every Fucking thing!
😯
But hey they export Russian porn stars to Europe now so everything worked out for the best.
@@doin_fine 😵😵😵 😑
@@doin_fine But hey 5-10 millions of Russians died in civil war so Lenin can take power and kill and steal from even bigger number of people! So lets forget about it and lets talk about porn... 200IQ🤣
You know that in whole WW2 less than 5 millions of Germans died in world war that they lost?
And that 5-10 millions of dead people was only start of communist score in XX century... NKVD, gulags, "sluggish schizophrenia"->people locked in mental hospitals for thinking that communism is not the best system in the world... you know all the good stuff that you love so much!
"What are the good things that Lenin did?"
Answer: Founded a country that saw the first ever implementation of a new economic system. The country went from very poor to very rich in a short amount of time. The USSR enjoyed the fastest economic growth in the history of the world and became the 2nd wealthiest and most powerful country in the world within 50 years of it's inception. Thats not exactly nothing XD
I’m not Russian but Lenin was one of the greatest leaders of the 20th century
@@s1050 I would venture to say one of the greatest leaders ever. Has to be top 10.
Lol
Wasn't quite the fastest economic growth, but rather 4th fastest. Behind Germany after the Nazi party took power up until the outset of WW2, China the last decade+, and the United States just after WW2
Don’t forget they pretty much started the whole space race. First person in space. First to circumnavigate the planet. First woman in space. First space walk. They literally took a country from feudalism to the cosmos in less than 50 years.
It was so cute when you interviewed the dog 🥰 He most definitely had my favourite answer 🥰❤️
He is non-political!
0:11 Girl: "He destroyed the Soviet Union, didn't he?"
LMAO THIS GIRL DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT HER COUNTRY HISTORY.
That's modern Russian education. Putin don't need smart people.
@@pasauliite lol?
In modern Russia and Putins government, education was destroyed and 70% population of country dont know our history.
(Sorry for my English)
@@myloisonau8406 oh thanks for that
i only know a bit about communism and Lenin but want to learn more. Where could i start from or from which sources?
Soviet education was clearly superior too modern Russian education. The one strong take away I took was the belief that the USSR a person was bettering their own nation(community, society, peoples), and in modern russia your just focused on your own betterment and there is nothing wrong with that either. Putin is a product of the USSR
Idk why you say that. Its clear putin has put Russia in a better economic situation now then when they were the ussr.
No education is the best
@@brianticas7671 that’s just demonstrably false
You just described the difference between Socialism and Capitalism.
@@StraightEdgeSieghart Yes I did 🙏
"We don't have communism, we have democracy"
🤣
Someone needs to tell them....
Communism is when Putin
@Ann Nifödova + 15 roubles
@Ann Nifödova it doesn't mean you're allowed to do your nazi things judging by the person's last name
@Ann Nifödova yeah, almost won an election. Somehow, the drunk Yeltsin won
@Ann Nifödova it's croatian surname
один в футболке, другой в теплой куртке это Россия!
KGB CCCP
Vodka cures temperature difference
the guy who was saying people lived well before revolution lol, muddy imperium
Fun fact: literacy rate in Imperial Russia was mostly under 50%. Just tells you how much of a shithole Russia was before the revolution
@@xgamerbih it became even worse after
@@nobody5228 ok nazi
@@mycodingchannel9690 Why do you think i am a Nazi?
@@nobody5228 100% literacy rate and zero homelessness by 1940. Are you sure?
that guy at 2:00 " my grandma was from a workers family", 1 second later "they had their own big farm" . LOL , now I get where all the anticommunist stuff comes from from supposed "normal workers that lived there"
This is fast becoming one of my favourite channels. You ask simple, short questions that somehow are deep and probing. It’s a real skill. You show the diversity of thought and opinion in Russia brilliantly. What comes across is how well they know their own country and how comparatively little they really know of others. Every video has a few people I instantly warm to and one or two who I would probably avoid in the pub - exactly like every country!
”But we don’t have communism, we have democracy” lol!
lol like how can you call that democracy?
@@Burrito69killer I wonder the same, maybe she’s brainwashed
Putin - U sure bout that?
@Александaр Бесфамильный how is google being free the only meter of democracy?
