The tuatara evolves fast and the gar evolves slow, but we don’t understand why the tuatara evolves so it’s as if the tuataras’ evolution is on drugs I think
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Fun fact sort of related to the video: The longest lasting species I'm aware of is Grypania spiralis, which existed for around 1.2 billion years. Yes, that's one single species. Not a clade. Not a genus. A single species.
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There's a nuance though. With how little is left of them, and hence is known about them, it's not certain they're a single species. Or even a complete organism at all?
@@BuranStrannik I mean, I haven't seen anyone suggest that they're part of a larger organism, and it probably wouldn't make sense if they were. They're essentially just long, coiled filaments, which is a pretty normal morphology, all things considered. Some have considered some of the earlier forms to be potentially different to later forms (Neoproterozoic fossils from the Franklin Mountains, northwestern Canada: stratigraphic and palaeobiological implications) though, with them being suggested to be composites. (The paper 'Eukaryotic organisms in Proterozoic oceans' did disagree with that conclusion, however, and the paper 'The long-ranging macroalga Grypania spiralis from the Ediacaran Doushantuo Formation, Guizhou, South China' states that the species had undergone little change in morphology throughout it's existence).
When I catch the horseshoe crab in Animal Crossing: New Horizons, I thought about how it managed to stay the same for millions of years. It’s impressive.
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I've asked about this, and it makes sense. Natural selection favors the ideal vehicle for the environment. If that environment doesn't change, neither will the species. Your environment includes predation, food-sources, temperature etc. Still amazing to think their environment hasn't changed in such a long time.
This should be higher up. I think the absence of environmental pressure contributes a lot to a species not changing. I don't think this is mentioned in the video.
100MY does include the KT extinctione event, so the environment would have gone through some significant changes especially in terms of other animals in the system.
It think it is still fair to call these species living fossils, because by Darwin's definition (as paraphrased in the video at 00:19), they are species "seem" like they are frozen in time. I don't think the term is meant to imply they are frozen in time and have not mutated at all. Just that they seem that way.
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Yeah, saying Darwin is wrong (on the existence of what us and hin casually calla Living Fossil) is dumb clickbait. I mean, it worked... but still annoying
@@gregoryfenn1462 It can't be clickbait cos they didn't put that in the title or the thumbnail. It was in the middle of the video - by that point you'd already clicked and were watching the video.
Evolution isn't going for some sort of predetermined end goal. Heck, it isn't even going for perfection. Evolution basically goes for "eh, good enough".
We do actually see many different forms of horseshoe crab in the fossil record - there's one with huge "wings" going out and back each side of the shell.
babirusa sort of just dont have any natural predators although, and its really only a problem that crops up in old males, i cant verify this is true but i wouldnt be surprised if that uncontrolled growth is either because its not really selected against an older member post reproductive age just dying or even maybe some factor which helps balance their population on a small island with few large predators, so an old male doesnt say harass the rest of the population or continue to utilise the limited resources or anything but that's all speculation.
1:58 The helicoprion at the background is drawn according to old reconstructions. After CT scan we now know their teeth don't roll outside of their jaws like this. Also helicoprion went extinct in early Triassic 250 million years ago.
I suppose a factor of this may be that changes that look insignificant to us may actually have huge impacts overall. Small changes in skull bone structure or fin length/shape may look identical to us but come with big changes in bite strength or efficiency of moving through water. Our pattern recognising brains will say "these are basically the same" even if they have way different properties in their application.
I don't like the Darwin slander here... You make it sound like he was completely bamboozled or that he took concepts like "living fossil" very literally. The guy who discovered (and/or semi-co-discovered) evolution was obviously smart enough to know evolution happens at different rates, and happens in ways that are not noticeable, even in spite of having access to literally none of the information we have today that help us understand the mechanisms behind it.
Chill out, denis. Not like you had anything valuable to add. Anyway, I get why the "darwin slander" irks you but I think the phrasing was mostly theatrical. Minute earth is part learning, part entertainment. It's not a lecture. Things are meant to be exaggerated sometimes. Makes it more engaging :)
Yeah, idk why they dissed him like that when he got it mostly right. I hope noone seriously believes that he claimed these animals didn't change at all
@@DemsW Darwin didn't know about genes so if two animals had looked identical in their morphology he might well have thought that they hadn't changed at all. This is not a diss against the man, simply a limitation of the science of his time.
Darwin himself thought living fossils are the way they are due to a lack if changes in their environment meaning that there isn’t any pressure to change physical in any notable way
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There are some creatures that are so ideally suited to their environments, that they can weather fairly major changes without need for radical adaptation. Just a little bit of minor tweaking needed.
Evolution also does not happen for the purpose of evolution. If there is no need to evolve and evolving also cannot currently provide any major benefit, then what would be the point of evolving? Sure, there are always random mutations but if those cannot provide any noticeable benefit, they will not propagate very far.
