STS-51F RSLS Abort (NASA TV Coverage)

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  • STS-51F RSLS Abort (NASA TV Coverage)
    July 12th 1985 - Full coverage of NASA TV from T-20 minutes through the abort and the egress of the crew from Challenger.
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  • @Consequator
    @Consequator Рік тому +16

    That wobble after the cut-off is scary as hell to watch.

  • @A-Smith
    @A-Smith 2 роки тому +78

    Interesting to see how much the stack continues to rock back and forth after the main engines shut down.

    • @JeffreyGroves
      @JeffreyGroves 2 роки тому +4

      The discussion on the radio seemed to say that two of the hold down bolts on a SRB broke during the abort. That might have contributed to the rocking back and forth.

    • @57ccrider
      @57ccrider 2 роки тому +14

      I have read from other accounts of STS launches the start-up thrust generated by the 3 mains causes the deflection/flexating from true vertical. The SRBs are sequenced to fire at T-.002 seconds prior to total return to true vertical with the SRB hold-down bracket bolts set to shear at exactly T-0 seconds. This allowed .002 seconds for the SRB's to reach full thrust and the stack to launch unloaded by the flexed enertia. At least that is what I read.

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 2 роки тому

      I know, right?

    • @JaseCJay
      @JaseCJay 2 роки тому +3

      @@57ccrider it's called twang

    • @DaveChimny
      @DaveChimny 2 роки тому

      The booster ignition was timed so perfectly that the whole stack could pitch to the front (by the forces of the three SSMEs) and lift-off occoured right at the moment when it came back to the center. Search for "Shuttle Twang" here on UA-cam for videos showing it. ;-)

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 2 роки тому +26

    Please note that the finalists for the "Teacher In Space Project" including Christa McAuliffe and Barbara Morgan were watching this from Houston.

    • @danielh1708
      @danielh1708 2 роки тому +9

      Please note...its normal for all astronauts in training to watch the launches.

    • @rudolphguarnacci197
      @rudolphguarnacci197 2 роки тому +9

      Please note.
      That's it, just please note.

  • @robadams5799
    @robadams5799 Рік тому +10

    25:28 - Puff of exhaust from the APU, just in front of the tail.

  • @smadaf
    @smadaf 2 роки тому +89

    Am I the only one who still thinks that NASA's launch-control and mission-control rooms in the late '60s, the '70s, the '80s, and the '90s look more high-tech than any modern room full of little keyboards and laptops and LED/LCD monitors?

    • @gasaholic47
      @gasaholic47 2 роки тому +7

      No, it didn't look more high tech back then with rotary phones on the consoles.

    • @smadaf
      @smadaf 2 роки тому +6

      @@gasaholic47 , oh, but it did, and it still does.

    • @lawrenceallen8096
      @lawrenceallen8096 2 роки тому +4

      At the Kennedy Space Center you can visit the actual Apollo control room. For realism they hang Rockwell white jackets, etc on the chair backs. There was also an ashtray with a pack of non-filter Lucky Strikes in it. The day we visited a 'Super Karen' on the tour asked the security guard to remove the smokes because they were a bad influence on her son (who was with her and completely embarrassed). The guard ignored her. Lots has changed. Today, President Biden would have told the Apollo 13 Astronauts "Tough luck: you are on your own. We got back all astronauts who wanted to be rescued. We didn't stand anyone in space. The Apollo 13 mission was a complete success!"

    • @57ccrider
      @57ccrider 2 роки тому +2

      @@lawrenceallen8096no shit about the Lucky's, Camel non-filters & a few outlaws who smoked Chesterfields. The Karen you cited is amongst those who believe if we rip down a monument history dissappears.

    • @lawrenceallen8096
      @lawrenceallen8096 2 роки тому

      @@57ccrider yep

  • @oliverbombosch3009
    @oliverbombosch3009 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the memories of a dramatic evening back in 1985. Just imagine how much more dramatic it was listening to Voice of America live coverage and not seeing what was happening at the time...