@Александaр Бесфамильный you must be in love with Putin then since he has ruled the country for over 20 years!
The Russian beard is magnificient. I miss seeing more Russian mystical beards! Peter the Great is gone, let the beards grow!
"Lenin could have made some reforms like implementing an eight-hour workday.
My brother in Christ, that was codified four days after the October Revolution.
as I know he destroyed the soviet union right... Damn
I never saw a country being so horrible at their own history like that
We can all have blank moments in our knowledge of history.
In UK I know next to nothing about anyone who lived in the same years Lenin lived, & I tried looking up a few names this past week but they seemed so uneventful I fell asleep XD
That third guy: fuck history, who needs it, let’s move into the future and not think about the past
I despair
Can't learn from history if you forget it.
you need to learn history to build the future
Well somebody failed their History Class
That's most peoples' attitude towards history which is pretty depressing.
That third guy sounds like a beat poet!
Ахахах🤦
Lmao
That guy at 0:20 is a king. "We need to think about the future. We make the future." Lenin 100% agrees.
2:40 Little do you know that the dog was actually quoting "State and Revolution" and explaining Lenin's ideas...you just couldn't understand it.
3:55 "It's a shame they shot the royal family. A shame." And it's a shame the royal family murdered tens of thousands of unarmed people who were very unhappy about famine, the lack of rights, massive poverty, etc. And there was a massive faction of monarchists that could very easily have tried to reinstate the royal family (I mean, it's not like they fought a civil war over control of the country or anything...oh, wait!). Doesn't make it right, but karma's a B***.
autism ^
Fun historical fact: The monarchist faction was hardly "massive". Monarchism was mostly limited to the aristocratic commanders & public faces of the white movement. It was actually a huge liability, especially for countries like the UK and US, to be seen supporting a supposed monarchist restoration, especially after they had just been through a catastrophic war to defeat the kaiserreich. Arguably the execution of the Romanovs only helped the White movement by removing the monarchist albatross from their neck - allowing "democratic" powers to freely support anticommunist forces without having to worry about the PR nightmare that was Nicky II.
@@TessHKM "Massive" enough in the forces they controlled. Sure, numerically the faithful monarchists were not a large number, but it's not necessary to maintain a massive army that fights for that numerically small number. The faction was "massive" in regards to the forces it commanded, though I should have found a better way to put it, so I'll accept the correction that it was "hardly massive."
That said, the Provisional Government was working towards reinstating the monarchy, and while some people say "but the royal family turned it down," the fact is that Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich, who Nicholas II abdicated his and his son's claims to the throne to, made the condition that he WOULD take the throne only if the Constituent Assembly legitimized it through law. The PR nightmare of Nicky II wouldn't have even been a thing, and the legitimacy of the constitutionally recognized monarchy would have been a boone to the White movement by the marriage of democracy and monarchy helping to bring the various factions of the White and other anti-Bolshevik movements together.
I'll admit to not being a scholar on everything that happened in those times, what the motives were etc, so I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that I'm missing that gives more context and such to what was going on that we didn't really see. Things like correcting me on the size of the monarchist faction's actual proponents not being the same as their military power or political influence. So thanks for the correction.
Знание истории собственной страны у многих опрошенных буквально-таки ниже нуля... Печально
ну, не удивительно, когда у тебя нет времени на самообразование. Надо деньги зарабатывать, кормить себя.
@@Pvt.Conscriptovich Кормить господ надо, вот люди и остаются ограниченными в знаниях.
@@Olegstuff21986 кому нунжы умные рабы ? Умный рабочии гораздо опаснее глупого. Да сами эксплуататоры не давали им учиться.
wut
@@Pvt.Conscriptovich какой пиздежь. Пришёл домой и вместо хи-хи видосов посмотри что-то историческое, почитай. Нет, это тяжело. Лучше жить дураком. Не оправдывай себя. Есть наушники, есть аудио-подкасты.
I guess we humans are just generally badly informed about ourselves as a whole, which is why some politicians could get away with seemingly unacceptable actions.
A great quote from Comrade Lenin in 1913:
"People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises."
"Lenin? He destroyed the Soviet Union"
My inner scream destroyed my ears.
