I have to admit I'm quite baffled as to why you would play music so loud that I can't hear the bike when riding it. The sound is the best part, and I feel you've robbed me of the pleasure of hearing a 500 at full throttle.
I've owned multiple versions ( 100% stock to big bore ported craziness) of both the CR and KX 500's. Each one has it's own place, CR more MX and woods riding. The KX is more of a desert/dune or a MX track with long straights .
Two awesome bikes, I used to have a Kawi so I'm biased towards green. Great to see them both out there ripping. Would like to see a test on a late 90s/early 00's KTM 380 if you can get your hands on one
I’ve had both, a 91 CR500 for 9 years and a 99 KX500 for 6 years. The CR turned better and was had plenty of power but the KX was better overall, felt faster, had more power and seemed a bit more stable on top. I’d take either today and be happy, wish I still had them.
Good vid, awesome to see the 2 big 500s out there, in this era was always mostly a Honda guy, had a couple KX 125s in 84/85 back in the day. But always Yamaha or Honda before or post that. Always had a soft spot for both, but the KX always stood out to me, for some reason, its the one I have always wanted, especially the KIPS engine onwards. Be good to see you do a similar year fork upgrade on the CR to re compare with the KX, I do think suspension and setup makes a big difference, these bikes didn't get allot of the upgrades like the 250/125s did of that era, they usually were behind. So that would be good to see. Still great to see both bikes on the track. Also be interesting to see what someone could do to strengthen and stiffen the frame, bracing extra welds etc, always wondered why no one looked at that as the Factories often did it, course you want someone or have a jug setup to prevent warping etc, Id imagine it wouldn't be a easy task to do or do right, but its something I have thought of doing if I got one, the frames obviously aren't new, materials stretch fatigue in various ways. Its always interested me though. Look forward to what you do next. 🤘
@@maverick2242 hi bud, that’s awesome agreed it would be cool to really go to town on dialling these bikes in but part of me likes the rawness to them. There not easy to ride and I like that. The kawi engine is much better overall it’s struggles a bit of the flat turns as it feels like a long boat but everything else is that bit more comfortable. Also the Honda is a very small bike so the difference is huge on feel. Next up is a really nice 250 fully race prepped I think you will enjoy it 😊
I did race the SR500 for years and they have there shine! The 90-91 SR500 was on the 250 frame it was pretty good to be honest 🙏 But the HRC 500 is the bike of the bike's my pic would be the Honda and I'm tall 6,5' 230lbs. Fun video hat of from Sweden Scandinavia 🇸🇪
@@peanutjellyman It depends on what your prefer in a bike ! I do prefer fast cornering before stable in a long straight! As you go flat 4-5 gear you over the rear fender and take waight of the front end. Good suspension is major kee to achieve a good bike ! I did use the Öhlins for most part. WP Extreme 50mm also used back than. So even the Marzoochi 45 & 50mm Magnum fork. I do not ride much super cross so my setup is based on MX. I'm 6,5' 220lbs so run high bar and push the clamps as much forward as it is possible. Also I move pegs further back 1/4" to 1/2" mostly depends on the chassi we speak about. My last bike like that was the 92 kx 250 frame and the 500 motor. That bike did not be a good bike how hard I try. The 90-91 250 frame was good so it is Important pick the right frame for you 💯 That's, what it is about building a race bike that's fast ! The old SR500 I started whit green in 1985
My last bike was a nice 91 YZ 250 , I wish I kept it an an put a good 500 engine in , the Power valve system had been deleted for some reason, I could only ride it fast or it would choke up , think it was a x race bike
@LetsTorqueBikes you have the kyb suspension mine is the old showa suspension my dad has a 2001 cr500 his kyb suspension was far superior until i got the gold valves
Was it really chassis flex on on the CR or just the suspension letting it down? Obviously neither are stock and both have different suspension setups... Been into these bikes since the day they rolled off the show room floor, never heard the CR criticised for having a "flexy" frame...
@@jaialcorn8945 I think it’s the fact it’s nearly 30 years old mate, might be different if we was doing this video back then I’m just comparing both bikes as they feel right now. But for sure the suspension is a little soft but you feel the bike flex also. Most old bikes do compared to the modern steel / alloy frames
Do you realize what you said about the CR500 power and being able to stay in forth gear? You could ride the track in forth gear. Then you said you needed to change gears more often?? You seem to be confused. But, in my opinion you looked more confident and Faster on the CR500.
