American Reacts to the EuroVision Song Contest of 2024 RESULTS | Baby Lasagna Joost Klein Nemo Gåte
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- Join me as I react to the results of the EuroVision Song Contest 0f 2024!
This is my wrap up of the contest and reaction to the final results. Plus a basic run down of how it went down, what I thought of it, and some special shout outs!
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Hey all. For what it's worth, I truly appreciate you watching this and accepting my opinion, which is just that. With all the feedback I have received, I have grown to appreciate this contest even more. Thanks so much for the comments and I truly value all the comments, feedback, explanations, and discussions. #unitedbymusic ...... See you next year.
Our plan to spread knowledge of Eurovision Song Contest around the world is working... (((taps fingers evilly)))
Can you see Portugal 🇵🇹 semi final, and comment the jury vote #7, and the public vote #20??
Thanks God jury can recognise quality.
Israel is better than Switzerland or Croatia.
I ❤ ❤️ ❤️ Rim Tim Tagi Tim!
Everyone smiles during this song,
it's so great!👏👏👏👏👏👏
😊 It's just a song, but the rhythm and the positive vibration grabs you, you can't resist, it touches your heart and you feel good and strong! Could it be that such a song could create a "pandemic" of joy and peace to heal the wounds in our torn world?
Hopefully yes ❤ ❤ ❤
Hopefully!! 🤘🐈Keep on Rockin'🐈🤘
By far the most beautiful moment not only of this ESC but in history is:
EUROPE DANCES WITH ME!!!
❤️❤️❤️🎶🎵🎼🕺💃💃🕺🕺👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Dance of the whole hall.!!! Historic moment!!!!
DJs all over the world cover it. What is it if not a WINNER!!!
Yesssssssss, EUROPE, THE WHOLE WORLD IS DANCING WITH YOU, UNITED WITH YOU... WE GO... LET'S DANCE TOGETHER AGAIN, AGAIN!!!
#unitedbymusic thank you.
Amen to absolutely every single word you said. I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you for your reaction Dane. It's really nice to hear someone like you saying exactly what I think and feel since the ESC final. 🥰
Thank you so much!! I truly appreciate the support and comment!
Baby Lasagna sold out his first concert in 4 min. He added 2 more. Second was sold out in 12 min and third by the end of the day. So you are right, he acutally won 😊
Boom!! 🤘😼 Keep on Rockin'🐈🤘
@@DaneBramageROCKS btw you can check how was he welcomed in croatia when he came back from Malmö. 😉
@@sucha0000 I watched it!! Got all the Goosebumps!
Nemo was one of the favorites from the beginning. Great voice, great performance. Winning Well deserved . Baby lasagna as second also well deserved, but yes, my absolute favorite was Joost this year. He would have been my winner.
Awesome and thanks for sharing that! I did enjoy the performance, that Top platform thing was neat. But yes, I wish so bad Joost could have been in it.
Dan you should come to Croatia, you are star here because in your reaction for Rim Tim you were happy like a child. You were also on our internet sites.
I would love to come visit and hope someday I can and will! Thank you so much. Would be fun to judge a show!! What sites did you see me on?
As recently as April 29th Switzerland were 1st in the odds and 3rd on the night of the contest so not very surprising.
Netherlands dq probably made the contest more even since they probably shared a lot of fans with Croatia.
And my final thought is that the worst thing that happened is that Italy revealed their semi televote number. Started a lot of campaigns around Europe, even on Sweden's biggest net forum, to vote for Israel and the odds started going bananas. Before that Israel were 8th in the odds.
Ah ok!! I am glad to hear to that Switzerland was more legit that I may have originally thought! Thanks so much for providing that information and I appreciate you commenting!
Great recap, thank you, Dane. 🥰🙏 Congratulations on Belgium feature!💥Meow from sLOVEnia.😻
Thank you so much!! 🤘🐈Keep on Rockin'🐈🤘
I would have loved to have seen Joost perform and then seen the final vote from the jury and public. I think the final results would have been very different. Since I've been watching, it always appears that politics and agenda seem to outweigh the music and performances. It's really unfortunate. Keep the shenanigans and controversies out of it. The best part of the Eurovision competition is the wide variety of musical styles and performances, and there will always be something for everyone to enjoy! Remember, we should be #unitedbymusic !! ❤🎶
Great wrap up video, Dane! You're now the American Ambassador for the Eurovision song contest 😂🌎❤
I agree, the outcome would have been way different if he was there! I hope ESC can refocus on the music going forward. I do not want to see this contest loose viewership.
I was eagerly waiting for this video to know your opinion! thank you!!
Thank you. Hope it was ok! ❤️
Of course! Always love your videos and opinions, and I am a huge rock and Käärijä fan too.
I absolutely agree with this year being so difficult, there were so many incredible songs, so many deserved top 10. And Croatia is the absolute winner this year and agree that Switzerland wasn't that great, just like last year with Käärijä who is the best thing to ever happen to Eurovision.
@@esmeraldaescudero3972 Excellent and that l you. Glad we see eye to eye!
Agree that Croatia should have won, but in a way he did win, he won a career he didn't have before the ESC season, and the hearts and ears of the planet. I and my household gave him a ton of votes between us in the final. So aggravating to see him win the televote by a measure then realise your vote is STILL basically wasted. The rest of my votes went to Slovenia and Estonia and I was sad to see them do so poorly. Austria I loved too but knew the vocal quality might work against her a lot. I gave 90% of my semi votes to Slovenia and Raiven btw, felt she would benefit more than Lasagna, who was assured to qualify. I really needed to see her in the final, I cannot understand why her song and performance is so underrated against some really basic pop. I gave a single token vote to Israel as I admire the hell out of Eden for handling the mob behaviour aimed at her as well as liking her song. I did see a member of the Norwegian jury admit he deliberately didn't vote for Israel. The others did though, so they still got 8 points, haha, but there was definitely a lot of that kind of shit going on, always is. The Joost thing, ugh .... he is the architect of his own demise there, should have handled it differently - it's a sign of the stupidity going on that way too many of his fans decided somehow Joost's inabolity to handle things with Swedish production workers was Eden Golan and Israel, people who were kept away from pretty much everyone for most of the contest. The Swedish police think an offence was committed, and he is being charged. It isn't a conspiracy. Nobody made Joost act the fool except himself and for artists to object to being filmed in what is one huge global media circus and promotional opportunity eh, No. Norway, yeah did so poorly, didn't shock me in the end, juries don't reward that kind of music, and apparently neither to the majority of ESV voters. Did think the performance suffered a bit of that huger stage though tbqh, it lost a little in translation.
I did hear that Joost may be neurodivergent (?) and it had been made clear that he should not be filmed, and despite multiple requests he was filmed in secret (with videos published where you can hear giggling on the background). The camera person Joost had a run-in with refused stop filming. Joost would have needed more protection and respect, especially straight after an emotional performance.
Thanks so much and I love all the input and comment on your viewpoint! I did enjoy the ehck out of Slovenia as well adn she did get a couple of my tolens as well! It's crazy how this year turned out, not even the results, just everything behind the scenes. I understand the ESC has a ton to get through but I hope will recover and we carry on as it should be!
Baby Lasagna should be number one, odds are right, Israel came in the picture two days before finals and than everything became a mess with televotes and jury. EBU could not risk Israel to win with televote so they fill Nemo with jury votes. They could fill Croatia, but they did not, who knows why. As Croatian I can say that Nemo was my second best.
The EBU committees and boards consist of representatives of the participating broadcasters. Do you really think they would "instruct" the juries to vote for Nemo to prevent Israel from winning when they could have prevented Israel from participating before? If you look at the jury voting over the years, you will see that Nemo corresponds exactly to what juries at the ESC like, while a song like Baby Lasagnes is more of a televote favorite and is not so preferred by the juries. It´s the same situation than 2023 with Loreen and Käärijä.
Thanks so much for the input and comment! I appreciate you expressing that.
@@JochenSchoenherrthere is no way in hell that 22 juries from countries that are geografically, culturaly so different all independently all gave 12 points to the Swiss. No way. If you want to say the juries award songs that are vocally more challenging or whatever "experts" appreciate, there were other great vocalists so in that case other countries should have gotten 12 points too.
@@Marina_-_- Of course, it is not only possible, but also obvious, for juries to rally behind an entry. In today's world, which is becoming ever closer together due to the media, the availability of unlimited transport options and globalization, the music world is also becoming ever closer together. Globally operating labels, international songwriting camps, festivals known almost worldwide and many more are an indication of international collaboration (and thus also the equalization of cultural differences in music) worldwide and (to an even greater extent) within Europe. That doesn't mean that these differences will disappear, but people who deal with music professionally as musicians, producers, label managers, songwriters or similar are usually internationally networked and musically influenced.