This video was the hardest one to finish from the channel in awhile, the level of psychosis from each person had me pausing every 30 seconds. Great editing on your part for causing that effect.
The man whose ancestors were kulaks and had their farms taken told the best story here because it seems to be a firsthand account experienced by his great grandmother. Most interviewees either know Lenin from what the education taught them or have vague or none information of him at all.
His comment shows that good and evil, right and wrong, good or bad, most of times has to do with the position you have or the situation you are in.
For example
I Believe that it would be great to leave in medieval France if you were the king, but not if you were a farmer!
Lenin wanted to get the farmland by it coming from the farmers but stalin (like many things) went apeshit and just straight up cleansed them.
First thing the bolchevik did was give farmland to the presents who worked on it. The peasants made up the majority of the army and the population of pre industrial Russia as a whole. Unfortunetly, they got it rough, as did everyone, during the civil war. What really fucked them over was Stalin yoyoing between far left and right elements in the bolchevik party. After building up the wealth of the kulaks (despite being warned and discouraged by the left opposition, he then destroyed) , stalin soon realised they were right and in respons forced collectivation of all peasant property, one day to the other, entering a huge famine.
@@mitsos306ify There is book: "Behind the Urals: An American Worker in Russia's City of Steel" by John Scott.
John Scott was as clueless as you and he made decision to leave USA and move to Soviet Union.
In that book you can find John Scott experience from his visit in France, he was in a cafe and two beggars entered the premises to ask for money. What caught his attention was the fact that the French beggars was better looking and wore better clothes than the talented and hardworking specialist in his Soviet work place...
So stop babling about French king and claiming that live of common man in Soviet Union was somewhat better because whole country was mostly producing weapons and tanks and typical worker was dreaming about bike when worker in USA was able to buy his own car after one or two years of hard work!!!
@@costbart During civil war that Lenin started 5 to 10 millions of Russians died... in whole war on all fronts and during all boombing "only" 5 millions of Germans died in WW2.
Life of farmer in tsar Russia was bad but purges and nationalisation of private property was not an improvement. People did nothing to stop Lenin and his bolsheviks because WW1 was so bad and people wanted to see peace and some positive change and Lenin was telling to all his people to promise Russian people what ever they wanted to hear! All the books from Soviet Union claiming that he delivered what he promised... No he did not! But he was the new Tsar and he got Red Army and NKVD to deal with everyone that was unhapy with new Tsar(even name of LEnin was fake!).
Read pre WW2 world bestseller: 'Lenin' by Antoni Ferdynand Ossendowski if you want to learn the truth about Lenin...
As an Indian teenager saying after watching this video, I have better knowledge about USSR history just from my textbooks than these russian youngstars.......
all are wrong
As someone who lives in the US Lenin to me is someone who I found very interesting as a Revolutionary. I know a majority of the west over here likes to depict him as some tyrant without doing their research and will buy into the westernize propaganda. This was the guy within history, who's goal was to establish a society that emphasizes worker's self management. Lenin had advocated for Communism and once he came to power, he did his best to implement those ideas giving the Russian working-class/peasants what they wanted.
It was a new idea. Someone tested it out. It failed miserably. I hope communism is eradicated. Like, he was perhaps doing what he believed in. He was against monarchy, the Romanovs were just not functioning. Lenin did skyrocket the country to high status, but so does Every Socialist/communist nation and then collapses or fails.
China's saving grace was opening private sector.
@@AcidifiedMammoth would u want to talk?
But now we have a new problem.the great reset,and there's nothing great about it.buckle up, gonna be a real rough ride.
US doesn't even teach proper history, they fix everything to make themselves look gooder... than other leaders.
@@AcidifiedMammoth, чувак те Гений. Нет слов! Каждая страна гибнет! Наверное, потому комм страны сушествовали только в 20 веке и потерпели все жирный крах. Не выстояв борьбы с США. И на этом ты делаешь вывод, что коммунизм не жизнеспособен? Ну развалилась римская империя с рабовладельческим строем, что после этого рабов не было? Классно, а если США будет в кризисе скажем, что капитализм не оправдал себя? Хорошее суждение. Я, как человек любящий левые взгляды не сказал бы, что каждая социалистическая страна обязательно растет.
