These Acti 9 boards are the mutts nuts, very cool little features in the board and generally very nice looking, we’ve been asked to install a few now for this reason 👌👍
Those whia digital drivers are brilliant have some myself. Huge fan. Also great to see Eddie on the channel. Anyone give any grief send them my way as Eddie is a champ!
Can I ask what the purpose of the double pole MCB is in this installation? I have never installed one and I'm wondering what scenarios would mandate their usage. Thanks
Pretty standard stuff there, decent job. I like that he actually mentions cable grouping inside the board, im sick of seeing bundles of cables tied together so tightly they nearly merge. Loosely spread is the way. Far to many Instagram electricians thinking that pretty means good!!...When in reality ( unless all those cables have been massively upsized ) are making a nice fire hazard.
Thanks for the comment. I've always done it really tight, I don't think in such a large panel the heating would matter. But your comment and the video has made me change my habit.
@@timdavison640 spot on trunking is the enemy with grouping especially horizontal runs. Not DBs. Total myth in many cases started by those who sit behind a desk.
Believe me on 3 years old housing development in London I carried out EICR and if I could show you the heat on neutral caused the colour changed where every 5 inches there is cable tie yes looks neat but as you say it is hazard for. Heat dissipation
I’ve recently retired after over forty years in the trade working mainly on industrial sites like that one. Why do people not identify the conductors especially in three phase boards ? I bet they tick the cable identification box on the test sheets.
I have been told cable ties are not allowed inside a board as per the NICEIC inspection? One of our guys had an NICEIC inspector actually make him cut the cable ties on site
I don’t see the need for three or four different torque screwdrivers for one DB total cack , why in. God’s name can’t they just have one or two torque settings and one torque screwdriver that covers those settings. My torque screwdriver covers 1Nm to 5.5 Nm so i’am pretty sure I would be covered for that DB . Absolute Madness this is nothing more than the Germans make a bank load of money of the back of the Uk . The world has gone positively gaga I’am telling you. Also I still hear that word required torque , it’s not required it is how ever the manufacturers recommendation nothing more. But tobe fair that is a nicely dressed DB , I have always used cable tie’s when dressing that type of Board but I never took the cables up then fold back down , I like that look a lot neater . Job well done 👍.when it comes to torque settings just dropped the word required. Fantastic video as always Gas 👍👍👍👍❤️
Nothing new really, nice that there's no tails on the rcbo's. Not sure why you need all those torque drivers when the setting cross each other, dread to think how much they cost, I did think they would beep when the level was reached and not click like a standard one with them being digital. Probably controversial bunching them together no matter how tight they are, but it's something I do, and I don't lose any sleep over it.
These are very expensive that have a very high-quality result personally in a commercial environment. I think that would probably be worth it because if you are in a commercial building that cost considerable amount anyway so the business is probably earning quite a bit.
Discussion - The distribution boards, switches and isolation and the like do not appear to be installed at a height which is maintainable and as such will require steps to perform simple maintenance and switching tasks. The average reach of a person standing on the floor is 2.1m. MOD design and Maintenance Guide 08 which is often used as a reference suggests 2.0 as a maximum height. Unless mitigated by a Designers Risk assessment, all maintenance and switching operations should be undertaken from a maintainable and accessible position, such as floor standing.
The board is very long as it’s got a entry box at the bottom with SPD and main switch plus and extension box on top. Under the board is the meter and service head. This is the only realistic option in this installation.
@@efixx it's very difficult to comment on whether this is the only reasonable installation in this case. I do know from the angles presented that the switching parts of this of these DBS is way too high for operation from a floor standing position. I do know from a designer point of view this is something that I see a lot off. I do know from a designer's point of view that often it is not the only reasonable alternative it is usually the most cost effective alternative for the contractor.
But why?! A single phase RCBO takes one slot, but we need 7 slots for a 3 phase? Why I ask you?! Why not have a 3 module, 3 phase RCBO?! It makes upgrading an older fully populated board impossible without.