"The code" was created, for example, at an international songwriter camp in which 37 musicians, authors and composers from Switzerland as well as Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, Israel and Finland took part.
@@JochenSchoenherr I don't think you got my point at all.
From what I've heard, Israel's delegation was filming other artists and people part of the press without their permission and there were many complaints reported about them to the EBU, but nothing was done about it (e.g. Käärijä wanted the video of him and Eden deleted but they refused). Instead Joost was disqualified for not wanting to filmed and that's another reason why people are so especially upset about it. Also Israel's commentator had some quite offensive comments about Ireland, which you can imagine is not really allowed.
These are all things you've heard from people who themselves have probably heard it from someone else. It's all just rumors and speculation. The fact is: The EBU stated that several delegations had violated the rules. Not only one. And that things are being investigated. The fact is also: Nobody (here) knows exactly why Joost was DQ. What you say (and what is said in the video) are just rumors (not facts). The thing is: the police were called and now the case is with the prosecutor. That makes me think there was more going on. But that's just a guess. I will not condemn Joost or the EBU until I know what really happened.
Overall it was a mess. And you are correct, everything is just speculation and the rumor mills are circling and I understand there were a few incidents but only one immediate action. Thanks so much for commenting and providing your input! Cheers.
Oh right, I did read about that! There was so much and I tried to cover down on as much as possible but I appreciate you providing that information and providing your feedback. I truly appreciate your comment!
@@JochenSchoenherr There are several people that have stated he was very agressive and hit a camera our of a ladies hand using his fist.
He also had been given an official warning before that.
He brought shame to NL.
@@Aperazzo_Salsa_Pics I know these stories too. For example: In Germany, where he is also very well known, there are people who worked with him and now say that he would react very aggressively under too much stress. And Eurovision is undoubtedly stressful. But here too: As long as the whole thing isn't clarified, I wouldn't want to prejudge anyone. I wasn't there, neither were you. Unfortunately, there is a lot of talking and speculation in such situations. Let's just wait for the official investigation.
You only quoted part of what Käärijä said.. he also said he'd asked several times for that video to be taken down.. and they refused to...
I did see that and agree, if he didn't want ti filmed, then it should not ahve been. Or at least posted. I was just making a point that this had nothing to do with his stance on the situation at hand. Which people criticized him of.
HELLO. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE EUROSONG FOR 40 YEARS. I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED AN AUDIENCE SING AND DANCE TO THE SONG OF B.L. ..THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD SONGS BUT RIM TIM TAGI DIM IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST. THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN EUROPE TODAY THAT DOESN'T LISTEN TO THAT SONG. I WONDER WHERE THE SWISS SONG IS HEARD ???
I just read on Wiwibloggs that The Code is #2 on the Spotify viral global chart, followed by Rim Tim Tagi Dim and Europapa. So, it’s heard a lot , all over the world. It is quality music - if it’s better or worse than Rim Tim is just a matter of taste - I prefer Rim Tim but hey, it’s crazy, it’s party so just enjoy what YOU like :)
(And honestly, wasn’t the audience reaction last year to Cha Cha Cha even more massive than to Rim Tim Tagi Dim?)
I can't stop listening to the Final performance because of the crowd. This was truly AMAZING!
I agree the Cha Cha Cha was LOUD last year, to the point that the Hosts were annoyed LOL. Which is great. But good on all the contestant and their success. I do not wish any I'll will on any of them, just was not my winner.
True about the newspaper! I discovered your channel just previous to this article myself, so I just thought that again, I was just waaay behind the times, and that you were already quite famous here in Belgium. ^^
Famous in Belgium eh?! Wow, that is crazy! Thanks so much for the support.
Baby Lasagna is the only one in the history of ESC to have 3 victories from the audience: 1. Dora-national competition, 2. Semi-Final in Malmo and 3. Grand Final in Malmo and he is a real winner. The Eurosong 2024. is named with his name!!!💯💯💯❤❤❤❤❤💥💥💥💥🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱
OH WHOA!! Nice, thanks for sharing that statistic! 🤘🐈Keep on Rockin'🐈🤘
That is not all, he won a prize from OGAE (the biggest fans of Eurosong) for the best artist and also two days ago he won a prize for the best costume on Eurosong, Yor are a vision aword.
@@zorantrtanj4100 Znam to, dobio je 3 nagrade dva dana prije finala, 1. nagrada za najbolju pjesmu, 2. nagrada za najboljeg izvodjaca i 3. nagrada od OGAE, od 19.000 fanova Eurosonga iz cijelog svijeta koji su glasali i on je winner
@@mila66ful stimmt nicht:
- Nemo Komposition Preis
- Nemo Best Artist
- BL Presse Preis
@@carmenis2778 I saw with my eyes when Baby Lasagna got 3 awards 2 days before the Final, 'm from Croatia and I followed everything related to BL, and I saw when those cups were handed to him.
6:38 Yes...politikal chois...i am wery sad about that. Baby Lasagna was and is the Winner. Publik say that...and me to.
🤘🏻🐱🤘🏻🐱
👍 yes 🇭🇷🌏❤️
That's only because Joost was disquilified.
I boycotted Eurovision this year. Seems I wasn't the only one then. I intend to boycott Eurovision indefinitely. The only thing that would make me watch the show again is if Käärijä comes back as a contestant. He has no reason to come back though. The EBU destroyed any remaining trust I had in them by throwing away millions of public votes just so the show could be held in Sweden on ABBA's 50th. Absolutely disgusting. So the EBU gets no more views or votes from me. I hope they tank even harder next year.
They seem to be in hot water adn are losing viewership. I would hope this contest does not tank, but more recovers to what it should be and what it was originally intended to be.
Käärijä definitely won't come back as a contestant. Imagine the pressure he would be under, and what would it do for his career? No obvious gain at all, but a huge risk, in case he would lose.
Käärijä wants to be friends with everyone. This means that sometimes he doesn't think about protecting his brand. It's not the first time a similar thing has happened with him. He can be a bit naïve. If he had a better manager that sort of thing wouldn't happen, because a decent manager would keep him out of trouble. I'm guessing the right kind of manager is rare in Finland since they have so few international stars. Few people in Finland get any practice in these matters. I hope Käärijä's record company gets him a better manager.
I love that about Käärijä and that is the way it should be. But yeah, I understand the protection of the brand.
Nailed it, dude. The jury messed everything up AGAIN!!!
Thank You!
honestly kaarija and baby lasagna robbed winners
Agreed
This year was the first where countries didn't give points like they used to. It was obvious what was going on.
Thanks for the confirmation!
Personally i really liked Nemo's perfomance and song. Also the public vote is 100% based on politics, just look at cyprus and greece
Thank you for commenting! I hope that a good handful are not though, mine was not, but I am indifferent in this case!
@@DaneBramageROCKS I don't know what you consider "politics," but it's going to be par for the course - intrinsic to the song (languages, themes, styles that resonate regionally) and extrinsic (diasporas, current events, advertising budgets). There's no way to avoid this and it's just as pronounced with public as with jury, if not more.
@@shams6662 Yeah, it is true. Par for the course. Thank you.
Cyprus gave 12 points to Croatia, not to Greece 🥰
@@shams6662 Also, it is not guaranteed that even diaspora votes for their own country if they don't like the song. Poland should have done better, given how many Polish people live in different countries. However, if they preferred Baby Lasagna they would have voted for that. Some of the loyalties no longer apply as strongly as before.
You are very naive to think that the public votes apolitical. In Europe all the far right parties asked their member to vote for Israel. Also the Israeli embassy did this - much more than ever. This is also the reason why Turkey is not in it. Otherwise they would win a lot of the times with their diaspora. The juries really have to be there to be a little bit more honnest. Another option is to limit the votes to one per device. Now you can vote 20 times.
I was more referring to the rest of the world. I did catch myself and say that some were but I would hope to believe that a good majority voted for their actual favorite. Aside from that, it is a shame when it gets in the way, no matter if it is Jury or Public. Thank you so much for commenting and providing your thoughts. I appreciate that.
This is all very true. Also, countries that are in conflicts will always get a certain amount of solidarity/sympathy votes - especially countries with the budget and political necessity to sway the vote.
