Case-hardening HUGE 2 Ton Gear with Automatized Heat Treating Facility

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  • Case-hardening HUGE 2 Ton Gear with Automatized Heat Treating Facility and also machining of the part with huge cnc milling machine and huge cnc vertical lathe. Thanks to ATA Gears for letting us film this project www.atagears.fi The gear is going to be used on a gear box for large gas turbine.
    Link to giant gear video mentioned • Machining HUGE 10 Ton ...

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  • @Beyondthepress
    @Beyondthepress  3 роки тому +25

    Here is the link to the giant gear video that I mentioned ua-cam.com/video/L9QyAXxKvaM/v-deo.html

    • @Phillijr100
      @Phillijr100 3 роки тому

      What are gears ⚙️ this big used for or used in/on?

    • @xroqus
      @xroqus 3 роки тому

      In a world of hurt...15 minutes of wonder. So happy.

    • @WoodworkerDon
      @WoodworkerDon 3 роки тому

      @@Phillijr100 power plants, large industrial factories, large ships, etc.

    • @per.kallberg
      @per.kallberg 3 роки тому +2

      That was an exceptionally good video. Give some compliments to your friend!

    • @SumUnicus
      @SumUnicus 2 роки тому

      So... The Nitrogen will actually work as a protection gas?
      We use nitrogen as protection gas in ours bell oven annealings when we softening coils from our cold roll mill.
      Ohh... And in some of the ovens we use hydrogen as protection gas.

  • @ivanmac89
    @ivanmac89 3 роки тому +412

    I know they probably don't get as many views, but these machining and metallurgy videos are excellent, especially in 4K!

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed! These are as good as the explosive videos.... and I

    • @Vinlaell
      @Vinlaell 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks to subscribing to this channel a while back I've been getting so many videos like that and since I'm a hobbyist machinist I love them

    • @WoodworkerDon
      @WoodworkerDon 3 роки тому +7

      Some of this type of videos Lauri has posted on BTP have several hundred thousand views. They tend to do very well, even if it takes a while to build up the view count. They always tend to have very supportive comments too.

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus 3 роки тому +1

      You also never know who might be inspired to learn more about it or even enter the career as a result of watching these videos!

    • @Vinlaell
      @Vinlaell 3 роки тому +3

      @@Ultimaximus a few months ago I got into lock picking by watching LockPickingLawyer LockNoob and BosnianBill and then because I wanted to make my own lock picks especially the detainer pics I decided to get a lathe and then I went all out and got a mill too 😁 nearly forgot about picks but I love the machines

  • @clambino7980
    @clambino7980 3 роки тому +169

    Dude was great. He should be proud of what he designed.

    • @Beyondthepress
      @Beyondthepress  3 роки тому +32

      Yep Tami was really good on explaining how this works

    • @tampuriini87
      @tampuriini87 3 роки тому +54

      Thanks, this comment made my day!

    • @tampuriini87
      @tampuriini87 3 роки тому +2

      @NVD DVN Thanks!

  • @howa08
    @howa08 3 роки тому +68

    I'm only 4 minutes in but I already am incredibly impressed with the thoroughness of this guy's knowledge and ability to explain everything.

    • @carpediemarts705
      @carpediemarts705 3 роки тому +8

      And in perfect English.

    • @Taizunx
      @Taizunx 3 роки тому +1

      I guess that's why he ended up becoming the sales director of the company :P

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 2 роки тому

      @@Taizunx What a waste!

  • @OldMan_PJ
    @OldMan_PJ 3 роки тому +63

    I worked in a steel heat treatment plant in the US and it's shocking how much cleaner and better lit the Finnish plant is.

    • @jonanderson5137
      @jonanderson5137 3 роки тому +26

      I worked in one last week, my end if the day shower looked like ink was being washed off.
      The lighting, but I noticed the floor too!
      There might be some nice ones. I've been in machine shops covered in cutting fluid and chips, dirty, poorly lit hellholes. I've been in machine shops that are similar to the heat treatment shown in this video. Well lit and clean.
      I have a theory that involves plant management ...