@@dennismillus4581 because of that torque of the Honda you ‘could’ if you wished to do so use 4th the whole time. A bike with more torque and less over rev is a bike you change gear more on from third to fourth gear in the Hondas case. The kawasaki has more spread power so the gear you use in a turn usually does the straight too, which is less gear changes. So it’s exactly how I said it having ridden the bikes back to back. Third gear is good for turns on the Honda & then a change to 4th for the straights rather than revving it out where there is no more power left. Hope this helps your confusion
Did you really think we clicked on a 500 video to hear that absolute shit music over the bike??? Should have put the loud shit music over the guy blabber mouthing nonstop. LOL I'm just playing but yeah we prefer to hear the bike.
Mate you’ve put music over the 1 thing we all came to listen to 😭😭
@@bradmarshall8363 thank you for the feedback it’s the first one much more to come and will keep that in mind
CR-500 for motocross racing
kX-500 for desert racing
I have to admit I'm quite baffled as to why you would play music so loud that I can't hear the bike when riding it. The sound is the best part, and I feel you've robbed me of the pleasure of hearing a 500 at full throttle.
Tonights episode will be more to your taste! Raw 2 stroke action👍🏼
Great watch! Looking forward to seeing more of these videos 👏👏
@@matthewharris2440 appreciate it bud plenty more to come 😊👊
I've owned multiple versions ( 100% stock to big bore ported craziness) of both the CR and KX 500's. Each one has it's own place, CR more MX and woods riding. The KX is more of a desert/dune or a MX track with long straights .
@@DanielStahler-m8f agreed there good in different areas but also varies preference from rider to rider
Two awesome bikes, I used to have a Kawi so I'm biased towards green. Great to see them both out there ripping.
Would like to see a test on a late 90s/early 00's KTM 380 if you can get your hands on one
@@davidhinton808 awesome dude will definitely work on getting hold of one 👌
That kit on them bikes takes me back to mid 90s acu meetings 😎
@@Coopdegras those were the Days! So I’ve been told anyway haha
Great first vlog mate ; subscribed 👍🏻👌
@@iainchesterman5474 thank you 😊
Great Video mate Really Professional 👌🏁
@@haydenstevens646 thanks a lot bud more to come 👊
I’ve had both, a 91 CR500 for 9 years and a 99 KX500 for 6 years. The CR turned better and was had plenty of power but the KX was better overall, felt faster, had more power and seemed a bit more stable on top.
I’d take either today and be happy, wish I still had them.
Good vid, awesome to see the 2 big 500s out there, in this era was always mostly a Honda guy, had a couple KX 125s in 84/85 back in the day. But always Yamaha or Honda before or post that. Always had a soft spot for both, but the KX always stood out to me, for some reason, its the one I have always wanted, especially the KIPS engine onwards.
Be good to see you do a similar year fork upgrade on the CR to re compare with the KX, I do think suspension and setup makes a big difference, these bikes didn't get allot of the upgrades like the 250/125s did of that era, they usually were behind.
So that would be good to see. Still great to see both bikes on the track.
Also be interesting to see what someone could do to strengthen and stiffen the frame, bracing extra welds etc, always wondered why no one looked at that as the Factories often did it, course you want someone or have a jug setup to prevent warping etc, Id imagine it wouldn't be a easy task to do or do right, but its something I have thought of doing if I got one, the frames obviously aren't new, materials stretch fatigue in various ways. Its always interested me though.
Look forward to what you do next. 🤘
@@maverick2242 hi bud, that’s awesome agreed it would be cool to really go to town on dialling these bikes in but part of me likes the rawness to them. There not easy to ride and I like that. The kawi engine is much better overall it’s struggles a bit of the flat turns as it feels like a long boat but everything else is that bit more comfortable. Also the Honda is a very small bike so the difference is huge on feel.
Next up is a really nice 250 fully race prepped I think you will enjoy it 😊
@@LetsTorqueBikescan just throw hondas around haha
My current fav is my 2003YZ 250/IT 465cc 2 stroke. Broad PB, always fun. weighs 236 wet.
@@OneSon744 🔥👌👌
Sweet video
@@902_Nick thank you 🙏
I did race the SR500 for years and they have there shine!
The 90-91 SR500 was on the 250 frame it was pretty good to be honest 🙏
But the HRC 500 is the bike of the bike's my pic would be the Honda and I'm tall 6,5' 230lbs.
Fun video hat of from Sweden Scandinavia 🇸🇪
@@bjornchristiansson2827 sounds awesome bud 👌👌
@bjornchristiansson2827 do you have any pictures of your sr500?
@@peanutjellyman
I might have ! So long ago and it's a paper photo
@bjornchristiansson2827 is there anyway to get them, my favourite factory bike
@@peanutjellyman
It depends on what your prefer in a bike !
I do prefer fast cornering before stable in a long straight!
