Gerry Adams turns the question round to Ryan Tubridy who tries to slate Adams for IRA connections when he is proud of his grandfather who was in the Anti-Treaty IRA.
turbidy along with along with the rest in this quango of a station would need to learn the art of manners...and listen when people are talking...he know fuck all about the northern conflict so listen to those who have lived thru it.
The fact Tubridy's grandfather served in the IRA is nothing to do with him. He can't claim any credit for it either. Just like it wasn't Max Mosley's fault that his father Oswald was a Nazi-sympathising turd. Gerry Adams may or may not have a chequered past but he's definitely a part of Ireland's present and its near future. Talk about that rather than a period of Irish history most people want to move away from.
@@geoffpoole483Maybe, but his explanation of the “difference” between the IRA back then and the late 20th century version wasn’t very good IMO. How were they different?
In this program, Gerry Adams made a very powerful statement “I was born into a state that didn’t want me”. A rejection by a country of a large minority always causes extreme violence, such as in the Balkans, Palestine and Northern Ireland.
Protecting themselves from guilty protestants(UDA/UDR/UVF/RUC/LVF/MI5/MI6/SAS/B-SSPECIAL/Shankhill Butchers) and tens of thousands of psychotic brit soldiers including scrum PARAS who between the lot injured and killed thousands of Irish men women and children was perfectly reasonable.32EIRE
What we went thru was dowm to the IRA ffs. Hundreds of dead civilians 400 catholcs killed by provos . If you would have been supporting your brothers and sisters you d have been calling for an end to this deeply sectarian campaign.
Looking from outside, it is mind boggling to see how insensitive some leaders and people in the Republic were. They were so selfish and disconnected from to the misery and struggle of their brothers in the north.
Don’t tar all of Britain with the same brush. I think most people in Britain would have gladly given or even paid for N Ireland to unite with the Republic. Small problem was the majority wanted to remain part of the UK.
@@jonathanphillips5514 I'd agree with that most people on the UK mainland have no interest in NI Looking at the history the DUP have alot to answer for and are causing problems yet again
When you read Irish history, the kinds of actions the IRA did in the past isn't much different to what they did in the latter part of the 20th century. During the Easter Rising, Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War there were killings by the IRA, the police, the military, spies, informers, sectarian killings and the British State through its army, its recruits in the Black and Tans, the RIC (Royal Irish Constabulary). The loyalist paramilitaries weren't born in the North, the UVF was created in 1914 and were heavily armed with help from British Conservatives. There were bombings, mine explosions, assassinations, interrogations, mass killings by ambush and by co-ordinated assassinations, hangings, sectarian killing mostly of Catholic Nationalists, homes burnt, internment, long jail sentences on suspect evidence. Anything done in the latter part of the 20th century had already been done in the first half of the century, this re-writing of history by Irish people in the Republic of Ireland is pitiful, its why they don't celebrate their independence very much and its why history of this period is so censored in Irish schools, radio and tv.
@@bornslippy9208 are gonna attempt to lecture me now after using the term "Republic"?? Literally no different to the orange men using Ulster🤦 It's Ireland, one word, that's it.... Amuse me anyway, what if I am living somewhere else, what would your point be?
And the actions the free state government took against the I R.A. during the civil war in the south were twice as bad as the actions the Brits took north of the border against the I.R.A. during the years of the troubles ..At least they were allowed bury their fallen comrades not like what happened in the free state.
@@keeleyg1 I do recall Andrew Marr from the BBC, MR. Adams nemesis, fawning over him, so it was quite refreshing seeing Tubs one of his fellow countrymen with a proud Irish history, not falling for the groomed Mr Adams political speak. As for the comment “ I have no blood on my hands “ The McConville family may have something to say about that. But anyway, to be honest regardless of what side of the fence they were on they should all hang their heads in shame, the blood that was spilled because of their blinkered vision and thinking disgusts me. But you crack on Gareth perpetuating the myth that they were noble in their cause. 🤮
Though not likeable by many, Gerry Adams is absolutely correct in pointing out that the PIRA though often meandering were when active a continuation of the IRA's War of Independence 1919-1921. This is unpalatable to many, as were the actions of the USA/UVF/RUC/British Army, etc during what became known as the Troubles in Northern Ireland. However, Gerry Adams comes across as hypocritical when on one hand he makes the case for acceptance of the PIRA, and on the other hand denys his personal involvement/membership of the said PIRA.
I think people miss the most important part of that clip about Tubridys grandfather - he was anti treaty. Which means he probably and most likely would have supported the PIRA campaign.
Whilst Gerry Adams was getting his hands dirty and fighting for freedom, little Ryan was in the front room of his upper middle class home playing with his train set and his sister's dolls.
I read with interest the biography of Bobby Sands. He simply wanted to do his job in a coach building company, no interest in politics. He was hounded out by Unionist employees, threatened at gunpoint. It's hardly surprising that people start to fight back.
@@joprocter4573what doesnt ring true specifically ? Its already well documentated that Sands' was one of many Catholic families threatened by loyalists to leave rathcoole. He was also stabbed in a sectarian assault as a teenager. So what they other guy said rings very true
Adams makes a fair point here and even the host knows it so he tries to shut down discussion "I'm not going to get into a political discussion....." lol ...you've got a politician on your show who you have invited.
Ryan asking the tough questions to the real FF/FG opposition so FF or FG can regain power and give this clown more pay rises while people across the 26 counties suffer
Tubridy is emblematic of southern partitionist opinion. My grandfather was also in the IRA. Not the 'old' IRA - no such entity existed. I am deeply ashamed of how we in the south abandoned our northern brethren to the loyalist hoodlums in the north. As was my grandfather. A large measure of blame attaches to those in the south who looked the other way when nationalists in the north looked here for help. When they turned their back on them the nationalist community had nowhere else to go when violence was instigated by the loyalists against their peaceful protests for human rights. Remember - the first RUC man to be murdered in the troubles was murdered by loyalists. To sneer at the people of the north who defended themselves because we wouldn't defend them is a double insult - especially coming from one who sat in his Dublin home in comfort as nationalists less than a hundred miles away underwent multiple forms of discrimination and intimidation.
