The Cars The Star: DeLorean
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2012
- The Car's the Star was a BBC series hosted by Quentin Willson. In each episode, a biography of the car described by Willson was interspersed by interviews with the cars' owners. This episode covers the DeLorean DMC-12.
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Epilogue: This car has been in a 35-year beta test by thousands of capable and dedicated enthusiasts. Today-- you buy one with the sporty 5-speed, and light and airy gray leather interior, with the Stage II engine upgrade and upgraded suspension. You get the bits of this and that which have been re-engineered, including the entirely effective door struts with self-launching remote control keyless entry, and the result is... the car you always wished it were. 100%. It's fantastic and a complete dream come true. I'm sorry it landed poorly back in the 80s, but today it's totally ready for prime time.
i wish someone would do that with other old cars
I studied civil engineering at the NI Poly (as it was known at the time) and did a summer placement with McLaughlin and Harvey at the Delorean plant in Dunmurry there were 4 buildings. The two biggest were the body press and the assembly buildings, if memory serves. I checked every frigging bolt on the end of every frigging stanchion was in place, eigth per end plate, and nouts was tightened to two threads showing. Every frigging one for six months. I quit civil engineering. But in Belfast, we were gutted that the dream died.
So many things in this documentary are completely untrue. Couple examples since there is a limit on text: He wasn't fired, he resigned from GM. The financial agreement with the British Government was that they would give DeLorean the funding necessary to get the plant and production underway. Once that was done then with every car sold they would receive royalties, so in the years too come, they would get all their money back and make money in the end, not to mention creating 6000 jobs.
Its not a documentary ....Its the BBC's chief "dick-head" being nasty about yet another classic car.
Even how badly these cars were made or the absurdity of the story behind the company, it will still remain one of my all time favorite cars!
Sometimes in life, the wanting is better than the having.
I bet these were more reliable than a Land Rover or anything from British Leyland's.
instablaster...
@@jacobysean1055 what
Agreed😎
only watched this for the rare footage. But they went really out of their way to bash the car. I mean he was driving with the window switch popped way out... really? Obviously staged to prod the bad quality.
30+ years later, it's easy to criticize the DMC-12. But it's still a very unique car; and for that reason, I'm going to buy one.
This is an old video and true on many fronts like the point about the quality control was lacking at first in the production of the car but they actually got a lot better. I’ve had my car since the early 90’s and fixed all the known problems with the car. Now...after 36 years....the car runs great and is a blast to go places in. Other classic cars that I own take much more work to maintain while the Delorean always starts right up and feels like you’re in a more modern car and handles really well once you upgrade the suspension and lower back down to original height rather than the height they were transported to American with. All in all....not many people actually own one and if you know someone who has one...you’re a rare individual.
yep, america's ruels at the time IE suspension requirements, the crazy smog certs that bogged the engine down. Now that its a classic, putting in a stage 1 exhaust, modern struts and suspension, this car is truly something special. I have one and wont ever sell. This video has so many things wrong. LOL at the part he was fired from gm, he resigned. thier policy of planned obsolesce being one of the big reasons that and management.
Nice to hear. So much biased press but when you listen to him talk he makes so much sense.
@jemimallah Not at all. The PRV engine is a good engine and super reliable. When you start it at first it does this up and down thing then smooths out and purrs. It's not going to break any land speed records or win any races but still steals the show sitting next to a $500,000 Lamborghini.
Timeless design!! One of my favorites
This program is from 1999. Six years later John DeLorean was dead and twenty years later that film about him was actually made (Driven).
Jay Leno has said/---the cars problems could have been repaired with a few fixes
One of My Customers had one of those Cars.
The DeLorean is my dream car
If I owned a DeLorean I would only drive it from time to time.
Kenny Scott i see what you did there
Great vlog!!
A company called FLUX Power is now making DeLorean.Created in partnership with the DeLorean Motor Company. The DMC-12 EV runs on lithium batteries that can reach about 100 miles per charge, goes from 0 to 60 mph in roughly four seconds, and packs the electric equivalent of 250 horsepower.
