Sonic Forces for Nintendo Switch Review and Impressions [SPOILERS]
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- I was REALLY looking forward to Sonic Forces, and while it's certainly not the worst 3D Sonic game, I have many opinions on it...
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Please make more reviews! I love seeing your input on Sonic games.
I swear Infinite is based off of Nazo, they better be paying you.
I honestly think that Infinite could've been better.
He finds Shadow,yells out "Take THIS!",(yeah,the so called "Ultimate Mercenary" doesn't understand the concept of the words "Don't yell at your f***ing target!")gets his ass kicked by Shadow,whines for a bit,and BOOM,he wants the world destroyed.
...really?
That's it?
Actually,no.
The problem isn't that "That's it."
The problem is that they do nothing with it.
Option A: Show him being an egotist.
The game could've showed him being the top dog in the past and how being the said top dog affected his ego.
That way,him taking the Phantom Ruby would've made more sense.
He was probably so full of himself that he thought something like "Pf,I don't need some shiny rock to defeat anyone!"
Think about it.
Why didn't he take the Ruby before?
The damn thing lets him "make all yield to his will",so...why not?
Option B: Make his Squad more relevant.
We don't know if Shadow just defeated or actually _killed_ Squad Jackal.
Either way,Infinite would've been so vengeful that he couldn't even think straight so he went after Shadow alone.
That would've explained his lust for power.
Option C: Call him out on being petty/Mock him.
Here are some scenarios:
1.
Infinite: And _that..._ is why I am like this.
Sonic: ...pf...pff..
Infinite: ...?
Sonic: PffFFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Infinite: Wha--Why are you laughing?! Stop that!
Sonic: HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Infinite: I said STOP THAT!
Sonic: Haha...aaah...Oh...oh man! I haven't laughed so hard in a _while!_
Infinite: What?!
Sonic: Seriously dude?
_That's_ you're reason for doing this?
"Oh boo-hoo,that black and red meanie beat me in a fight! Oh woe is me!"
Infinite: Y-you...don't you MOCK ME!
Sonic: Or what?
You're gonna tell on me?
Infinite: GrrrraAAH! *attacks Sonic*
2.
Infinite: That's right Shadow.
I've only become what I am because of _you._
Shadow: ...tch.
Infinite: Hmm?
Shadow: If that's the thing that made you want to destroy the world,then you truly _are_ pathetic.
Infinite: H-how DARE YOU?!
I AM ALL-POWERFUL!
Shadow: No...You're not.
Infinite: Huh?!
Shadow: _The Phantom Ruby_ is all-powerful.
_You_ are nothing more then an angsty child throwing a temper tantrum.
Infinite: YOOOOOOOOU! *attacks Shadow*
Option D: Have the Story centered around Shadow.
What if Shadow actually felt guilty for inadvertently turning Infinite into the monster that he is _and_ for allowing Eggman to take over 99% of the world?
Would've that been interesting?
Option E: Mix them all together.
Pretty self-explanatory.
Option F: Do something completely different.
There were a _ton_ of theories about Infinite before the game came out and honestly,any of those would've been fine.
Sorry for the long comment. I had to get it of my chest somehow.
*sigh*
Oh well.
Maybe the people over at IDW will actually do _something_ with him.
Only time will tell.
I'm agree. Sega can even show Infinite face and put more information about Infinite. About he want destroyed the world because was kicked by Shadow it's not actually that. In the Sonic Forces Comic Infinite said that he was tired of the world as it is. Only person with hard life could say that. And the final battle in Sonic Forces he said that friendship is illusion and in life you count only on yourself. Seeing how he look like on comic and what he say I'm realize that Sonic have right. In all spieces everyone have many colors of flur (or color shade like echidnas) but Jackals are only black and white and they look so scary. They have claws and fangs. Other spieces or are afraid or tease them because of their flur color, look or both of them. I don't know how approach to his Jackal Squad he have but maybe Infinite only count on yourself and other Jackals who have the same experience like he had. They are not really friends. Rather comrades to his life. Shadow was trigger that pushed Infinite to destroy the world. World where he never have a truly friend. If Shadow didn't mock him Infinite maybe don't become what he was. It's only my theory but look like it's could be it.
+WilczycaCzarownica
Welp,I guess that makes Option B moot.