Why do you call Ireland the south? We are not south of anything. You are using British terminology to describe our country. Just because people in Dublin are not hurling petrol bombs at British soldiers does not mean we do not want a United Ireland. We built a strong economy and country while the UK government abandoned NI to rot. Ireland is growing in attractiveness every day compared to remaining with the UK. And do you know why? Chuck Feeney. A united island will be thanks to him.
Republicans turned their backs on them when they decided to leave the UK. Sinn Fein signed the North away. And now Ireland as been partitioned for over 100 years.
Actually, you are right. Byrne, did the same thing, refused to shake Gerry's hand, and yet he nearly kissed the feet of Stone, a protestant terrorist, who really did have blood on his hands.
The last point in the video where Gerry makes the point “I was born into a state where people of an National mind were abandoned” really hits souther twits like tubridy and others deep. Many southerners who turned away from what was happening in the north would have rather ignored the fact that great violence was committed on behalf of them and were willing to live a life of relative comfort after partition while the north was subject to abject discrimination.
That's all well and good but by that, are you saying those people did or didn't want violence committed on their behalf? I'll die on the hill all day long (and my mother's family originate in Dublin's Liberties, my father's in west Belfast) that says the great majority of Irish people in the south DIDN'T want to have those dreadful acts committed in their name by anybody; their own much closer to home or by people in the north. So, let's not denigrate southerners as being "ungrateful", as if they should feel any other way than they do, which is tired of the violence and the all the conditions which come with it (yes, even in sympathy with those in the north). You can do that while holding and making the legitimate case for Irish independence. Goodness me.
@@MatthewCyUK my overall point is the following. For 30 years and even more before the outbreak of the troubles the vast majority of southerners with the primary exception of border counties and some historically Republican enclaves in places like Clare, Kerry and Dublin were happy to live with the consequences of the consequences of great violence commited by the “old IRA”. You cannot sit here and tell me the talking point has always been a distinction between actions of the romanticized “old IRA” and that of republicans during the troubles. With that being said there is the benefit of hiding behind history for people south of the border when they are not the ones who were born into a state that did not recognize them or even want them. It is incredibly patronizing and insulting for posh dubliners like tubridy to try to lecture men like adams on the historical difference and somehow insinuate his actions were not legitimate or worse than actions committed by republicans of the “old IRA”
@@paul479 I don't think it's a matter of the "old IRA" (not too different to the "same old IRA" IMO) or otherwise... I said I think most people didn't want barbaric acts committed in their name. I stand by that.
@@paul479 I didn't say that was my view. And I didn't give a detailed, nor a nuanced answer, which is what that needs. I don't agree Britain should still rule any of Ireland. Merely on the principle, it's already offered independence back to, and ceded control of, many other former territories. However, I have family, as I said on both sides who have spent their lives long before I was born, wishing for the violence to just stop. Some don't speak to one another because some say 'it just doesn't matter anymore.' NOBODY listened to these people for the longest time, and still don't.
@@paul479 iIs it "mental gymnastics' to advocate for a peaceful solution, or to understand why generations who've watched people close to them be killed in the name of perpetual conflict? Really? We're not going to agree here.
Tubridy - well out of his depth, as soon as Gerry asked “why not” he put the brakes on. This is why the Late Late has gone to pot. Anyway back to Tommy Tiernan, now that’s a show I can get on board with.
The very reason I can’t stand tubridy you never see him attack or be so obnoxious with politicians from Fine Gael or that other shower fianna failures he just licks up to them,I’m glad he’s gone,if you want to be the hard hitting interviewer and I enjoy those be equally hard hitting with whoever your interviewing,tubridy did himself a disservice here
Tubridy is, was and has always been a prick. Full of his own importance, just another well paid intellectual prostitute. The IRA are blamed for everything that happened in the North but the worst atrocities were committed by the other side. Were the Shankill Butchers members of the IRA?
Tubridy must think the IRA of old charmed the British to the negotiating table with their delightful sense of humour. Will someone in RTE please inform him that it was true savage, ruthless bloodshed. It's also noteworthy the grilling he gives Adams here, in comparison to the softball questions he offered Bob Geldof recently, when Geldof was deriding the country, the rising and the sacrifice of it's leaders, in a bizarre non sensical rant.
@@Tereyoc From a militaristic point of view, I agree it was Mickey mouse and poorly planned. But the rising was was never about a military victory, it was about making a statement and inspiring a generation to follow suit. From that point of view, it achieved it's goal. To be fair to Pearse, he wasn't a military tactician, as Collins proved himself to be later on. Pearse was the spokesperson of the rising. Where he lacked in pragmatic tactics etc, he made up for in the vision that he had for the rising, for the Irish Republic, his influential speeches leading up to the rising, and the legacy that he left. He had the foresight to know that the rebels would be lambasted after the rising, but would be venerated after their deaths. He apparently whistled as he was led to be executed, knowing that what he'd planned would go according to script.
Mr. Adams was Right in his comparison to the 1916 Heroes. No one asked for British Colonialism in Ireland. No one asked for Partition in 1921 in Ireland. No one asked to be classed as Second Class Citizens in their own Land.
I was born in Northern Ireland Belfast my both parents and family went through hell. We had to leave to live in Australia. I never knew my language or culture this DOG the interviewer has no idea. I would live to shake Gerry Adams hand
I met him, bumped into him in NY. I was travelling n he was at same hotel n just passing by,It was a mutual kinda in passing handshake, nice n friendly. N on his way. This audience know their onions!
