Monighan 4-W Documentary
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- PA gives a tour of a vintage 1928 Monighan 4-W dragline. Like learning about old iron? Then join today to catch all the mining equipment history!
Chapter List:
00:00 Introduction History
01:31 Martinson walking system
03:10 Boom/ Bucket Options
05:27 Cab/ Controls
08:06 Engine/ Power
09:19 Fuel Capacity
10:32 Countershaft/ Cooling
11:14 Weight/ Bucyrus Acquisition
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This may be the coolest machine you've ever shown. This thing needs to go in a museum.
It would be easier to put a museum in it😂
Litterally go...
^^Hahaha! For real!
There are 2 similar dredges in Torch lake, in the keweenaw peninsula that are very similar.. One is all the way sunk, one you can climb on...
Industrial America.....
These days with our infernal “computer-run” society, I feel we often under-appreciate how clever and innovative the “old-timers” were in their day. Imagine building the casting sand moulds for all those iron components! Master carpenters at work! And no welding, rivets all the way!
Things were makes better back in the old days. Took more than a computer, a good human brain to make it work
The riveted fuel tanks look awesome!
Carpenters build houses, they were pattern makers. In order of skill, and pay, it's carpenter, cabinet maker, pattern maker. Whenever you see vintage tools, if it says pattern makers on it, it's the highest quality most precise version of that tool.
@@bigredc222 I stand corrected. Well, actually I’m sitting down at the moment. 😅
@@tomrogers9467 3D printers will eliminate that job.
Would love to know when she pulled her last bucket and when it was parked there. Amazing this machine has evaded the scrap man for nearly 100 years. Incredible piece of history and American innovation sitting there. Awesome video!
From what I was told by the owner, she last dug during the 1980s. Thank you!
What an amazing find Justin. A real museum piece. Hopefully this is on private property and is semi secure from the scrapers.?? Thanks for posting this.
Wow, nearly 100 years old...
Well done PA. What a find 👍👍👍
Thank you! But if it's older you seak them check out my video of the Atlantic Class railroad shovel from 1904! 😁
They used to have a walking Manitowoc in the gravel pit at Route 25 & Route 72 in Carpentervilles IL behind the cemetery! It had a 12 yard gravel bucket on it! That machine was a beast! Fished & Hunted that pit for years as a kid, I never saw the Crane move but watch dig a lake deeper then cut a drainage area to drain the shallower lake into the deeper one and move that drag line into that lake area and start digging the gravel to be dumped into big earth mover trucks and dumped and be processed through the shaker to separate the rock! It would take it a year or two to work that area then move the water again and start a new dig! On a Sunday while fishing I walked into bucket you could fit to full size pickup trucks side by each as the Newfees would say! It had drainage holes about 4" in diameter! And had two gigantic shoes it would move on!
That's awesome 😎 thanks for sharing that!
Would be awesome to see this piece of history fully restored and operating on special accations !!!
Thats got to be the coolest machine youve documented Justin. To have survived almost a hundred years and still look complete is incredible. I thought you might mention that it looks like it has a form of air controls with the valves and plumbing in front of the operator which is quite surprising to see. It looks like a Ford flathead V8 that runs the compressor to the left of the main engine. Great find Justin and thanks for posting!
I spotted the flattie and it looks like a 1937 V8 60 .Quite a rare engine .
Haha! Glad you enjoyed it! Everything about thos old girl was just awesome 😎
That Ole cat loader has some good rubber looks like
Every fact reported in this video is jaw-dropping. Thank you.
Man I love it when you dig up the really old stuff. It’s amazing this one has evaded a scrap torch this long. Hopefully it’s in private hands so it’s relatively safe? Really wouldn’t be to hard to at least do a cosmetic restoration. Once you take the sheet metal off the house there really ain’t nothing to those old draglines. Was that a little flathead V8 sitting in the corner by the air tanks? I’m guessing to run the compressor? It was amazing to see air piloted control on a machine of that age. That would have been really cutting edge technology for the time.