I guess yes. But we don't know what actually was in the Infinite past.
That Infinite animation in the intro tho....
Sonic Forces is by far the BLANDEST looking Sonic game to me
JoJo Banks Right next to Shadow The Hedgehog (2005), and Sonic Unleashed for (Wii/PS2)
Nazo vs infinite confermed?
It's a step backwards from Unleashed Colors and Generations with Unleashed still to this day having the best modern Sonic level desgin and for the next boost style game I feel they should take inspiration from Sonic Unleashed daytime stages I say this because 80% of the daytime stages are 3d and have multiple paths so it doesn't feel like your going in one direction plus it some platforming in the 3d sections oh btw they say "From the team that brought you Colors and Generations" fails to mention that this game had half of the people working on that worked on Colors and Generations and had some of the people that help create Lost World
Treyshellz Yeah I gotta play Colors but Unleashed has a special place in my heart. Generations is good to
RaginDXDemon I like Generations also but I do like the stages better in Unleashed plus Generations modern Sonic was 50% 3d and 50% 2d like I said 80% of Unleashed is 3d but that didn't mean I don't like Generations
Treyshellz Sega needs to go out of business or just give Nintendo sonic lol
Damian Lillard nigga you do know that Sonic Team makes the Sonic games right? Also if Sonic was given to Nintendo that means no more awesome 2d fan games the 3d fan games will be taken down which is a good thing because the only good 3d fan game is Sonic Adventure 3 but yea plus I don't think Nintendo would buy Sonic off SEGA
Treyshellz Nintendo does 2d just as good as sega probably even better
Would be funny to see a little story of Nazo meets your Avatar character XD
To be honest, I really liked Modern Sonic's control in this game. It's my favorite boost control since Colors and it just feels so fluid. Hope they reuse it for another game. The Avatar was a bit OP, in my opinion. Infinite ammo AND I can move freely and shoot in all directions?
Finally, U Made An Video!
Awesome review dude!
I also thought what happened to Infinite? My theory is that he was absorbed into the phantom ruby, the real one. What Infinite had was the finalized phantom ruby prototype, so I'm guessing the real phantom ruby called back it's power that was being used by Infinite, making Infinite's consciousness inside the real phantom ruby. And when you defeat the final boss, you're destroying the phantom ruby and in turn Infinite.
Great to see a new Chakra X video! I make video game animations on my channel too! Keep up the great work!
That infinite drawing
You should try doing such reviews more often. I think you've got a knack for it :)
+Konstantin Yordanov haha thanks! It took longer than I thought but I might do more of these if I don’t have animation stuff to post
Stage 7's double boost moment was the best part of the game, especially if you put a lot of thought into your avatar.
i can't wait for sonic the wrath of nazo :)
*Review by: Darkky*
*Pasted for the sixth time.*
*(Can’t wait for Wrath of Nazo!)*
this game was mediocre. Honest. I know that’s what everyone is saying, but it’s true! For around two years we’ve awaited this game and it’s been in development for like, what? Four years? That’s crazy. The advertisement I can say is really bad. Hooters? Come on, Sega.
I haven’t explained why it’s mediocre yet, so let’s go!
_The Plot_
We all thought this would be the darkest tone in a Sonic game yet, maybe rivaling Shadow the Hedgehog? I don’t know. I guess that’s “opinionated”. Besides the point, I had high hopes for the plot; extremely excited.
You had recurring villains from the past games: Shadow, Metal Sonic, Zavok, and Chaos. I swear to god, I almost cried with joy, why? I won’t explain it… but I love Zavok by the way -that’s a first-.
Apparently Eggman has taken over the world due to the power of the Phantom Ruby, of which, is in Infinite’s chest. Infinite defeated Sonic and our lovable blur was sent to prison aboard the Death Egg, where he was tortured for six months.
He comes back, and he acts as if everything was normal. Cracking jokes and puns, but I will say one thing: what were the developers thinking? Sonic is my favorite character, but god, the way he acted in this ominous plot ruined it for me. I disliked Sonic’s character to a degree in this. Silver or Rouge was preferable.