Тут все дело в плане, а не в коммунизме. План эффективен, но не мобилен.
Хотя с нынешними технологиями можно создать и мобильный план.
Вот например в Скандинавии социализм ну или 60% социализм. Где же крах?
The dog had the best take.
Just thought I’d let you know that the dog interview is what got me to like and sub :)
Есть какие-то проблески но никто здесь знаниями особо не блеснул. Молодой кавказец хоть правильно думает о будущем. И называет вещи своими именами.
Да, удивило и понравилось его мнение о настоящем и будущем. Вот только не согласен по поводу «вернуться в СССР», не дай бог)
@@KlimovArtem1 ну это он наверняка от родичей о позитивах СССР слышал. Типа "дружба народов" и т.д.
Если он не знает прошлого, то печальное его ждет будущее.
@@user-cf7if1nb2m смотря какую историю, и кто её рассказывает. В прошлом слишком много фигни которую лучше забыть типа религий, воин, делёжки, и обид. Молодые учатся ненавидеть друг друга из-за поступков предков которые умерли 100 лет назад.
@@anonymouse527 люди в любом случае найдут за что ненавидеть друг друга, а опыт прошлых войн и обид поможет в разрешеннии сегодняшних.
10:36 " we haven't had wars for 20 years"
Well this lady definitely got that wrong...
She isn't. Russia didn't engage into any major conflicts in the following 10 years.
@@baconingbad Yes you are right, but she said 20, thats wrong
@@frostwang6557 Yeah, I forgot to type that she probably forgot about the conflict with Georgia in 2008. Though to be fair, the engagements between Russians and Georgians weren't that major and that confrontation lasted only a few days in August, which I really wouldn't consider a major war conflict, which is probably what she meant.
@@jpegxguy thanks to your local propaganda (and mine honestly) :/ Russian news said there was a referendum with the Crimeans about accession to Russia. I've been there again after 10 years and didn't see anything negative with Russian tourists. Most of them are ethnic Russians (how i think)... But I understand that the whole story is not good and is connected with the military interests of both sides (i dont mean Ukraine in that case at all).
What about the war in Chechnya?
Almost all the old people respect him
all people who own logic and know history too
Because they were taught to respect him in schools.
I don’t think they really had much of a choice.
@@thestifmyster1 I think they are just more educated, and that's a fact. the level of education fell from top positions to some kind of bottom + in modern Russia we are taught myths about bloodthirsty Lenin, even in schools we are forced to read Solzhenitsyn
@@user-xb5kh6ee7c No bro you are wrong. I live in post Soviet country. I know from my grand parents they didn't like him. There were photos of him in school and it was a rule to not say anything against Lenin and also love Lenin. They were teaching that in school from first grade. Most post I post Soviet countries hate Lenin. Only those who benefited from him still like him. Every educated man knows what a bad person he was.
The world is a more informed place thanks to you guys doing your videos! Just brilliant truly thank you from American woman.
Wow do they need a refresher on the history of Russian Communism, a lot of confusion between Lenin's outlook for the party and the Country and Stalin's. Most of the "bad" things that were mentioned about Lenin were in fact done by Stalin. Stalin's USSR was nothing like Lenin's USSR. If Stalin never became leader of the CCCP and the USSR it would of been a much more successful form of government and would most likely still be the main political force in Russia and the Balkan States.
What bad things did Stalin do, huh?
@@LuchokPlay the great purge starvations molotov ribbentrop pact you know the usual
@@justasimplemathematicallye3917 what starvations are you talking about? And how Molotov Ribbentrop pact is a bad thing? This is literally a victory of soviet diplomacy which won some time for preparations for war.
@@LuchokPlay bitch the soviets provided nazis with equipment etc.
@@justasimplemathematicallye3917 all of Europe and US did
почему-то я читаю субтитры, хотя я русский
Почему я напишу на русском хотя я португалец?
@@darkdevil905 душа русская)
Я тоже. Хочется знать, как это воспримут иностранцы. Как бы посмотреть их глазами.
Very interesting responses!