I agree, that needs saved some how. I am guessing that’s the only one left that’s complete .
❤ I love it . I also seen a few other goodies sitting around there.
😃😎 Haha, glad you enjoyed it! This machine is privately owned so that is why she's still around. Last operated in the 80s from my understanding. They are very simple machines and lasted forever. That is a Ford V8 but I'm not sure what it's purpose was. Thanks!
It should be restored. It would be great to see it in operation.
Maybe @Dieselcreek could handle it, "slightly larger" than the things he normally tackles...
Sadly to move it to say the National Pike steam show location or anywhere else would mean taking it apart in a number of truck loads ,that would take deep pockets and lots of hands , machinery and time at both ends , not counting how many years to restore
It would be awesome if it were saved and restored .
@@lancecluster😎
@@DieselCreek although this could provide material for a zillion videos, I like your current approach, lots of machines, episode or two on each and off to the next one. Always a fun watch. The colabs with Scrappy are great too.
@@DieselCreekyou think you could do it?
As a operator of big, modern heavy equipment, it’s very interesting to see this old iron!
Great content as always👍
As always, glad to hear you enjoyed it 😁
Very cool find! So complete! Looks like lota good stuff there. Thank you
The fact the machine house is so large really hit home when you showed the FM 32 triple.
Wow!
Haha, how about it! That engine reminded of of something you'd see in an old power plant or mill. Thanks!
Yes! Somewhere around 30-50,000 pounds for the engine itself!
Awesome piece of history.
THAT is WILD! And an air rig at that with a F/M powerplant. AND looked like a couple of 988's to boot. PAR-excellent, Pal! Happy New Year and a God Blesses One indeed!
Haha, thanks happy new year to you too!
This is your best video yet! Excellent machine. Interesting history. Well done!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it and Happy New Year!
Pretty cool to see such an old machine still standing. Happy New Year buddy!
Thanks, you too!
WoW awesome video!!! My grandfather owned a huge dragline in the 80’s-90’s mining coal central PA, I began a career on tugboats NY harbor in 2001 doing a lot of construction type work there are a few old cranes that were steam converted to air compressor driven built in the early 1900’s. I’m pretty sure that ole girl isn’t dead if the stacks were covered.
I’ve worked on old tugboats from the 40’s with Fairbanks engines and never seen an old one like that absolutely amazing piece of history. Lots of old draglines like my grandfather’s get sent to a new home on barges as dredges or as cranes. Many old machines are still in operation it’s amazing what can be found around coastal ports.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing that. The engine was definitely my feature of the machine. Reminded me of something you'd see in a big old industrial power plant or mill. Thanks!
Three cylinder Fairbanks thumper! The three bangers of that series made the most noise.. doughnut ring smoke puffer what a sight and sound to see that thing in action. The loader needs attention too!
WOW! That was really interesting! Hope they save that thing or put it in a museum! Thank you for such a great tour.
I hope so too! Thanks and glad you enjoyed it!
Every so often youtube suggests something worth watching. Great video. Thanks!
Well thank you! Glad you found the channel and enjoyed the video!
Wow, that was a classic! Thanks.
beautiful and very interesting and rare machine !
It's a building
that walks
and digs dirt
not three things you would ever think you could combine together, but here we are
awesome stuff
Great video. Excellent explanation, slow camera movement, knowledgeable commentary. Very enjoyable. Thank You,
You are welcome! 😎 Glad you enjoyed it!
Just doesn’t get much better than this. Happy New Year Justin and thanks for another great year.
Haha!! You're welcome. Happy new year to you as well buddy!
Thank you, Sir, for taking the time to make this video!! A Safe and Healthy New Year to you, and your family!!