    • @scorchedearth1451
      @scorchedearth1451 3 роки тому +4

      I think it depends on the age of the plant.
      I've been in an old German plant.
      You could see the building style was 50+ years old, and you could shovel wheel barrels full of dust each day.

    • @connorcampbell5274
      @connorcampbell5274 2 роки тому +2

      @@jonanderson5137 Or unions that actually do something instead of just take your money...
      Honestly I think it's more a matter of the age of these facilities, though. And maybe the culture surrounding them. Everything in Finland is disturbingly clean. It's near liminal space sort of clean.

    • @jonanderson5137
      @jonanderson5137 2 роки тому +3

      @@scorchedearth1451 I've been in old buildings where the timber is about 2x4, not stick 2x4, I mean 2 feet by 4 feet and the columns were 4x4. Clean. Machine shop.
      Age has absolutely no affect on good shop practices. Management has to decide if they want giant bonuses or just bonuses. You have to maintain and service dust collection, all the HVAC etc.
      This is basic stuff.

    • @McSlobo
      @McSlobo 2 роки тому +1

      Well, looking at the exhaust soot from that quenching tank it's obvious the soot will accumulate on surfaces and some of it will stick there as time passes. I wondered why there was no some sort of ventilation hood on top of that sucking the exhaust away but I guess the answer is cost.

  • @kevosims2012
    @kevosims2012 3 роки тому +66

    I really admire Finland for focusing education on trade skills.

    • @jamesharding3459
      @jamesharding3459 3 роки тому +28

      This stuff is closer to material science engineering than trades, something you learn at a proper university rather than a trade school.

    • @kevosims2012
      @kevosims2012 3 роки тому +2

      That makes sense.

    • @Beyondthepress
      @Beyondthepress  3 роки тому +23

      @@jamesharding3459 Yep you learn this kind of stuff at Tampere University of Technology

  • @CrimePony
    @CrimePony 3 роки тому +7

    Holy shit, you guys speak such good english. Technical and articulate! I. Love. These. Channels!

  • @WoodworkerDon
    @WoodworkerDon 3 роки тому +34

    You were right. It IS the nicest heat treatment plant I have ever seen.
    ........
    While it may be the only one I've ever seen, it truly is the nicest. :)

  • @geckoproductions4128
    @geckoproductions4128 3 роки тому +74

    Well done. Excellent presentation. Interesting and instructive. A person't understanding of a topic is manifest in their ability to explain it.

  • @fanofactionflicks
    @fanofactionflicks 3 роки тому +9

    your friend saying "hello" gave me a chuckle as it reminded me of anni.

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 3 роки тому +1

      Ive been really hoping someday one of his guests would say "And Im Anni" 😂😂😂

  • @specialk314
    @specialk314 3 роки тому +37

    Love some giant engineering stuff. Also these dudes explaining something in their non native tongue better than I could as native english speaker lol

    • @McSlobo
      @McSlobo 2 роки тому

      He was a some sort of sales manager and as Finland is such a tiny country we must be able to sell our stuff to foreigners. So, you have no business if you don't know at least English these days. For Finnish businesses Germany is also a big market so English is not the only language people learn.

  • @Joel-st5uw
    @Joel-st5uw 3 роки тому +23

    Wow, that guy explained things so well. This is actually one of my favorite BTP vids, so interesting. Pretty good!

    • @tampuriini87
      @tampuriini87 3 роки тому +4

      Thanks!

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal 3 роки тому +10

      @@tampuriini87 Mate, you were more interesting, informative and eloquent in a second language than most people manage in their native tongue. (Particularly native English speakers.)
      Take a bow, you did a difficult job extremely well!

    • @tampuriini87
      @tampuriini87 3 роки тому

      @@DrBunnyMedicinal Thank you, very kind compliments!

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 3 роки тому +8

    I know these videos are not as popular, but I really enjoy them.

  • @Wingnut_Stickman
    @Wingnut_Stickman 3 роки тому +4

    It is like a "how it's made" for stuff you didn't know existed. Very interesting.