Starting a sucessful car company is a huge undertaking, there are simply so many things that must be right, your car must be mechanical right, it must have reliability issues sorted, there are 16000 parts in the average car! there may be millions of cars on the road but there are not thousands of car companies, there is a reason for that, the logsitics of running a car company are staggering, even with everything computerised things must be right or else. established car companies understand these issues and have addressed them now.
De Lorean wasnt fired from GM he quit. Also as I understand it he himself wanted a mid engine design but it couldnt be done in the time allotment he had given to put the car into production.
The car could have been amazing had more time been out into the car and ironing out the glitches and lackluster engine
My thoughts exactly. Never mind all the negative hype,I still want one and I'm going to have one one day. I wish I could've met JZD!
Starting a successful car company is a huge undertaking, there are simply so many things that must be right, your car must be mechanically right, it must have reliability issues sorted, there are 16000 parts in the average car! there may be millions of cars on the road but there are not thousands of car companies, there is a reason for that, the logistics of running a car company are staggering, even with everything computerised things must be right or else. established car companies understand these issues and have addressed them by now. Delorean died in 2005, he was a risk taker but starting a car company, better to create an ultra premium brand which the buyers have no problems with money.
16:28 "There are probably a handful of people somewhere who still think the world is flat". Welcome to 2017 lol
As soon as he said that, I had to see if someone made this comment.
@@thesingleplayer2495 Me too.
Regardless of all the negativity, the incredible story behind them is just one of the reasons for the DeLorean's place in popular culture today, and I love mine!!!
I mean there's inaccuracies, and it's pretty unfair on DMC. Really not fair.
What kind of accuracies?
Name at least one of them, please? I'm curious.
@@CynicalBastard511 your name says it all
interesting dissection of DMC,from the man how gave us the GTO & Firebird both Pontiac products.
Fascinating.
believe it or not, the us and the uk don't have an extradition relationship, that's why julian assange feared that if he were to be extradited to the swedden, he would be extradited to the US, rather than directly to the US
Great documentary. There was some excellent music too.
Also, great footage from Belle Isle.
THX ALOT !!!
Sadly, Delorean Died before he could get his new company going.
I think Quentin's description of the car is highly exaggerated, 'you could throw a cat through the panel gaps', really Quentin? I think your presenting needs to be more constructive, and show more probity. Otherwise it just sounds like you're making things up without displaying physical evidence.
better than an allegro
Does anybody knows the name of the song that plays at 1:12? Thanks!!!
The gag over here in Ireland at the time was that he's terrible for sticking his business in other people's noses.
The drama that surrounds it is what gives it its edge over any other. Yes its just a car but so is a new Merc. But thats a bit like buying a fridge. If you want an appliance you buy the new Merc and no one cares. Buy a DMC though and anyone will say how they love it or hate it. Look at it like a tragic hero that tried to take on the wild beast but failed so completely and you see it as just a car but its had a hard life from day one. Its not trying to wow or amaze, it just wants to be loved.
7:40 LOVE THIS!!!
If lotus had built the engine it would have jumped through the air
So basically he ran the company as if he was still working at GM; where there would be hundreds of thousands of stack ranked corporation employee assets that would see his ‘product marketing dream from the ivory tower’ into production , disappearing during development and re-appearing at the introduction to take the credit 😂
He got 550.000.000 million pounds and employed 2600 people for 24 months. If the Northern Ireland government would have paid the workers for 24 months it would have been 8814 pounds per worker per month :-P
why wasn't he extradited if there was a warrant for his arrest?
16:27 A handful, indeed...
undoubtedly a clever guy, far more imagination tan was the norm in Detroit and a good engineer from what I have read. But it does seem that somewhere along the way he went, how shall I put this, bonkers.