@@longmemory1620 Actually he spoke openly about that in an interview...when asked. He cleared up any misconceptions . I don't live in Ireland but I heard that. Lot of ppl knew. It was in family n AFAIK, the girl didn't want it broadcast....
He’s IRA he give the order to kill many even a mother was taking away never to be seen again for helping a wounded soldier absolute subhuman scum republican monster
Thank God for Gerry Adams and at least he took on the evil-minded plantators who tried to cleanse the catholic community completely out of their Country so their foreign evil ways could completely take over. So many cowards in sheep clothing in the south of our island who sold fear about our northern population, Ah we don't want them.
You do realise don’t you that the fight for a free Ireland didn’t just start with “The troubles “. The vast majority of the fighting against British imperialism over the centuries was done in the south & remember the 1916 Rising started in Dublin. Most Southerners would have had long distant relatives or family who fought for freedom of Ireland. It didn’t just happen up North. Branding people cowards shows a lack of respect & lack of knowledge of your own Irish history.
What a terrible interviewer Ryan Tuberty really is. I’m not the biggest fan of Gerry Adams but don’t ambush him for being an IRA member and then when faced with whether your grandfather was too react with the “oh those were different times” bollox
That was his grandad NOT him. If he himself was in the IRA Gerry might have had a point. Gerrys crap point was “I was born in a state that didn’t want me”. Oh really Gerry.. is that why Irishmen in their tens of thousands come to live and work in the UK? And what about those with a British identity born in the Republic?
It's true, maybe there was an alternative solution to the death and destruction that the Troubles caused. But there also could have been an alternative solution to the mistreatment and isolation that was imposed on Catholics living in Northern Ireland at the time.
Not all one way traffic. Looking forward to reading "Buried Lives: The Protestants of Southern Ireland". While Catholics have survived and thrived in NI, the same cannot be said for Protestants in the stifling and suffocating South.
@@cosmictimes the Protestants in Tipperary had and still have large estate lands, stately homes and are very much loved by locals in the surrounding villages and towns, people seem to forget that the Irish flag represents peace & friendship between Catholic & Protestant. And although the Catholic church tried to turn the people against our Protestant cousins, most of the time they failed. Eventually Catholic would marry Protestant, they worked , socialized and enjoyed sports together. My family is of Anglo Irish Aristocracy, Protestant married to Catholics, very much proud of our part in the 1798 Rebellion for Irish freedom, as well has our involvement in Tipperary IRB .. There was some pockets of sectarianism in the south, but nothing in comparison to the British controlled Sectarian attacks on the nationalists in the occupied 6 counties. If only people knew how much the Aristocracy on the island of Ireland, loved Ireland, the people of Ireland and Irish culture, and also how many of us offered assistance and joined the resistance for a better free Ireland.
@@instigatorobearga Catholics have done far better out of the UK then Protestants have done out of the Republic. The two states aren’t even comparable.
RTE is a disgraceful biased mouth piece for FFG, Ryan is coming as very unprofessional as an interviewer,, how ever Gerry is more than capable for that glib clown.
jonoessex: Simple answer is support. The fact that Sinn Fein constantly seem to rise amongst nationalists (including a rise in the republic) whereas the dissidents can't get a political vehicle to start is worthy of another discussion. The people of Ireland, Northern Ireland especially, are tired of violence and this is all dissidents seem capable of offering.
@@eamonryan8738 So the difference was that the PIRA's violence had support amongst the Irish population but the dissidents don't. Just because PIRA violence had support doesn't mean it was right and just because dissidents don't have support doesn't mean their violence is wrong.
@@conorfields506 The British government listened to these "abused people" and reformed society to be fair to them so there was no need to "fight back".
When a people is oppressed and brutalised by an invading army . They will fight back . Simply because. This is our country. Our culture . Our way of living . How we bring our children up in our culture. The things in our culture that matter to us . Our education , our Gaelic xports . Our family . Why should we allow another country to impose their laws on us . We dont impose our laws on any country .
As someone from near Dundalk and having my family come from down Fermanagh and Donegal Ino exactly the hardships nationalists went through. A downright disgrace that our government now won’t look out for the Irish In the north here. The media will protect the agenda of a split Ireland as long as they can and I myself don’t wanna see it go back to conflict. But it will, no doubt about it
Righter of two wrongs. Doesn't matter if you have blood on your hands Gerry. All soldiers do. Wash it off and carry on. That is the christian way. Righteous and pure. Doing god's work. Not to say I agree with war but an armed struggle is the only way when diplomacy fails and leaves you as a third class citizen in you're rightful country. If they can't be fair then bludgeon them to bits on their knees and a righteous war is better than an unfair peace. Fight for your equality because all men are created equal according to god and when it's all over we can forget about the oppressors and say we bloodied their nose and buckled their backs
If Tubridy was wondering when Adams would bring up the question of his Grandad, he should maybe have invested a few minutes in thinking of an answer to it. Though I can't help but think Gerry's grandson might one day be trying to answer the same question... Republican legitimism is a hard loop to break out of...
The sad reality is this .. the cast majority of people in the south had little or no idea of the true scale of suffering that people in the North endured on a daily basis ..
Why does the interviewer say the situations are incomparable? In terms of the methods used, or the goal? were most southern irish against the Provisional IRA? I'm not british or irish, so I don't know so much about the history of the area
Sinn Féin are the biggest political party in all of Ireland's 32 counties nowadays it shows the Provisional I.R.A had underlying support throughout the troubles and there's no difference between the old I.R.A and the Provisional I.R.A just the same objectives in different decades in the 20th century. Tiocfaidh ár lá.
Just so you know, nobody but people in the UK call Ireland "Southern Ireland". It is an insulting, demeaning, colonial phrase. We are not South of anything, we are the dominant land mass on the island, "Northern Ireland" is one corner of the island, 6 counties vs 26. We won a war against Britain and with that victory earned the right to name our country. The British are being wilfully ignorant by insisting on calling Ireland the south or southern Ireland.