Wrong. Plenty of negative and neutral things exist widespread in evolutionary chains. We have a bunch of them. What matters is the percentage with a given gene who get to breeding age before it kills them, not whether an outside observer might consider the gene an overall good, bad, or neutral thing for the longevity of the species. If a species only lives for 3 months on average because they have some horrible genetic defect that takes them out, there is no evolutionary pressure to remove that defect if they can reproduce effectively within 2 months. There might even be the occasional member who doesn't have that gene and gets to live the fullest possible 8 years for it's species instead but they're not likely going to be able to outbreed the members who only get 3 months (especially given they almost certainly still carry the bad gene meaning their offspring will likely have it as well) so nothing will change even if it's technically "better". There is no value judgment happening with evolution, just pure statistics.
I've seen this happen in simulation. I had a species that grew to extreme lengths in the Android app Cell Lab, with a spine that alternated branching off cells/organelles on either side. I left it running for so long that it had completely reorganized its genome but retained or revolved an identical structure despite the mutations to literally all of its genome.
I know there's a british owl that used to be white but after global warming melted lots of the snow and had lots of smoke it became black in a few years
? there's no case like this, the most simillar thing was with the peppered moth, where soot from the industrial revolution meant that there was an increase in dark coloured surfaces and a decrease in light surfaces, thus favouring a specific morph of the moth (which had already existed) and shifting the population structure of the moths to favour that dark morph [which is an example of natural selection]
You have conflated it with the moth thing but owl microevolution is a real phenomenon. The survival rates of brown owls compared to gray owls have risen due to the reduced amount of snow.
@@pcenero Hm? what species has a brown and grey morph(I dont think itd be snowy owl as I believe those phase in and out of plumages and cant think of any other uk owls that could possibly be dimorphic)? I haven't heard of any climate changed induced micro-evolution in owls but would happily be proven wrong with a good source!
I don't think Darwin believed that these "living fossils" hadn't changed at all, just that their skeletons hadn't noticeably changed. That's still not quite true, but it's close to being true and appeared to be true based on the incomplete fossils available to him at the time. And at any rate, their skeletons are certainly similar, much more so than most animals. He supposed that this was due to stabilizing selection, which is still the leading hypothesis. So he was basically right.
If there is no pressure doesnt mean that animals with bad mutations don't die off and animals with mutations that are superior to normal genes don't pass them on thus furthering the species! That still happens!
Are species that seem to evolve much slower less likely to go extinct than ones that evolve fast? Or is it the other way around? I would think that if a species can remain unchanging for millions of years it would probably be less likely to face extinction, but I could be wrong.
It's about the environment and the other organisms, rather than the rate of evolution. Organisms that don't evolve do so because they don't need to, and ones that do, do so because they do need to.
Interesting question. It would seem that evolving slowly could be harmful in a rapidly-changing environment. Like, if you can't adapt quickly enough, you will go extinct. Species that don't seem to change much over time are likely the ones fortunate enough to live in environments that have been fairly stable during that time.
@@MinuteEarth Humanity is a prime example of a species that stopped evolving because we stopped needing to, as we rose to power through technology. Now we're burdened by a host of inefficient parts because they aren't detrimental enough to be weaned out, such as the appendix, and our foot structure.
@@Espartanica Saying we stopped evolving seems rather premature. Technology has not exactly been around for very long from an evolutionary point of view, and we have changed over the last few millenia, just not very significantly.
@@Llortnerof Homo sapiens as a species exists for less than a million years, which is only 20,000 generations... We're probably the slowest breeder on the planet, taking about 25 years to reproduce...
You know. Speaking of Species that hasn't changed much. There is a species of plant that has been around for more then 50 million years known as the Ginkgo biloba, it is the only species in not only the Genus, Family, Order but Division, yes, I mean the Taxonomy Division that contain a single species of Plant and remains unchange for the past over 50 million years.
I wonder if advanced intelligent species will become “living fossils” due to basically zero evolutionary pressures, or that it’ll just become a random walk which they basically won’t notice until looking into their deepest archives.
Not fair with Darwin, I bet his theory was species change physically and visually little by little over time and end up adapting. He didn't know about genetics, and now we have "🤓☝actually" people discrediting him by twisting his original argument.
So fucking real!!! Its not like it really matters all that much anyway, so what if a Horseshoe crab has evolved with the oceans shifting chemistry, its impressive you can see a fossil of one and say that it looks like the animal of today! Living Fossil is a very fair and relevant term to describe animals that are visually not that different. Always will internal workings have to adjust and change.
darwin was one of the first to properly describe evolution, of course he got a bunch of stuff wrong and as such i think theres no problem in pointing that out.
personally I prefer the term "living fossils", but perhaps the term "immutable species" would be better|| the proverb "clothes do not make the man" can be applied but perhaps it would be better to say "adaptation does not make the fossil"
Hey guys,I really like your channel and videos. But as an evolutionary biologist I have to say that it is really dissapointing to see the "march of progress" used in one of your videos. You have a huge impact on what people think about biology and that false symbol of "progress" in evolution is missinformation. And not completely harmless.
