What's My Line? - Andre Kostelanetz (Mar 7, 1954)
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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MYSTERY GUEST: Andre Kostelanetz
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Steve Allen, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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THIS is my ALL TIME favorite WML line-up; Dorothy Kilgallan, Steve Allen, Arlene Frances & Bennet Cerf…you can’t get any better than this! 😊
Agree, closely followed by Fred Allen, Martin Gabel. Tony Randall is fun, too.
@@sdkelmaruecan2907 yess, i forgot Tony! Ya know Johnny Carson would be on the panel of To Tell the Truth which was also a Goodson Todman game show at the same time and he was a riot. I don't know why we never saw him on WML?
Steve Allen was the best!❤😂
@@leannsherman6723 AGREED!!!
@@dejpsyd0421 He was at least once, I forget the date off hand, but think it was late 50s or early 60s, he was not as funny as some, but had a certain wit.
You have a gift for comedy...
---- I'm returning it in the morning. LOL
I very much liked the way Ms. Muselli approached the panel, extended her hand to prompt a handshake from each of them, and otherwise was nicely outgoing, not shy or timid, but friendly in her approach. Even if John Daly had to explain to her a couple of the humorous guesses by the panel, I think Ms. Muselli enjoyed herself. She was also ready to smile. The best sort of contestant in my view.
@gcjerryusc That gal/guy is rude all the time. Just about all his comments are jerk comments.
@@stanmaxkolbe Who and what are you talking about? You are here replying to the above comment regarding Mrs. Muselli, but somewhere along the line you went way off base.
Mr. Kostelanetz bowed slightly to the women when he shook their hands- such a gentleman, and very European! He had a very kind and intelligent face.
This is a hilarious episode! I have never laughed out loud more!
My Mother had some of Andre's Albums I use to listen to when I was a child. Strangely I really liked them being that I was so young. Also this program was done years before I was born.
André Kostelanetz's arrangements of "light" classical music are well worth listening to.
Johan Bengtsson Most of his albums are arranged by others...
I love all of his pre-1960 work, and all of it was arranged by him. I have many of his albums, and keep buying more. It is true that later on, his name was more of a brand.
He also changed styles in the 60s and 70s, which, personally, I'm not a fan of, but everything from the 1950s and prior I love. Quite a number of his 1950s albums contain 1940s recordings, too. Columbia, in anticipation of their developing LP product released in 1948 after much refinement, archived many classical and popular recordings on 16 inch 33 rpm transcription discs, and later on magnetic tape. The archives go back to about 1939 or 1940. Once their LP product was developed enough for production, they re-released many prior recordings that had originally been released on noisy 78s, on this clean, quiet, new LP format, often with excellent fidelity. Where Kostelanetz was concerned, a number of his 1950s albums contain some of these 1940s recordings mixed in with newer recordings.
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Exploding cigars... that's my grandfather for you... LoL
This episode featured the 35th foreign born MG and the 5th known regular guest from a foreign country.
“Good night boys” was said by Steve for the 18th time and by Arlene for the 9th time.
21:57 is an example of Steve’s ready wit that I enjoyed much more than the gambits.
Bennett Cerf alluded to a fine baseball player with the same last name as the second challenger. Johnny Kling was one of the best catchers in the major leagues in the early years of the 20th century. Brought up to the Chicago NL team at the end of the 1900 season, he began to see regular playing time the following year. He was the starting backstop for the Cubs in three straight World Series in 1906-08, the last two of them victories over the Detroit Tigers in 5 games (the 1908 victory being the Cubs last World Championship until 2016). He shared the catching duties with another fine catcher of the dead ball era of baseball, Jimmy Archer, in the Cubs 1910 World Series defeat at the hands of Connie Mack's Philadelphia A's.
Although not quite good enough to be elected to the Hall of Fame, the diminutive Kling (5'9½", 160 lbs.) was the premier defensive catcher of his era. His strong throwing limited the efforts of the great Ty Cobb to only two steals out of four attempts during the ten games of the 1907 and 1908 World Series. (Cobb averaged nearly a steal every other game at that time in his career.) He went from the Cubs to the Boston Braves in the middle of the 1911 season, becoming their player-manager for one season in 1912. He hit .317 that year in part-time action but his managerial efforts weren't as good as the Braves finished dead last in the National League. He spent his final year in the big leagues in Cincinnati, again in part-time action, hitting .273 (one point higher than his big league career average).