Tubridity can't win with this argument because it has no substance to it. Ive heard it so many times from people south of the border that there was a 'good, old IRA' and an evil 'northern c1970s-80s. If they actually went and learned their own history they would see how similar the 'old IRA' was to the provisionals of the 70 & 80s. When you read the history (as I have and Tubridity has not) it is the similarity between the tactics of the 1920's and the 1970'/80s IRA that really struck me. Also when Ryan exclaims 'that was a different time' it was only 50 years before the provisional IRA started. We are not talking about 1000s of years that had elapsed.
@jackietreehorn5561 indeed they did. The main distinction is the provisionals used bomb much more often. However, the similarities in tactics are strikingly similar when you compare the two eras. What is astounding is how many Irish people are unaware of this.
I'm from the West of Ireland, not the 'south'. The 'south' is cork, waterford, Kerry etc. There's no country called 'the south'. When people in England ask if I'm from Southern Ireland I say, no, I'm not...and explain why etc. On the discussion between Ryan and Gerry, I absolutely agree with the latter's comparison with the 1919/20 period.
The funniest part is Tubridy thought the audience were on his side but they could see right through his hypocrisy and applauded Adams instead.
yes but they are idiots ...i mean they watch the late late for fucks sake
Tubridy is a typical lefty. PC, PC RTE
@@cuchulainn792 no he isnt ...not in real life
@@silverkitty2503 I did hear he is a nice fella off screen. Its RTE so 😄
turbidy along with along with the rest in this quango of a station would need to learn the art of manners...and listen when people are talking...he know fuck all about the northern conflict so listen to those who have lived thru it.
Gerry Adams is Very down to Earth, Witty and Intelligent, ..........Tubridy is a Horrible Hypocrite...........
Ryan Tubridy then treated Ian Paisley with the utmost respect.
Ryan could give it out to Jerry, but when it's thrown back at Ryan.. He couldn't take it
The fact Tubridy's grandfather served in the IRA is nothing to do with him. He can't claim any credit for it either. Just like it wasn't Max Mosley's fault that his father Oswald was a Nazi-sympathising turd. Gerry Adams may or may not have a chequered past but he's definitely a part of Ireland's present and its near future. Talk about that rather than a period of Irish history most people want to move away from.
@@geoffpoole483 youre a turd
Ryan's in trouble now lol
@@geoffpoole483Maybe, but his explanation of the “difference” between the IRA back then and the late 20th century version wasn’t very good IMO. How were they different?
In this program, Gerry Adams made a very powerful statement “I was born into a state that didn’t want me”. A rejection by a country of a large minority always causes extreme violence, such as in the Balkans, Palestine and Northern Ireland.
So shooting innocent protestants was a great way to rid of the state? 😂😂
Protecting themselves from guilty protestants(UDA/UDR/UVF/RUC/LVF/MI5/MI6/SAS/B-SSPECIAL/Shankhill Butchers) and tens of thousands of psychotic brit soldiers including scrum PARAS who between the lot injured and killed thousands of Irish men women and children was perfectly reasonable.32EIRE
@@MALEXI10 you mean not turning the other cheek and fighting back???
@@Paintbomb7 how many innocent people did the security forces kill?? Since you know all the FACTS?
Ten of thousands and thousands of injured or killed? What planet are you on?
I'll always support our brothers and sisters up North. What they've been through was disgraceful. TAL.
And we'll support our brothers and sisters in the south😊
Exactly, I'm ashamed to say we had moved on and forgot,Brexit has been a blessing and I,like many will NEVER forget our own again #UI 💚
@@cookiehannah1 And the west and the east! I'm from the west and I hate being called a southerner.
Pragmatic1 Ultramagnetic ... NORTHERN IRELAND IS BRITISH🇬🇧
What we went thru was dowm to the IRA ffs. Hundreds of dead civilians 400 catholcs killed by provos . If you would have been supporting your brothers and sisters you d have been calling for an end to this deeply sectarian campaign.
Well handled by Gerry Adams.
Gerry Adams doing what he does best....schooling the ignorant and shaming the hypocrites....👍
No. Fooling people who wanted to be fooled.
pity he couldnt school himself and his brother about the raping of children
Check out your Royal Family 😉🇮🇪🍀🇮🇪
@@whitetroutchannelthe BBC has a lot of shit to answer for
@@whitetroutchannelnow that Jeffrey is up in court for child sex abuse will unionists stop making reference to gerry Adams' brother
Looking from outside, it is mind boggling to see how insensitive some leaders and people in the Republic were. They were so selfish and disconnected from to the misery and struggle of their brothers in the north.
People should never forget the troubles that the British caused up in the North and all the hardships that they caused.
Yeah southern people I meet want nothing to do with NI in turn I have no great desire for United Ireland
Not everyone though
Don’t tar all of Britain with the same brush.
I think most people in Britain would have gladly given or even paid for N Ireland to unite with the Republic. Small problem was the majority wanted to remain part of the UK.
@@jonathanphillips5514 I'd agree with that most people on the UK mainland have no interest in NI
Looking at the history the DUP have alot to answer for and are causing problems yet again
When you read Irish history, the kinds of actions the IRA did in the past isn't much different to what they did in the latter part of the 20th century. During the Easter Rising, Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War there were killings by the IRA, the police, the military, spies, informers, sectarian killings and the British State through its army, its recruits in the Black and Tans, the RIC (Royal Irish Constabulary). The loyalist paramilitaries weren't born in the North, the UVF was created in 1914 and were heavily armed with help from British Conservatives. There were bombings, mine explosions, assassinations, interrogations, mass killings by ambush and by co-ordinated assassinations, hangings, sectarian killing mostly of Catholic Nationalists, homes burnt, internment, long jail sentences on suspect evidence. Anything done in the latter part of the 20th century had already been done in the first half of the century, this re-writing of history by Irish people in the Republic of Ireland is pitiful, its why they don't celebrate their independence very much and its why history of this period is so censored in Irish schools, radio and tv.