Why thank you friend! The same to you and your family as well :)
Great, interesting video. The narrator always does a fine job and has a voice and inflections that hold your interest. This has to be a very rare old machine. It would be fun to get that engine running again, but probably expensive. Thanks, PAmining.
Thank you very much! 😃
@@PAmining You're welcome. Keep up the good work.
Another amazing piece of old machinery to bring to view.
Your walk-arounds, history lessons and videography just go together like "peas and carrots" over mashed potatoes... LoL
Thanks again for sharing with us.
😁😃 well that's an interesting comparison! Haha, but than you I appreciate it and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@PAmining
Always looking forward to new ccontent from your channel.
Thank you for the tour !! Great video !!
Your welcome :) glad you enjoyed it!
Wow what a find amazing it’s still around and so complete to, there a a few FB morse two stokes on the show circuit and some permanent installations in your country but I have never seen one here in the UK . happy new year to you
I've watched some videos on YT of restored ones working. That engine was my favorite part of the machine. Just old school cool. It reminded me of what you'd see in an old steel mill. Happy new year!
just found this channel wow facinating! the engineers in the days where next level
Welcome! 😃 There's many videos like this on other old pieces of equipment. Thanks!
Amazing....especially that only eight were ever built. tHank you for the video. Happy New Year to all!
Glad you liked it 😀 Happy new year!
You put a tremendous amount of energy and passion into these videos. Have a blessed '24
Haha, thank you I appreciate that! I've loved big equipment since I was a kid. Happy new year!
Excellent tour, thank you. Never knew this machine existed
You're welcome 😁 Glad you enjoyed it!
Can’t believe there’s still this stuff laying around!
Quite a collection of old iron sitting around there nice.
I love industrial relics like this. Great delivery with the narration. Often those that are into this sort of thing don’t produce watchable content. This entertains.(first time viewer)
Thank you I appreciate that! I like to know what I'm talking about when I deliver a presentation.
Great videos as always. Thank you!
My pleasure!
VERY COOL!
A shame it's been let go.
Thank you for sharing! Anxiously awaiting the next 1!
Happy new year!
Haha yes! Same to you!
This is needs to be restored and put into a museum! This is a huge peice of our history right here! If it wasnt for this we wouldn't be where were at today!
I hate to pay the fuel bill, but i would pay half a tank just to see it run one time!
Wow! That was really interesting.
What a beautiful video. Thank You Thank You for sharing this video with us.
You're very welcome :)
Very impressive piece of history. Could build a steam power show around that itself.
Thanks for the video! I grew up with cranes, Dad bought a new Shield Bantam cable hoe in 1958!!
That's cool man! Thanks for sharing!
That's a very amazing bit of history would love to see that fully restored
I agree and I'm glad you learned something from it!
Its beautiful, reminds me of my Hikitia days. This dragline needs to be preserved
Man, it would be awesome to hear that old Ferry run. I'll bet it has a wonderful sound.
If you search Fairbanks Morse 32, you'll find some videos of restored 4 cylinder models working. Very cool sound!
I’m betting it was nice and warm in there during the dog days of summer 🥵 along with extremely loud. All of the sounds bouncing off the plate walls like a giant echo chamber. Yeah I would be willing to bet after 8,10, or 12 hours in the seat of this beast a man was ready to go home to someplace quiet, or you couldn’t hear anything like me.
You’re knowledge and enthusiasm is really refreshing. Thank you.
That was the era! No comfort either! Thanks and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Outstanding video!
Thank you very much! 😁
8:05 he steals the words right out of my mouth. About thirty seconds earlier, when it first came into view, I might’ve had hearts in my eyes.
Haha!! How about it! 😁 Definitely the coolest part of the machine for me! Thanks
Very cool very old Dragline great video.Had to be very noisy inside for the operator.A lot of history.Thanks for sharing Justin.Keep up the great videos.Thanks
You're welcome buddy! Thanks the view and glad you enjoyed it :) Happy new year!