Also spot on, Spoke to technical about this 7 ways for an RCBO doesn't help with retro fitting, something we all are going to have to do with the internal RCD's of most EV chargers not being compliant. I am sacking the Vigi off and using a separate enclosure with 4 pole RCD units. Piss poor from Schneider. although any type of 3 phase RCBO unit would have to be 4 pole to switch the neutral (live conductor) especially to meet requirements of 722. Rant over. 🙂
@@x0MARLOW0x got ya. Yeah it's got three phases and the conductors are in the right colour phase but how would.you record that on your test results? A three phase device for example would occupy 6L2, 6L3, 7L1, not sure I like that
@@michaeldavies1755 Me too, first time i've used a 3 phase vigi-unit and it doesn't sit right with me that mine sits over 11L2, 11L3 and 12L1. I think this is wrong and the product where it does fit in an isobar board isn't fit for purpose. I think Schneider just need to make a 3 phase RCBO that switches the neutral too (4 pole unit with dis. neutral). I have two EV chargers (zappi's that have type A's fitted) but I am looking at an upstream RCD for compliance and its 14 ways of a DB used. RUBBISH. Totally agree with your comment though. 🙂
You have to give credit where credit is due I’ve been in the Electrical game for over 20yrs and that’s a neat board that guy needs paying in gold bars
These Acti 9 boards are the mutts nuts, very cool little features in the board and generally very nice looking, we’ve been asked to install a few now for this reason 👌👍
I would always torque up connections. Lovely job with the board Eddy. You can't beat Schneider gear. Thanks for sharing.
Those whia digital drivers are brilliant have some myself. Huge fan.
Also great to see Eddie on the channel. Anyone give any grief send them my way as Eddie is a champ!
Thanks Mark 🦾💕🦾
Anyone give any grief and send them your way? Cringe 😬
@@rjb5667 thanks for sharing. Cringe....
@@rjb5667 great input thanks
Hi mark, they look indeed very beautifull. Maybe I got to order that one for work !
When's the SPD video coming out?
The problem with SPDs with TPN boards like these are that the earth bar is at the top, so keeping to the
Hi Guys, any idea when you will be uploading the stand alone video for the SPD, mentioned on Eddy's Board?
I am confused how the neutral is connected to the iso-bars for the double pole breaker for example?
Great video, did you ever release the standalone video of the SPD connection?
That's a very good tip for neatening up 3 phase distribution boards. I will use that.
4 sets of torque screwdrivers , this man is Serious , man don't mess around blud !
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Haha
Great video, really neat work! When will the video for the SPD be out??
Torque screwdrivers really are an essential piece of sparky kit, esp for industrial work.
80% of faults are down to loose wires.
Or incompetence, never use a torque and never had a problem
Can I ask what the purpose of the double pole MCB is in this installation? I have never installed one and I'm wondering what scenarios would mandate their usage. Thanks
That particular breaker is for a test house we are planning to build within our unit. The DP MCB will also serve as an isolator.
Great job. Iam also an electrician. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Would have been nice to see boot lace crimps and cable ferries used. Also think be better to slot board and trunking.
Pretty standard stuff there, decent job. I like that he actually mentions cable grouping inside the board, im sick of seeing bundles of cables tied together so tightly they nearly merge. Loosely spread is the way. Far to many Instagram electricians thinking that pretty means good!!...When in reality ( unless all those cables have been massively upsized ) are making a nice fire hazard.
Thanks for the comment. I've always done it really tight, I don't think in such a large panel the heating would matter. But your comment and the video has made me change my habit.
Plus on the installs cables are mostly stuffed into trunking creating a grouping factor not really any different to the db
@@timdavison640 spot on trunking is the enemy with grouping especially horizontal runs. Not DBs. Total myth in many cases started by those who sit behind a desk.
Believe me on 3 years old housing development in London I carried out EICR and if I could show you the heat on neutral caused the colour changed where every 5 inches there is cable tie yes looks neat but as you say it is hazard for. Heat dissipation
Unless the circuits in question are run close to max operating temp. I don’t see a problem with grouping inside a dis board
Interesting video and it just looks like the MCBs are in the wrong way round but they’re not.
Mechanic interlock must been closed booth when you join tow devices together because they are not join correctly
Such great kit.
Does anyone know if the stand alone video for the surge install ever came out. I can't seem to find it.
I’ve recently retired after over forty years in the trade working mainly on industrial sites like that one. Why do people not identify the conductors especially in three phase boards ? I bet they tick the cable identification box on the test sheets.