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The car would have done better as the production was going well and quality issues were being straightened out. What sank the company was the economy of the US was falling hard by late 1981, and the country would be in a recession for several years. As it was, Chrysler barely survived the period without a massive loan from our government. The cars are cherished by the owners, and it's a fun example of something from the 80's. Yeah, the engine wasn't so great,but I checked them out when they first came to dealers,and I can't agree at all with this announcer's complaints.
TheYorkMan Put it this way, where I was living in California, it wasn't unusual to find people living out of their cars by early 1982. People didn't have money to be buying that car. But what I said was true, it was kind of a perfect storm of failure when it his the market. And I don't remember it being advertised as an American car, in fact it was told they were building it at a completely new factory in N. Ireland. If you want a DeLoeran, you can order a new one or restored to almost new old car, a US company bought the parts and rights to them and are making them to this day from NOS parts.
But the programme tells the story as though the car was just a front for fraud right from the start, that simply wasn't the truth.
In '81 Aston Martin was all but bankrupt as they've been on and off, Range Rover was suffering from the same poor quality as what was left of the British car industry, the Japanese were taking over the market and the wealthy had their choice of cars, at least what was in production. Now at the time Porsche was doing well, but that was it for high end cars outside of Rolls/Bentley. Jaguar was rebuilding themselves quite well since leaving leyland, too.
But still the fall in the economy was devastating for the auto industry. DeLorean wanted to build a car and had been working on it, just the actual economics of making what he originally wanted was too expensive, and the changes with designs and all the other crap that comes along with starting literally from the ground up made it impossible to build it at the price he originally wanted. Still, I think if the place could have stayed together another year, they could have fixed much of what was wrong and also got sales up. What happened with this car is far from rare in the industry, or in startups in general.
The fact Delorean personally transferred 17 million pounds to a Swiss bank account and embezzled other massive amounts of money to finance his rockstar lifestyle the company could have survived.
Fuck dude, you're right! I feel the same about his history and this great car! ^^
AlJeffersonA1 At least the thing looked decent. That was really the only thing going for it.
Do not blame the one and only......
What year did this come out?
+Robert Lee and all the studio filming was done at BigShots Studios in Pershore Worcestershire.
Isn't that the old top gear host
Not very accurate and very one-sided, but I guess if you don't do any research it makes for better television.
So is a Austin Allegro.
Really pity to see Muricas trying to defend DeLorean. 🤣😂
10:32 it's okay, Jeremy Clarkson, who is 6' 5", doesn't like this car
The guy ripped of many people but he was cleared for the drug bust using other peoples money . The video of the buy clearly shows him purchasing coke large amounts and their was audio . He screwed over the brits big time . The car itself was a great car with out the us restrictions on pollution restricting the power out put . Had they continued the car would have been powered by a v8 in later models .
One of the worst videos I have seen. Really bad journalism.
Just for the record John Delorean died in 2005. This was from 1994.
Kiinell i was born in 1994!!!!!:D
It couldn't have been, I didn't buy my first DeLorean until 1999 and I'm driving one of the cars thrashing around the Lotus test track! For info., 'Quentin Dickhead,' as he know in Delorean circles , killed off the "Cars the Star" series with his vitriolic spiteful reviews.
Love the "perfume on a pig" great document well worth watching 😁
1:04 great name. You probably spent years coming up with that name. . 🙄
Respect for jhon DeLorean
The biggest problem with the DeLorean DMC-12 was its engine. It was badly underpowered. DeLorean should have borrowed the engine from the Lotus Esprit Turbo instead of that gutless V6.
I think that engine was the worst engine ever made in history so slow and underpowered and noisy if I was John delorean I wouldn't have touched that engine with a barge pole cause it's a piece of crap lol
@@stratpluslover8391 The V6? Oh yes it was pathetically underpowered in Europe where it only developed 145 hp and even worse with the U.S emission catalytic converter where the power dropped to 130 hp. John Delorean considering a rotary engine from Citroen that developed only 105 hp, then he considered the Ford Cologne V6 that developed 109 hp and the early prototype was powered by the 86 hp engine of the Fiat X1/9.