“In Europe, all right-wing extremist parties called on their members to vote for Israel.” I'm sorry, but that's really not true. I don't know exactly about right-wing extremist parties in southern Europe. But in northern and central Europe, unfortunately, right-wing extremist parties are (still) completely anti-Semitic and would never ask their members to vote for Israel. Fortunately, it was the middle of society that voted for Israel.
This is exactly what happened. It was mostly political, not about the song unfortunately.
@@JochenSchoenherr wrong. In Belgium and the Netherlands extreme and far right politicians openly support Israel, both in the war and eurovison. The political centre is neutral or pro palestine.
Baby Lasagna is the KING
🤘😼 Keep on Rockin'🐈🤘
About the voting. Isn’t it the other way around? The public votes politically and the jury votes on music and art? I think it’s both ways.
It very well may be. Thanks for the comment and understanding!
@@DaneBramageROCKS It mostly is.
If the public votes would be given out like the jury votes, you'd see them as much more clustered.
Sometimes things are called political when it isn't. If you live in one country & your neighbour has a song in their language which you can understand as well or if their singer is popular in the whole region, you simply are much more likely to vote for it.
Yes, the UK will call foul & call this politics, but they do this themselves as well, see the times when they complain about points from/to Ireland & Australia.
Overthinking it has a great video about politics in Eurovision.
There have been bribes, see when Franco(Spanish dictator) wanted the win & sir Cliff Richard was second. Azerbaijan has also been rumoured to have done this. But at the same time there have been cases of countries buying up sim cards to influence the public votes. Israel has been accused of that this year as well, next to the(proven) Social Media campaign & advertisements.
But normally speaking the jury votes are much more spread out.
Where i wish the jury did better was to not always reward English pop songs. More or less; stop giving all those points to Sweden for forgettable songs.(pun intended)
It feels like you get punished for singing in your own language or doing a genre that isn't pop. Like Norway this year. The jury should've been aware of the singing technique called Kulning, shouldn't have disregarded a folk/metal song & shouldn't have punished a Norwegian language song.
The public simply voted for songs that had more of a chance like Croatia & Ireland.
@@LeafHuntress Yeah I have been hearing more about these bribes and public voting schemes. It is impossible to believe that it does not exists and I keep hearing of instances that prove they do exist. Thanks for the info!
I have been waiting for this video! :) Here are some of my thoughts:
I don't think the Juries had decided who the winner was going to be - Nemo's vocal ability became clear at the pre-parties, but even then he was not a favourite by the bookies. Last year was very different with Loreen becoming the runaway favourite from before she was even selected to represent Sweden. Käärijä got 12 points from 18 countries, whereas Loreen didn't get any, so the discrepancy between the Juries and the Public was massive. This year the Juries awarded Croatia a massive 210 points, with a couple of twelves, and several tens and eights (the next on the list, Italy, only got 164 votes from Juries). I love Rim Tim Tagi Dim (one of my favourites), but Nemo's The Code is much more complex, interesting and requires an insane vocal ability (especially when balancing on the circular disc). Juries also did not follow the odds, as last year with Loreen. Rim Tim Tagi Dim was always going to be a crowd pleaser, as it is a banger and easy to sing along to, and it gets you moving with the simple dance routine. In a way it brings people together, and this is a huge opportunity for Croatia going forward. Marko also has a good raspy rock voice. Nemo was on a different level with his vocal ability, but I can understand why rock fans would not get the rather avant-garde opera/rap combination.
Last year the Juries got it wrong, but this year, it is hard to complain about the Jury voting. Actually, when you look at the top 10 list voted by the Juries, there is quite a mix of songs, and they did not go just for the safe pop songs as is often the case. Even Armenia did well with a very ethnic and fun entry! Israel was also in the Top 12 by the Juries, despite many countries preferring not to vote for it. I was surprised about Juries voting for Ireland, but Bambie does have quite a vocal ability and the stage show, whilst too much for some, was exquisitely executed and the camera work was on point. It was pure theatre with a (scary) story. I prefer the music video, but this was visually impressive. They are definitely an interesting artist and brought something totally outside of the box to ESC!
eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#scoreboard.
When you look at the public votes, they were fairly evenly split between Croatia, Israel and Ukraine, and the split would have been even bigger had Joost performed. It is possible that Croatia would have fallen lower, with Switzerland winning and Israel coming second. In fact, Israel might even have won with the concentrated voting! (It is worth noting that there were big voting campaigns by right-wing parties in Europe with Members of Parliament in some countries encouraging their followers to vote for Israel, and Israeli government funding c. $1.5m social media campaign to drive votes their way - I assume this is against the rules).
A point about the public votes: in some countries it is expensive to vote (Finland: €1.00, Estonia €1.70, I think), whereas in some countries it is really cheap (UK: 15p and many others on those lines). If the voting is expensive, you tend to select a couple of favourites and give one vote for each. However, those who really want to make a statement will spend the full €20.00 (using the Finnish cost as an example). This happened with Israel's votes. Those who wanted to support Israel's cause (including supporters of far right politics) focused a lot of points to Israel, never having even heard the song. The same happened in other countries. Hurricane is not on the charts of many countries that gave it 12 points. If the votes were genuine, people would actually listen to it. However, in some countries that voted it the best song, it doesn't make even Top 200. Had Israel won, we would have one heck of a s*it storm on our hands. Luckily that didn't happen and Nemo will be a fantastic ambassador to repair some of the damage done this year.
As for the video about Käärijä and Eden Golan, I heard that Käärijä was not aware of who she was at the time (can't confirm if true), and he is very polite and will oblige if asked to do something. He would not have known the level of harassment other artists were getting from the Israeli delegation. I think he would have refused, had he been aware of everything that was happening, but it only came to light later. Only once the video was posted without his consent, and not removed for a long time despite multiple requests, he realised that he was being used on purpose. Unfortunately, this year ESC was going to be about politics, as EBU failed repeatedly to take the right action. EBU also failed to protect the artists and the press from harassment, and people did not feel safe.
A lot of changes will be needed to make next year's Eurovision happen, including a new sponsor to replace Moroccan Oil (Israeli company), as well as some big changes in the management of EBU.
Thank you so much for responding with all that wonderful information. I am glad to see that a lot of people do agree with this years winner, perhaps I under-estimated or unappreciated Nemo's vocals, that is a mistake on my part but appreciate you clarifying the results. I also appreciate the detail about the Käärijä situation. There are a lot of unknowns and I would hope, regardless if he know Eden or not, that he still would have shown her some grace and appreciation for the fun dance. Thank you so so much for the support, accepting my opinion and providing yours!! This is how it should be! Cheers.
@@DaneBramageROCKS I think the huge problem with Käärijä's video being published without his consent was the backlash he got from his followers, who misinterpreted the situation and some said horrible things about him. He was seen as a friend of Israel, and it became something else than just a fun moment and people turned against him. Israeli team were frequently filming people secretly (and possibly setting up situations, who knows - this is pure speculation from me, but this could have happened here). There have been multiple complaints by artists about the behaviour of the Israeli delegation, but the Käärijä video happened before he would have known about it.
I think Nemo's song went under the radar for a long time, until people heard him live. His reviews from vocal coaches are interesting to watch! I'll be vibing to several ESC songs for a long time, Croatia and Switzerland both featuring on the list! They are both such bangers!
Keep the videos coming!!! They are amazing!
@@tanjanikola9489 Good point, I should not have been viewed that way but here we are. I know Käärijä is no stranger to backlash and hate comments (hence ROUSKA) but yeah, they should not be filming in secret, anywhere. Thank you!! More to come.
I agree with lots of things that you wrote, especially with people voting for Israel to make a statement. But, when it became obvious that Israel is making a voting campaign (invitations for voting were all over different global jewish sites and groups and it was also evident after italian mistake with publishing by accident results of televote of second semi-final) EBU was in big trouble and obviously trying to avoid catastrophy in case of Israels winning. Now, I don't deny that Nemo has more than decent vocal abilities but there were other artist with equal or even better vocal abilities imho (Slimane, Eden, Nutsa, Jerry Heil, Raiven, Gate, Iolanda - just to name a few) . Nemo was really very good, but not that good to have so many 12 points regardles of how other points were spread among other countries. It is very, very hard not to believe that at least part of those 12s given to Nemo weren't politically and strategically given (just like the low jury points for Israel). EBU couldn't risk with Israel and had to make huge jury vote points for one artist to ensure that Israel with low jury points won't surpass them because of enormous televote. They needed someone with good televote potential who will "eat up" part of Israels televote naturally - and they had it in people's favourite Baby Lasagna (who even managed to have more votes than Israel in the end). It should have been enough to secure Nemo's victory, so the next year the whole shabang goes to a strong country that can endure and handle all the shitty stuff (protests, incidents...) that happen on ESC.This year was very "odd" to say the least. I must say that regarding all the songs and the places they took or should have taken - I completely agree with Dane.