I agree mostly but how can we celebrate independence, do we have ¾ of a day..... we don't have full independence to celebrate properly yet
It’s because the south is still a semi colony
@@peterquaid2241 As if you care sitting in the republic anyway?
@@bornslippy9208 are gonna attempt to lecture me now after using the term "Republic"?? Literally no different to the orange men using Ulster🤦 It's Ireland, one word, that's it.... Amuse me anyway, what if I am living somewhere else, what would your point be?
And the actions the free state government took against the I R.A. during the civil war in the south were twice as bad as the actions the Brits took north of the border against the I.R.A. during the years of the troubles ..At least they were allowed bury their fallen comrades not like what happened in the free state.
Haha it's not often one sees Tubs flustered. Nice one Gerry...
Actually, I quite enjoyed Tubs not rolling over for and fawning over Mr Adams, it was quite refreshing.
@@neillstevenson5327 Name one high-profile interviewer you have seen fawning over Adams.
@@keeleyg1 I do recall Andrew Marr from the BBC, MR. Adams nemesis, fawning over him, so it was quite refreshing seeing Tubs one of his fellow countrymen with a proud Irish history, not falling for the groomed Mr Adams political speak. As for the comment “ I have no blood on my hands “ The McConville family may have something to say about that. But anyway, to be honest regardless of what side of the fence they were on they should all hang their heads in shame, the blood that was spilled because of their blinkered vision and thinking disgusts me. But you crack on Gareth perpetuating the myth that they were noble in their cause. 🤮
Though not likeable by many, Gerry Adams is absolutely correct in pointing out that the PIRA though often meandering were when active a continuation of the IRA's War of Independence 1919-1921. This is unpalatable to many, as were the actions of the USA/UVF/RUC/British Army, etc during what became known as the Troubles in Northern Ireland. However, Gerry Adams comes across as hypocritical when on one hand he makes the case for acceptance of the PIRA, and on the other hand denys his personal involvement/membership of the said PIRA.
@@neillstevenson5327 If Andrew Marr was Gerry Adams' nemesis, how could he "fawn' over him ? Do you understand what being somebody's nemesis means ?
I think people miss the most important part of that clip about Tubridys grandfather - he was anti treaty. Which means he probably and most likely would have supported the PIRA campaign.
100%
Whilst Gerry Adams was getting his hands dirty and fighting for freedom, little Ryan was in the front room of his upper middle class home playing with his train set and his sister's dolls.
Dirty blood spattered hands.
@@therespectedlex9794
Who are you talking about and don't forget what the British done up in the North.
@@jamesdoran6017 Northern Ireland? I thought you meant Warrington and the Arndale Centre.
Gerry Adams never got his hands dirty he just give the orders for someone else to get there hands dirty.
@@amysands8925 someone has to conduct the orcastra in order to get instraments to make noise so the people will listen🎶🎶🎶🎶
I just cant stand that RT, such a hypocrite. He is so currupt.
Jonathan Cooney Sure that's what they were founded to do. Censor dissenting voices, only tow the party line and "uphold public morality"
Tubirdy sitting there knowing he's getting way more pay then he should be getting. Now he's in London hiding. Guilty
Turbridy the West Brit caught out in his hypocrisy and the audience let him know.
I feel like Tubridy likes the fact that his grandfather was in the IRA cause it makes him feel important
I never want to hear from Ryan Tubridy.
I read with interest the biography of Bobby Sands. He simply wanted to do his job in a coach building company, no interest in politics. He was hounded out by Unionist employees, threatened at gunpoint. It's hardly surprising that people start to fight back.
Dosnt ring true he was pawn of ira
@@joprocter4573what doesnt ring true specifically ? Its already well documentated that Sands' was one of many Catholic families threatened by loyalists to leave rathcoole. He was also stabbed in a sectarian assault as a teenager.
So what they other guy said rings very true
@@joprocter4573 he was friendly with Raymond mccord
Adams makes a fair point here and even the host knows it so he tries to shut down discussion "I'm not going to get into a political discussion....." lol ...you've got a politician on your show who you have invited.
Tubridy is a disgrace if I was in his position I would cherish what his grandfather done for our country
agree 100%,would be anti treaty myself but michael collins was right
Collins was king. He brought the British to their knees and typical Irish we killed him.
This conversation would not be happening if the treaty gave up us in the north to pick up the pieces of partition
He is reasonable to point out a difference in era and that then was not part of Adams butchery on people of NI.
@@joprocter4573 sure Carson was a dub and founding father of loyalism....statue of a free stater outside stormont lol
Ryan asking the tough questions to the real FF/FG opposition so FF or FG can regain power and give this clown more pay rises while people across the 26 counties suffer
Tubridy is emblematic of southern partitionist opinion. My grandfather was also in the IRA. Not the 'old' IRA - no such entity existed. I am deeply ashamed of how we in the south abandoned our northern brethren to the loyalist hoodlums in the north. As was my grandfather. A large measure of blame attaches to those in the south who looked the other way when nationalists in the north looked here for help. When they turned their back on them the nationalist community had nowhere else to go when violence was instigated by the loyalists against their peaceful protests for human rights. Remember - the first RUC man to be murdered in the troubles was murdered by loyalists. To sneer at the people of the north who defended themselves because we wouldn't defend them is a double insult - especially coming from one who sat in his Dublin home in comfort as nationalists less than a hundred miles away underwent multiple forms of discrimination and intimidation.
most sense on this I have read fair play
Why do you call Ireland the south? We are not south of anything. You are using British terminology to describe our country.