  • @lamegame420
    @lamegame420 3 роки тому +15

    Can we take a minute to appreciate how clean this facility is? Considering the work being done, it is remarkable how even the ceiling is clean. That speaks volumes about the safety standards of the company that runs this facility. If this was "made in china" there would be an inch thick coat of carbon dust on everything.

  • @silmarian
    @silmarian 3 роки тому +1

    Having watched a bunch of USCSB videos, so glad to see PPE on top of whatever sensors are in the building

  • @cybertree
    @cybertree 3 роки тому +20

    As an amateur blacksmith and machinist, this literally gets my heart beating fast!

  • @EleanorPeterson
    @EleanorPeterson 3 роки тому +2

    I love this kind of video. When I was a kid my dad used to let me stay up really late at night sometimes to watch the Open University on the BBC (in England). They had all kinds of physics, chemistry, and engineering programmes on, and I couldn't get enough of the machining, metallurgy, forging, and materials-testing stuff.
    Unfortunately it was meant for university-level students, so there was masses of maths, technical data, chemistry, weird physics formulae, exam questions and hard work as well. I didn't understand any of that; I just liked seeing things being designed and made.
    Thanks for this, Lauri. It reminded me of some very happy times with my late dad. It also reminded me of just how stupid I grew up to be... 🤭

  • @guyincognito.
    @guyincognito. 3 роки тому +7

    It's kind of amazing that humans went from bashing rocks together, to machining stuff like this.

  • @rlsimpso
    @rlsimpso 3 роки тому +7

    I love these heavy industrial videos. That process certainly beats using case hardening compound for case depth.

  • @donniev8181
    @donniev8181 3 роки тому +8

    Amazing technology. Imagine what a engineer from the 1800s would think after seeing a part like this. Thanks Lauri.

    • @Torchedini
      @Torchedini 3 роки тому +2

      Well they already had giant machining in the 1900's eg those gaint steamengines used in ships but also in other factories. Power generation just benefits lots from scaling it up. I think he would be most amazed by the amount of precision we can achieve now on this scale. That took a lot more time back then.

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 3 роки тому +1

      @@Torchedini they had nothing like this.

    • @tiktian
      @tiktian 3 роки тому

      @@donniev8181 I think the process would have looked largely familar to engineers at the end of the 19th century, as case hardening large chunks of steel for battleship armour was quite popular at the time. The precision and automation however would be incredibly impressive.

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 3 роки тому

      @@tiktian the automation was not available in the 1800s, what is wrong with you people?

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 3 роки тому

      @@Torchedini the automated process was not available.

  • @Mistertbones
    @Mistertbones 3 роки тому +5

    Tami is such a nice guy. This is a great, educational video.

  • @spidos1000
    @spidos1000 3 роки тому +15

    Brilliant video and very educational! Would be great if you can do more like this.

  • @mikebashford8198
    @mikebashford8198 3 роки тому +10

    I love these machining videos - please do them more often.

  • @fonkbadonk2957
    @fonkbadonk2957 3 роки тому +2

    Rittal cabinets, Siemens panels, Janitza energy meter... this looks like most of the plants I've worked on in Germany. Nice to see some familiar parts!

    • @douro20
      @douro20 2 роки тому

      Romanian machinery but with tons of German parts...

  • @nisgreaterthanzero
    @nisgreaterthanzero 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! I really enjoyed seeing our gear friend complete his journey.

  • @if66was99
    @if66was99 3 роки тому +1

    As a Journeyman Machinist these videos are excellent! I was exposed to heat-treating on my apprenticeship, not doing it, standing back and watching the experts work. It is fascinating to watch. And the way it transforms the metal, down to the grain structure, down to the molecular level is just amazing!

  • @avoirdupois1
    @avoirdupois1 3 роки тому +1

    I love watching these big industrial machines work, and the great explanation that Laurie and Tommy gave.

  • @saw141
    @saw141 3 роки тому +6

    This is fascinating, thank you for all of this. Your friend's explanation of the process was very useful and well done. Please show us more things like this when it is possible.

  • @peterway7867
    @peterway7867 3 роки тому +2

    Fascinating. More of this type of video please.