One of the first Jewish major league stars, Johnny Kling was also a champion billiards player during his baseball career and he invested $50,000 in a grand billiards emporium in his native Kansas City following the 1908 World Series. His related absence from the Cubs in the early part of the 1909 season may have cost his team the pennant when they finished second to the Pirates. Had they finished first that year, the Cubs would have had an NL record five straight pennants from 1906-10.
He also owned the minor league baseball team in KC from 1933-37, and he eliminated segregated seating at the team's home ballpark while he was owner. The challenger of the same last name was from a small town in Pennsylvania, far from Kansas City.
Lois Simmons that guy was my grandfather
You have a vast knowledge of baseball history!
For his "free guess", Cerf said "I think he's Johnny Kling's son." I didn't know that was a line of work.
@@roostero Bennett Cerf often uses his free guess to show off some tidbit of knowledge he possesses rather than to actually try to guess the occupation.
Johnny Kling was the battery mate in those 3 WS years of one of the great pitchers of all time: Hall of Fame pitcher Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown. Brown's nickname came from the fact that he had lost two fingers of his pitching hand in an accident. It is thought that the deformity of his hand allowed him to impart an unusual spin on the ball, increasing his effectiveness as a pitcher. In 1906-1908, he won 26, 20, and 29 games, respectively, with ERAs of 1.04, 1.39, and 1.47.
Hal Block would have had a heart attack seeing the first contestant. Can you imagine his reaction!!
He was too crude for the time and not crude enough for today's audiences. A man not of his time.
N@@bgdavenportHal was an adult with a teenager mindset 😊
@@robertholman8730 Unlike so many Americans, then, and now, Hal was not a hypocritical prudish person.
I think that was the longest fade out in the history of the show, with John Daly staring at the camera.
Andre Kostelanetz ranks along with Percy Faith, Ray Conniff, Mantovani and George Melachrino as one of the all-time greats of easy-listening music. (Incidentally, Andre, Ray & Percy all recorded for then-CBS subsidiary Columbia Records.)
I bet I played Percy Faiths A SUMMER PLACE one thousand times.❤️ So dreamy.
Hello Allen, may I add Hugo Montenegro and Henry Mancini to your list? I am sure others can add more wonderful talents to this list as well. Cheers to all!
@@rivaridge7211 Yes, you can add Hugo and Henry to the list! They were great too. So were the two German maestros, Bert Kampfert and James Last. We can also add the late, great Burt Bacharach.
I'd add, James Last, Bert Kaempfert, Ronald Binge, Hugo Winterhalter.
At 18:00, we’ve got a fun, classic example of John Daly’s long-winded explanations. The conference and John’s wordy explanation take a full minute! :D
And as much as Bennett Cerf might have appeared as a literary intellectual he always disliked John's wordy and long-winded explanations. "Can you boil this down to something understandable?".
@@brunozauhar1879 Bennett appreciated Daly's use of the language on the whole but, like Arlene and Dorothy and other panelists, he knew that some were genuinely descriptive while vague and others of John's explanations were designed to lead the panel down a garden path without being actually dishonest. So, at least a half dozen both regular and frequent panelists commented with some rue that they'd caused such obfuscations. Arlene and Dorothy would come right out and say to John he was trying to confuse them or lead them astray, as did Martin and Fred Allen. Bennett's introductions of Daly revealed that he admired how he handled his job as a misleading leader who kept the show moving and on time.
Many years ago, I saw the composer Arnold Franchetti introduce his friend, the composer Aaron Copland. Franchetti, who was completely bald, said that Copland "composes music for the longhair, the shorthair, and the no hair at all."
I enjoyed Mrs. Muselli's immediate and confident replies to the panelists' questions. The majority of contestants seem to either not understand if they should respond yes or no, or they require encouragement from Mr. Daly prior to answering.
That being said, it's easy for me to be a "Monday morning quarterback" many decades after these men and women faced live audiences, cameras aimed at them, panelists and Mr. Daly. I'm sure it was nerve-racking for them.
Ms. Muselli was a certified hottie, that's for sure.
I've noticed that alk the lady lawyers were very confident in themselves and didn't need much help. Guess in their profession they deal with all sorts of public exposure.
For some reason there seemed to be a communication problem between the panelists desk and the desk where the guest(s) and Mr. Daily sat. After watching a number of these episodes over the last several months, I have noticed that there was an ongoing problem with the guest clearly hearing what a panelist was asking of them. There was some kind of acoustics problem or poor amplification of the mics on the panelist desk with respect to how the panelists' voices did not clearly seem to get over to where the guest was sitting. It also could have been, in part, the guest being a bit nervous and preoccupied with the newness of this whole situation, too. But whatever the case was for this occasional confusion, nobody was at fault here. (And, too, as a viewing audience on our own screens now, I know I was able to hear everything each panelist said in any given program.)