@@Magst3r1 "March of progress" implies that all living things have a set of intrinsic and objective "lower forms" and "higher forms", and evolution is a process of which a species progresses from its lower forms to higher forms, eventually reaching the perfect form. In reality, there isn't any inherently lower or higher forms for a species (let alone "the perfect form"), only forms that are either less or more prolific _in a given environment_ . Evolution also doesn't have a sense of "progress" (or regress), it only branches off; the offsprings are born in various forms, then those with a more prolific form make their form the dominant form of their species, while less prolific forms disappear as their owners die out, and offsprings with forms comparatively prolific with the dominant form either co-exist with the latter or move to a new environment and eventually become new species.
This is actually really fascinating. Honestly kinda makes me wish that some birds just remained dromiosaurs for no other reason than..well I just want a non avian dinosaur as a pet or just to look at
In calculus and computer science that deal with evolutionary algorithms for AI it's called local maximum (local extremes). Whichever way you make a small step it will be downhill but a possible path to a higher peak can start just a few steps away.
You do not actually explain at all why there is anatomical stasis. How horseshoe could be perfectly adapted to environment that change all the time. Maybe there is a specific mechanism that keeps them in anatomical stasis and in fact their ‘shape’ is just good enough for a variety of environments.
Mass extinctions always hit the land harder than the ocean. The ocean just doesn't change that much in temperature, chemistry, etc. Additionally all oceans are interconnected so animals have many opportunities to take refuge instead of being wiped out when big disturbances happen.
"By the way, a MODERN "Coelacanth" is not even the same genus (let alone species) as the fossil coelacanths." - I see your intention, but your wording is flawed
Maybe the animals that turned into land animals were more prone to mutation somehow. Or maybe exposure to more sunlight affects their mutations. Some thoughts on why animals in the water might mutate slower.
Sometimes I wish we just got rid of the word evolve and replace it with adapt. Mutation also is a bit difficult because it’s has both negative and positive conations when it should be neutral. Evolutionary pressure though, great term
Don't change scientific terms just because a group of people go out of their way to not understand what it means. It's as sensible as saying "we shouldn't use the term 'multiply,' we should just say 'add itself this many times.' Completely asinine.
Adaptation is the lamarckist idea of evolution, which has been debunked, evolution and adaptation are different concepts and should not be mixed together.
@@internetlurker1850 No, adaptation is still a concept in evolutionary theory. If there is an end goal to evolution, that would be it. Lamarckian evolution is "inheritance of acquired characteristics"...
@@adrianblake8876 Evolution has no end goal, it is the result of various other processes. I must admit that I worded my comment poorly as I wrote it in a rushed manner, adaptation is in fact part of evolution, but adaptation and evolution aren't the same thing but I'm sure I don't need to explain that to you. Lamarck's concept of evolution still is mainly about adaptation, as animals use more of certain limbs or functions of their body and get exposed to the enviroment they begin to change and adapt, causing evolution(in Lamarck's idea), for example his idea of giraffes getting longer necks and would be an example, they needed to stretch to reach leaves of tall trees, and slowly, over time, adapted to have longer and longer necks, passing on that trait to their children, if that was true it would be an adaptation, even if it wasn't Called adaptation. Truth is, giraffes fight for mates and other things with their necks, so the ones with weaker and smaller necks don't get to reproduce as much, eventually giraffes get some really powerful necks, but no giraffe adapted to get a stronger neck, it's just the ones that already had that characteristic(even if *Way, WAY* less pronounced than current giraffes) got to reproduce, and the ones that had shorter and less powerful necks didn't.
Funnily, I was just listening to the oologies's podcast episode on gars. If you want to learn more about this "long cute ancient patient boopable nightmare fish", I highly recommend it!
This is a very good video. Yeah, it's impressive that some animals have the same body plan as their ancestors from millions of years ago. But maybe the changes are not necessary in body shape. Maybe the changes are related to food digestion, the quality of vision, or behavior. There are many factors to consider, but it really is a fascinating topic.
still, the horseshow crab has gone through basically no major changes in appearance or function throughout its entire time as a species. the only noticeable change is that they seem to be slightly trending upwards in terms of average size.
The term living fossil is useful, it just isn’t as literal as the video is holding it to. It’s perfectly useful to describe a general body shape that works for a very long lasting niche
you know for a lot of animals and plants that are called living fossils it's a shame that not too many people know about all their prehistoric relatives. if there were paleontologist back during the early cretaceous I'm sure they would call something like Koolasuchus a living fossil giving it lived long after the other Temnospondyls went extinct.
My total lack of qualifications isn't going to stop me from taking a stab at this. This almost certainly relates to creatures total population and mobility
I'm enjoying watching your videos, very educational. Although at the end of this one as you are talking about skill share, you said something like "it does to, too." Double negative or something, just sounds redundant. Try using "also" instead of "too" and level up your grammar stats. Cheers!
Excellent video. What about Mangos and Avocados? Couldn't they be called 'living fossils'? They only exist because humans keep them around mechanically, but in their "natural" environment, they would have gone extinct in the last ice age.