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Thank you for interesting points! I didn't know all that about the Israeli advertising campaign. It makes sense they mobilised the religious circles as well to vote for their country.
I don't think there is any conspiracy to make Nemo win. The performance was quite a jaw-dropper. If you watch the reactions by vocal coaches on the song, it is easier to understand why it scored high from Juries. The opera part may not be to everyone's taste and a lot of people hate Nemo as an artist because of his gender identity and he got mocked for his dress, but the song still got 226 points from the public. Juries gave Croatia 210 points (actually a bit better than I expected - the song is a big favourite of mine, but it is not vocally as demanding, apart from needing a raspy rock voice - it is sung fairly 'flat'). The result could have literally gone either way.
The Juries gave over 100 points to all countries in the top 10, apart from Israel. That indicates that there were a lot of favourites, and songs scoring high. The Public and Juries also agreed on a lot of songs, but not all. I understand why, for example, Sweden would get better points from the Juries than the public: the song is superbly produced, very professional, and perfect for the radio, but it is fairly average to the listener. The voting is also not just on vocals, but on the song, the performance, staging and the whole package. This year was strong with so many good performers. Ukraine and France did both well (3rd and 4th). Apparently Slimane had a small break in voice in the Jury Show.
There are different tastes. For example I didn't like Slovenia that much (especially the vocals at the end), I loved Gåte (voted for it), but I knew people listening to it for the first time would not get the song because of the vocals. Iolanda's performance was super artistic and beautiful and she was flawless, but I doubt many people actually remember the song itself after hearing it for the first time (Juries loved it). I actually had to remind myself which song was Nutsa's, as there were so many female singers with male dancers. If the song is not memorable, it won't get many votes. Also if there are several songs that are similar, the votes get split and may end up being lower than they deserve.
It is what it is. A lot of people are super grateful for Switzerland winning this time, not only because they thought the song deserved to win representing something different, almost like a new genre, but also because Nemo is an amazing ambassador to Eurovision, and what it should be about. I think the upset about Croatia not winning, is partly because it would have been such a fairytale story. Croatia was the favourite to win at the end of the day, and if the Juries would have wanted to completely make sure Israel doesn't win, they would have concentrated everything on Croatia. Second place from Croatia was a super result! The song is a crowd pleaser and many people's favourite (mine too).
Israel was absolutely mediocre no matter what you think of the conflict. We've seen that song 13905 times already at Eurovision. Also, they put the video of Kaarija online without his consent. And Israels delegation was doing that sort of shit a lot. If you have read so much about the contest, you must know this.
Yeah understandable, I just don't think Käärijä should have received so much back last and hate comments because of it, but rightfully so, if he didn't want to be filmed then that should have been respected. Also, I did know about the Israel delegation, Not cool.
I feel like I was the only one who loved Nemo & was so happy they won…
Actually, I really liked the song too. I was hoping either Nemo or Baby Lasagna would win so I'm happy with the outcome :)
No hate to Joost but I can't see the hype about his song because I could not get into the song...imo it wasn't that good at all. But hey.. it possible that the reason is that I don't like that kind of music to begin with:)
@@Tweetyfreaky Yeah exactly, I was happy either way between them two but was hoping for Nemo a little bit more cuz their vocals was better, Marko’s voice cracked several times, and didn’t think his voice was as strong 🙂
Nemo had a ton of support and did get 5th in the Popular vote and jury support. The performance was super cool too. It is just too bad that conflict shadows the results.
Good point and thank you for commenting! 🐱
I appreciate your feedback and comments. Thank you.
Estonia got robbed by the points, the should have gotten so many more. Poor lads. Still doing their dance! Thanks for covering this year, Dane!
Also I appreciate the discourse we were able to have about our favorites, regardless of politics or feelings. It's refreshing and sorry if I get too passionate about my particular choices LOL
AWWW Poor Estonia!! Thank so much for the comment Guy!
Do not be sorry, we all get passionate about personal favs! This is what makes the show so fun. Thank you for bringing it to us!
It’s a shame Joost got kicked out, but based on the jury votes he received he wouldn’t stand a chance at winning. Him being out made people vote more for the other artists and saved us from Israel winning. Israel did not play fair this year by involving religious communities who never even watch the show, buying votes and spending a ton of money on commercials for their artist. Their president got involved too. For them it’s definitely political. And all the drama they caused backstage by following and harassing other artists and publishing videos where they sneak filmed other artist was just disgusting to watch. If they would have won it would be the end of the contest for sure. I usually don’t like the jury, but this year they saved us.
Nemo was not my favourite, but the rightful winner. I spent all my votes on Windows95man 😅
Haha! Thank you from Finland! Trust my country to bring in some hilarious fun and a reminder not to take everything so seriously! 😅
Hi there and thank you so much for bringing that to light. I stared digging in more about the Israel media issues and yeah, they did seem to cause a problem there. I know Eden was not a part of this, I least I think, but the harassment was not ok. So I see your point and thanks so much for bringing that to light here. Aside from that, I did like Edens song as it was.
GO WINDOWS95 MAN - LOL. I loved that performance so much. Cheers, thanks so much for the comment and checking out this video!
@@tanjanikola9489 Me and my sister both love Finland. You always bring the good stuff! We dressed up as Windows95man this year 😅 And we went to the Blind Channel concert in Oslo a few weeks ago. It was insane in a good way 😍 My sister is also learning Finnish in Duolingo because of Käärijä. So yeah, Finland is our favourite land in ESC. And this years UMK was amazing. KUUMAA and Benjamin 🙌👏👍😍
I also think that the final decision should be with the public not a jury. I really think thats not fair.
The Public sometimes select totally off-the-wall songs, as was the case with Lordi winning with Hard Rock Hallelujah. That is when the Juries were brought back! 😅
Now with social media, and hardline politics at play, the importance of having Juries is even more important.
100% agree.
I heard about this! I don't think the Jury should be completely abolished because I do believe they can neutralize instances like this, but, as of late the balance has seemed......off.
Agree with everything you said. The public can't vote for their country to make it fair and equitable, but then the panel political bias & friend back slapping 💩💩's all over the process. Don't mind a panel voting from each country but it should only make up a 1/3 of the overall vote. Let the viewes' voice be heard. Having said that, Australia usually gets trashed in the viewers' vote 🤔
Yeah, Poor Australia. They did pretty soldi last year! Thanks so much for the comment and support! 🤘Keep on Rockin'🤘
Thank you for your honest opinion. Btw, Baby Lasagna sold out his concert in 4 minutes. Then he sold out two more....People just love him. Jury is all about politics not music.
Yeah, dude is the life winner for sure!
100% right on the jury voting being way too important in the final results. At most there should be the 30/70 rule, which by the way is how the national selection works for example in Finland, to my knowledge
Yeah I am hearing a ton of different thoughts on this and it's all over the place 😂 It's all good though. I would like to think that all votes are based on the music, but, doubt it. Thanks so much for the comment
I think at the Finnish UMK, Jury is 25%. However, we do then end up sending (Finnish) crowd-pleasing fun songs! And then people are demanding more Jury votes in the selection... can't win!
I personally didn't click with Norway's entry this year, but thought I was in the minority and that the song had a big following, so am also shocked how poorly Norway did in grand final.
Yes definately this year was very controversal and all that happened 'behind the scenes' got more publicity than the songs themselves so really it was hard to actually enjoy the show completely in the end.
Exactly!! Thank you so much!
Agree!
BL should have won !
I feel like public votes were much more politically biased than jury votes (look at Israel and Ukraine in second and third place). Juries seemed to place a lot of weight on good vocal performances, and that's why Nemo got so many points there, because their singing was so impressive. Germany also barely got any public votes but some jury votes due to how Isaak used his great voice to impress despite having a rather generic song.
Yeah a few other people thought the same thing and I think I agree. Mine were not, but I see your point. Thank you so much for the explanation and commenting!
@leonpgut Ukraine has been delivering constantly for decades now, long before there was such a thing as a ‘sympathy vote’. They consistently send quality and their staging is always top notch. Yes, their win in 2022 was skewed, that wasn’t the best song of the year. But this year’s result looks deserved to me: it was an example of how a song that wasn’t particularly my favourite really got elevated by a great staging and performance.
@@oscarfernald9402 True, Ukraine had one of my favorite songs as well (I have been listening to it regularly since the ESC). Still, it's noticeable how only Ukraine and Israel got over 300 public voting points (aside from the fan favorite Croatia).