I have been told cable ties are not allowed inside a board as per the NICEIC inspection? One of our guys had an NICEIC inspector actually make him cut the cable ties on site
Use releasable cable ties, cost a penny more but easy when adding the inevitable “extras”
How does he handle Eddie currents? 😁
Where is the stand alone video link for the spd? Mentioned at 3.30??
Coming soon
@@efixx Are we there yet? :)
@@efixx almost ready? 😂
I don’t see the need for three or four different torque screwdrivers for one DB total cack , why in. God’s name can’t they just have one or two torque settings and one torque screwdriver that covers those settings.
My torque screwdriver covers 1Nm to 5.5 Nm so i’am pretty sure I would be covered for that DB . Absolute Madness this is nothing more than the Germans make a bank load of money of the back of the Uk . The world has gone positively gaga I’am telling you. Also I still hear that word required torque , it’s not required it is how ever the manufacturers recommendation nothing more. But tobe fair that is a nicely dressed DB , I have always used cable tie’s when dressing that type of Board but I never took the cables up then fold back down , I like that look a lot neater . Job well done 👍.when it comes to torque settings just dropped the word required.
Fantastic video as always Gas 👍👍👍👍❤️
Can’t see the M.E.T bolt installed or a main earth ??
Nothing new really, nice that there's no tails on the rcbo's. Not sure why you need all those torque drivers when the setting cross each other, dread to think how much they cost, I did think they would beep when the level was reached and not click like a standard one with them being digital.
Probably controversial bunching them together no matter how tight they are, but it's something I do, and I don't lose any sleep over it.
Why do you put a fuse on Neutral?
These are very expensive that have a very high-quality result personally in a commercial environment. I think that would probably be worth it because if you are in a commercial building that cost considerable amount anyway so the business is probably earning quite a bit.
why not just use a combined mcb/breaker instead of seperated ones?
oh good
Discussion - The distribution boards, switches and isolation and the like do not appear to be installed at a height which is maintainable and as such will require steps to perform simple maintenance and switching tasks. The average reach of a person standing on the floor is 2.1m. MOD design and Maintenance Guide 08 which is often used as a reference suggests 2.0 as a maximum height.
Unless mitigated by a Designers Risk assessment, all maintenance and switching operations should be undertaken from a maintainable and accessible position, such as floor standing.
The board is very long as it’s got a entry box at the bottom with SPD and main switch plus and extension box on top. Under the board is the meter and service head. This is the only realistic option in this installation.
@@efixx it's very difficult to comment on whether this is the only reasonable installation in this case. I do know from the angles presented that the switching parts of this of these DBS is way too high for operation from a floor standing position. I do know from a designer point of view this is something that I see a lot off. I do know from a designer's point of view that often it is not the only reasonable alternative it is usually the most cost effective alternative for the contractor.
But why?! A single phase RCBO takes one slot, but we need 7 slots for a 3 phase? Why I ask you?! Why not have a 3 module, 3 phase RCBO?! It makes upgrading an older fully populated board impossible without.
Also spot on, Spoke to technical about this 7 ways for an RCBO doesn't help with retro fitting, something we all are going to have to do with the internal RCD's of most EV chargers not being compliant. I am sacking the Vigi off and using a separate enclosure with 4 pole RCD units. Piss poor from Schneider. although any type of 3 phase RCBO unit would have to be 4 pole to switch the neutral (live conductor) especially to meet requirements of 722. Rant over. 🙂
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Strange that there are no core IDs
Where is SPD video please
BBG IN A STRANGE ORDER TO ME
Bgb?
@@x0MARLOW0x perhaps he means brown grey black
@@michaeldavies1755 the three pole with rcd is using l3 - l1 - l2 not l123 6.00 timestamp
@@x0MARLOW0x got ya. Yeah it's got three phases and the conductors are in the right colour phase but how would.you record that on your test results? A three phase device for example would occupy 6L2, 6L3, 7L1, not sure I like that
@@michaeldavies1755 Me too, first time i've used a 3 phase vigi-unit and it doesn't sit right with me that mine sits over 11L2, 11L3 and 12L1. I think this is wrong and the product where it does fit in an isobar board isn't fit for purpose. I think Schneider just need to make a 3 phase RCBO that switches the neutral too (4 pole unit with dis. neutral). I have two EV chargers (zappi's that have type A's fitted) but I am looking at an upstream RCD for compliance and its 14 ways of a DB used. RUBBISH. Totally agree with your comment though. 🙂
And the spd video......