One fellow said: “We don’t have communism, we have democracy (in Russia)”. Russia today is considered mostly not democratic.
by you from the WEST, if Russians believe that they live in a democracy - they live in it. Just your democracy and theirs aren't the same and that's okay. Just like your democracy from the '50s and '60s when black people were treated like dogs isn't the same democracy from 2021.
@@pezos5 Whether or not a country is democratic is based upon a set of facts and objective characteristics, not upon human emotion or a nationalistic feeling. Russia is more democratic than many countries, but less than the vast majority of developed nations. You can research the issue for yourself if you are willing to.
Define democracy....
@@shidapu145 Democracy s a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation ("direct democracy"), or to choose governing officials to do so...
Taken from the Wikipedia definition, I'd say that makes a good start. Perhaps now we need to apply this question to Russia, how much democracy do they have?
According to a video from history matters, even during Stalin's time Russian people got a local representative, he or she would need at least a 50% vote to represent them, apparently voters would band together to spoil ballots in large numbers forcing the representative to either make things better or get replaced.
To me, it doesn't sound as black or white as people like to think, but it certainly doesn't have as many choices as we might like to idealise.
@@CloudWalkBeta It was a rhetorical question democracy in capitalism is nowhere to be find people have no say in economy and politics they just vote every 4 years who the opressor will be.
0:16 Me trying to pass my history test.
Vladimir Lenin was a revolutionary. You will find many bad and good things about revolutionaries. Revolutionaries aren't evil nor are they saints they are revolutionaries.
No, most of them are pretty evil. Lenin killed millions.
@@peterfireflylund says the fascist
revolutionaries policy that cause death to millions peoples,sounds evil enough for me!
Revolutionaries spill a lot of blood
Time to wake up... "Lenin" by Ferdynand Antoni Ossendowski... you know the book that whole world was reading before the WW2 and the best depiction of Lenin and his revolution made by real witness!
thank you for making videos like this. hope you make What Russians think about Tsar Nicholas someday. subscriber from The Philippines.
It would have been interesting had you interviewed more people than the few in this video.
3:33 I don't know if this guy is joking, but that "we have democracy" part was really fun. We basically have the king and his friends in power here in Russia, all oppositionists are already in jail 🤣
Anche tu pensi di vivere in democrazia . Illusione
bro im from kerala and sometimes you can see people named lenin and stalin 😭 communism goes hard here
Yes that's ridiculous love from West Bengal 😃
Looks like we know about Lenin than some of the people who's in this interview
Maybe you should find out more about Lenin and Stalin.
yeah exactly, anyways mallus are based.
In Saint Thomas’ Kerala? That is so sad to hear :/
Very interesting 👍 Cheers from America
Did he directly order the death of the royal family? And can anyone specify what he ordered be done with the Kulaks? Historical sources please
@@somebody3086 wiki is a very reliable source yea)
Lenin did not want to kill the royal family, only their haters did it, read on the Internet about the red and white terror during the civil war in Russia, it is strange that they only mention the red terror, but they forgot about the white terror of the tsar's supporters and the intervention of the Americans, the British, Czechs, who killed communists and built prisons for them
To Comrades Kuraev, Bosh, Minkin and other Penza communists.
Comrades! The uprising by the five kulak volosts must be mercilessly suppressed. The interest of the entire revolution demands this, for we are now facing everywhere the “final decisive battle” with the kulaks. We need to set an example.
1. You need to hang (hang without fail, so that the people see) no fewer than 100 of the
notorious kulaks, the rich and the bloodsuckers.
2. Publish their names.
3. Take all their grain from them.
4. Appoint the hostages - in accordance with yesterday’s telegram.
This needs to be done in such a way that the people for hundreds of versts around will see, tremble, know and shout: they are throttling and will throttle the bloodsucking kulaks.
From Lenin's Hanging order, which can be read here: www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/11c.htm
Lenin didn't order the killing just like Nicholas didn't order Bloody Sunday, but it happened.
www.history.com/news/romanov-family-murder-execution-reasons
Lenin didn’t really order to kill the, however do note that should they be kept alive, foreign imperialists could recognise the family as the rightful heir to the thrones or the ones in power and with the white army potentially reinstituting them and later on just kill every communist lmao, so whether or not Lenin ordered it, screw the romanovs anyways.