  • @flagpoleeip
    @flagpoleeip 3 роки тому +2

    I like how the fork lift starts moving before the furnace is fully open.

    • @sootikins
      @sootikins 3 роки тому +2

      Smart programmer. Cutting a few seconds off the cycle time is usually a good thing.

  • @alystair
    @alystair 3 роки тому +3

    This is the first time I heard Lauri speak (briefly) about when he was younger. It must have been interesting growing up in a machinist family :D

  • @Pilgrimman007
    @Pilgrimman007 3 роки тому +3

    That guy speaks excellent English. Awesome vid as always!

  • @bobqzzi
    @bobqzzi 3 роки тому +3

    This is a terrific technical video. I love these

  • @justinchamberlin4195
    @justinchamberlin4195 2 роки тому

    I've been fortunate enough to work in or visit a lot of different heat treating operations, and that facility is both 1) humongous, and 2) super clean. Awesome video!

  • @geofham8332
    @geofham8332 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Lauri. fantastic stuff many thanks to all concerned.

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 3 роки тому +7

    I learned basic machining back when I was young. My father taught the subject at a college. I love to see these big machines making parts like this. Keep doing these!

  • @paramjr
    @paramjr 3 роки тому +2

    Great explained 👍👍

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks to both of you for the tour! The instrument for centering the part on the lathe is called a dial indicator, but I heard someone call it a touch clock which seems more elegant.

    • @WoodworkerDon
      @WoodworkerDon 3 роки тому +2

      Sometimes also called a "Runout Gauge", depending on usage.

  • @droppedpasta
    @droppedpasta 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, that’s very cool!

  • @davidwootton683
    @davidwootton683 3 роки тому +2

    Many thanks for this very interesting video. Yes to more of these types of video please. Kind regards, and greetings from Africa.

  • @ludecom-cz1wz
    @ludecom-cz1wz 3 роки тому +4

    A cup of coffee and giant gears, a good start to the day.

  • @Amdraz
    @Amdraz 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much for reaching out to your friends to film this for us and taking the time for presenting it all! The modern world wouldn't turn without engineering like this, hopefully it's inspired some future engineers!

  • @LordBlee
    @LordBlee 2 роки тому +1

    This is awesome. Thank you for sharing.
    On another note, I'd like to mention how impressed I am with your English. I'm fluent in several languages and couldn't say chuck in any of them.
    Thanks again.

  • @joew426
    @joew426 3 роки тому +3

    "This is probably the nicest heat-treatment plant that you will have seen"
    Well, you're not wrong Lauri.

  • @DerekDavis213
    @DerekDavis213 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting topic, and Tommy speaks English very well.

  • @westherm
    @westherm 3 роки тому +2

    I really like these technical videos. They are very relaxing to watch. Please keep up the educational content!

  • @mikewasowski1411
    @mikewasowski1411 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video. Your friend’s explanation was brilliant!!! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @andrewwilliston5798
    @andrewwilliston5798 3 роки тому +3

    I know nothing about this topic, l know know more than I did and found the content interesting. Thanks for sharing

  • @countryracer69
    @countryracer69 3 роки тому +4

    Man I definitely want to see a video on the large tools you have back at the shop!

  • @thetable123
    @thetable123 3 роки тому

    Those tolerances on parts that big is mind blowing. Very cool!

  • @やゆよの会
    @やゆよの会 3 роки тому +4

    Hello from Japan! I'm watching from years ago, and I saw you guys in Itte Q! Pretty much big project that you do! Keep your work and your body the best! Love you

  • @BillPickle
    @BillPickle 3 роки тому +3

    Holy smokes, now THAT'S a lathe

  • @gobbel2000
    @gobbel2000 3 роки тому +2

    That was incredible to see all around. I'd love to see more like this.

  • @Yezpahr
    @Yezpahr 3 роки тому +1

    7:15 That looks mesmerizing...

  • @notthatadam
    @notthatadam 3 роки тому +2

    Really interesting! I had no idea so much went into making big gears!

  • @IstasPumaNevada
    @IstasPumaNevada 3 роки тому +6

    Very cool seeing this process.