Classic Sonic comes back, he kicks Eggman’s ass, he leaves. Still no reason why he should be here. -Muaw~ Nostalgia.-
You also have your own Custom Hero you can make and edit. My personal opinion? I don’t like it. I know others love it, but it isn’t the thing for me. I want to play as Sonic and go on his adventures, not some lifeless avatar that only grunts and whimpers from time to time. Not to mention the bond with Sonic… I do like the outfits though, I’ll give it that.
Sonic and the Custom Hero defeat Infinite for the third and final time, but he just… vanishes like that. Did they kill him? Or are we going to see more of him in the future?
Oh, did I mention that the villains were a fake? Just illusions. They were never there except for the real Shadow. The fact that Chaos served no purpose but to get one-shotted by the Classic Sonic that really served no purpose.
I feel as if there were many things left out. The story? Hey, I guess it’s an A for Effort.
_The Gameplay and Visuals_
Hooo, boy…
Sonic games have a history for terrible gameplay. Is this better, you say? Yeah. I guess it’s alright.
But then you have levels that really serve the meaning of Boost to Win and last only a minute or two. This is lacking quality over quantity. There are thirty stages in the game where Sonic, Classic Sonic, and the Custom Hero traverse throughout.
The visuals are stunning, but on the Nintendo Switch, some would have to disagree. When on the Handheld mode, it runs on 30fps. Doesn’t matter though, as when hooked up to a TV, it’ll run at 720p. For Xbox One and PlayStation 4, it runs at 1080p.
Boss Battles? Eh. Unsatisfying. You don’t fight Chaos or even the fake Shadow. Just Zavok, Eggman, Metal Sonic, and Infinite. There’s only eight bosses in the game, and you fight Infinite three times. They were okay to be honest with you. The final boss was another rehash of Colors and Lost World. Great thinking, Sonic Team.
_The Music_
Like any other Sonic game, you can expect legendary music. This was one of those games. Although some tracks like Casino Forest are bland, it’s totally opinionated. Not much to say about this part, but the standouts for me is definitely Sunset Heights and Light of Hope. But they did overuse the synths in this game.
_Conclusion_
Sonic Forces was a game I had waited a long time for, and in the end, I feel like the wait wasn’t worth it. I don’t dislike Forces, but I don’t love it. It’s just… bland. In my way, it’s unfinished. Sonic doesn’t have an idle animation, Eggman has no lines during the final boss, Infinite… I feel like he was just there. In Episode Shadow, he seems to go berserk after Shadow calls him weak, and guess what happens?
Sonic Forces happens. The whole reason Infinite is Infinite is because of that encounter with Shadow. I don’t know why, but it doesn’t feel satisfying. There’s also many questions to be answered like:
Why is part of Green Hill a desert? How is Knuckles the leader? -Don’t mention the prequel comics; I’ve read them.- Why was Infinite in a test tube in the opening when in Episode Shadow it shows him taking the Phantom Ruby and inserting it in himself. And, my god, where is my dose of SonAmy?!
*_6/10_*
Darkky your in almost every soinc related comment section
While i agree with you from what i've been told it took 4 years to make the engine for the game and 1 year for the game itself not to mention the team working on this was a surprisingly small group for a sonic game considering that the end credits at best showed like 3 game designers.
👏👏👏👏👏 😂😂😂😂 i think u should be a critic when you get older
Darkky you have to realize that sonic has been killed and had a literal timer for his life in his chest
this isn't a first for sonic
he's always been known to come out of these easy going
once again he was literally DYING an entire game and was completely chill about it, making quips etc.
Plus i doubt sega would wanna have their mascot character suffering from heavy ptsd symptoms.
It was in heavy development for 1 year.
To be honest, after I finished this game, I was like... "Wellllllll.. time to go back to Generations"
12:00 OMG HE MADE NAZO AS THE AVATAR!!!
Cute Infinite animation! :3
Forgot about the part in episode shadow that butchers Infinite’s character even more. He knew what he was getting himself into when signing that contract for Eggman. He knew that he didn’t stand a chance against Shadow but still complained like a baby. I would also put some blame on Eggman for even having the thought to give Infinite the phantom ruby.
What are your thoughts on this Chakra-X?
Great review. Glad you thought the game was okay and not bash it like other Sonic fans. Wish I could play it and bring my own opinion.
I love that moving animation of Infinite.