Just because people in Dublin are not hurling petrol bombs at British soldiers does not mean we do not want a United Ireland. We built a strong economy and country while the UK government abandoned NI to rot. Ireland is growing in attractiveness every day compared to remaining with the UK.
And do you know why?
Chuck Feeney.
A united island will be thanks to him.
Republicans turned their backs on them when they decided to leave the UK. Sinn Fein signed the North away. And now Ireland as been partitioned for over 100 years.
Can you imagine a smug little French boy interviewer asking a leader of the French Resistance, "Do you regret having blood on your hands?
It was only a very differnet time because Ryan didnt live through the troubles. Gerry did.
Tubrity is a real west brit like the rest of his ilk in rte
Actually, you are right. Byrne, did the same thing, refused to shake Gerry's hand, and yet he nearly kissed the feet of Stone, a protestant terrorist, who really did have blood on his hands.
Gerry pointed out Ryan tubridys hypocrisy and exposed his lack of culture n knowledge while he was at it!
It was pointed out in a different era
Ryan sums up the media's and south county Dublin view of people in the north. Very sad to see Irish people like this .
Tubridy.west brit.
The last point in the video where Gerry makes the point “I was born into a state where people of an National mind were abandoned” really hits souther twits like tubridy and others deep. Many southerners who turned away from what was happening in the north would have rather ignored the fact that great violence was committed on behalf of them and were willing to live a life of relative comfort after partition while the north was subject to abject discrimination.
That's all well and good but by that, are you saying those people did or didn't want violence committed on their behalf?
I'll die on the hill all day long (and my mother's family originate in Dublin's Liberties, my father's in west Belfast) that says the great majority of Irish people in the south DIDN'T want to have those dreadful acts committed in their name by anybody; their own much closer to home or by people in the north.
So, let's not denigrate southerners as being "ungrateful", as if they should feel any other way than they do, which is tired of the violence and the all the conditions which come with it (yes, even in sympathy with those in the north). You can do that while holding and making the legitimate case for Irish independence. Goodness me.
@@MatthewCyUK my overall point is the following. For 30 years and even more before the outbreak of the troubles the vast majority of southerners with the primary exception of border counties and some historically Republican enclaves in places like Clare, Kerry and Dublin were happy to live with the consequences of the consequences of great violence commited by the “old IRA”. You cannot sit here and tell me the talking point has always been a distinction between actions of the romanticized “old IRA” and that of republicans during the troubles. With that being said there is the benefit of hiding behind history for people south of the border when they are not the ones who were born into a state that did not recognize them or even want them.
It is incredibly patronizing and insulting for posh dubliners like tubridy to try to lecture men like adams on the historical difference and somehow insinuate his actions were not legitimate or worse than actions committed by republicans of the “old IRA”
@@paul479 I don't think it's a matter of the "old IRA" (not too different to the "same old IRA" IMO) or otherwise... I said I think most people didn't want barbaric acts committed in their name.
I stand by that.
@@paul479 I didn't say that was my view. And I didn't give a detailed, nor a nuanced answer, which is what that needs.
I don't agree Britain should still rule any of Ireland. Merely on the principle, it's already offered independence back to, and ceded control of, many other former territories.
However, I have family, as I said on both sides who have spent their lives long before I was born, wishing for the violence to just stop. Some don't speak to one another because some say 'it just doesn't matter anymore.'
NOBODY listened to these people for the longest time, and still don't.
@@paul479 iIs it "mental gymnastics' to advocate for a peaceful solution, or to understand why generations who've watched people close to them be killed in the name of perpetual conflict? Really?
We're not going to agree here.
Privilage meets struggle
Tubridy - well out of his depth, as soon as Gerry asked “why not” he put the brakes on. This is why the Late Late has gone to pot. Anyway back to Tommy Tiernan, now that’s a show I can get on board with.
Wow ...I've never seen someone back pedal so fast in my life.
Gerry will always be remembered as a true republican and someone who had great courage to do the things he done for the people of Ireland.
The very reason I can’t stand tubridy you never see him attack or be so obnoxious with politicians from Fine Gael or that other shower fianna failures he just licks up to them,I’m glad he’s gone,if you want to be the hard hitting interviewer and I enjoy those be equally hard hitting with whoever your interviewing,tubridy did himself a disservice here
Tubridy is, was and has always been a prick. Full of his own importance, just another well paid intellectual prostitute. The IRA are blamed for everything that happened in the North but the worst atrocities were committed by the other side. Were the Shankill Butchers members of the IRA?
Gerry Adams a hero of the land of Ireland
covering up child abuse by his own brother? youve strange heroes by the way adams is a jew agent
Turb is more British than the brits themselves
This hypocrisy is absolutely daft
Tubridy must think the IRA of old charmed the British to the negotiating table with their delightful sense of humour. Will someone in RTE please inform him that it was true savage, ruthless bloodshed.
It's also noteworthy the grilling he gives Adams here, in comparison to the softball questions he offered Bob Geldof recently, when Geldof was deriding the country, the rising and the sacrifice of it's leaders, in a bizarre non sensical rant.
They had a mandate from 1918 election. The shower during the troubles did not. The SDLP was bigger than séin féin.
@@Tereyoc What mandate did the Easter Rising leaders have?
@@eamonnmaccionnaith5761 none and it was a mickey mouse operation. Collins said if pearse had lived he would never followed I'm anywhere again.
@@Tereyoc From a militaristic point of view, I agree it was Mickey mouse and poorly planned. But the rising was was never about a military victory, it was about making a statement and inspiring a generation to follow suit. From that point of view, it achieved it's goal. To be fair to Pearse, he wasn't a military tactician, as Collins proved himself to be later on. Pearse was the spokesperson of the rising. Where he lacked in pragmatic tactics etc, he made up for in the vision that he had for the rising, for the Irish Republic, his influential speeches leading up to the rising, and the legacy that he left. He had the foresight to know that the rebels would be lambasted after the rising, but would be venerated after their deaths. He apparently whistled as he was led to be executed, knowing that what he'd planned would go according to script.