  • @WoodworkerDon
    @WoodworkerDon 3 роки тому +10

    "We have here our little barbecue machine." :)

  • @kevyelyod1211
    @kevyelyod1211 2 роки тому

    I love these technical videos. I would love to work in a place like this.

  • @OnTheRiver66
    @OnTheRiver66 3 роки тому +1

    What clear and excellent explanations! This is a state of the art facility. Thank you both!

  • @kmonnier
    @kmonnier 3 роки тому +2

    This flew by, so interesting

  • @tomboxyz5564
    @tomboxyz5564 3 роки тому +17

    A megawatt used to sound like a lot to me... now I'm dealing with printing machines which have a total of around 3MW heating power each, one of them has 16 burners totaling to about 10MW

    • @pancake_crab4457
      @pancake_crab4457 3 роки тому +5

      Printing what exactly?

    • @tomboxyz5564
      @tomboxyz5564 3 роки тому +3

      @@pancake_crab4457 decorative paper, mostly for furniture and doors

    • @McSlobo
      @McSlobo 2 роки тому

      A steel mill can take something like 400MW to melt a pot of scrap so yeah, there are numbers and then there are big numbers. 1MW doesn't yet make you think a lot about how much the electricity bill is but with 100s of MWs you might start to plan at which time you're going to use the energy.

  • @vatsalparmar317
    @vatsalparmar317 3 роки тому +1

    Very good video and great explanation by that guy 👍.

  • @timareskog2418
    @timareskog2418 3 роки тому +3

    Great video and excellent description of the hardening process involved. 👍

  • @almusur1781
    @almusur1781 3 роки тому +1

    That was really interesting. I would love to see more.

  • @Vinlaell
    @Vinlaell 3 роки тому +7

    Wow I did not know that you could carburize steel using gases awesome I've been practicing as a hobby machinist carburizing my own tools and parts by packing them in pure carbon and roasting them

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 3 роки тому

      Maybe its just an issue of cleanliness. Rather than having a giant tank of hot powder/sand to mess with, clean, etc, you have carbon containing gasses. Which wouldn't be feasible on small scale, and vice versa for the large scale. I would be interested to find out if thats why

    • @Vinlaell
      @Vinlaell 3 роки тому

      @@skeetsmcgrew3282 I'm sure that's why.
      it seems it takes a lot longer when using gas as well the electric/fuel bill for days to a week is another thing a home shop cannot afford. It said it could take days to a week for like a millimeter or two I think, well when using carbon powder you can go deeper than that in 20 minutes

    • @JaakkoF
      @JaakkoF 3 роки тому +1

      @@Vinlaell Literally can not go that deep in 20 minutes, the diffusion doesn't work that fast. Mostly the limit comes from the temperature that is limited to certain degree to not fuck up the hardening (higher temp, higher diffusion rate). As for case hardening, usually it is given in the blueprint what the depth actually means, but generally speaking a case hardness is measured to a depth where the hardness goes down to 55 HRC IIRC (might have been 50 HRC). I'm quite sure you are not measuring case depth at home.

    • @tiktian
      @tiktian 3 роки тому

      Doing it with gas is more consistent and uniform compared with using solid carburizing agents. Which is more important for industrial applications.

  • @grexursorum6006
    @grexursorum6006 3 роки тому +2

    Verry interesting video. It's insane that it is possible to machine something that big with that persicion. As I demanded already for the first giant gear video. Pls so follow up as it gets installed. The turbine gear box is very interesting in its own i guess. Nice vid thx

  • @alphasails2
    @alphasails2 3 роки тому +1

    It is always interesting to see how things are made.
    Keep up the great videos.

  • @johnnytarponds9292
    @johnnytarponds9292 2 роки тому

    Excellent episode, guys!

  • @leecollie2647
    @leecollie2647 2 роки тому

    So well explain plus his English is perfect ..well done clearly this man is very very smart ..

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 3 роки тому +1

    I see the gears for my watch is coming along nicely :-)

  • @Sharklops
    @Sharklops 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful explanation of a very interesting topic

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky 3 роки тому +2

    One of the best parts about these videos is listening to people speak better English than plenty of people that speak it as there only language...Bi-Lingual FTW

  • @itsthelasttime13
    @itsthelasttime13 3 роки тому +1

    Really loved this video and explanation of the process.