Chakra X doing reviews now? Alright
Eggman takes samples of infinite’s blood, inserts it into Nazo. And now he can manipulate universes instead of just the mind
I agree with your conclusion 16:52. This game really feel unfinished like if they change their mind at the last minute or cut some contents...
Nazo vs Infinite
SmearyPage Nazo wins
Nazo wins no question
Infinite: IM NOT WEAK, RAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
Nazo would rek him
Infinite: I AM NOT WEEAA-
Nazo: *kills him* -oookay that's enough out of you
Create a DLC for sonic forces
Nazo Unleashed
Don’t you mean “Episode Nazo”?
Sonic the Gamer Woah! That will be cool! Maybe he find Infinite and ask him to join him and get revenge on Sonic.
That was amazing! And Have Mirror Nazo
The Good Nazo to play with nazo
You should do more videos like this chakra x and I agree with you this game had its issues and I have to admit Sega made it seem like this was the game everyone was waiting for with marketing only to be false
I would love to see more reviews from you since I actually like your personality when reviewing more than Nazo Unleashed, no offense to Nazo Unleashed tho
Nise👌👌👌 I’ve been waiting until News
I have a question:
Will the wrath of nazo movie be in 4K or in another quality?
14:10
Yeah...about that. The developers said that Super Sonic was not planned to be in the game, so there was never a plan for a super fight against Infinite. It seems that the developers wanted to make Infinite a once time character, but after the amount of good feedback that he got maybe the developers saved him for another time to not make people angry
I HATE THAT YOU NEVER GET TO FIGHT CHAOS!!!! I WAS HOPING FOR A 3D AND 3D FIGHT!!
To all that think Infinite sounds familiar: The voice actor for Infinite also played Asura in Asura's Wrath.
Great Review man!!! I'm on your side all the way!! This game was fun, but for the most part it was "meh."
Your going straight un hell I love sonic nazo unleashed dx hopefully sonic nazo writh comes out soon and ik is coming out in 2019 maybe.
They can't keep letting fans down like this it hurts. Everytime I look forward to a Sonic game it turns out as wasted opportunity and it breaks my heart! At least mania was alright but still.
9/10
You probably get this a lot and are probably tired of hearing it but, could you find a way to add the new Fist Bump song somewhere in the final battle in The Wrath of Nazo?
Been a while
Chakra x does sonic the wrath of Nazo really doing to come 2019
--yo where can we get that nifty infinite gif--
How is your Wrath of Nazo Coming dude
Hey chakra could you make some videos on how to make nazo or shadic in sonic forces?
I feel like sega should get help on making a story board on certain sonic fans to help them improve there games.
*Im not really into sonic games I didnt know this was official I tho it was a fangame! Btw cant wait for the Sequel of Nazo Unlseashed!*
14:10 One word: *SEQUEL*
Forces is good but not great, overall I think this game is a way to test out the newly hedgehog engine 2.0 since the engine was made in 3 years maybe they can make the next game better hopefully
Largely echoes my feelings as well.
The game overall is okay, but it is rathrr disapointing. It does feel imcomplete and slapdash in many regards.
Great video.
1 Thing: WHEN IS SONIC FORCES STORY GOING TO BE ADDED TO WRATH OF NAZO?
The better IGN
how to fix forces: Nazo episode DLC lol I'm sorry but I feel that's what most of these comments are X'D
Also unfortunately I cannot watch your whole review due to it containing spoilers. that and I wanna get my son the game because just like you & many others who have/had high hopes for this game and whats to come.
😎
Yo you should make a tv show and post episode of your sonic the whire of nazo pls?!
I've been gathering information from the internet for so long and my conclusion to this game is
It's aight
I agree with you man.
I enjoyed some parts of Sonic Forces, but it was really bland in general.
I saw the concept art of Sonic Forces, and they missed out on a lot of potential. Things really need to change at Sonic Team.
Think about it. The Lead Directors of Sonic Colors and Generations did and awesome job with Sonic The Hedgehog.
But once Nakamura took the Lead Director chair for Sonic Forces, he had no fucking idea what he was doing. (Sorry for the French btw)
If I ever be assigned to Direct a Sonic Game, I’ll give the Fans what they want, that’s Sonic Adventure 3, and an awesome Sonic Game. With great writers, level designers, artists, and great musicians to provide the soundtrack.
