I have a 12" Dewalt compound miter saw in my garage/shop. I had a project at one of my rental properties in which I needed a chop saw, I did not want to lug my 12" saw and stand, so I purchased this one. It was fantastic for working onsite projects where I needed to make a few clean cuts. Is it a replacement for a shop/daily Chop saw, NO! But if you needed to make a few quick cuts or an extremely light, portable saw, this is it. I highly recommend it!
I've had one of these in the past and regrettably sold it, so have recently bought another one. I'm just a home DIY user so it doesn't really need to be as rugged as perhaps people who are taking it on site need it to be. I needed the cordless/battery version because I take it with me to my narrowboat with me which has limited power. And for that, and my uses, it's perfect. I find it to be accurate, lightweight, battery lasts for ages, it cuts well - with a decent blade, get no splintering. Not really bothered about some of the plastic parts - they held up perfectly fine, again it's not going to be knocked around as much as someone who throws it in the back of their van. I get what you're saying but for the job of cutting and it being mobile - it does both of these very well and I think it's worth every penny!
I’ve had one for about a year and a half now after moving from a 110v 305. I think you’ve been a little harsh in some areas, all the the parts have held up and the rattling guard arm is the same on the big dewalts and you do get more power if you stick a flexvolt on it, but I’ve found a few other issues in the time I’ve had mine. The main issue being the indent plate on mine is inaccurate, if I adjust the plate for 45° to be true 90° isn’t true and visa versa, the blade is too thin and deflects when cutting mitres with the saw tilted over and the 50mm cut depth catches me out quite often. But £300 odd for a saw that has seen me through easily over 100 second fixes and is still going strong is a bargain. And it’s so light. Having said that I’m thinking about getting a 250mm flexvolt
Great Video. Just to add from someone who has had this saw for around 2 years now. It is ideal if working in people's houses as the bigger Dewalt saws are far too big for these types of jobs. All the plastic clips you mentioned are still fine and have took the battering well. Downsides I have found:- 1. Has a handle on top, if you continue to carry it using that hand and not the 2 on the sides you are constantly having to reset the saw so the angles are what they are meant to be 2. The bevel adjustment on the back knackered pretty quickly so even when I tighten it now as tight as I can if you grab it you can alter the angle in mid cut and you can't get the part to fix it. 3. Yeah that shadow light thing I have never used.. pointless 4. Dust bag rips after a few months of using everyday.
I have to be honest. I haven't used the Milwaukee or seen it in action. But they are a very good brand. I'm sure it won't let you down. If you are willing to spend that sort of money. I bought the Mikita, which is a very similar price. Thanks for watching.
Hey, Tom, appreciate the honesty, as usual. I've had experience with this saw and can agree with your thoughts on it. That being said, if you can find one that hits the mark for you, they're worth having. The smaller ones prove their value with things like flooring and quick trim jobs and punch-out list stuff. The portablity is a godsend. This one does the job, but, like you said, it does sort of feel like a toy.
Greetings Tom, from ‘across the pond!’ Thumbs up on opening of the box alone! A pet peeve of mine, but so many people use scissors, or other weird stuff to cut with, and cut almost into the contents, but You did it up right Mate! 😃 I have owned the USA ‘20 Volt’ ( yes, it is really 18 Volts ) version of this saw for many years. I am sorry, as your saw looks to have been changed/ cheapened from what I have? Mine does not have plastic handles on the sides, but molded in aluminum ones, and the rear miter knob is very solid. Even the top handle looks different? I have to concur with a lot of your points, and I might share my ‘Pros/Cons’ with You and the Community, after having a ton of experience with the use of this ‘baby saw.’ Lightweight/ great portability/ fairly accurate cuts/ Standard ‘precision trim’ blade is hard to beat/ the ‘shadow line’ for line of sight ( see Con list next!). NOT brushless/ Slow wind down after cut/ Single bevel! / limited cross cut capacity/ lousy dust bag and dust collection/ fiddly blade change/ shadow line button hard to press, and the shadow line, whilst nice to have and accurate, hard to see, like Tom alluded to. In closing ( passes out coffee to everyone 😊 ) The top plastic handle finally broke, after many years of use. I usually carry it by the built in handles on each side. I have tried many blades, but come back to the DeWALT blades designed for this saw. It is great for light trim work, but can handle occasional dimensional lumber/ timber. I recommend the XR 6.0 batteries, as the saw spins faster, and one can hear the difference! Even the FlexVolt batteries work, but not everyone is going to have them. Be careful not to raise up the head as it spins down, as it WILL send the off cut piece flying! I have requested and pray 🙄 that DeWalt updates this saw with a proper brushless motor, increase the cross cut capacity, and make it dual bevel, and maybe shave a little weight off it. My saw required the least amount of ‘tuning’ out of the box, compared to my other saws. Cheers !!!!!!!!!!!