In terms of the kulak case, the kulaks controlled at least half of the soviet good stock and violently resisted the collectivisation the Soviet Union introduced (of which peasants would be recognised as a working class and to be treated equally and not undermined by their leader), kulaks also did contributions to soviet famines like the holodomor, whereas the kulaks stole grain and wheat, contributing to even more deaths.
Парень который южной национальности понимает Россию гораздо больше чем половина русских из всего видео.
Согласен, парень думает логически и называет вещи своими именами.
Вы же понимаете что в России живут не только русские, и не только русские были в составе ссср))
@@user-gw2es7cy7e вопрос в количестве, соотношении.
DAMN I am American, but somehow know more about Lenin than most of the people in this video hahaha
No you don't.
If that's the case, you'd be an exception to the rule I'm afraid. No insult to you personally. You may know more about him than the average person, but the average American knows very little about him now; especially among the post-Cold War generation. I actually talked to a guy around 30 today who didn't even know what the Soviet Union was.
@@achyuththouta6957 try me 😄
The humor and sacarsm of the interviewees made my day
how are you still getting payment through paypal? I love your channel, but I would have thought that paypal isn't working inside of Russia anymore.
"My grandmother was from a workers family... they had ther own farm" hauahauajauaha
Funniest part he does not know the difference, what an ignorance, lol
I legit died when he said that lmao like yep, your granny was a kulak. obviously the soviets didn't oppress the kulaks enough, that's how you get guys like him to this day.
Thats just misunderstanding
They owned their own BIG farm, that guys is pathetic 😂😂😂
@@mariagabrielarodrigues7626 a true kulak
Lenin is like Emiliano Zapata. Lots of people hate him, others loves him but there's always a balance.
I am Mexican. I can assure you most Mexicans who know something about him think Zapata was a very good guy. The only people who hate him are rich Mexicans and formerly-rich Mexicans and their imitators.
Yes, lots of people also hate and love Hitler.
@@MaSsiVeGaming1 damn dude, chill. you have to take your anti-depressants before you decide to go on a rant like this.
@@user-hw9nc8yz1m What rant silly? I made a factual comment.
@@MaSsiVeGaming1 i meant the fact that you are going around commenting on other comments, trying to start something, while talking out of your ass. i dont anything against it, but in your place, id consider waiting at least a couple days before commenting.
Where was this filmed? On the ocean. Crimea ?
Жалко им Романова, они в курсе как формировались доходы феодалов и что такое выкупные подати, знали бы , жалко бы исчезло
@@user-fh4le1pn8o одно из требований революции 1905 г отмена выкупных, т.к их все еще не могли выплатить
Все равно никому такой смерти не пожелаешь. Всех его детей расстреляли на его глазах
@@user-is8ec9hz2v детей не жалко? Скот еще нарожает?
Wow, these questions on exchanging Putin with Lenin and what would have been without the revolution are so complex because there were two world wars whose outcome had a profound effect on Russia.
That woman who made the comparison to Japan really stunned me because there's really no way that Russia could have turned out the same way as Japan. It would not have had: Fascism, no war against the US and the Soviet Union, no stronghold against communism and so on... leave alone today's Japan's unique monetary situation and how it relates to all their wealth or their work ethic! How could anything really turn out in a similar way in an alternate world??
10:37
Aged like milk. I mean there was also Chechnya and Georgia in the last 20 years, but I guess if Putin said it's not a war, it's not a war
At 2:00 the person said he was from a worker family who owned a big farm, while I cant be certain but that sounds a lot like he was from a kulak family
почему те, кто не знают, что сказать, просто не скажут: "извините, плохо знаю эту тему"..
но мнение то у всех есть, дайте людям раскрыться)))
@@user-xb5kh6ee7c тоже верно
0:48 Great to see Fyodor Dostoevsky giving an opinion on Lenin + he is smiling and seems happy
@0:40 I think babushka summed it up best, his idea wasn't exactly to be the most powerful leader but to make changes for Russian people. Then, he got bogged down by a civil war, finally a stroke, that killed him, and all the unresolved debates about self-determination were solved by Stalin's iron fist over the Union. And the rest is a brutal history that should never be forgotten. I don't think that Bolshevism necessarily led to Stalinism, but if any country ever wants to try real socialism, it should learn from the mistakes and violences of the Soviet Union under Stalin and the things that Lenin tried to resolve before a leader like his succesor could rise.