I do believe he's ashamed of his grandfather. Fuckin wanker. Every time he comes on the TV I turn him off.
Tubridy doesn't stand a chamce against the most unshakable person born in Eire.
Used to be a big Gerry Adams fan growing up and now see him as a man helping to keep Ireland in the so called UK but he is 100% spot on here.
From 30 secs on absolute priceless.. 😂🇮🇪💚
Adams does put the guy firmly back in his Free State box.
Mr. Adams was Right in his comparison to the 1916 Heroes.
No one asked for British Colonialism in Ireland.
No one asked for Partition in 1921 in Ireland.
No one asked to be classed as Second Class Citizens in their own Land.
Fair play Gerry , Ryan is an embarrassment to Irish culture
I noticed that the down unders are ever so judgmental and pious. Did the republic come into existence free from violence?
Ireland is unique among countries that most of its country doesn't seem to recognise there was a war in the country.
I was born in Northern Ireland Belfast my both parents and family went through hell. We had to leave to live in Australia. I never knew my language or culture this DOG the interviewer has no idea. I would live to shake Gerry Adams hand
wake up Siobhan, Gerry Adams covered up sexual abuse including the rape of his own niece
I met him, bumped into him in NY. I was travelling n he was at same hotel n just passing by,It was a mutual kinda in passing handshake, nice n friendly. N on his way.
This audience know their onions!
@@longmemory1620 Actually he spoke openly about that in an interview...when asked.
He cleared up any misconceptions . I don't live in Ireland but I heard that. Lot of ppl knew. It was in family n AFAIK, the girl didn't want it broadcast....
If you moved to the other side of the world I would suggest you have no idea. Lived through the troubles the man is no saint
He’s IRA he give the order to kill many even a mother was taking away never to be seen again for helping a wounded soldier absolute subhuman scum republican monster
Thank God for Gerry Adams and at least he took on the evil-minded plantators who tried to cleanse the catholic community completely out of their Country so their foreign evil ways could completely take over. So many cowards in sheep clothing in the south of our island who sold fear about our northern population, Ah we don't want them.
What are you talking about, you loon
You do realise don’t you that the fight for a free Ireland didn’t just start with “The troubles “. The vast majority of the fighting against British imperialism over the centuries was done in the south & remember the 1916 Rising started in Dublin. Most Southerners would have had long distant relatives or family who fought for freedom of Ireland. It didn’t just happen up North. Branding people cowards shows a lack of respect & lack of knowledge of your own Irish history.
He put Ryan in his place their.
Tubridy is a dreadful presenter imo. Always so biased and seldom impartial. On big RTE money too. Adams was spot on in this occasion
Turbidy going toe to toe with Gerry. Turbidy is a puppet to a master who uses him ungrateful.
Ryan is a first class knob… up the six counties
Tubridys grandad was a member of the ira
What a terrible interviewer Ryan Tuberty really is. I’m not the biggest fan of Gerry Adams but don’t ambush him for being an IRA member and then when faced with whether your grandfather was too react with the “oh those were different times” bollox
That was his grandad NOT him. If he himself was in the IRA Gerry might have had a point. Gerrys crap point was “I was born in a state that didn’t want me”. Oh really Gerry.. is that why Irishmen in their tens of thousands come to live and work in the UK? And what about those with a British identity born in the Republic?
Tubridy just doesn't understand the North
Not a shinner, SDLP voter, but Gerry certainly has valid points
This interviewer sounds like he trained with the BBC and clearly has no knowledge of his own country's history despite his grandad. Muppet.
I don’t like Gerry Adams at all but he handled this incredibly well and I respect him for his composure and calmness.
Tubridy true colours shown in court case recently! Hypocrite and sleaze
now mr Tubirday we know what you were really like
It's true, maybe there was an alternative solution to the death and destruction that the Troubles caused. But there also could have been an alternative solution to the mistreatment and isolation that was imposed on Catholics living in Northern Ireland at the time.
Not all one way traffic. Looking forward to reading "Buried Lives: The Protestants of Southern Ireland". While Catholics have survived and thrived in NI, the same cannot be said for Protestants in the stifling and suffocating South.
@@cosmictimes seriously no am from donegal and protestants are even allowed to march they also have decent jobs and big farms so fuck up you twat .
@@cosmictimes the Protestants in Tipperary had and still have large estate lands, stately homes and are very much loved by locals in the surrounding villages and towns, people seem to forget that the Irish flag represents peace & friendship between Catholic & Protestant. And although the Catholic church tried to turn the people against our Protestant cousins, most of the time they failed. Eventually Catholic would marry Protestant, they worked , socialized and enjoyed sports together. My family is of Anglo Irish Aristocracy, Protestant married to Catholics, very much proud of our part in the 1798 Rebellion for Irish freedom, as well has our involvement in Tipperary IRB .. There was some pockets of sectarianism in the south, but nothing in comparison to the British controlled Sectarian attacks on the nationalists in the occupied 6 counties. If only people knew how much the Aristocracy on the island of Ireland, loved Ireland, the people of Ireland and Irish culture, and also how many of us offered assistance and joined the resistance for a better free Ireland.
@@instigatorobearga Catholics have done far better out of the UK then Protestants have done out of the Republic. The two states aren’t even comparable.
God I can't stand Tubridy
I thought you might bring that up 😂
It's a very good point from Gerry. However, i'm struggling to find these debates on You Tube that aren't 3 minute snap bites.
I’m not going to get into a political debate. Did tubbers just say that
RTE is a disgraceful biased mouth piece for FFG, Ryan is coming as very unprofessional as an interviewer,, how ever Gerry is more than capable for that glib clown.
I denounce Ryan tubridy as an Irishman.