I love the PRV engine for what it is. Yes the stock has 170hp but it was strangled down by the USA fuel emissions junk which brought it down to 130hp. Considering that PRV engine has been in many many cars over the 40 year life span including race cars. The Delorean almost become the worlds fastest production car because dmc was working on a twin turbo set up with the PRV and had a 0-60 in 5 seconds which beat a Ferrari 308 & Porsche 928. Vin 502 & vin 530 had the twin turbo prototypes which were developed by Legend Industries. Both are still around today. Also just an extra dose of what that engine is capable of the PRV powered car called the Peugeot P88 still holds the world record speed at the Le Man track of 252mph. The Peugeot P88 had a 2.8 PRV twin turbo set up of 910hp. Funny how the Bugatti Veyron used a PRV powered car for its top speed mark.
@@jparsons233 I drove one a couple of years ago it felt really underpowered and noisy and not good at handling a very cool car and my dream car but that engine is the worst thing on the car it looks awful and sounds awful and its from Renault what more can I say . More horsepower is needed in this car it deserves it.
stratpluslover my best friend has a complete stock super early 1981. They did change the ride height at the factory to meet regulations at the time. I’ll admit it did affect handling. Lower the car down and makes it handle beautifully. I have a few videos of the PRV that sound really amazing on my channel all my friends are also owners. Also switching to EFI and a new exhaust really helps that engine tremendously. Still overall a good little engine.
My Fiero is preparing me mentally for the Delorean.
Look for the vehicle to cost roughly $90,000 when it goes on sale in 2013.
WTF does "A huge V8 the size of Arkansas" mean?
It's what made the GTO such a great muscle car...compact car + huge engine = muscle car. Too bad the Delorean's engine was so underpowered.
Ever heard of something called "metaphor"?
@@VinnyDaQ the gto was compact
If my calculations are correct..........when this post hits 88 comments/likes/reactions.........you're gonna see some serious shit!!!!!!!! 2:28...................COLT VISTA, BABY!!!!!!!!!!
If not for Back to the future, no one would care about the Delorean.
Fiveo waf what utter twaddle!
Hate on Quentin but hes 100 per cent right about the car . It was rushed in production and had a crap underpowered engine the things on this car was off other cars . Accept it delorean enthusiasts Quentin Wilson is right . But it's a great looking car
It's more so because of Robert Zemeckis did its popularity and the notoriety of John delorean and the stuff's he did.
@@Menaceblue3 if it wasn't for BTTF this car wouldn't be as popular lol
Wtf does " the brew ha ha " mean. This dude just speaks gibberish.
brouhaha - a situation that causes upset, anger, or confusion
bttf
Worst documentary I’ve ever seen. Could tell that it was so biased that it overlooked lots of facts and doesn’t do the car nor John D. any justice. Sure the car had bugs....no car in history has been put in production so fast but most are still running to this very day.....the same can’t be said about lots of other cars.
Surely one of the best looking piles of utter junk ever manufactured.
This show is as bad as today's MSM. So many things that aren't true or just misleading. "The interior crumbled to the touch." The interior in my DeLorean is original and almost nothing has failed or broken. It still gets more attention than the Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes every time I bring it out or go to a cruise night. The judge "accused" the FBI of entrapment? It WAS entrapment. And he was forced out of business by Detroit's Big 3. Dealers who said they would carry his car line were told there would be repercussions with the line they were carrying if they sold the DMC-12. What a jaded program.
This car was better suited for Euro market. Renault was never liked in USA. This car was failure
This film is so unobjective. boooo
this Video is total Crap. Bashing the car all around. In the Beginning the car had issues yes. But now there are so many updated parts and Stage II and Stage III engines the car could be an every day driver with out any issues. I have gotten to drive one and ride in two diffrent ones the car is Wonderful to drive and ride in.
it's a worthless peace of garbidge.
so better than Fiat then
As if you'd know
Not worthless, here in 2019 you can pay over £30K for a nice LHD one.