They still do change though, right? It's just that now the humans dictate what changes occur. Maybe apples or other fruit, which keeps the same varieties due to grafting (essentially cloning), could be called a living fossil if a variety lasts long enough?
@@jakistam1000Apples still need a base to be grafted on. I don't know the science of grafting, though, how genetically distant trees can be and you'll still get successful grafting!?
Horseshoe crabs are awesome! They have blue blood because copper transports oxygen instead of iron. Their blood is also extremely valuable for developing medicine, although sadly some die from their blood being taken.
Gar: Nothing wrong with taking your time with something
Tuatara: COOOCAAAAAINNNEEE
This is so funny I'm gonna like it even though I don't understand
The tuatara evolves fast and the gar evolves slow, but we don’t understand why the tuatara evolves so it’s as if the tuataras’ evolution is on drugs I think
“Been here since uhhhh… millions of years ago? I forgor.” - random old tuatara
Can't like, must keep at 420...
made me think of huggbees explaining snowflame
If it ain't broke, don't fix it: Shout-out to all my blue blooded creatures.
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What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
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@@JesusPlsSaveMe im turning into a horseshoe crab and reach perfection
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Tuatara: I've taken a controversial pill that accelerates my evolution
Mammal: So you're really advanced now?
Tuatara: I'm primitive FASTER
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Fittest doesnt mean most complex. There's a reason overengineering causes all sorts of problems in machinery.
Fun fact sort of related to the video:
The longest lasting species I'm aware of is Grypania spiralis, which existed for around 1.2 billion years. Yes, that's one single species. Not a clade. Not a genus. A single species.
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There's a nuance though. With how little is left of them, and hence is known about them, it's not certain they're a single species. Or even a complete organism at all?
@@BuranStrannik I mean, I haven't seen anyone suggest that they're part of a larger organism, and it probably wouldn't make sense if they were. They're essentially just long, coiled filaments, which is a pretty normal morphology, all things considered.
Some have considered some of the earlier forms to be potentially different to later forms (Neoproterozoic fossils from the Franklin Mountains,
northwestern Canada: stratigraphic and palaeobiological
implications) though, with them being suggested to be composites. (The paper 'Eukaryotic organisms in Proterozoic oceans' did disagree with that conclusion, however, and the paper 'The long-ranging macroalga Grypania spiralis from the Ediacaran Doushantuo Formation, Guizhou, South China' states that the species had undergone little change in morphology throughout it's existence).
@@JesusPlsSaveMeso we shouldn’t research about the animals on our planet?
When I catch the horseshoe crab in Animal Crossing: New Horizons, I thought about how it managed to stay the same for millions of years. It’s impressive.
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HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
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I've asked about this, and it makes sense. Natural selection favors the ideal vehicle for the environment. If that environment doesn't change, neither will the species. Your environment includes predation, food-sources, temperature etc. Still amazing to think their environment hasn't changed in such a long time.
This should be higher up. I think the absence of environmental pressure contributes a lot to a species not changing. I don't think this is mentioned in the video.
100MY does include the KT extinctione event, so the environment would have gone through some significant changes especially in terms of other animals in the system.
It think it is still fair to call these species living fossils, because by Darwin's definition (as paraphrased in the video at 00:19), they are species "seem" like they are frozen in time. I don't think the term is meant to imply they are frozen in time and have not mutated at all. Just that they seem that way.
that´s logic i can get behinde
But that's what most people take it to mean.
@@jaredf6205 Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Yeah, saying Darwin is wrong (on the existence of what us and hin casually calla Living Fossil) is dumb clickbait.
I mean, it worked... but still annoying
@@gregoryfenn1462 It can't be clickbait cos they didn't put that in the title or the thumbnail. It was in the middle of the video - by that point you'd already clicked and were watching the video.
Evolution isn't going for some sort of predetermined end goal. Heck, it isn't even going for perfection.
Evolution basically goes for "eh, good enough".
That too good for that particular time.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
It should have just been called change rather then evolution the name is really confusing
@@luisfilipe2023 evolution just means "gradual change", not "becoming more advanced"...
Evolution is the C++ of nature; just patchjobs upon patchjobs.
“Are you evolving?”
Gars: “Yeah, but slowly”
slooooooooowly
Is it ok if I make a random bfdi reference?
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We do actually see many different forms of horseshoe crab in the fossil record - there's one with huge "wings" going out and back each side of the shell.
At least twice horseshoe crabs split off freshwater variants! There aren't any around at the moment, but that could happen again in the future.
0:40 just learnt that there is a stupid boar that dies from its tusks growing backwards piercing its skull.
Damn dying from the same thing that protects you
babirusa sort of just dont have any natural predators although, and its really only a problem that crops up in old males, i cant verify this is true but i wouldnt be surprised if that uncontrolled growth is either because its not really selected against an older member post reproductive age just dying or even maybe some factor which helps balance their population on a small island with few large predators, so an old male doesnt say harass the rest of the population or continue to utilise the limited resources or anything but that's all speculation.
@@TesterOuO Live by the tusk, die by the tusk.