Tubridy is the epitome of slimey.
Good man Gerry! Born into a state that abandoned ye! Tiocfaidh àr là!
Ryan Tubridy is a feminist, i think that pretty much tells you everything.
Turbidy should have asked Adams what the difference was between the dissidents he condemns and the Provos he was a leader of.
jonoessex:
Simple answer is support.
The fact that Sinn Fein constantly seem to rise amongst nationalists (including a rise in the republic) whereas the dissidents can't get a political vehicle to start is worthy of another discussion.
The people of Ireland, Northern Ireland especially, are tired of violence and this is all dissidents seem capable of offering.
Il tell u...
Systematically abuse a people and they will fight back ... sinn fein got elected as mps and r now pursuing peaceful methods
@@eamonryan8738 So the difference was that the PIRA's violence had support amongst the Irish population but the dissidents don't. Just because PIRA violence had support doesn't mean it was right and just because dissidents don't have support doesn't mean their violence is wrong.
@@conorfields506 The British government listened to these "abused people" and reformed society to be fair to them so there was no need to "fight back".
@@jonoessex You are deluded, dangerously deluded
He wouldn’t have to balls to put himself in harms way for any body. Different times?
Butter wouldn't melt
When a people is oppressed and brutalised by an invading army . They will fight back . Simply because. This is our country. Our culture . Our way of living . How we bring our children up in our culture. The things in our culture that matter to us . Our education , our Gaelic xports . Our family .
Why should we allow another country to impose their laws on us . We dont impose our laws on any country .
And when we fought back we were called terrorist
He will have so much blood on his hands it's a river.
Gerry Adams put tubs back in his place ,i wonder did tubs pay back the money he promised to pay back ???
Tubs wee posh lad
The audience didnt side with the worm
Dennis Rodman
Tubs is a pup
As someone from near Dundalk and having my family come from down Fermanagh and Donegal Ino exactly the hardships nationalists went through. A downright disgrace that our government now won’t look out for the Irish In the north here. The media will protect the agenda of a split Ireland as long as they can and I myself don’t wanna see it go back to conflict. But it will, no doubt about it
Wrong. You're speaking about a different country and have never lived there mate.
Love u gerry u are 2 wide for him we send our love straight 2 u from jim y and provo
Go on our Jerry 🇮🇪
Not so glib now Ryan? Enjoy your permanent retirement.
Righter of two wrongs. Doesn't matter if you have blood on your hands Gerry. All soldiers do. Wash it off and carry on. That is the christian way. Righteous and pure. Doing god's work. Not to say I agree with war but an armed struggle is the only way when diplomacy fails and leaves you as a third class citizen in you're rightful country. If they can't be fair then bludgeon them to bits on their knees and a righteous war is better than an unfair peace. Fight for your equality because all men are created equal according to god and when it's all over we can forget about the oppressors and say we bloodied their nose and buckled their backs
Go Gerry......... Get it up ya tubbers
A Saturday morning kids show would suite tubirdy better
Cryin ryan
Should I believe it? Gerry Adams being reasonable and assertive at the same time?
If Tubridy was wondering when Adams would bring up the question of his Grandad, he should maybe have invested a few minutes in thinking of an answer to it. Though I can't help but think Gerry's grandson might one day be trying to answer the same question... Republican legitimism is a hard loop to break out of...
Ryan’s soul leaves his body at 1:27
Gerrys a tout
The sad reality is this .. the cast majority of people in the south had little or no idea of the true scale of suffering that people in the North endured on a daily basis ..
Why does the interviewer say the situations are incomparable? In terms of the methods used, or the goal? were most southern irish against the Provisional IRA? I'm not british or irish, so I don't know so much about the history of the area
Sinn Féin are the biggest political party in all of Ireland's 32 counties nowadays it shows the Provisional I.R.A had underlying support throughout the troubles and there's no difference between the old I.R.A and the Provisional I.R.A just the same objectives in different decades in the 20th century. Tiocfaidh ár lá.
Just so you know, nobody but people in the UK call Ireland "Southern Ireland". It is an insulting, demeaning, colonial phrase. We are not South of anything, we are the dominant land mass on the island, "Northern Ireland" is one corner of the island, 6 counties vs 26. We won a war against Britain and with that victory earned the right to name our country. The British are being wilfully ignorant by insisting on calling Ireland the south or southern Ireland.
His grandfather made Union Jack flag that probably he wish he said what a turn coat IRA tactic was no different back then
Wat about INLA Ryan well,
I agree with Gerry Adams.
Tubridity can't win with this argument because it has no substance to it. Ive heard it so many times from people south of the border that there was a 'good, old IRA' and an evil 'northern c1970s-80s.
If they actually went and learned their own history they would see how similar the 'old IRA' was to the provisionals of the 70 & 80s.
When you read the history (as I have and Tubridity has not) it is the similarity between the tactics of the 1920's and the 1970'/80s IRA that really struck me.
Also when Ryan exclaims 'that was a different time' it was only 50 years before the provisional IRA started. We are not talking about 1000s of years that had elapsed.
Old IRA used the same tactics
@jackietreehorn5561 indeed they did. The main distinction is the provisionals used bomb much more often. However, the similarities in tactics are strikingly similar when you compare the two eras.
What is astounding is how many Irish people are unaware of this.
Tubridy , pat and Gabo same west Brit crap how many have been up the north,feck to scared
Tubs was trying to show off
Adam’s had to fight for survival
I'm from the West of Ireland, not the 'south'. The 'south' is cork, waterford, Kerry etc.
There's no country called 'the south'. When people in England ask if I'm from Southern Ireland I say, no, I'm not...and explain why etc.
On the discussion between Ryan and Gerry, I absolutely agree with the latter's comparison with the 1919/20 period.
I suffer from the same problem. Why they can't call Ireland Ireland is a mystery to me.