The cigar guy brought back an incident/story that I remember. I worked with a guy who had a very heavy german accent, was also an alcoholic. So he was usually loaded, so to speak. I was complicit in getting his cigars loaded with cigarette loads. He lit one up and of course it exploded and he said, "Who put zee bombs in my cigars"? Have to think about that heavy accent! His father worked there and saw what happened and cracked up! We never got caught. :) What great fun those were!
hahaha, thanks for sharing!
The exploding cigar one was funny.
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I happen to like Bennett Cerf very much and I'm glad he's back as of this episode. But considering that his substitute on the panel the previous week was Wally Cox, I'm am really glad to see Bennett again! All the two of them had in common as panelists was a very similar style of eyeglasses.
I have NEVER heard Steve Allen Laugh like that (!) 😆😂🤣😂😂😂
Andre Kostelanetz was born Abram Naumovich Kostelyanetz in Saint Petersburg, Russia.
I thought he came from Schenectady!
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Well, how many famous conductors do they know? You'd think when they heard conductor, they'd start naming off some names.
Steve was a composer himself, so he was more "hip" to that sort of thing.
Good to see Arlene's no longer auditioning for the role as a pirate.
Did I NOT hear any of the usual wolf whistles for that beautiful first contestant?
@keithnaylor1981 Europeans concisidered whistling offensive 😊
Just one more thing...I never saw an exploding cigar in the UK but there was a thing sold in joke shops to make cigarettes burn wildly and with a horrible smell. The thing was like a pencil lead that you stuck into the tobacco at the lighting end of the cigarette. If you pushed it well in, you could delay the surprise and give yourself the alibi of being somewhere else when the cigarette began to fizzle and stink. As a boy I did that to one of my dad's Benson and Hedges cigarettes and he lit it at a business lunch. He wrote a letter of complaint to Benson and Hedges because I was too cowardly to say what I'd done - I thought the joke would happen at home. Luckily he had dumped the smelly cigarette, so the evidence against me had gone and I never did confess.
John Gee Hee hee hee! 😄
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That French woman was beautiful. I thought John Charles Daly would flip all the cards, but I guess it was too early in the show’s history for him to feel comfortable doing that.
Now, this is where I get a bit frusterated with the original WML. Here's we have someone with exploding cigars and he brought some with him and no demonstration. The Syndicated edition was excellent in having people demonstrate their line. Should have this occured 20 years later, Soupy and Arlene would have had exploding cigars in their mouths. What a scream to see Dottie with a cigar!
It was still live television. And I’d assume the panelists would have something in their contracts about potential danger.
It’s what’s my line not demonstrate my line
What a refreshing change from Wally Cox the previous episode
Steve Allen was the best. ❤
Envying the first guest's dress!
Hey, WML, just a heads-up that this video has some minor AV dropouts. I know you've asked for people to let you know, so you can put it in the description. :)
Thanks-- I'll add a note to the description.
Exploding cigars.......that's original.
Kostelanetz said that he didn't write for motion pictures, but he did. He probably just forgot.
I was curious as to which motion pictures he might have written for and couldn't find anything anywhere that said he did. However, he did arrange music from motion pictures for his orchestra to play on LP's which were popular at one time, in addition to other kinds of music he arranged for the same purpose. He was something of a competitor to Mantovani in that way -- arranging and conducting on "easy listening instrumental albums" from 1940-1980.
What were then known as long-playing 33 1/3 RPM albums from the 1950's and 60's by Kostelanetz, Mantovani, Percy Faith, Hugo Winterhalter, and others of that genre were prevalent in my dad's record library, just as Big Band 78 RPM records filled his record cabinets in the 1930's and 1940's. My dad had three hobbies: woodworking, electronics and listening to music. He combined them to build locally award winning hi fi sets that he entered in the hobby shows and audio shows in Manhattan during the 1950's.
(Somewhere in my brother's apartment, he has pictures of my mom holding me at age 2, looking at and pointing to Dad's handiwork. Big brother, in the pictures at the ripe old age of 7, has not used them to extort money out of me. He knows I'm too poor!)
Oh sure! Laugh at my poverty! I get no respect ... no respect at all. :-D
March 7, 1954. Two months before I was born. So, this is what was going on.
I'm puzzled by the 2nd contestant who made exploding cigars. There was a question 'Was it ever alive?' and he answered No, but surely his cigars had tobacco in them at least as a disguise for the exploding device? Tobacco is a leaf that grows and is therefore alive. Perhaps the trick cigar was made from paper like a firework but dyed to look like tobacco. We will never know because John Daly ushered him offstage before he could show his products.