If 22 juries voted for Nemo because they value vocals, their votes should have been dispersed too, there were at least 5 great vocalists there. So no, I don't believe the juries were not instructed on who should get almost all 12 points. 🤷
Nemo isn't typically my type of music, but the song and performance were really the whole package. Incredible songwriting and incredible execution. Reminded me a bit of Muse. Probably one of the best winners in recent years and again it's not really my genre. But overall the quality this year was great - in other years, many others could have won.
That is good to hear and I appreciate the comment. This song did resonate with a ton of people and that is great! Was not my favorite but, of course, not everyone has the same favorites! Thank You!
Seems like YT is shadowbanníng my comments. Not much I can do about that. It's unfortunate. YT c€nsoring is inaccurate at best. Thanks for the video anyway.
Oh shoot, I am sorry to hear that. I think everyone is allowed their opinion, whether they think mine is valid or not. Either way, thank you so much for watching this and supporting. I appreciate the comment.
Honestly I can see both arguments for Nemo winning - the song and his costuming (boy in a dress!) along with the latest in identity politics was clearly finely honed jury bait. He's actually a rapper, he discovered his flag waving NB identity conveniently close to the competition (6 months earlier), the song came from a song writing camp for ESC, he had fairly recently been in LA and decided to start singing in English as opposed to Swiss-German for obvious market reasons eh, you know, add it all together, it showed, there was to me something very cynical about it all. Whole thing was a finely plotted and successful career move. Compare and contrast to Lasagna whose song wasn't written for anything but his own album, no plotting to win, no ID politics to bait the jury., just something that felt a lot more organic and less cynical. However Nemo's vocals were very ,very good and the staging phenomenal. Did remind me a lot of a west end theatre performance tbqh. I admit it doesn't speak to me one bit though. Croatia, Slovenia, Estonia, hell LATVIA, said a hell of a lot more to me than the 'winner'.
The Code was towards the bottom of my list but the performance really moved it close to my top 10! Too "broadway" for me but they have vocal skills and that was a very athletic performance. I was surprised the song did so well with the jury. Croatia, Ukraine and Italy were my picks to win. Greece didn't do as well as I hoped.
Neutral Switzerland, as host for the next Eurovision contest, after this year full of controversy, is probably for the best.
This is a very strange view in my opinion. Juries can also be pretty conservative, so I doubt this has nothing to do with Nemo's gender identity. The fact that Nemo got so many public votes, despite a lot of people hating his NB identity, confirms that people appreciated the song. Anyone who submits a song to national selection process is also thinking about their career in some way. What is cynical about it? BL also submitted the song to Dora - in English - even though it originally just missed out being selected.
Europe loves rock and heavier music, so Rim Tim Tagi Dim was bound to do well, and get to at least the Top 10, regardless of how the Juries voted. In fact, Juries also loved it and scored it high. The year was really strong, and not everyone can win. Winning is not the be all and end all though. Käärijä has a huge career in front of him for coming second (and in his case there was a massive discrepancy between Jury and Public votes, unlike this year where the top artists got good votes from both). It is what it is. Let's listen to our favourites and go and see them live where we can.
AWESOME comment and thank you so much! I could not have said it better myself, literally!! LOL. I do agree, his vocals were good, the performance was pretty awesome but yeah, as you know, still didn't speak to me either.
I was so tense whenIsrael got that high Televote because if they would have won the political turmoil of 2019 would have been dieled up to the point of totally ruining the future of the contest. I was so relieved that they didn't win for that reason only. The song itself was good in my opinion but not a winning song.
I love europapa welkom in Europa jonge ❤❤❤❤
I do as well! Thank You.
Realmente este año fue un poco estresante por la cantidad de información y desinformación que hubo. Luego de que Italia filtrara los resultados del televoto en la segunda semifinal fue como un torbellino y mucha gente se organizo para votar y por eso creo que tantos paises tuvieron tan poco televoto a pesar de ser interpretaciones magnificas.
Particularmente estoy muy satisfecha con que Nemo ganara su capacidad vocal es impresionante y su cancion me gusta mucho. Baby Lasagna no era mi favorito si hubiese ganado también hubiese estado feliz
Todos los artistas dieron lo mejor de si y me quedo con eso porque lamentablemente los aspectos políticos y económicos casi opacan todo el festival. Espero que en el futuro mejoren los errores y podamos tener un festival tan fuerte como este.
Muchas felicidades a ti por tu análisis y éxitos. Saludos desde Latinoamérica
Thank you so much for the comment and explantion. I truly appreciate your input and thoughts on all this and yes, aside of who we (the viewers) wanted to win, I agree with you that some things were just not managed correctly and I also hope they can regain control and manage this a bit better going forward! Greetings.
Nemo was not originally my favourite, but top 5 anyway. It's amazing how good his vocals were, even during all that physical madness on the plate. So, I do think he deserved the win. But about the flag, I was thinking the same thing. I have nothing against the binary flag, but if EBU forbids it to be in the stadium, then Nemo did not only break the code and the trophy, but the rules as well. And much more clearly than Joost. Indeed, I have been a huge Joost fan from the beginning and will remain so, but this is really about consistency and justice. They can't apply one set of rules to one artist or delegation (and yes, everybody knows what I'm talking about, we've seen the harassment in their videos and heard the complaints from some other contestants) and then an entirely other set for others. It's just one big mess that needs to be sorted out so that it will never happen again, unless we like watching drama. Although I must admit that with Joost not being there, I mainly watched the final to see the drama. 🙂
On another note, my top five would also have included Croatia, Norway, and Finland (loved the vocals!).
Yeah his stage performance was great, and I did not mean to say he did not deserve it, as most contestants do, but yeah, we all have our favorites! Thanks for the agreement with the whole rules debate here, I just hope ESC can fix this mess and mitigate anything further going forward. Thanks so much again for the support! Cheers.
As an American I still do not understand why 5 countries automatically make the finals. I know they provide the most financial support, but it still doesn’t seem fair at all. There are countries that didn’t make the finals that were much better than one or two of the automatic qualifiers.
Yeah and I agree, all countries should be clean slate and need to compete to make the finale. I would only argue that the country that won should be automatically in the finale the following year.
The whole contest isn't fair. Rigged juries, paid public voting campaigns, and bought votes were on full display last year and this year, for example. I tell my American friends to stay far away from Eurovision and not get involved with it. The auto qualifiers are only a tiny bit of the unfairness going on.
@@nian60 oh paid campaign. I didn't think about that. 🤔
You don't have to worry at all, the Croatian government didn't want the show because it was too expensive, and Europe didn't want to go to Israel, so neutral Switzerland imposed itself as an excellent solution. Whoever thinks that the only choice here is which song is better than the other is very naive!
There is definitely stuff like that going on behind the scenes, yes.
I think so. I also heard that!
Interesting. Thank you for the input.
Didn’t they establish the jury because the *public* was voting politically? Like, Sweden and Norway giving each other 12 points pretty much every year, regardless of the song and performance.
I really liked Nemo’s song. Don’t think they should’ve been punished for the flag; this was such a big thing for enby folks and I have so many nonbinary friends who feel seen. But Joost should definitely not have been disqualified either; that was messed up. Europapa and The Code are gems that came out of this contest (IMO); can’t wait to check out more. Although ofc nothing will ever beat Love, Love, Peace, Peace 🙏
Yeah I am hearing more and more of that! There seems to be this roller coaster type of game being played, but, all in all I do beleive teh jury should have a play in the contest. They could be the equalizer if they play the equalizer. Good point. Thank You. I appreciate all your thoughts and comments and I learn more and more.
The swiss was a deserving winner. The amount of moving and having to stand on the moving disc without missing a single note. Bare in mind the jury have done their scoring the night before so there may be differences such as fluffed notes between what they see to what the public see.
Yeah I thought that disc was great. Fun performance for sure. Thanks so much for the info and comment. I keep learning so much
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It seems like a reasonable idea that the result should be left up to the people to decide. What could be bad about that, right? It's democracy, right? Many people say this every year, particularly if they favoured a song that did well in the televote and less well in the jury vote. Unfortunately, what everyone who says this doesn't realise is that Eurovision without juries has already been tried. And it was a total disaster.