1:53 wow, my great-grandmother had the exact same story, word for word
A lot of these videos seem to be edited in such a way to show only the more amusing answers. It’s good we got to hear all kinds of answers.
They do that on “Jay-walking” in American comedy bits, too, to show the dumbest and most embarrassing. It’s not a good sample and isn’t indicative of the country, especially compared to the Capitol.
Conclusion: after USSR fall, people just forgot the most important peraon of all times.
They only remember the worst leader (Stalin)
@@aigeneratedwauigi2696 i think what people say about Stalin is something we must really search about.
It is too innocent to think that leaders such as Stalin Che Guevara Fidel Castro Mazo Zedong, as they fought against US empire, have not been blamed for things they havent done.
If you stop and ask: can 1 single man really do this? You will conclude he can not.
9:51 I love the subtitle
The Dog's answer was best 😂
9:20 who tf added this backround music, when this dude shows up
2:35 that dog had some deep thoughts bout lenin
Ленин - творец советской государственной модели, он дал ей легитимность, запустил механизм функционирования. Ленинские идеи индустриализации, культурной революции, поголовной грамотности были сильнейшими в его политическом арсенале. Большевики открыли беспрецедентные социальные лифты для миллионов людей из низов. Дали если не лучшую жизнь, то надежду многим обездоленным. Многие не знают историю, а зря ,потому что без прошлого нет будущего.
~don't look at the milions Innocent workers and peasants killed, the exact samr tsarist oppression and the Bolshevik leaders living the life of Luxury. It's goid because it had hammer and the sickle as it's symbol
"Многие не знают историю" 5-10 млн погибло в гражданской войне, чтобы к власти мог прийти человек, который даже придумал себе имя...
Книга: "Ленин" - Оссендовский Антоний Фердинанд, Это должно быть обязательным чтением для всех, кто любит Ленина.
Samo je prije toga pobijao 20milijuna Rusa u gradjanskom ratu a Staljin drugih 20u svojoj vladavini .
da li ste vi ljudi normalni .Komunisti tj. Ruski zidovi kojih je bilo u politbirou i nkvde,75 posto uništili Ruski narod
The dog was so cute❤️😍
So interesting to hear about the different views on Lenin.
бабушка с молодым человеком очень интеллигентная и здраво рассуждает несмотря на возраст. А молодежь косноязычная матершинная. Тьфу.
Нормальная у нас молодежь, слава Богу не при совке живём
@@Russian_Ancap , как одно с другим связано? В СССР была плохая молодёжь? Активная, созидательная, сильная, волевая, стойкая, смелая и решительная. Трудовые отряды, освоение целины, защита родины, стройки городов и огромных предприятий, открытия и изобретения - это всё советские молодые энтузиасты. Каким трудом, какими достижениями на благо своего народа и государства могут похвастаться современные молодые люди? Что они умеют, а главное, что хотят делать не только для себя любимых, а для развития и процветания своей страны, кроме роликов в тикток и инстаграмных фоточек?
Та же бабушка бы не тьфукала, в отличие от вас. Таким людям свойственна сдержанность и понимание, а не это грубое высокомерие.
@@jpn369 сколько лет вам, если не секрет?
People in other countries know more about him, his books and his policy than people of the Russia٫ no wounder that never-sober and always-intoxicated man named "Yelstin" took them for a ride in dystopia(i hope at least they know who yelstin was)
@@r3v773 Most of those people who know Lenin in other countries are from capitalist countries and they know him (I didn't say they like him) they know him through his books and writings and NOT through statements of their governments because in capitalist societies whether that society is in Europe or Africa or Asia , capitalist rulers do not like him at all
the outro was good. The camo-coat guy was funny
I always wondered about what Russians think for Lenin and USSR, thanks for this video.
0:57 he is a true Chad maybe Rasputin's relative
0:52 homeboy in a 16th century serf shirt
2:48 Nicholas the second: “ at least someone has forgotten about the famines and murders I committed and ordered “
How could is it really over there? You have people wearing jackets and coats,then there's that guy at 0:48