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1:58 The helicoprion at the background is drawn according to old reconstructions. After CT scan we now know their teeth don't roll outside of their jaws like this. Also helicoprion went extinct in early Triassic 250 million years ago.
I thought you said helicopter
Also what do they look like now
boy i sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
I suppose a factor of this may be that changes that look insignificant to us may actually have huge impacts overall. Small changes in skull bone structure or fin length/shape may look identical to us but come with big changes in bite strength or efficiency of moving through water. Our pattern recognising brains will say "these are basically the same" even if they have way different properties in their application.
Or changes in the cell chemistry to fend of parasites or toxins more efficient.
I don't like the Darwin slander here... You make it sound like he was completely bamboozled or that he took concepts like "living fossil" very literally. The guy who discovered (and/or semi-co-discovered) evolution was obviously smart enough to know evolution happens at different rates, and happens in ways that are not noticeable, even in spite of having access to literally none of the information we have today that help us understand the mechanisms behind it.
Oh, shut up. We know what he meant
Chill out, denis. Not like you had anything valuable to add.
Anyway, I get why the "darwin slander" irks you but I think the phrasing was mostly theatrical. Minute earth is part learning, part entertainment. It's not a lecture. Things are meant to be exaggerated sometimes. Makes it more engaging :)
@@diosdehuecomundo you are right, I was aggressive but I thank you for acknowledging my point after acknowledging my faux pas.
You're right
But isn't that what Darwin thought, Darwin reckoned living fossils where do to stable niche and/or ecology.
Yeah, idk why they dissed him like that when he got it mostly right. I hope noone seriously believes that he claimed these animals didn't change at all
@@DemsW Darwin didn't know about genes so if two animals had looked identical in their morphology he might well have thought that they hadn't changed at all.
This is not a diss against the man, simply a limitation of the science of his time.
"Yo, dude. Wanna evolve physically?"
"Nah, I'm fine."
Darwin himself thought living fossils are the way they are due to a lack if changes in their environment meaning that there isn’t any pressure to change physical in any notable way
I'm not sure Darwin thought they "don't change at all", but realized they were changing slowly, as you said because they were working well
1:31 Oh, i wanted a pet chimp-garoo
Two very brutal creatures in one
The bite and brutality of a chimp and the kick and strength of a kangaroo.
Or would it be a Kangazee?
@@AdamantineCat It's a chimparoo if the father is a chimpanzee and the mother is a kangaroo. It's a kanganzee if the father is a kangaroo and the mother is a chimpanzee.
That would be legitimately fucking TERRIFYING
@@billberg1264 But what is it if both the chimpanzee and the kangaroo IDENTIFIES as the mother?
Honestly love these videos, so entertaining
here you go: ua-cam.com/video/LWB0-tGwb_E/v-deo.htmlsi=C5TPMhXG9k_WMt8Z :)
Imagine if the 100 million year old ancestors of humans could see into today’s world
dude they’re like rodents they wouldn’t care
The 100 mya ancestor of humans was in the video (the chimp/kangaroo one)
Probably would be wondering where all the dinosaurs went.
They would probably live in my basement and eat pet dogs and cats which are not fast enough. 😅
"What's that rainbow-colored fire on that your soft-rock tablet?
How it doesn't hurt to touch?
How does it make sound?
Do you cook food with it?"
Imagine if your great great great …… grandparents looked just like you
Mine did
Tbh I literally look like my dad and grandpa when they were my age
Like I EXACTLY like them. And my brother also looked like them
Actually, they usually do, especially if you see them all at the same age.
That is more intuitive, what do you mean.
The replies are missing the point of the "..."
1:45 oh shit, if they can evolve so fast, they must have already reached their peak form millions of years ago
Can you make a video on which things can cross breed and which cant, and why.
From what ive gathered in 13 years of existing
"If breeder gene is simular to breeded gene, it will make fertile offspring"
Horseshoe crab reached its peak and whatever it did would count as weakening it
What's so surprising? We already know that crabs are the optimal being
the true optimal being are crab people
Can you please do a video on how we got domesticated cats
Here you go! It's an old one but a good one: ua-cam.com/video/LWB0-tGwb_E/v-deo.htmlsi=ZLO2o9laln-nsoEs
Domesticated cats got us.
One day, cats saw that a lot of mice were gathering around stra ge new caves which pop up around some hairless monkeys.
It was also protected from rain and coldness.
So the cats decided to move in and allow us to serve them. 😊
They just kinda domesticated themselves
@@molybdaen11 And forgo the false Gods that were the mice!
Yeah... I'm just bad at jokes...
2:25 Evolutionary Mewing 🗿🗿
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Reject horseshoe crab return to horseshoe crab
lmao
There are some creatures that are so ideally suited to their environments, that they can weather fairly major changes without need for radical adaptation.
Just a little bit of minor tweaking needed.
Evolution also does not happen for the purpose of evolution. If there is no need to evolve and evolving also cannot currently provide any major benefit, then what would be the point of evolving? Sure, there are always random mutations but if those cannot provide any noticeable benefit, they will not propagate very far.