Love the narration 👍
Thanks you! Hope I explained everything well enough!
@@PAmining In full detail ! Thanks for making these great videos 👍💯
Superb video!! How do you keep coming up with these historic gems?? How were they not scrapped??
I was wondering the same thing.
Haha, I guess it's just what I do 😁
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Great find! The Melbourne Steam Traction Engine club in Australia, has a restored, operational Ransome Rapier walking dragline. Recovered from a power station coal mine. I've seen it operating a few times. There are some videos about it on you tube, and the MSTEC web site.
Very cool, thanks for sharing that!
This machine was made the same year my dad was born. To think of the technology of that day, and where we are today. Thank you!
Amazing isn't it. Thank you!
Awesome video.
In middle 30s my Dad saw one of these hauled in by train ,6 months assembly and promptly stuck ..4 months later in dead of summer walked it out and dug a 10 mile long channel 75' deep and 200' wide .Grease truck drove in bucket on one side with driver holding brakes and dragline pick it up and swung to other side set it down and truck drove away .When finished was disassembled loaded on ship and torpedoed on its way to UK at start of WW2 and lost in the Atlantic.
Awsome machine Pa thanks for sharing
You bet! Thanks for watching!
I may be completely wrong. But there looked to be a pot belly stove in there. Was that to keep the room warm to start the engine more easily in cold weather?
And serving tea to the operator in the depths of the Minnesota winter.
This Beutiful Machine Needs To Be Preserved ❤
amazing survivor! get it and the old truck into a museum quick!
Supercool video!!! What a beuty of a machine it is!!!!
Thank you very much!
Back when the house of a machine was literally a house!
Really great video thanks!
I would love to see the things run ❤
Wow that is amazing. It's in great shape considering it's age. I bet those trees weren't there when it was last run and parked there. I like how they parked the loader behind it so scrappers can't steal it (:
Great find
A similar machine dug a large river diversions channel here in northern MN. I have pictures of it being assembled at the site. I believe it took 20 plus rail cars to deliver it.
I always enjoy your videos
Thank you! 😁
Great video
I think you should get volunteers to restore that old gem! I would be happy to help as much as possible!
Incredible piece of innovative engineering! I am supporting the nuclear equipment designed in1965. When I ask the component manufacturer to provide me a replacement, everyone states that the component cannot be operated in a mode I ask. However, the component is in service for 65 years with extremely low failure rate. There is no chance for real inventions in our era of idiots.
I have to agree with you lol. I see it everyday at work
Please do more videos at the 4W site. Thank you great video
Wow that looks like it could function again
Awesome machine .Where did you find this one.
Was this machine part of a larger collection? I see several other units in the foreground of the video that look like they could use a documentary that only you could provide! Thanks again for showing us around this gem and Happy New Year!
Yes it was but this was definitely the highlight of the find! Glad you enjoyed it and Happy New Year to you as well!
Thats very cool. And a amazing survivor. I have seen the 2 cylinder Fairbanks and Morris before. Running. On a trailer idling outside . I cant imagine how noisy that must have been enclosed with everything else.
Very nosy! But it was the 20s! Thanks
This never gets old. I'll make it into a mobile Hunting cabin❤
Love this!, those fairbanks morris engines I believe turned at a very low RPM and lasted forever, I bet th engine would still run today. How much $$$ and time would it take to get this machine back to running? can you imagine the noise level and HEAT inside of there say on a 100 degree day?? a operator would be deaf and suffer heat stroke within a day being in there on a 100 degree day. why did they give zero attention to operator safety and comfort on machines back then? didnt they realise operator comfort and safety would mean more productivity??
I’m trying to figure out that engine. No valve train at the cylinder heads, were they two-stroke with ports? But I didn’t see a blower either. Way too early engine for those, I imagine. Guess I need to do some research.
@@tomrogers9467 Yes 2 stroke. The inlets are in those doors on the crank case .