They did it for several years and what they found happened was it changed the incentives in terms of what kind of songs countries sent. They stopped taking artistic risks. They stopped sending anything remotely creative. Lots of countries started sending lowest-common-denominator novelty songs to try to get the voting public on side. The rest stuck with safe ballads. Those years (in the 2000s - you can look this up) constituted some of the worst years in terms of song quality in Eurovision's history. That's why they brought the juries back. They're needed. The reality is that the public vote is much more political than the jury vote is. Sure, there can be a bit of political voting in some juries, but for the most part, much less than in the public vote. Most juries vote on quality as they perceive it and unlike the public, they have specific categories they're required to score each act on.
And the current balance is about right. 50%-50% works well, and I say that as someone who has occasionally been disappointed that my favourite didn't win because of it. It's still my preferred system, because it incentivises quality.
I'm slightly confused by your take that you never saw Switzerland coming as a dark horse. It wasn't even a dark horse. It was leading the odds several times during the run-up to Eurovision and was never out of the top five. I can only assume you didn't know that and were a little bit uninformed. When I saw Switzerland's performance in the final, I was blown away. Here was an artist who absolutely nailed opera, rap, and a nuanced pop vocal, all while balancing on a rotating disc like a skateboarding champion and carrying the performance completely solo, with no band or dancers and very little in the way of stage dramatics like pyro etc. Just a disc and some excellent lighting. Absolutely phenomenal. I loved Baby Lasagna too, but Nemo was different class in terms of songwriting, lyrics, and performance. A very worthy winner.
Danke ❤ . Meine Meinung❤.
Nemo's Preise:
- Artistic Award (best voice)
- Composer Award (best song: Voting von den Komponisten, die an ESC teilgenommen haben)
- Jury Voting.
BL / Crotia hat den Press Award und Publikum Voting gewonnen.
Übrigens, diese 3 Awards haben oft nichts mit dem Ranking zu tun...
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Hi there. Yeah I did not realize that soem tiem ago teh vote was all public and they brought back the Jury. I am learning so much and I appreciate all the comments and explanations. I recant and from recent history, I do see the value of the jury, I was just looking at the backlast from the last 2 years and came up with what looked liek a problem. And thanks for the Switzerland peice, this was just my personal opnion because certain music resonates with certain people, and to me, I did not think Swticherland was a top contender. That is not discrediting the artist or song, just my thoughts. I know my opinion does not hold weight but everyone has their own perferred taste. Thanks so much for the comment, explanation and understanding. I truly appreciate you checking this out and providing that information!
Joost received only 58 points from the jury. He couldn't possibly win.
I agree some with the politics. (Goes for the Jury and the Public) The Jury also judged vocals, voice and performance! - Something you did not mention..
Switzerland won because of Nemos outstanding performance.
Thank you and I agree. I should have pointed that out better! I appreciate your comment and support!
Thank you for your video and opinions. I don’t wish to sound negative because I like how the ESC is catching the attention of so many of you guys in the US. I do wish, though, that you’d read up a bit on the history of voting. Not that I’m an expert and I agree that some change would be great. But the EBU has experimented with various systems after introducing the publing votes (which is a fairly new phenomenon in the 68 year long history of the ESC). As far as I remember, the jury system was pulled back completely for a number of years but reintroduced simply because it changed the entries in a way which didn’t benefit the contest.
Anyway, I’m not being negative, just I think that it’s important to look at the history of it all and to acknowledge the complexity of it.
As for Israel: Russia and Belarus have been excluded due to their military attitudes toward other nations. This year, Israel is under trial for committing genocide. No conclusion has been made but even having that UN court (I don’t know the English name of it) take on the case shows that it’s serious, so at least it’s valid to question the EBU decision of letting Israel continue. Especially because the main sponsor of the ESC is an Israeli company. I agree, though, that it’s no fault of the contestant, but she did participate with a song which was originally called “October Rain” and has been quite vocal about wanting to join the Israeli army. Also, it has been confirmed that the Israeli government has actively been trying to promote the song and have politicians, etc from other countries publically support them.
In order to avoid “political turmoil” the EBU banned every symbol that could signal support for the Palestinians, yet there are also Palestinian Eurovision fans so many have thought that not being able to show support of that part of the fandom was a too political move of the EBU.
As for Nemo: knowing the criterias the juries have to follow, I’m not surprised that they won. And if Europapa had not been excluded, The Code would probably have won even more because it would have taken public votes from Croatia. That’s just speculation, though, and I feel so sorry for Joost Klein, but he did do somerhing which was severe enough that the Swedish police raised it to be decided in court (not very severe, and I hope that he will not face punishment).
But I agree that Croatia was best. They were my number 1, Norway my number 2. Btw I’m from Denmark and have been watching Eurovision since the 80s 😄
You are not being Negative at all and I love that you explained that to me. Yes, there is a ton of history that I admittedly ignorant on and I am still learning so much. Most of my thought are based on what has been of late, coupled with the thoughts of recent news outlets and comments from the fans and supporters. So I to appreciate your brining all that forward! With that, it does seem EBU is active in mitigating political and personal favoritism and I am glad to hear that and respect their stance. This information will level out my opinion for next year and neutralize my criticism. With that, I was regurgitating what I have read and heard and voiced a lot of peoples opinions. Thanks again!! 🤘🐈MEOW!🐈🤘
@@DaneBramageROCKS Thanks for taking your time to reply :) As I said, I'm no expert myself and I feel that the EBU doesn't always handle stuff too well. But I do appreciate the complexity of it all, especially when it comes to voting. My own conclusion is that claiming to be "non political" is a very political thing to do. But enough about that - it's about the music, and we can enjoy the music even if our favorite song didn't win (Denmark hasn't made it to the finals for ages but then someone else have) :)
@@ZeniaLarsen of course and thanks again. These conversations are great and help us all learn and grow. #unitedbymusic
Nemo deserved to win, some ppl are just bad loosers.glad for professional jury
Isa.. What a bad loser... What are you talking about... He's not a loser because he's 2nd on the charts in various countries and on spotify, they speak for themselves. Certainly not a loser. Bad knowledge, assessment or you don't know what a loser is. Second place is not a loser. Nemo 😴
@@stsplit8973 A lot of people from the Balkans have been very sore losers & have been slagging of Nemo all over the internet ever since they won. Like you do subtlety, by not respecting Nemo's preferred pronouns, but unfortunately many go a lot further by writing absolutely disgusting stuff.
I do have to agree with your last sentence, second place isn't bad. Fans of Ireland, Latvia & Georgia were happy to simply BE in the final to begin with. And for Bambie to get that high a place on the left side of the scoreboard is absolutely incredible. I wish more people would understand it's about participation.
You have a role to play in that, by being happy that BL got the highest place ever for Croatia. By telling your fellow citizens that you should build on this important second place & might get a win as early as next year or in 6 years.(several countries got a win in that time after getting 2d place) But most importantly, to not spread hate about Nemo online.
Thank you.
@@LeafHuntressYou haven't followed the events of these 5 months, so you don't even know who the slanderer is. All the trolls of Italy, Holland, Switzerland BL have slandered his videos and then you expect people not to react. I'm satisfied, as far as I'm concerned, it could have been the last. Because I listen to the only song non-stop. Everything else once and that's enough for me. Tastes are different and I have no objection to that. My only objection is that the juries, like drug addicts, give one country too many number 12. The song is good, but not for such a number 12. I'm watching the 46th Eurovision Song Contest and no one can convince me that everything went well. If any country had received over 15_17x12, it would have said the same. That is simply impossible. And that's the only thing that bothers me about the illogicality. Regardless of the Nemo voice or anything. If BL had received that much, she would have said that other things were involved. Anyone. Abba herself too. As for the insults, ask the youtuber who has been attacking him for 5 months, they block his work, the program, so he had to block them. What did that man experience from the first day because he transmitted his vision and experience to BL. Our Marko, what insults, disparagement, mockery. Is that nice? It's not. So it is not only him who is under attack, but also others. Different reasons maybe, but they are not pleasant or beautiful for anyone. The Balkans and the countries are honey and milk against Western questionable democracy. They are the haters. And now they spread their anger on BL. They come to the BL video, and if you look at the videos of any of the mentioned favorites, there were no people who supported BL and no BL fans came. Maybe a couple of individual. Because we were all exclusively following our favorite like many foreigners and spending time in comments between ourselves and our focus was only BL. As far as that is concerned, I don't agree with you. I wish you all the best.
I agree totally with everything you said, music should never be influenced by politic opinions, cause music is the only language that can bring the world together. I also agree with your top 5, Croatia, Norway, Israel, Svetlania, Armenia and Joost, in whatever order. It's a good thing that this issue is going to court, cause in Sweden you can only make your defence there. after being offended. It's easier to offend than defend so it seems from what I read from someone who lives in Sweden, The truth will come out. Tonight is Joost's first performance after Eurovision in Enschede, international press all over, drones too for security reasons. Hope he'll make a statement, but I know he'll keep cool and do what he does best......Perform
Thank you so much!! I am glad people are also giving their own opinions and thoughts on this result, it is accepted and appreciated. Thanks for the comment and information and I am excited to see how Joost responds!