  • @daveseddon5227
    @daveseddon5227 3 роки тому +3

    Very interesting - would love to see more like it!
    Thanks. 🙂

  • @carpediemarts705
    @carpediemarts705 3 роки тому +1

    Man their English is good.
    No significant grammar or pronunciation errors.

  • @Lucifurion
    @Lucifurion 2 роки тому

    You earned my subscription just for the Belzebubs shirt, great band🤘

  • @infinitelyexplosive4131
    @infinitelyexplosive4131 3 роки тому +1

    I love these type of videos

  • @papinkelman7695
    @papinkelman7695 3 роки тому +3

    Keeping me entertainend is a real job...

  • @NoelBarlau
    @NoelBarlau 3 роки тому +16

    When they dropped the gears into the oil bath, I had a flashback to Han being encased in Carbonite.

  • @cliveramsbotty6077
    @cliveramsbotty6077 3 роки тому +1

    really interesting more please Lauri!

  • @NellaCuriosity
    @NellaCuriosity 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating video!

  • @the_ALchannel
    @the_ALchannel 3 роки тому +4

    Tami's English is really impressive!

  • @PyroKaktusHD
    @PyroKaktusHD 3 роки тому +3

    Hope you enjoyed your vacation! :)

  • @joet2585
    @joet2585 3 роки тому +2

    Greetings from Canada!

  • @chrisj2848
    @chrisj2848 3 роки тому +2

    This is a great explanation!!!

  • @stridermt2k
    @stridermt2k 3 роки тому +1

    Clean shop indeed!

  • @ColoradoCarrolls
    @ColoradoCarrolls 3 роки тому

    Wanted to add a comment about all of BTP episodes on the frozen lake to a new vid
    All the fish in that lake are like
    "Don't F***in go over there or you'll die"
    Love the channel, Became a member and i'm hooked on it.
    Great jobs everyone involved.

  • @randym.4209
    @randym.4209 3 роки тому

    Beautiful work. Thanks

  • @mechbest8685
    @mechbest8685 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and very informative

  • @CausticLemons7
    @CausticLemons7 3 роки тому +1

    Machines are cool and big machines are better!

  • @mikegeary8056
    @mikegeary8056 2 роки тому

    I really like these type of videos you guys do.

  • @GumbootZone
    @GumbootZone 3 роки тому +25

    "But don't tell my wife." So far, there's only 10 dislikes. But 9 of them are from his wife.

  • @68Squid
    @68Squid 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome! Thanks for sharing

  • @maoristutuff
    @maoristutuff 3 роки тому +1

    So bloody cool dude

  • @jamesdrake2378
    @jamesdrake2378 3 роки тому

    great vid thanks and greetings from the NJ Bayshore

  • @billlee5307
    @billlee5307 3 роки тому

    Very interesting! Many thank to everyone involved!

  • @RitusG
    @RitusG 3 роки тому +20

    Endo gas comes from an endothermic generator, which uses natural gas. It is cheaper to convert natural gas through a catalyst than to buy methanol.

    • @hammurambi
      @hammurambi 3 роки тому +2

      Also methanol is a bit dangerous since the flames are invisible. Case hardening atmospheres are almost always a dangerous: Ammonia for nitriding, carbon monoxide for case carburizing, or acetylene for vacuum carburizing.

    • @kurtu5
      @kurtu5 3 роки тому

      And then there is Dan Gelbert using methanol in his home heat treating furnace.

    • @hammurambi
      @hammurambi 3 роки тому +1

      @@kurtu5 His method is probably one of the safest ways for a carburizing atmosphere on the small-scale. Very minimal risk of injury from an explosion that way.

  • @MrJpocreva
    @MrJpocreva 3 роки тому

    This is an excellent video. Nice job.

  • @cirno6697
    @cirno6697 3 роки тому +1

    please more steelfoundry or heat treating videos! greetings from germany NRW!