Wrong. Plenty of negative and neutral things exist widespread in evolutionary chains. We have a bunch of them. What matters is the percentage with a given gene who get to breeding age before it kills them, not whether an outside observer might consider the gene an overall good, bad, or neutral thing for the longevity of the species.
If a species only lives for 3 months on average because they have some horrible genetic defect that takes them out, there is no evolutionary pressure to remove that defect if they can reproduce effectively within 2 months.
There might even be the occasional member who doesn't have that gene and gets to live the fullest possible 8 years for it's species instead but they're not likely going to be able to outbreed the members who only get 3 months (especially given they almost certainly still carry the bad gene meaning their offspring will likely have it as well) so nothing will change even if it's technically "better".
There is no value judgment happening with evolution, just pure statistics.
I don't know why, I've seen multiple MinuteEarth videos, but this is the video that compelled me to subscribe. Thanks for the video, and great job!
Gar: guys i have plan. we going to evolve slowly, everyone clear.
Tuatara: leeerooooooyyyyy jenkiiiinsssssss
1:58 helicorpion was around 400 million years ago
3:02 opabina was 500 million years ago, it was literally one of the first major animals
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I've seen this happen in simulation. I had a species that grew to extreme lengths in the Android app Cell Lab, with a spine that alternated branching off cells/organelles on either side. I left it running for so long that it had completely reorganized its genome but retained or revolved an identical structure despite the mutations to literally all of its genome.
I know there's a british owl that used to be white but after global warming melted lots of the snow and had lots of smoke it became black in a few years
same with the peppered moth
? there's no case like this, the most simillar thing was with the peppered moth, where soot from the industrial revolution meant that there was an increase in dark coloured surfaces and a decrease in light surfaces, thus favouring a specific morph of the moth (which had already existed) and shifting the population structure of the moths to favour that dark morph [which is an example of natural selection]
@@AXiong-x7yI am pretty sure he meant that, just somehow his brain exchanged the moth and owl.
You have conflated it with the moth thing but owl microevolution is a real phenomenon. The survival rates of brown owls compared to gray owls have risen due to the reduced amount of snow.
@@pcenero Hm? what species has a brown and grey morph(I dont think itd be snowy owl as I believe those phase in and out of plumages and cant think of any other uk owls that could possibly be dimorphic)? I haven't heard of any climate changed induced micro-evolution in owls but would happily be proven wrong with a good source!
In the case of crabs, their form is so ideal that other species become them
This seems like an interesting video.
It was indeed an interesting video.
@@oreosaurs2658 ye, it was neat.
I don't think Darwin believed that these "living fossils" hadn't changed at all, just that their skeletons hadn't noticeably changed. That's still not quite true, but it's close to being true and appeared to be true based on the incomplete fossils available to him at the time. And at any rate, their skeletons are certainly similar, much more so than most animals.
He supposed that this was due to stabilizing selection, which is still the leading hypothesis. So he was basically right.
I kinda think that's what he meant - its body plan works so well that they've looked the same FOR THE MOST PART for eons.
Imagine the horror of a Chimp's brutality and intellect, paired with Kangaroos mobility and size
To borrow from tier zoo: A meta build will remain a meta build if the meta does not change
I love Tier Zoo's game based analysis of nature.
David we are evoluted
Once an animal is optimized for its environment, there is no pressure on the genome.
But that doesn't mean change doesn't continue.
If there is no pressure doesnt mean that animals with bad mutations don't die off and animals with mutations that are superior to normal genes don't pass them on thus furthering the species! That still happens!
pressure remains but it's type change.
Keeping genome same become the new type of pressure.
The Tuatara has a car named after it
Are species that seem to evolve much slower less likely to go extinct than ones that evolve fast? Or is it the other way around? I would think that if a species can remain unchanging for millions of years it would probably be less likely to face extinction, but I could be wrong.
It's about the environment and the other organisms, rather than the rate of evolution. Organisms that don't evolve do so because they don't need to, and ones that do, do so because they do need to.
Interesting question. It would seem that evolving slowly could be harmful in a rapidly-changing environment. Like, if you can't adapt quickly enough, you will go extinct. Species that don't seem to change much over time are likely the ones fortunate enough to live in environments that have been fairly stable during that time.
@@MinuteEarth Humanity is a prime example of a species that stopped evolving because we stopped needing to, as we rose to power through technology. Now we're burdened by a host of inefficient parts because they aren't detrimental enough to be weaned out, such as the appendix, and our foot structure.
@@Espartanica Saying we stopped evolving seems rather premature. Technology has not exactly been around for very long from an evolutionary point of view, and we have changed over the last few millenia, just not very significantly.
@@Llortnerof Homo sapiens as a species exists for less than a million years, which is only 20,000 generations...
We're probably the slowest breeder on the planet, taking about 25 years to reproduce...
Fascinating!
Never knew about this
Some animals just change internally 🥱
You know. Speaking of Species that hasn't changed much. There is a species of plant that has been around for more then 50 million years known as the Ginkgo biloba, it is the only species in not only the Genus, Family, Order but Division, yes, I mean the Taxonomy Division that contain a single species of Plant and remains unchange for the past over 50 million years.