My guess is the operator would feel priveleged to not be using a shovel or lifting sacks by hand
@@Mercmad Thanks. Guess it was the grand daddy to the famous ‘71 Detroits! Bet it was quieter, though!
A truthful point! Back then men were happy to have evolved out of using shovels to big earthmovers. I don't think comfort was a major thought
Good video thanks very much enjoyed it 😊
You're welcome! :)
That needs to be persevered as mining history.
What a fantastic machine!
Just incredible love it
Awesome 👍😊
Watch " the big squeak" a video in PA mine where a big Dragline falls into open pit and they recover it .
Amazing they had everything in Pennsylvania hooked on cables to pulley to flip it back up .
PS the HCEA should see this .
May restore it.
Nice! Maybe Matt over at Diesel Creek should try getting her running!!
Nice to know what the engine that ran the air compressor was, lovely film thank you, we haven't any machines that big back here in England
Many thanks! I'm pretty sure the English coal industry has a bunch of big draglines back in the day
@@PAmining Yes i'm sure you're right, but England being a very small country compared to America there is less chance of finding anything so old and big as this still surviving, that's not to say there isn't something like this somewhere in the UK,, many thanks
Around 1979 I moved a Buycrus Monhan east of Pittsburgh. I don’t remember who the customer was but he had one still digging and bought the one we moved for parts. At the time I worked for Falcon Crane and Rigging. I had pictures of it but lost them over the years. If I’m not mistaken the serial number on the machine was 626.
Wow that's interesting! Thanks for sharing that. I can definitely have that serial number looked up to see what machine it was
@@PAmining I found a picture of the Bucyrus-Monaghan I moved. Trying to post a picture but can’t figure out how
Theres a dredging barge very similar to this at the Napa Valley Marina in Napa Ca, it was used to dig out the marina in 57 . It has a IH diesel in it that starts on gas then switches over when you move the lever that disengages the valve train feeding the cyl head. The interior looks like this 4-W complete with a big glass pickle jar on the wall so you can see the mud samples. There was also a drag bucket there on tracks that I got fired up and moving for them after it sat for many years. That was around 2005. Both of those were very cool and I could visualise someone from OSHA going into the dredge , he probably would have nutted up with all those open gears and things spinning away. Same with the drag line. Sitting in the operator seat there must have been at least 20 leavers all around you with no identification about what they do. LOL
Haha that's awesome. Believe it or not though, if you were to upgrade this machine with guards over the moving components and isolate the cab to meet noise requirements, guaranteed you could still run this machine today
@@PAmining Thanks for the reply I dont doubt that, as long as water doesnt get into the engine its not that big a deal to get them going again and with a grease fitting on everything that moves so it will last. Have a good New Year. Cheers
Same to you man!
Awesome thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful machine
That was great!
That needs to be saved and made run again
Terrific find.. Cutting edge technology then..
She needs restored ! Well done documentary !
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Looks like there was a separate V-8 engine in it or was that an air compressor? And what looks to be a wood stove for heat? The other controls were operated on compressed air, hence all the metal piping? Thanks for the video!
that was pretty cool were the air tanks used for starting? cannot remember FM setup from back then.
Yes, they were started by compressed air injected into the cylinders.
Air was also used for operation of the clutches and brakes on the drums.
Thanks for the very informative video. Question, Was the compressed air tank used to start the motor? If not, what was its function?
So the Fairbanks Morse 32 series used a unique backflow on the upstroke of the piston where air is pulled into the crankcase and is then compressed on the downstroke. The compressed air then forces the exhaust out of the chamber. This method required no camshaft operated valves in the cylinder head. Thanks!
One comment said the machine needs to be in a museum. Heck, it is a museum!
Great video pretty cool that it hasn't been scrapped or Vandalised those old Engies are great probably wouldn't take much to fire up?
I'm willing to bet that old girl wouldn't be to hard to get running again. All simple mechanical components