Hi thank you for the comments. Nice to see my brothers across the pond enjoy my content to. As regards the DeWalt mitre saw I have heard before the quality is better over there which I do find strange why they give us the crap lol. Even so it still has short comings which you have highlighted and like you I hope they fix said problems. Anyway I do appreciate the message and thanks for watching
Most of the cordless mitre saws are around the same money. All I was saying about this one is its to expensive for the build quality. Personally, I would buy the makita one, but that's just me. Thanks for watching
@@TomMagicWoodworking Just picked one up one the ebay 20% off deal and picked one up for £284 and am happy with it. Would have loved to have got the american version, with the cast handles, but just couldn't find one in the UK, I know two tradesmen this version and they both love them. Excellent for laminate flooring and other trim jobs.
Your cons are spot on. A few modifactions I made: -I turned some knurled knobs on the lathe to replace the plastic ones -Made a new handle for the back cause its practically made out of cheese -Stripped and greased the guide rails, much better now -Replaced the blade i thought it was shite, splinters less I'll probably continue to modify it, you should'nt need too though for £300+. Its just about decent now (I mainly use it for small stuff, chopping firewood haha)
I would agree for £240 its not a bad saw but when I reviewed it was a lot more money. That's one of the main reasons I was not happy with it but at that price its good deal. Thanks for watching
Handrail for staircases is usually around 65mm across and that is the way its placed on the saw to cut the angle cuts. 50mm just isn't deep enough for cutting handrails which rules this saw out for me.
Ive used one . Didnt like the safety switch on the handle . Bought the cordless Evolution instead as i previously had the corded version . Everything else is Dewalt .
That's funny as I have just done a video on the 18v Evolution mitre saw and came to the same conclusion it's a better saw for the money. Thanks for watching
Ive just bought this saw and am returning it. The cuts are wavy, i think due to the 1.6mm thin blade. My 18 year old bnq pro brand mitre saw is much more accurate. But much louder!
Hi, yes, this saw has a few problems. The cheap build is the biggest. As I'm sure you could tell by my review. I was not impressed with it either. Sorry you've got to return your saw but thanks for watching.
Ive had 1 of these for a couple years now and there is adjustment period from your 10 and 12 inch saws. I bought for casing doors at multiple sites through the day. Cutting with finish side down keeps tear out to a minimum. It also work well for coping in base moulding. I also had my doubts in the begining, but like it now for its portability. Once you figure out the geometry of it, it definately has its place. Thanks for the good content. See ya on the next one. Dont throw that thing out yet
I bought this model a month ago, for the construction of the facility, saws slowly , , a fully charged 5Amp /h POWER STACK battery for working with a 45* 195 board 15% humidity is enough for 50 cuts, a bad shadow cutting line, This saw can only be sawed with a dry bar max 50 * 50 or thin not wide boards.This product is a cheap marketing ploy of the company, made of the cheapest possible components, with far from the best performance
The USA version is a little different and better. No cheap plastic handles a better bevel knob for starters. Why is it they have given us the cheap crap version. I had one and ended up selling. The slide was took work badly and ended up moving away from dewalt. I feel dewalts quality is going backwards again.
I have a 12" Dewalt compound miter saw in my garage/shop. I had a project at one of my rental properties in which I needed a chop saw, I did not want to lug my 12" saw and stand, so I purchased this one. It was fantastic for working onsite projects where I needed to make a few clean cuts. Is it a replacement for a shop/daily Chop saw, NO! But if you needed to make a few quick cuts or an extremely light, portable saw, this is it. I highly recommend it!
I agree it's handy for a few cuts. My biggest complaint was how much Dewalt was charging for it . Thanks for watching
I've had one of these in the past and regrettably sold it, so have recently bought another one. I'm just a home DIY user so it doesn't really need to be as rugged as perhaps people who are taking it on site need it to be. I needed the cordless/battery version because I take it with me to my narrowboat with me which has limited power. And for that, and my uses, it's perfect. I find it to be accurate, lightweight, battery lasts for ages, it cuts well - with a decent blade, get no splintering.
Not really bothered about some of the plastic parts - they held up perfectly fine, again it's not going to be knocked around as much as someone who throws it in the back of their van.
I get what you're saying but for the job of cutting and it being mobile - it does both of these very well and I think it's worth every penny!
Would you recommend for the casual DIYer? I do fancy a Mitre Saw but don't want or need an £800 tool.