@@DaneBramageROCKS My personal respond is that I haven''t been a fan of Joost's music, but this song turned me over, blew me away, it touched me. Loved the Israelian song, it touched me, no matter what I personally think of what's going on, the singer can't help it. Hope that people can learn to separate personal issues from Quality choises, no matter what style of music you like......I love them all....Music unites people ❤
@@nefrateetee Thank you so much and this is what it should be about!
Croatia was my favourite until I heard Nemo and then I knew who the deserved winner was. The most original song, vocals, and performance in this year's tough competition and 100% deserved winner. And, if Joost wasn't disqualified he would steal a bunch of the votes from BL. You also have to consider political things with all the rest to know who will win, I have years of experience watching Eurovision, so I am always close with predictions. Germany, Austria, Sweden, oh please.... But, I hope all the composers will hear you and start to create songs that will do it for you, that sounds really important :) BL only benefited in second place, as he said, the trophy is the only difference, and I know his career will skyrocket.
I agree, Baby Lasagna career is already up. He is selling out of shows in minutes! Thanks so much for the input and commenting on this!! I appreciate your incite and opinion!!
I am dying 😂 “the juries are political for voting for Switzerland” 😂
The juries vote for talent and artistic abilities. It’s a song contest not a freak show. The public is drunk before the show even starts and that’s why they vote for village fare songs. That’s exactly why we brought back the juries to stop the madness that the public was leading Eurovision to.
Everybody who follows the show since their childhood knew that Nemo was going to win it. Simply coz pure Talent and everybody with an ear could hear it. Bro you couldn’t get it more twisted 😂😂😂
I know UA-camrs need to follow the clicks but being so delusional and falling for the Eurovision trolls is simply hilarious 😂
Ok. Thanks so much for the comment and checking this out. I would love to think that is what's happening, and this was not anything against Switzerland, it was just my opinion that other entries were better. As for the public, it is world wide so I would also like to think they vote for their favorites. I appreciate the input, cheers.
@@DaneBramageROCKS No, the OP is wrong. 😄 We learnt that last year, if nothing else.
@@DaneBramageROCKS Opinions and taste are one thing and professional music standards are another thing.
Saying that music professionals are political just for doing their job which is to judge based on actual music notes, range, performance, composition and lyrics is simply ignorant and has nothing to do with taste or opinion.
Especially when the public vote is more political than ever, just ask yourself why Israel, Croatia and Ukraine got the highest and almost the exact same amount of public votes. And don’t get me wrong those songs were good but the votes they got were blatantly political, whether that’s a good or a bad thing is up to each person.
@@Iamyouiay I 100% agree and I truly want to believe that the judges give their points solely on the basis of the music. But, there has been proof that judges will shift points to other contestants based on their personal beliefs, political standing or bias. I know what their job it and what they are told to do, but you must know that some will absolutely shift their voting outcomes based on their own personal stance.
@@DaneBramageROCKS juries are human beings too and as Every human they have a kind of bias. But their votes except for Norway make a lot of musical sense.
But thinking that those judges from each single country except Croatia conspired to give Nemo undeserved points for some reason is a nonsense. No music professional from all those countries would risk their reputation, sometimes in very queerphobic countries, to give Switzerland (the country with no friends) points If the talent was not one of a generation.
You might not like Freddie Mercury’s voice or Bowie’s creativity but professionals across the globe have to admit their outstanding talent. That’s just how it works.
The public on the other side …
Juries yes have issues, however the public vote is way more susceptible to (polical) campaigns; as we probably saw in the results.
Israels song was a good song, not way better than like 10 odd other songs. Croatia was popular, but also the protest vote.
I do believe that actually. Personally, I just voted for what I thought were the best songs, regardless of the countries.
@@DaneBramageROCKSGood, very much in the spirit of the post ww ii origin of the contest. Peace and Freedom. Those are the values of the contest, and should not be given up without a fight.
Honestly if IsraHELL is allowed to be in Eurovision then Russia as well
They might not be depending on the verdict of their investigation. We shall see.
Dane to understand better what happened on ESC 2024 you must know one thing about jurries. They are not neceserarly made of members with musical knowledge, most of them dont have anything with music in profesional or private life. Also there are not any rules of how they should vote and what they should take in consider for giving votes like example quality of performance, artistric performance and things like that. I apologize if i writted something wrong, english isnt my first language.
Hi there!! Thank you so much for this knowledge. I did not know this, I always believed they had something to do with the music industry. This helps, thank you!
@@DaneBramageROCKS This is nonsense.
Here from the ESC website:
"Each Jury consists of 5 members (including a chairperson) with a solid musical/artistic background and relevant professional experience (with proven track record) that justifies their appointment (such as singer, musician, composer, author of lyrics, professional in the TV/radio entertainment field, music critic/expert, dancer, or choreographer).
Each juror shall rank all the competing songs in each show from their least favourite to favourite based on the following criteria:
- composition and originality of the song
- quality of the performance on stage
- vocal capacity of the performer(s)
- overall impression of the act"
I checked mine & other countries & this checks out. It has a music station owner, a former contestant, a singer/songwriter & so on. Those former contestants are quite often jury members in later years. Juries vary per year, so you don't get the same jury twice. Did you know that the famous Charles Aznavour was once a member of the French Jury?
As i wrote elsewhere, i do wish the juries would vote less for the English uptempo pop songs, but the members ARE music professionals.
@@LeafHuntress Excellent information and thank you so much for clearing that up. This helps and makes me feel better knowing that.
Joost Klein attending the final probably would've pulled points from Baby lasagna, making Nemo's victory more decisive.
Also I think you are very wrong about the public vote not being political. The jury vote was introduced to combat bloc voting, which was ruining the competition. Although Eden Golan had an amazing performance the public votes towards Israel this year was definitely very political.
You make a great point here! I also agree that the public probably does have some bias, actually they more than likely do. I guess I was basing it on my own way of voting. Thank you so much for the comment!
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Ah, come on, not everything is a conspiracy 11:46 . . .
Also, you are essentially quoting what the dutch team has said, rather than witnesses. Off course they are going to support each other and play it down as they didn't want to get disqualified. They (the dutch team) also said that it was disproportionate and that they had suggested other solutions/because they themselves realized that something had to be done. Otherwise you don't suggest other solutions. Also admittning that something did happen with the word disproportionate. And plot-twist for the reader of this, i would most likely agree completely with the dutch team rather than with the EBU.
Another thing that you seem to have missed is that the women that experienced him (and vice versa) called the police on him. That was 100% the whole problem. That the police became involved, and that it went from being an argument to a real police investigation. Neither one of us that weren't there shouldn't be so quick to say that somebody accused of something didn't do it, just because they themselves say that they didn't. But the opposite of that is equally true. Namely that off course you can't just trust a random women that accuses somebody with something and think he's guilty of something either. But the police getting involved because of her calling them was the whole problem. And the EBU acted like a bunch of 🐈🐈🐈 🐈🐈 as soon as they heard the word police.
Would he/Joost have won? No. He wasn't the top contender in the odds, that was by far Croatia, and the people that liked him also usually like Croatias song (like you), and only 1 song wins. So basically, remove the Netherlands from the contest and that increases Croatias number of votes and include the Netherlands and both Croatia and the Netherlands loses votes to each other.
By the way. I'm inclined to believe that the journalist/women probably was an asshole. There is, so to speak, a grey scale between being a serious worthy journalist and a paparazzi/pest. And i would guess that she was closer to the latter. But that is obviously a complete guess, cause newsflash, none of us know. The pest just as easily could have been Joost.
Hi there! Yeah I am not one to also assume that Joost is completely innocent, I guess in my time of gathering all of this, it just seemed ESC was in a bad way, with everything happening with the Israel media teams, kicking off contestant, people bringing stuff in that was banned, all the back stage arguments and comments between contestants, there was just a ton of info to digest but reading all the comments and other people facts and/or perspectives did help us understand more of all the stories. So I appreciaure you sharing your as well! Either way, I will continue to support and watch and enjoy the ESC and bring content as I ahve, but, keep an open mind as well! Totally here for it! Thanks again and I thanks for checking this out!