It's frustrating to those of us with a scientific background, but the terms used on the show were fairly consistent: "grow" could apply to animal or vegetable topics, but they tended to reserve "alive" for animal life. At one point the contestant agreed that part of the product did grow, so I assume real tobacco was used in his cigars. A paper cigar would surely be discarded as fake before the fire reached the exploding part.
@mrwindermere123 WML NOT A TALK SHOW😅
Mrs. Muselli's second marriage was to Alan Jay Lerner (the lyricist); they evidently brought out the worst in each other, and divorced in 1965. She was the youngest French advocat/lawyer ever, at age 20, and practiced during WWII. She apparently died in 2012, but I can't find an obituary, which may be because I'm looking under the wrong name; she's got various variations on Micheline Musseli Pozzo di Borgo going on.
I can't, sadly, find anything on Mr. Kling.
Alan Jay Lerner was married to Micheline Muselli from 1957 to 1965. Lerner was married eight times during the period 1940-1986, and Ms. Muselli was his fourth wife. Six of his marriages were of shorter duration than his fourth marriage and he didn't wait long between wives. I note that his divorce from Ms. Muselli was particularly rancorous. Lerner had an amphetamine habit that lasted for a great many years and it is thought that being on "speed" didn't make him easy to live with, including the years of his fourth marriage. On the other hand, Ms. Muselli was extremely difficult herself according to friends of Lerner and even Lerner himself. It is odd that no biographical data is available for Micheline Muselli Pozzo di Borgo, apart from the fact that she was born on the island of Corsica in the Mediterranean, southeast of France and West of northern Italy. I note that her rather impressively large house on 1.4 acres in the Hollywood Hills went on the market in March 2013. I also found that a diamond Rivière Necklace by Van Cleef & Arpels was place for auction by Sotheby's in April 2013, with a value estimate of $125,000 to 175,000. Her house and grounds sold later in 2013 for $6.5 million (the asking price was $8.9 million). So she died some time prior to April 2013, but I have no idea when.
Alan Jay Lerner had a huge, albeit indirect, impact on my life. In the late 1950's, during the period when he was married to the first challenger, he was a major factor in the founding of the school that I attended from grades 6 to 12. The planning meetings for starting the school were often held in his home in Pomona (NY) and discussed during cocktail parties at his house (including the initial discussion) with fellow members of the theatre/journalist/artist groups that had clustered at South Mountain Road, Sneden's Landing, the Nyacks and other places in Rockland County.
The school was supposed to open in 1958-59, but survived that false start to open in 1959-60, comprised of grades 6-9 at the time and eventually adding a new class each year until the original 9th graders graduated as seniors in 1963 (Tyne Daly part of that first graduating class).
Fortunately, Micheline Muselli Lerner had not yet divorced the famed lyricist, and he had enough in his coffers to make substantial donations to the founding of the school, along with other local luminaries such as Helen Hayes, Burgess Meredith and John Houseman. Their donations helped the school move from a quaint old house near the Tappan Zee Bridge which served as temporary quarters for the first few years of the school to its present location, a former farm and eventually the residence and clinic of one of the few female doctors of the day: the Pitkin Farm in Congers (NY).
Lerner was also the school's first commencement speaker in the spring of 1963. His separation from Micheline and eventual divorce were just around the corner.
@@loissimmons6558 I have been reading and enjoying your comments on a number of these videos and I'm very impressed not only with your very interesting, lengthy and in-depth contributions, but also with your willingness to take the time and make the effort required to add such relevant and enriching historical context pertaining to the guests on the show, most of whom are deceased and long-forgotten. It is as if you pay tribute and respect to their lives which goes far beyond the superficial impressions that may be gleaned from their brief appearances on WML, and in doing so you add value to this wonderful project.
You seem like a very special and classy lady, and I'm certain that your friends consider themselves blessed to have you in their lives. Best regards.
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Thank you for your kind remarks about me. I am fortunate to have a lot of indirect connection to WML, first because the years of the original version are offset from my childhood by only two years: a very close match considering a 17 year run. Second, because I grew up in the NYC area so have memories of what living in the area was like. Third because my interests are eclectic and I've led an interesting life.. Fourth, because my junior/senior high school and college as well as my adult life has connected me to a number of celebrities.
I am even more fortunate to have a number of people in my life, whether clients, family or people I have met through my various interests who like me. In turn, I try to like everyone I meet. But I will admit that there are people in my life and others who comment on this WML channel who are annoyed with me: in real life because that's how some people are; on this channel because some people don't like the length of my posts.