I’ve had one for about a year and a half now after moving from a 110v 305. I think you’ve been a little harsh in some areas, all the the parts have held up and the rattling guard arm is the same on the big dewalts and you do get more power if you stick a flexvolt on it, but I’ve found a few other issues in the time I’ve had mine. The main issue being the indent plate on mine is inaccurate, if I adjust the plate for 45° to be true 90° isn’t true and visa versa, the blade is too thin and deflects when cutting mitres with the saw tilted over and the 50mm cut depth catches me out quite often. But £300 odd for a saw that has seen me through easily over 100 second fixes and is still going strong is a bargain. And it’s so light. Having said that I’m thinking about getting a 250mm flexvolt
Great Video. Just to add from someone who has had this saw for around 2 years now.
It is ideal if working in people's houses as the bigger Dewalt saws are far too big for these types of jobs. All the plastic clips you mentioned are still fine and have took the battering well. Downsides I have found:-
1. Has a handle on top, if you continue to carry it using that hand and not the 2 on the sides you are constantly having to reset the saw so the angles are what they are meant to be
2. The bevel adjustment on the back knackered pretty quickly so even when I tighten it now as tight as I can if you grab it you can alter the angle in mid cut and you can't get the part to fix it.
3. Yeah that shadow light thing I have never used.. pointless
4. Dust bag rips after a few months of using everyday.
I'm glad you liked the video and have Confirmed some of my suspicions about that mitresaw. Thanks for watching
I'm looking at Milwaukee right now but it's $516 it does come with one 8amp battery. No charger .
I have to be honest. I haven't used the Milwaukee or seen it in action. But they are a very good brand. I'm sure it won't let you down. If you are willing to spend that sort of money. I bought the Mikita, which is a very similar price. Thanks for watching.
Had one for ages done loads of work been thrown in and out of van never had an issue with it or anything breaking off ..
Hey, Tom, appreciate the honesty, as usual. I've had experience with this saw and can agree with your thoughts on it.
That being said, if you can find one that hits the mark for you, they're worth having. The smaller ones prove their value with things like flooring and quick trim jobs and punch-out list stuff. The portablity is a godsend. This one does the job, but, like you said, it does sort of feel like a toy.
Hi yes that's Exactly how I felt about it. The Worst part was I really wanted to like it too. Thank you For watching
Greetings Tom, from ‘across the pond!’
Thumbs up on opening of the box alone! A pet peeve of mine, but so many people use scissors, or other weird stuff to cut with, and cut almost into the contents, but You did it up right Mate! 😃
I have owned the USA ‘20 Volt’ ( yes, it is really 18 Volts ) version of this saw for many years. I am sorry, as your saw looks to have been changed/ cheapened from what I have? Mine does not have plastic handles on the sides, but molded in aluminum ones, and the rear miter knob is very solid. Even the top handle looks different?
I have to concur with a lot of your points, and I might share my ‘Pros/Cons’ with You and the Community, after having a ton of experience with the use of this ‘baby saw.’
Lightweight/ great portability/ fairly accurate cuts/ Standard ‘precision trim’ blade is hard to beat/ the ‘shadow line’ for line of sight ( see Con list next!).
NOT brushless/ Slow wind down after cut/ Single bevel! / limited cross cut capacity/ lousy dust bag and dust collection/ fiddly blade change/ shadow line button hard to press, and the shadow line, whilst nice to have and accurate, hard to see, like Tom alluded to.
In closing ( passes out coffee to everyone 😊 )
The top plastic handle finally broke, after many years of use. I usually carry it by the built in handles on each side. I have tried many blades, but come back to the DeWALT blades designed for this saw. It is great for light trim work, but can handle occasional dimensional lumber/ timber. I recommend the XR 6.0 batteries, as the saw spins faster, and one can hear the difference! Even the FlexVolt batteries work, but not everyone is going to have them. Be careful not to raise up the head as it spins down, as it WILL send the off cut piece flying!
I have requested and pray 🙄 that DeWalt updates this saw with a proper brushless motor, increase the cross cut capacity, and make it dual bevel, and maybe shave a little weight off it. My saw required the least amount of ‘tuning’ out of the box, compared to my other saws. Cheers !!!!!!!!!!!
Hi thank you for the comments. Nice to see my brothers across the pond enjoy my content to. As regards the DeWalt mitre saw I have heard before the quality is better over there which I do find strange why they give us the crap lol. Even so it still has short comings which you have highlighted and like you I hope they fix said problems. Anyway I do appreciate the message and thanks for watching
Dewalt is pretty good, i love my DCS 727 in 54 V ( America 60V), he works very well.