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  2 роки тому

      Sounds like that was me too...no coverage of this in UK except for a brief mention on the news later

    • @oliverbombosch3009
      @oliverbombosch3009 2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/Lf_dSIhuw1Q/v-deo.html

  • @Unclefire
    @Unclefire 2 роки тому +9

    That launch had plenty of gremlins. I think the actual launch was probably more scary than the abort on the pad.
    Reading some of the details on the ATO, they basically turned off the sensors after the first engine cut out. So an actual human had to watch the temperatures of the remaining to engines and possibly shut that one down (before it potentially blew up). They lost 2 sensors on one engine (which caused the engine shutdown), then lost a 3rd sensor on one of the remaining engines. That's when they went to the "limits to inhibit". They were also in a precarious position where it was dicey of they could reach alternative landing spot.

    • @danielh1708
      @danielh1708 2 роки тому

      They did not turn any sensors 'off' and were actually past all other abort points except the single engine configuration.

    • @Unclefire
      @Unclefire 2 роки тому +1

      @@danielh1708 I should have said they turned off the auto shutoff of engines based on sensor readings. The sensors were still there. That's the "limits to inhibit" piece. They didn't want another engine to shut off automatically due to sensor readings.

  • @oubrioko
    @oubrioko Місяць тому +2

    55:57 😯 *Hyd Launch Controller* got a bit testy on the _Launch Director Loop_ during the vehicle safing process. Eventually, the PAO starts bloviating 56:54 in an attempt to distract from the frosty back-and-forth between controllers. It was obviously a frustrating situation

  • @goldenpacificmedia
    @goldenpacificmedia 2 роки тому +6

    I have located a partial recording of CNN's coverage of this event. I will post it to my channel and would like to post the URL for that recording to this discussion. Thank you LM5 for your outstanding digital preservation work of the history of manned spaceflight.

    • @goldenpacificmedia
      @goldenpacificmedia 2 роки тому

      Here's STS-51-F's prelaunch coverage on the evening of July 11 1985 from KTLA News At Ten ua-cam.com/video/IRyr1TD8BkE/v-deo.html

  • @Zoomer30_
    @Zoomer30_ 2 роки тому +5

    33:14
    Very good view of the yellow Centuar rolling umbilical that would later be used on the (canceled post Challenger) Shuttle Centuar missions.

    • @ThePixelated_kris
      @ThePixelated_kris Рік тому

      It would have been cool to see a shuttle centaur mission

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 4 місяці тому

      @@ThePixelated_kris Not to worry, we put them to good use later!

    • @Zoomer30_
      @Zoomer30_ 3 місяці тому

      Commander Hauck told his crew that was going on one of the two Centaur missions that if they wanted out, he would help them. The safety of the whole Shuttle/Centuar-G was so bad that they were called the "Death Star" missions.

  • @MattWinacott
    @MattWinacott 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you LM5 ☺

  • @sandyhanson6082
    @sandyhanson6082 2 роки тому +2

    Totally remember when this happened.

  • @cbavid2003
    @cbavid2003 2 роки тому +2

    That was cool

  • @mikegallant811
    @mikegallant811 Рік тому +2

    Poor little Challenger. Crown Princess of the fleet.

  • @Zoomer30
    @Zoomer30 8 місяців тому

    The square right above the tail service mast is where the umbilical connection for the Centuar booster would be.

  • @nolancain8792
    @nolancain8792 2 роки тому +16

    I definitely want to call this one of the unluckiest successful missions ever. First the RSLS abort, then the ATO abort. On top of that, they had the unluckiest shuttle to use, minus the explosion. STS-93 is probably the only one close to it in terms of problems from the same abort to the electric issues and engine overheating at launch.

    • @brianmcinall9455
      @brianmcinall9455 2 роки тому +1

      STS-93 is very close to it indeed, given it was Columbia and therefor it's association with STS 107...