@@DaneBramageROCKS I hope you will, because i keep coming back to your channel. It's, so to speak, a good hangout over the drama/and fun that is the ESC. Whoever needs docusoapes when we have the ESC, haha. Cheers.
@@remember-when-in-doubt... Awesome, Thank you and AGREED!! Cheers.
Europapa should have won. And i'm not just sayin this because i'm Dutch. It really really was the best song. Hands down.
I think it would have changed the outcome significantly.
Thank you for your warm words for Israel and Eden Golan, I loved your video, interesting insights 💙🤍🇺🇸🇮🇱
Thank you so much. 🙏🏻🇮🇱❤️
You’re one of the best UA-camrs on my books. As an American, I’ve watched videos of young people raising flags in protest, yet they often lack clarity about the cause they’re rallying against. It’s disheartening that these individuals don’t invest time in understanding the issues before taking to the streets and causing chaos. Recently, I delved into the situation in Israel and Gaza, and it’s undeniably tragic for innocent people on both sides. Some reports indicate that over 60% of Palestinians voted in favor of the Hamas organization, effectively sidelining the opposition party advocating for peace with Israel. Additionally, it’s crucial to recognize that, similar to Ukraine, Israel faced attacks. During the Hamas offensive, hundreds of innocent civilians lost their lives or were abducted. My empathy extends to the civilians in Gaza, but I also feel for the victims in Israel.” 🌍🕊️
@@KevinWWSP oh wow! Thank you so much. I sometimes feel like I have no idea what I am talking about (and sometimes that's true 😂😳) but I always speak truth, as long as I know it. But it's true, so many people rally, argue and protest and have no idea what they are doing it for. Thanks so much for the support and understanding and I love that you are here! Thanks also for the comment
Baby Lasagne was good but Nemo was amazing! So my opinion is that right song and performer won❣️
Awesome!! I am glad to hear that and thank you for commenting!
Of course Switzerland won; it's neutral country. Nobody's political panties will get any more in a bunch. AND Nemo was exquisite. They broke the code. i am with you on every song! It's like you're in my head.
LOL, glad we see it the same!
Croatia should not win and don't wants to win. Because the winner hosts the next year Festival in their country and this is very expensive. But it's not too expensive for a country like switzerland. So switzerland is chosen this year.
That is an excellent point. Thank you! But I believe they wanted to win and should have.
This is the most stupid comment I ever saw on internet, Meow from Croatia.
That's not true. Croatia wanted to win. The appointment at the Arena Zagreb for next year's Eurosong was even saved.
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Who wants to pay this festival in Zagreb ?
The croatian television?
Economic benefits would have vastly outweighed the cost.
Eurovision is not a Rocksong contest
Correct.
Cassio.. That shouldn't be the rule. Nowhere does it say the genre of the festival as mandatory. He never was. There was everything, pop, rock, heavy metal, now a mix of genres, rap. Why wouldn't it be for rock songs. That's why voting like this happens because they think ESC is just pop music. Well, it is not and should not be exclusively in the pop genre.
@@stsplit8973 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I absolutely agree with you. I think nemo was at least a top ten but not #1. I loved rim tim tagi dim and I think Baby Lasagna was robbed. I also agree with you about ireland. I am a born again christian and I do not like that satanic performance.
Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching this and giving your feedback! 🤘Keep on Rockin'🤘
@@DaneBramageROCKS Ireland's performance was based on the PAGAN history of the island.
That uninformed christians, who base their ideas about heaven, hell & the devil mainly on a book written in the early modern age, see satanism everywhere is their problem. Not that of those who put on an excellent performance.
Ireland is where Halloween comes from. So of course it can get spooky. What's the problem with that, loads of people enjoy watching horror films.(not me) But it had Ogham, the ancient Irish script, traditional dancing shoes, the feathered costume was like the Morrigan, an ancient goddess, there were runes etc. etc.
Bambie banished a demon, what more could you want?
@@LeafHuntress In interviews given out by Robinson, Robinson claims the song is about heartbreak, deception and the pain of unrequited love, describing it as "explosive" and "hard-hitting" but also "sweet" and "soulful".....en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Blue
First off I think your reactions to all the events which were happening in Malmo was outstanding. Okay now onto the actual events. If you are at Eurovision and you pose for a photo, the expectation is that that photo will be seen in public. Kaarja has every right to ask for the photo to be taken down, but he obviously posed for it and it was only when it became public, and he was obviously thinking about his public image that he asked for it to be taken down and refused to give the jury votes for Finland. This to me makes Kaarja look bad as he is trying to publicly be someone who he thinks will be better received, but is not himself. The fact that the Israeli delegation was seen taking photos and uploading them without people's permission is a mute point because that has happened at every contest and no one has been bothered about it before this year, for some reason, which we all know, but are not allowed to say for fear of being tagged one thing or another. Three, the artists such as Bambie Thug, that overgrown child from Greece and others saying that they performed under immense pressure pales into insignificance, when the young lady from the nation whose name shall not be spoken, had death threats as well as 12,000 hate filled criminals standing outside her hotel room. That is real pressure, surely she must have thought for a second that when she walked out onto that stage there may have been some hate filled idiot in that arena who had a gun and may have used it, egged on by the despicable behaviour from fellow contestants, who would have had blood on their hands if that scenario had happened. And finally Sweden is one nation who takes domestic violence and violence against women seriously as they have some of the most stringent laws regarding this (just ask Julian Assange), so any behaviour towards females which is considered violent or threatening is taken extremely seriously and I say good on them. From what I have heard Joost did nothing wrong, but in that country he could be in some legal trouble. If there is vision of what I have heard happened, he will go close to jail time but maybe just a fine and a ban from entering Sweden. However any act who does behave badly should be excluded from the contest, I do not care who they are (and for the record Europapa was my favorite for this year, although with the staging he had in the semi final no way does he win and I think he does it tough to make the top 5 because the live staging had none of the comedic and poignant power of the music video). Just on the music, for me I had both Serbia and Norway in my top five so I was surprised they did not finish higher and while there were some surprises for me Bambie Thug and Germany were shocks. Bambie Thug's staging was one of the best live performances I have seen in Eurovision but like you, that genre of music is not my taste and she (that is the proper noun) is such a hate filled person that we do not need people like her ruining what Eurovision is supposed to be, a song contest. Germany is just a generic mainstream pop song and I think he got some of the votes from the traditional family viewers who watched a devil worshipper (nothing wrong with a bit of satanic symbolism but we do not want it thrust down our throats), a guy from England who must have thought he was in his own private sex dungeon doing a pre-intercourse erotic tease for his friends that were present, and a guy from Finland who is the 2024 version of Benny Hill. I have a sneaking suspicion that the minority groups who love Eurovision want the casual fans to go away and just let them have their own event, and if things keep going the way they went this year then that will be the case by 2034 because more nations will not enter, the big 5 will say it is not worth financing and contests such as Melodifestival and San Remo will become the more popular events because they are still about the music and not what cause or issue is trendy this year.
Thsnk you so much!! I had a blast reacting this time around, super fun submissions and wonderful talent. More than I could get to!! With that, I agree about Kaarja. I wanted so bad for this just to be him having fun with another contestant and let it go, but yes, with all the controversy this year, I understand his position but should just have kept it neutral. Also, 100% Agree on Ireland and Eden...nothing more to be said LOL! I want to thank you for wathving this and commenting! I love hearing all the feedback and opinions. Not everyone has the same one and favored the same songs preperformances but this is why this contest is AWESOME. Thanks so much for the support!
I did not have any love for Klein, verbally assulting a stage crew member lika a spoiled dive is not ok. The stage crew work 99% more then the artists during th ESC.
There is so much different explanations of what happened. Seems it may have gotten more out of control than it should have.
The juries are just a bunch of cowardly hypocrites who know their names are being published and are trembling in fear of the Muslims and the toxic fandom. If they had behaved professionally and not with fear and hypocrisy They wouldn't give zero points to Israel for Eden's phenomenal live performance that was done under terrible conditions that she was the only one who had to deal with it in all her rehearsals and performances in this year's competition, and given so many Douze points to Switzerland. They did it on purpose so that Israel wouldn't win and also fucked Croatia out. And as for Joost, From what I understood the Swedish photographer filed a complaint against him to the police and that's why the production had to remove him from the competition, because once it goes to the police it's become criminal case. The problem is that no one knows what really happened there.
Interesting. So one reporter went to the police, probably knowing it would kick him out. Not cool. I heard that he just lowered her phone, no aggression
@@DaneBramageROCKS it wasn't a reporter, it was a photographer woman from the swedish production
@@Tubered did I say reporter? Dang it.