Your last sentence blew it.
I wonder if advanced intelligent species will become “living fossils” due to basically zero evolutionary pressures, or that it’ll just become a random walk which they basically won’t notice until looking into their deepest archives.
reading the "evolution is fake" comments makes me feel slightly smarter
I know, kick on newest and you know you hit jackpot when the comment has 2 likes and 17 replies
A chimparoo would be terrifying!
Heck yeah horseshoe crabs my boys!
They're the best!
Those animals designs are so good they hardly need to change them. Awesome! Keeping going buddies!
Not fair with Darwin, I bet his theory was species change physically and visually little by little over time and end up adapting. He didn't know about genetics, and now we have "🤓☝actually" people discrediting him by twisting his original argument.
So fucking real!!! Its not like it really matters all that much anyway, so what if a Horseshoe crab has evolved with the oceans shifting chemistry, its impressive you can see a fossil of one and say that it looks like the animal of today!
Living Fossil is a very fair and relevant term to describe animals that are visually not that different. Always will internal workings have to adjust and change.
darwin was one of the first to properly describe evolution, of course he got a bunch of stuff wrong and as such i think theres no problem in pointing that out.
Tuatara: I've tried every evolutionary strategy under the sun and trust me, being a lizard on a warm rock is the best one that I keep coming back to.
personally I prefer the term "living fossils", but perhaps the term "immutable species" would be better||
the proverb "clothes do not make the man" can be applied but perhaps it would be better to say "adaptation does not make the fossil"
Immutable would imply they can't change. They just don't because they don't have a need to.
I think that's even worse because they have undoubtedly changed enough genetically to be considered different species.
So you're telling me that my dream of a chimparoo will never be realized??? What a bummer
Hey guys,I really like your channel and videos. But as an evolutionary biologist I have to say that it is really dissapointing to see the "march of progress" used in one of your videos.
You have a huge impact on what people think about biology and that false symbol of "progress" in evolution is missinformation. And not completely harmless.
Whats wrong about it?
@@Magst3r1 Maybe related to eugenics idk
@@Magst3r1 "March of progress" implies that all living things have a set of intrinsic and objective "lower forms" and "higher forms", and evolution is a process of which a species progresses from its lower forms to higher forms, eventually reaching the perfect form. In reality, there isn't any inherently lower or higher forms for a species (let alone "the perfect form"), only forms that are either less or more prolific _in a given environment_ . Evolution also doesn't have a sense of "progress" (or regress), it only branches off; the offsprings are born in various forms, then those with a more prolific form make their form the dominant form of their species, while less prolific forms disappear as their owners die out, and offsprings with forms comparatively prolific with the dominant form either co-exist with the latter or move to a new environment and eventually become new species.
This is actually really fascinating. Honestly kinda makes me wish that some birds just remained dromiosaurs for no other reason than..well I just want a non avian dinosaur as a pet or just to look at
No bird was a dromeosaurid (note the spelling).
@Dr.Ian-Plect well they did descend from a similar species like microrptor
@@daviddimitrov3696 Microraptor (again, note the spelling) was a dromeosaurid, your wording is poor.
@Dr.Ian-Plect I missed a letter. Besides I haven't done much research on the ancestry of birds. I've been more focused on non-avian dinosaurs
@@daviddimitrov3696 ok
The title made me think of us humans first.
In calculus and computer science that deal with evolutionary algorithms for AI it's called local maximum (local extremes). Whichever way you make a small step it will be downhill but a possible path to a higher peak can start just a few steps away.
You do not actually explain at all why there is anatomical stasis. How horseshoe could be perfectly adapted to environment that change all the time. Maybe there is a specific mechanism that keeps them in anatomical stasis and in fact their ‘shape’ is just good enough for a variety of environments.
Mass extinctions always hit the land harder than the ocean. The ocean just doesn't change that much in temperature, chemistry, etc. Additionally all oceans are interconnected so animals have many opportunities to take refuge instead of being wiped out when big disturbances happen.
This is awesome and useful content
Spoiler alert: At no time was Evolution broken.
Second Spoiler alert: Darwin isn't Evolution Jesus
Would ancient horseshoe crabs and modern ones produce fertile offspring?
I think the video suggests the answer is "no"; their genes are too different (which is what correlates to breeding compatibility)...
By the way, a MODERN "Coelacanth" is not even the same genus (let alone species) as the fossil coelacanths.
"By the way, a MODERN "Coelacanth" is not even the same genus (let alone species) as the fossil coelacanths."
- I see your intention, but your wording is flawed
Maybe the animals that turned into land animals were more prone to mutation somehow. Or maybe exposure to more sunlight affects their mutations. Some thoughts on why animals in the water might mutate slower.
Today's Fact: The smallest particle in the universe is a quark, which is over 10,000 times smaller than a proton.