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 2 роки тому +1

      Other orbiters like Atlantis had a few close calls as well.

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 2 роки тому +1

      @@brianmcinall9455 Other orbiters like Atlantis had a few close calls as well.

    • @rpcoelho1
      @rpcoelho1 Рік тому

      It is worth mentioning the tile damage on STS-27 and the Flight control computers failures on sts-9!

    • @Astro95Media
      @Astro95Media Рік тому +2

      @@rpcoelho1 Don't forget the APU fire from STS-9 or Atlantis landing short of the runway on STS-37. They all had hairy moments, for sure.

  • @derickclemons369
    @derickclemons369 Рік тому +3

    I remember the Shuttle Challenger landing on piggyback in Wichita Falls heading too Florida. Awesome sight. Never thought it would disintegrate six months later.

  • @randolphhinz6361
    @randolphhinz6361 2 роки тому +4

    Sorry folks that should say launch, not lunch, lol!

  • @horsesboy
    @horsesboy 2 роки тому +4

    I hadn't realized there was a pad abort on this mission. I wonder if the late abort after engine firing played in role in the center engine failure when it launched.

    • @ILSRWY4
      @ILSRWY4 Рік тому +1

      two separate engine problems.

  • @moboutmen
    @moboutmen 2 роки тому +4

    This, along with Gemini 6, were the most stressful launch pad events ever to me.

    • @CosmosZeroX
      @CosmosZeroX Рік тому

      Were you involved back then in the Space Shuttle program?

    • @moboutmen
      @moboutmen Рік тому

      @@CosmosZeroX Only as a rapt viewer on tv.

  • @randolphhinz6361
    @randolphhinz6361 2 роки тому +6

    My father worked for Bendix lunch support in 1966 when the Gemini missions were going on and I was still impressed by what all was going on back in the sixties with the NASA space program and I'm still very much impressed the precautions that NASA takes to protect all of the crew and people on board the pad. Kudos to NASA!!!

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 2 роки тому +1

      If your amazing dad is still with us, can you ask him what was his most memorable day of his entire career?

    • @randolphhinz6361
      @randolphhinz6361 2 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately, my Dad passed away in 2012, but Thank you for the kind words!!!

    • @ZicajosProductions
      @ZicajosProductions 2 роки тому +1

      @@randolphhinz6361 God Bless him! Your dad was part of the elite people who made all this possible.

    • @oubrioko
      @oubrioko Місяць тому

      My father worked for a different division of Bendix. *Bendix* contractors operated the two crawlers at _Kennedy Space Center_ back in the day. It was a great company with many impressive professionals.

  • @Matt-Holdren
    @Matt-Holdren Рік тому +5

    I thought they would be higher at MECO

  • @josiahclinch6219
    @josiahclinch6219 2 роки тому +1

    are we going to get the ato abort too?

  • @mauricefrontz8570
    @mauricefrontz8570 2 роки тому +1

    I recorded the CNN coverage in 85 on VHS. Practically wore out the tape...

  • @robadams5799
    @robadams5799 2 роки тому +5

    Was I the only one yelling "Get them out of there!" at the TV in 1985?
    "STS-51-F's first launch attempt on July 12, 1985 was halted with the countdown at T−3 seconds after main engine ignition, when a malfunction of the number two RS-25 coolant valve caused the shutdown of all three main engines." -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-51-F

  • @CatalinElton
    @CatalinElton 2 місяці тому

    Still amazed that the water system didn't damage the underbelly tiles....

  • @hastingsotienootieno3660
    @hastingsotienootieno3660 2 роки тому

    Nada is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts Рік тому +1

    So it took the ground crew a half-hour to get to the white room. Are they waiting in a bunker closer than everyone else to the launch tower?
    And it's creepy seeing the good ol days back when NASA pretended that the shuttle cockpit was a shirtsleeve environment..

