Illiberalism in Medicine: A Conversation With Heather MacDonald and Sally Satel

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2022
  • Join FAIR in Medicine for our webinar Illiberalism in Medicine: A Conversation With Heather MacDonald and Sally Satel hosted by FAIR Board of Advisor, Co-Founder & CEO of Vertex Partnership Academies, and AEI Senior Fellow Ian Rowe. How is DEI affecting medical training and practice? What are solutions to illiberalism in healthcare? Hear from Manhattan Institute Fellow and New York Times bestselling author, Heather MacDonald and AEI Fellow, author, and practicing psychiatrist Sally Satel, MD. To learn more about their thoughts, read Heather MacDonald's The Corruption of Medicine and Sally Satel's What Is Happening to My Profession?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 55

  • @JohnBdog
    @JohnBdog 11 місяців тому +1

    I think Thomas Sowell would be heartened to see your Conversation. Thank you.

  • @kentklostreich95
    @kentklostreich95 Рік тому +5

    Most people have had good lives for so long that they really don't understand that it could all fall apart.

  • @donnafengya3642
    @donnafengya3642 Рік тому +5

    Superb discussion. Heather MacDonald is one of my heroes. And I enjoyed Dr. Satel's perspective from the field of mental health. As a clinical social worker myself, I have lost confidence in the unbiased legitimacy of my field. In fact, the DHP and licensing board in my state have undertaken an audit to investigate why so few "minority" licensing candidates are passing the LCSW exam. I suspect the answer will be fashioned with the optics of "equity," not merit.

    • @Maxmaxmax63
      @Maxmaxmax63 Рік тому +1

      With you there as a fellow social worker. They are going to get rid of the licensing exam entirely, both for LMSW and LCSW. Then, years down the line, when the pay invariably decrease (as it continues to lag far below nurses), racism will once again be called upon as the omnipresent scourge they view it as.

  • @statisticaldemystic6817
    @statisticaldemystic6817 Рік тому +7

    This is a very important message to get out. The steps that we take to address disparities should be judged by their effects, not their intentions. The people who claim to want to save the world owe it to that world to get their facts straight and understand concepts like tradeoffs and unintentional consequences.

  • @edwardmiddlebrook5919
    @edwardmiddlebrook5919 Рік тому +3

    Thank you very much for having the brilliant Mrs Mac Donald -- her clarity of vision and empirical backing are essential to this discussion

  • @ray-hj1do
    @ray-hj1do Рік тому

    thank you

  • @moribundmurdoch
    @moribundmurdoch Рік тому +1

    Justice not social justice - please humanity. 1:01:18 Thank God for Heather.

  • @jasonrichardson0369
    @jasonrichardson0369 Рік тому +1

    Anyone else hear Glenn Loury’s voice when Ian Rowe read the question saying “intellectual lightweight” referring to Kendi and DiAngelo?

  • @carolblume5073
    @carolblume5073 Рік тому +1

    @ 44:50 I believe she is referring to the Geneva Convention which requires military medical personnel to treat even injured enemy combatants the same as our own wounded soldiers when rendering medical treatment. Not to do so could probably be considered a war crime.

  • @CtrlWQ
    @CtrlWQ Рік тому

    I'm gonna grab a beer. Kudos!

  • @DisabilityExams
    @DisabilityExams Рік тому +1

    "Fair" means "I didn't get what I want". No one ever says "That's too fair!".

  • @eswyatt
    @eswyatt 5 місяців тому

    Skip the blather @ 5:30

  • @adamthompson3218
    @adamthompson3218 Рік тому

    34:09-35:42 😓

  • @briannerk3373
    @briannerk3373 Рік тому +1

    47:05 that is about as anti-psychotherapeutic as it gets. Wow!

  • @MikeSmith-fj5jq
    @MikeSmith-fj5jq Рік тому

    What is happening in other countries? Are we alone in this crazy behavior, or is it international?

    • @meganwildhood3893
      @meganwildhood3893 Рік тому +1

      It unfortunately is international. It's especially bad in the US, but it's in a lot of other Western countries. I'm not sure what's causing the suicidal behavior of the West, but that's what we need to address.

    • @republitarian484
      @republitarian484 Рік тому

      @@meganwildhood3893 . . .
      Frankfurt School
      Senator Joe McCarthy tried to warn us.
      General George Patton. . . "we defeated the wrong enemy".
      Post Modernism
      Henry F0rd was right too
      Feminism

  • @kentklostreich95
    @kentklostreich95 Рік тому

    The rest of us have a hard time competing with black people in several domains. Tough bounce for us. If any group in the aggregate has a hard time competing, it does not mean that they are less valuable in their personhood. They just have to adjust. We must not organize our lives around the self-esteem of any particular group.

  • @JKJ1900
    @JKJ1900 Рік тому +1

    I find it ironic, not to mention disappointing, that the speakers decry the issue of Racial Essentialism at the beginning of the talk, only to continue to use Racialized language in a way that reinforces ideas of Racial Essentialism. In particular Satel's comments about "Cultural" differences between people Racialized as White and Black, that implies the cultural norms amongst people Racialized into those groups is somehow homogenous. When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups.
    Not to mention the Fallacy of Relative privations committed by saying that educating medical staff and researchers about Racism is not important or somehow takes away from their abilities to do their jobs. Both issues can be addressed without negatively effecting the persons ability to do their work, and ideally should improve their ability to aid in the medical care of others

    • @machellovelivelife658
      @machellovelivelife658 Рік тому +1

      🤣. I'm trying to watch the whole thing to give a fair (no pun intended) opinion, but I'm not used to hearing someone say "blacks", Heather is saying it so often....its so cringe to me...but I'm trying to push through it...only at 20:45
      love your line " When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups."

    • @republitarian484
      @republitarian484 Рік тому +1

      Integration has failed.
      The different races are actually that. . . different. So different that they should not be living together in large groups.

    • @JKJ1900
      @JKJ1900 Рік тому

      ^^^I was wondering if this kind of person was gonna show up

    • @JKJ1900
      @JKJ1900 Рік тому

      @@sharonschieber she's not doing a good job of citing statistics since she doesn't give her sources for much of what she says. I don't know what "ideology" you're taking about, but educating medical staff about Racism is important when many people still believe in pseudoscientific ideas of Biological Racism that may impact the care of others if people are given roles of responsibility for the care of others while still believing such misinformation

    • @JKJ1900
      @JKJ1900 Рік тому

      @@machellovelivelife658 I had to take the video in bits too due to the cringe inducing comments from the people in the video. I had it about half way threw when they said those who use more gender neutral terms like "people with vulvas" or "people with wombs" are somehow ignoring biological sex 🤣. Let alone that comment about "inner city culture", which is a often used euphemism to refer to people Racialized as Black, that ignores how many people Racialized that way don't live in cities!

  • @sunnyla2835
    @sunnyla2835 Рік тому

    Wait, what?!? Tuskegee mischaracterized?! How so?

  • @sunnyla2835
    @sunnyla2835 Рік тому

    What does mcdonald mean Title 9 destroyed male sports? Does anyone know?

    • @republitarian484
      @republitarian484 Рік тому

      I believe there are more female sports offered than male sports. And if there are not enough girls playing sports and the funding therefore decreases then a male sport will need to be decreased even if you have men that want to play. Men have been emasculated by feminism and title 9. And title 9 has come full circle and is also destroying female sports with this transgender stuff. And the people behind this pushing all this never really cared about sports anyway.