As you go flat 4-5 gear you over the rear fender and take waight of the front end.
Good suspension is major kee to achieve a good bike !
I did use the Öhlins for most part.
WP Extreme 50mm also used back than.
So even the Marzoochi 45 & 50mm Magnum fork.
I do not ride much super cross so my setup is based on MX.
I'm 6,5' 220lbs so run high bar and push the clamps as much forward as it is possible.
Also I move pegs further back 1/4" to 1/2" mostly depends on the chassi we speak about.
My last bike like that was the 92 kx 250 frame and the 500 motor.
That bike did not be a good bike how hard I try.
The 90-91 250 frame was good so it is Important pick the right frame for you 💯
That's, what it is about building a race bike that's fast ! The old SR500 I started whit green in 1985
My last bike was a nice 91 YZ 250 , I wish I kept it an an put a good 500 engine in , the Power valve system had been deleted for some reason, I could only ride it fast or it would choke up , think it was a x race bike
@@kingkong81icloud if it’s 2 stroke it’s fun bud 👌👌
Kx looked better and the whips looked sick on the kx on the day so defo have to go for KX
@@motolad91 Top man 👊
Great video
@@griffiths_ktm_2730 👊👊
You riding 2 stroke festival?? Want you to sign my kx85 number plate 😂
Wanna see you shred the EVO Kx500 🔥
@@Onewheeltommy unfortunately can’t make it this year dude hopefully we catch up another time 👊
Ok mate hope you come next year bro 👊
Dope vlog but music kinda took away the motors shining moments 😥
@@_WatsoBrii94_ thanks for the feedback mate we will take it onboard 👊
Where you get that APICO gear m8?
@@LEEROY_UK through ride mfg bud it was provided by apico for last years VMXDN foxhills
Get some 09 crf forks on that bad boy or a newer triple clamp and the 2024 forks
Iv got a 94 with 09 forks and race tech gold valve kit in the shock until i can afford the mxtech shock
@@Boorer_555 nice dude ! I like to keep the Honda as original as possible on the flat old school tracks the soft fork and setup works really well 👌
@LetsTorqueBikes you have the kyb suspension mine is the old showa suspension my dad has a 2001 cr500 his kyb suspension was far superior until i got the gold valves
@@Boorer_555 yes bud heard the showa’s were not very adjustable haha
Honda everyday
@@fillipivanoff2026 👌👌
Hon-duh
KX is whole generation older than the Honda
@@mikevaughan7681 definitely looks that way but the kawi in this video is 2 years newer, pretty crazy !
KX all day long
She does ride smooth bud
Hon-duh or kawa-suck-i
Hehehe
Was it really chassis flex on on the CR or just the suspension letting it down? Obviously neither are stock and both have different suspension setups... Been into these bikes since the day they rolled off the show room floor, never heard the CR criticised for having a "flexy" frame...
@@jaialcorn8945 I think it’s the fact it’s nearly 30 years old mate, might be different if we was doing this video back then I’m just comparing both bikes as they feel right now. But for sure the suspension is a little soft but you feel the bike flex also. Most old bikes do compared to the modern steel / alloy frames
Do you realize what you said about the CR500 power and being able to stay in forth gear? You could ride the track in forth gear. Then you said you needed to change gears more often?? You seem to be confused. But, in my opinion you looked more confident and Faster on the CR500.
@@dennismillus4581 because of that torque of the Honda you ‘could’ if you wished to do so use 4th the whole time. A bike with more torque and less over rev is a bike you change gear more on from third to fourth gear in the Hondas case. The kawasaki has more spread power so the gear you use in a turn usually does the straight too, which is less gear changes. So it’s exactly how I said it having ridden the bikes back to back. Third gear is good for turns on the Honda & then a change to 4th for the straights rather than revving it out where there is no more power left. Hope this helps your confusion
@LetsTorqueBikes lol not confused. Bit, I did enjoy your video. Please keep the 500cc Two Strokes alive.
@ thank you will keep them coming 😊
first
Cr 491cc
Kx true 499 cc
Can anyone please explain in a scientific way why the expansion chamber between the two bikes are so differently shaped?
KX All rd beats Cr
kx made more power and had a way better transmission for offroad , the cr 500 was a better MX bike , the KX was a better all around machine .
@@superbeast-lq3ft at factory level for sure, at consumer I’d say most found the kawasaki easier to ride and more manageable
Did you really think we clicked on a 500 video to hear that absolute shit music over the bike??? Should have put the loud shit music over the guy blabber mouthing nonstop. LOL I'm just playing but yeah we prefer to hear the bike.
@@baby-sharkgto4902remove yourself from this channel quietly thank you