Hell, I’ll call to the Sonic Fans and they’ll be a part of this fun project.
Did you make the castume hero in sonic the worth of nazo?
Do you have a link anywhere to your art of Infinite?
I liked Forces, but I feel that the level design was lacking in some areas. A lot of parts looked really similar to Sonic Colors levels. The story was also way too short. But other than that, it was good.
오갓 성님 왜 하필 저걸 샀어요... 왜 하필 저 겜을
The short length of Sonic Forces' levels makes me craving for more. The level design does not utilize the Hedgehog Engine 2 properly and for that, it almost doesn't seem like they did anything relevant or prominent for that matter.
Infinite was wasted as a villain here. He had so much potential and I love the guy but... I've said this plenty of times but I think Ian Flynn (writer from the Archie Sonic comics and the upcoming IDW Sonic comics) should've wrote the story for this game. I think we ALL can agree that he would've wrote a better story and used Infinite better.
I've also seen mockups of a "Super Sonic" battle against a new form of Infinite called "Phantom Infinite". pbs.twimg.com/media/DOc5poMWsAEhaQh.jpg They've should've done this! Infinite should've been the true final boss like Adventure-Unleashed. Why is Eggman the final boss again when he wasn't all that much of a threat in this game? Infinite was superior than Eggman here since he was responsible for taking over 99.9% of the world. W/o Infinite and his control over the Phantom Ruby, Eggman wouldn't have gotten so close to world domination as he did. Such a waste for Infinite, I say.
AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM AT THE END?! WHERE DID HE GO!?!
Dammit I'm second
So I'm early, here's a joke
Silver
No srsly how is he in the story? Any cannon backstory? No? I'm sad...
_BluFox_ It's explained in a prequel comic. And yes. I agree. It should have been explained in game despite that.
Finally someone understands me XD
Ragnarock675 Those comics could've very easily been unlockable in game for collecting things like the Number Rings or Silver Moon Medals, but instead those two collectables unlock nothing. It's sad :/
_BluFox_ wanna hear another joke?
Chaos
Seriously... were is the fight with chaos sega????
Alpha Prodigy And Shadow for that matter!
they should've given it a couple more months
I wonder since u r busy making The Wrath of Nazo (like finish the story boards for the last Act and do the Animation of the first Act), I wonder since you did enjoy things bout Forces like Infinite if Infinite could maybe have a cameo or anythin like that? Who knows we dont even get to know how Nazo came back or how much stronger he got through his Chaos transformation till we saw all of the sequel , but who says Nazo only has Chaos Nazo under his disposal since he did say "*this is only the begining*" after all and who says Nazo only returns once, now that we have Infinite and the Phantom Ruby in the Franchise's main canon? He could return again but empowered by Infinite but since that is just my theory and u rather wanna work on original animation projects post-Wrath of Nazo i guess its way too early to tell...
I think I am going have it is where the Wrath of Nazo takes place before the events of Forces
Chakra-X wow im honoured that you actually answered my question in person 😅 so i guess i can take it as a "wait and see"?
I actually liked the game
If course it has its share of problems like any Video Game out there. For example Sonic’s jump is Stiff AF.The huge Boost that the Avatar does after a second of running. And the Level design I understood why it was that way. And if you dont know the Level Design was done by 3 Noobies in the company
Wait...did Chakra-X make his OC Ex-Aid?
This was my thoughts exactly as well. It's ok... But it could have been so much more ;-;
Hey chakra X make infinite work for Nazo
I kinda finished on the first day i got it which was today (is that normal)
Yeah, I finished the game in like three hours.
oof
Do you ever feel like you want to like sonic force but you can’t.
Unbiasedly Sonic Forces is in the territory of a mediocre game, also i can't quite understand... WHY doesn't anybody also point out the damn low resolution and screen tears of the cutscenes?!
Clássic Sonic is 2 slow
Is it too late to adapt Sonic Forces and infinite into The Wrath of Nazo? I want Infinite and Silver to be included.
Sigh so sad no one cares about Sonic accept me no one here a true Sonic fan accept me I guess I'll be the only one getting team Sonic racing when it comes on may
4/10 don't bother, this game was rushed and had nothing original besides the OC
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