@@loissimmons6558 You're very welcome, and thank you for your prompt reply and explanations. I'm very happy for you that you're lived such an interesting life and have many friends. You're truly blessed. As far as people who are annoyed with you, it comes with the territory of being a giving, passionate person. I'm a devout Christian so you can imagine how many people get annoyed with me...lol Anyway, I've read many of your posts, some quite long, and I have yet to read one that I find annoying. Blessings.
The panel seems to be really rude to the second contestant and I know they don't mean it.
Because he IS a rather plain looking fella, they think he MUST be either coal miner, professional dance instructor, dirt farmer (not just a farmer but a DIRT one) or the son of a ballplayer. I wish he were a neurosurgeon.
Show them, alright.
I notice a lot with this show that, while the panel has class as compared to what's seen on modern television (main reason why I got rid of my television--nothing but trash), this panel can be a bit pretentious, and perhaps unknowingly rude. They were, however, mostly from Manhattan, and people from New York, the city proper, tend to be pretentious and unknowingly rude in general. They tend to have the mindset that the world, or, at least this country, revolves around them. About the only people they perhaps almost feel equal to are maybe Chicagoans and those from Los Angeles, but they, too, are usually seen as inferior.
From a guy's perspective, Mrs. Muselli was an absolutely beautiful woman, inside and out. She would have made a great friend, indeed!
I was wondering about Charles Kling being a baseball player like Bennett Cerf mentioning the Cubs catcher during the dead ball era Johnny Kling.
I didn't know Andre K. Will have to google him. Enjoyed his segment though.
🤣 "How did I mean it?"
Andre Kostelanetz was handsome!
Yaay, Bennett is back
Interesting how
Alan Jay Lerners wikipedia does not mention any of the times he was married and divorced; including the fact of Miss, Micheline Mu Selli [first contestant] been his fourth wife. @t
I just looked and it names all 8, including this one.
What shame that Bennett's innocent fawning over the delightfully beautiful first contestant in 1954 would be corrupted into an almost criminal act by some in 2020.
@tinwoods Trumper? Agitated? You must wonder why because you don't know me.
You pen is quicker than your brain.
A criminal act by some but those people are both humourless and irrelevant and totally ignored by me.
So I wonder why Dorothy didn't get the cigar maker on the (very) first go around,?... 😐😐😐🤔😐😐🤔😐
CRIMINAL LAWYER
MAKES EXPLODING CIGARS
They always start with Steve Allen if they think the product is amusing or if it would get laughs. I've always wondered if the whole show was scripted or fixed right from the beginning.
It does make one wonder at times, especially when the correct answer just comes out of the blue.
@@janetmarletto6667They're all veterans who are very intuitive, especially Dorothy was a investigative reporter 😊
I didn't get that Bennet's joke about Debora Kerr. 1:38 Can anybody please explain?
Bennett's been gone for 5 shows, and, in that time, he has been replaced by Victor Borge (twice), David Wayne, Deborah Kerr, and Wally Cox. He jokingly said that he thought "Deborah Kerr looked most like me" because she was the best-looking of that group. Arlene as well alluded to the remark during the goodbyes when she addressed him as "Deborah", I noticed.
The exploding cigars had TNT in them?! Yikes!
No TNT😅
Kinda frustrating how the editor chopped pieces out of the videos. Censored? Think so....
@buddybates3247 Nothing was censored, it's 70 year old film that's deteriorating😢
Would fifty dollars buy dinner for four at a top restaurant in Manhattan in 1954? Or were the top joints even then over the top?
In 1954 I'm sure it would have.
Easily for 4 people I would say. At an upscale resturant.
$50 was a weeks pay or mortgage payment 😊
Thank Heaven's Bennet is back. Hopefully Wayne Cox won't be on again
They should have keep victor borge and wally cox and steve allan because they was funny and fired that boring stuffed shirt bennett cerf and also keep arlene and dorothy at least they was not boring
Agreed. Bennet's jokes were lame at best and lecherous at worst.
too many dropouts...
@stainless0521 This film is 70 years old and deteriorating be glad we can watch it at all😊
No disrespect intended to Steve Allen, but what am I looking at on top of his head? Maybe it's an affliction of late-night talk hosts. Both Conan and Letterman have had some bad hair days.
I was born in 1952, & it was the 'style' then for many young men to have their hair longer on top w/lots of hair grease in it. I think it made Steve look boyishly handsome.
At some point Steve started losing his hair and started wearing a piece. I don't know at what point that was.
Very pregnant Dorothy, at that time, looked great.
Dorothy was cute.