Hi mate, just got mine today. Does the bevel stop at 45 or go all the way to 50? Cheers
I'm sorry I can't help with that. I was only given the saw for a short time and that was quite a while ago I no longer have access to it
A good alternative might be the 15 amp SKIL 10” sliding saw, with dual bevel & shadow light for msrp of $250 USA (often on sale for $200 - $220).
What cheap cordless one would you buy if you think this is too expensive
Most of the cordless mitre saws are around the same money. All I was saying about this one is its to expensive for the build quality. Personally, I would buy the makita one, but that's just me. Thanks for watching
@@TomMagicWoodworking thanks for the response have a great night
@TomMagicWoodworking Makita 190mm cordless is over £500. Definitely not worth it.
@@TomMagicWoodworking Just picked one up one the ebay 20% off deal and picked one up for £284 and am happy with it. Would have loved to have got the american version, with the cast handles, but just couldn't find one in the UK, I know two tradesmen this version and they both love them. Excellent for laminate flooring and other trim jobs.
£300 for a pull out mitre saw is a DIY saw... You can't expect it to last on site or be well made, it's a cheap light duty tool.
Your cons are spot on. A few modifactions I made:
-I turned some knurled knobs on the lathe to replace the plastic ones
-Made a new handle for the back cause its practically made out of cheese
-Stripped and greased the guide rails, much better now
-Replaced the blade i thought it was shite, splinters less
I'll probably continue to modify it, you should'nt need too though for £300+. Its just about decent now (I mainly use it for small stuff, chopping firewood haha)
Sounds like you have improved it alot the only question is why couldn't Dewalt do that well done on the improvements. Thanks for watching
Thanks for watching
Travis Perkins were selling these off for £240, been great so far.
I would agree for £240 its not a bad saw but when I reviewed it was a lot more money. That's one of the main reasons I was not happy with it but at that price its good deal. Thanks for watching
Another shortcoming is that it has a brushed motor rather than an unbrushed motor.
I did forget to mention that in the video but yes you are right. Thanks for watching
@@TomMagicWoodworking Thanks for the video. I just bought one of these saws. I have not even unboxed it, but I am going to send it back.
Sorry to hear that. I will say this is just my opinion there are some that like it but either way. Thanks for watching
@@jimivey6462 Don't, the chippy who built our garage loves his and recommended it.
Handrail for staircases is usually around 65mm across and that is the way its placed on the saw to cut the angle cuts. 50mm just isn't deep enough for cutting handrails which rules this saw out for me.
Yes that is a good point and one I forgot to Mention, thanks watching.
Ive used one . Didnt like the safety switch on the handle . Bought the cordless Evolution instead as i previously had the corded version . Everything else is Dewalt .
That's funny as I have just done a video on the 18v Evolution mitre saw and came to the same conclusion it's a better saw for the money. Thanks for watching
Ive just bought this saw and am returning it.
The cuts are wavy, i think due to the 1.6mm thin blade.
My 18 year old bnq pro brand mitre saw is much more accurate.
But much louder!
Hi, yes, this saw has a few problems. The cheap build is the biggest. As I'm sure you could tell by my review. I was not impressed with it either. Sorry you've got to return your saw but thanks for watching.
Ive had 1 of these for a couple years now and there is adjustment period from your 10 and 12 inch saws. I bought for casing doors at multiple sites through the day. Cutting with finish side down keeps tear out to a minimum. It also work well for coping in base moulding. I also had my doubts in the begining, but like it now for its portability. Once you figure out the geometry of it, it definately has its place. Thanks for the good content. See ya on the next one. Dont throw that thing out yet
Hay there. I'm glad you liked the video. As for throwing it out, it was not mine. A mate, let me have it for the review . Thanks for watching
loving them still selling brushed motor
I know you would think they would move with the times, lol. Thanks for watching
Just ordered one , eBay £300 with discount code 👍🏻🏴🙋🏼♂️
I'm sure it will serve you well. Thanks for watching
I bought this model a month ago, for the construction of the facility, saws slowly , , a fully charged 5Amp /h POWER STACK battery for working with a 45* 195 board 15% humidity is enough for 50 cuts, a bad shadow cutting line, This saw can only be sawed with a dry bar max 50 * 50 or thin not wide boards.This product is a cheap marketing ploy of the company, made of the cheapest possible components, with far from the best performance
well said pretty much what I thought when I looked the saw over. Thanks for watching
The USA version is a little different and better. No cheap plastic handles a better bevel knob for starters.
Why is it they have given us the cheap crap version.
I had one and ended up selling. The slide was took work badly and ended up moving away from dewalt. I feel dewalts quality is going backwards again.
I totally agree. This is mainly why I deal with a lot of makita. I feel the quality to be a lot better. Thanks, so watching.