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 Рік тому +2

      Technically it is a shirt sleeve environment technically anyway....

  • @arcosprey4811
    @arcosprey4811 2 роки тому

    Does F stand for failure?

  • @oubrioko
    @oubrioko Місяць тому +1

    30:16 nice _twangage_

  • @jerrielkyleabu6339
    @jerrielkyleabu6339 2 роки тому

    0:01 spinning space shuttle

  • @robadams5799
    @robadams5799 2 роки тому +3

    25:30 - Puffs of smoke at the base of the tail?

    • @cerberus1981
      @cerberus1981 2 роки тому +3

      That is the APU exhaust, IIRC…

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 2 роки тому

      @@cerberus1981 that seems plausible.

    • @don312000
      @don312000 2 роки тому +1

      @@cerberus1981 Based on where it's coming from, that's exactly what it is, just as the APUs are being turned on.

    • @Zoomer30_
      @Zoomer30_ 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah and if you time the puffs with the "puff puff puff" sound that you can hear on the Shuttle RocketCam videos (or the videos of a shuttle landing where you can hear it) the sound is coming from the APUs.

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 2 роки тому +1

      @ELDEANTI I remember seeing that on a night landing.

  • @tvdan1043
    @tvdan1043 Рік тому

    10 minutes of trying to get somebody, ANYBODY, to turn the water off. Nobody seemed to know who had the ability to turn it off.

  • @kevinwise1997
    @kevinwise1997 2 роки тому

    I didnt catch the reason for the abort on this one

    • @dash9655
      @dash9655 2 роки тому +1

      Failure of one of the engine coolant valves

  • @uitzendinggemist7570
    @uitzendinggemist7570 2 роки тому

    Better luck next time!

  • @CatalinElton
    @CatalinElton 2 місяці тому

    One mission, two aborts.....

  • @respectdawildo_danjones508
    @respectdawildo_danjones508 2 роки тому +1

    I would NOT be happy if I was an astronaut that day. Did all on board get another flight after this??

    • @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547
      @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547 Рік тому +1

      They all flew this same mission a few days later, which had a Abort To Orbit due to a malfunctioning temp sensor. The mission was a success even though they didn't achieve the desired orbit.

  • @CatalinElton
    @CatalinElton 2 місяці тому

    No launch just an on pad shower.

  • @TMS5100
    @TMS5100 2 роки тому +5

    @30:10

  • @karlmehltretter2677
    @karlmehltretter2677 11 місяців тому

    Redundant set launch sequencer abort

  • @randolphhinz6361
    @randolphhinz6361 2 роки тому +2

    And btw, I was only a boy of 10 years old!!!

  • @TheDoug2103
    @TheDoug2103 2 роки тому +6

    after all those years since apollo 1 they still never came up with a faster way to open a hatch.....

    • @gasaholic47
      @gasaholic47 2 роки тому +4

      Uhm, yes they did. Even the Block 2 Apollo capsule had a quick opening mechanism. The hatch was totally redesigned after the Apollo 1 fire.

    • @Nghilifa
      @Nghilifa 2 роки тому +4

      They did, the hatch on the Block II spacecraft could be opened in less than 10 seconds.

    • @Unclefire
      @Unclefire 2 роки тому +2

      I read somewhere (years ago) that in cases like this one they don't want them leaving the shuttle until they know things are ok outside the spacecraft.

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 Рік тому

      @@Nghilifa this was true all they had to do was pump a special handle and that hatch would fly open within 10 seconds I believe although don't quote me on that one yet I'd have to look it up!

    • @bigal1863
      @bigal1863 Рік тому

      That statement is ridiculous

  • @daveigamedeiros
    @daveigamedeiros Рік тому

    jump to 30:03

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 2 роки тому +2

    Several months after this mission, long time announcer of game shows including "The Price is Right" Johnny Olson (who coined the phrase "Come on Down") passed away from a stroke at the age of 75.