What about neutrinos the particle for light
@@oriscomapping1565neutrinos are not light particles, I think those are photons
But yeah, I'm pretty sure they're lighter
Neutrinos are much, much smaller
Which is still larger than any serotonin i may have
So basically these organisms became so well adapted to their environment that they don’t need to adapt anymore
If it's not broke, don't fix it.
it reminds me how there are very subtle differences in the skulls of humans from different races
Sometimes I wish we just got rid of the word evolve and replace it with adapt. Mutation also is a bit difficult because it’s has both negative and positive conations when it should be neutral.
Evolutionary pressure though, great term
"evolve" just means "change gradually", it's not a wrong word..
Don't change scientific terms just because a group of people go out of their way to not understand what it means. It's as sensible as saying "we shouldn't use the term 'multiply,' we should just say 'add itself this many times.' Completely asinine.
Adaptation is the lamarckist idea of evolution, which has been debunked, evolution and adaptation are different concepts and should not be mixed together.
@@internetlurker1850 No, adaptation is still a concept in evolutionary theory. If there is an end goal to evolution, that would be it. Lamarckian evolution is "inheritance of acquired characteristics"...
@@adrianblake8876 Evolution has no end goal, it is the result of various other processes. I must admit that I worded my comment poorly as I wrote it in a rushed manner, adaptation is in fact part of evolution, but adaptation and evolution aren't the same thing but I'm sure I don't need to explain that to you.
Lamarck's concept of evolution still is mainly about adaptation, as animals use more of certain limbs or functions of their body and get exposed to the enviroment they begin to change and adapt, causing evolution(in Lamarck's idea), for example his idea of giraffes getting longer necks and would be an example, they needed to stretch to reach leaves of tall trees, and slowly, over time, adapted to have longer and longer necks, passing on that trait to their children, if that was true it would be an adaptation, even if it wasn't Called adaptation.
Truth is, giraffes fight for mates and other things with their necks, so the ones with weaker and smaller necks don't get to reproduce as much, eventually giraffes get some really powerful necks, but no giraffe adapted to get a stronger neck, it's just the ones that already had that characteristic(even if *Way, WAY* less pronounced than current giraffes) got to reproduce, and the ones that had shorter and less powerful necks didn't.
Funnily, I was just listening to the oologies's podcast episode on gars. If you want to learn more about this "long cute ancient patient boopable nightmare fish", I highly recommend it!
Micro Evolution = Fact… Macro Evolution = Fairytale
you = ret@rded
Ken Ham, is that you?
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Huh
Neat.
This is a very good video. Yeah, it's impressive that some animals have the same body plan as their ancestors from millions of years ago. But maybe the changes are not necessary in body shape. Maybe the changes are related to food digestion, the quality of vision, or behavior. There are many factors to consider, but it really is a fascinating topic.
I was not aware about the transition to salt water for the Celo.
So basically horseshoe crabs are the peak of ocean sea floor evolution
still, the horseshow crab has gone through basically no major changes in appearance or function throughout its entire time as a species. the only noticeable change is that they seem to be slightly trending upwards in terms of average size.
The term living fossil is useful, it just isn’t as literal as the video is holding it to. It’s perfectly useful to describe a general body shape that works for a very long lasting niche
The Gingko tree is also fascinating to examine.
you know for a lot of animals and plants that are called living fossils it's a shame that not too many people know about all their prehistoric relatives. if there were paleontologist back during the early cretaceous I'm sure they would call something like Koolasuchus a living fossil giving it lived long after the other Temnospondyls went extinct.
i have just learned about tuatara's and i am sad i didnt know about it earlier
My total lack of qualifications isn't going to stop me from taking a stab at this. This almost certainly relates to creatures total population and mobility
Once again the horseshoe crab is shown to be the peak life form.
I'm enjoying watching your videos, very educational. Although at the end of this one as you are talking about skill share, you said something like "it does to, too." Double negative or something, just sounds redundant. Try using "also" instead of "too" and level up your grammar stats. Cheers!
No need to change perfection^^
Excellent video. What about Mangos and Avocados? Couldn't they be called 'living fossils'? They only exist because humans keep them around mechanically, but in their "natural" environment, they would have gone extinct in the last ice age.
They still do change though, right? It's just that now the humans dictate what changes occur.
Maybe apples or other fruit, which keeps the same varieties due to grafting (essentially cloning), could be called a living fossil if a variety lasts long enough?
@@jakistam1000Apples still need a base to be grafted on. I don't know the science of grafting, though, how genetically distant trees can be and you'll still get successful grafting!?
*horseshoe crabs 100 MYA”
“Yeah I kinda got this s*** figured out”
Horseshoe crab saw the future and they just didnt wanna pay bills
They seem to completed the evolution like a video game and tries world records by re-playing over and over again
Great video! :)
When a program runs good enough, it just receives hot fixes for 100k years.
Damn now i wan a little Chimparoo
Horseshoe crabs are awesome! They have blue blood because copper transports oxygen instead of iron. Their blood is also extremely valuable for developing medicine, although sadly some die from their blood being taken.
And here I thought everything was turning into crab.
The devs needs to fix this bug guys.