Tony Cascarino CLAIMS North London derby Has Become The Most TOXIC Derby In The Premier League! 😬🔥
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Natalie Sawyer & Tony Cascarino debate if Tottenham fans were right to want their team lose against Manchester City.
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Its not a rivalry. Its a mid table club trying to stay relevant against their bigger, better and more successful geographical neighbour. Arsenal's rivals are the other big clubs
5th is mid table? this is why everyone wanted you to lose the league again. Most delusional fans in the country AFTV has shown the world.
Your comment just made you look ignorant, Spurs have been a top six club since Enic took over and has once been out of the top six in 20 years. The last time you have been relevant is last season when you qualified for the Champions League, havent not been in the champions league seven seasons ago. You based your success on a Fa cup win four years ago.
It’s not much a rivalry when Arsenal are light years ahead of Spurs.
Tell that to arsenal fans please.
I know plenty. And they would of wanted exactly the same, trust me.
They wanted to lose the Europa if it meant spurs losing the champ league final.
Seems like people have forgot this.
@@familyread7889Not me squire, my team to win first, then not lose, at all costs, no matter who we’re playing
@@patricksterling927 yeah ok
If only .No european trophies!!
Keep talking of past glories, if it makes u feel better. It's about now, ask Chelsea & City. Arsenal have done no better than Spurs
The only thing keeping Spurs relevant is them forcing rivalry with Arsenal
Forcing 😂 omg we live rent free in the gooners heads you obviously live up north
@@rossko727- er why? Tottenham win nothing so what is there is to be obsessed about?
@@guyverjay1289 Arsenal fans hate Tottenham fans as much as the other way around it’s as simple as that! The hatred is on both sides!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 right
Arsenal fans hate Tottenham fans as much as the other way around don’t kid yourself that they don’t
When Tottenham had a decent team a few years back, they won NOTHING, an absolute fat zero, whilst Arsenal, despite being in the football doldrums, managed to win FA Cups.
Well hey, the tide has turned, and suddenly Arsenal are emerging as a force again.
It's pure jealously from Tottenham fans hence their hatred.
It has turned and both clubs won nothing
No arsenal have won fa cups in that time
@scarface7142 Arsenal FA Cup wins during Tottenham "golden" (but unsuccessful) years.
2013-2014
2014-2015
2016-2017
2018-2019
@@P.Rick316 Er.... 14 FA Cups. 13 League Titles.
FOUR FA Cups since 2013-2014 season.
Arsenal are serial winners.
🤣 💀
The toxicity is all on Spurs’ end. Misery loves company.
lol, no matter the topic football fans showing a complete lack of being able to put the bias aside and see that it is the majority of fans. Not sure how long you been rocking about but Arsenal have always had a toxic side, same as Spurs, same as all clubs all over the world.
Are you kidding me? 😂 I'm a villa fan and even I know arsenal fans are just as bad. Spurs fans were 100% toxic but arsenal fans are the most hypocritical fanbase in the league. Arsenal current players, ex players, celeb fans, normal fans are always toxic towards Tottenham and have been for years. To say it's one way is ridiculous
Yeah cause Arsenal fans never spend most of their time at the Emirates singing about Spurs!!
@@patrickgrace2029 It's called comedy relief, everyone needs some.
@@Amberle73 yeah course it is
Sounds like it’s time to call in the environmental groups to clean up the toxic mess. Hopefully the government set aside sufficient funds for this particular disaster.
"They gave them a game"... are you kidding me... jesus wept, give your head a wobble... watch that game back.. Spurs players pulled out of challenges, walked around, made absolute minimal effort to win that game.. and that first goal... was allowed to come across the 6yrd box... Spurs at the beginning of the season were frighteningly good... we had 2 really hard games against them... Son, who has the best Opta data for scoring one on ones and going around a keeper, shoots early and misses.... the whole thing stinks!!!
What a load of nonsense. What about the 4 losses before that where didn't even try? Wins in those would've made this game pointless for spurs and they could've put kids out
I wouldn’t say Spurs didn’t try. They were horribly out of form by having a lack of match fitness compared to every other club thanks to going two weeks without a match, twice. I think Chelsea were the only game they truly let themselves down from a performance perspective.
Its toxic because Spurs cant accept that they’re a small club
short memory, we above you for years
@@henryclarke5363 and did what in that time? In that time we won a couple of FA cups and you won nothing
@@henryclarke5363nener ever. And you know it. Why the hate towards "the travellers" BECAUSE THEY ARE HISTORICALLY THE MUCH BIGGER AND SUCCESSFUL CLUB. Arsenal moved to Islington and attracted former spurs supporters. Nothing else. If Arsenal were no success there would be no hatred. Simplest.
@@jeannotschumacher1024 whatever
If they could that'd be small club mentality!!!11111
Media are talking like Tottenham have played with their u18's team. If you see the game properly you can see the both teams were competitive. But City is one of the best teams in the world, so of course they would have advantage and end up find a way to beat Spurs.
Match fixing
Social media have played a big part with both sets of fans having their say on their planforms, which earn them views and followers and of course money from you tube. Rivalry are for the fans the players who play for both clubs know exactly who their are.
Liverpool - You lost the league at Goodison Park 📢😀
remember when the media push that there had been a power shift in North london because Spurs finished above Arsenal for a few seasons amassing *check notes* 0 trophies
I'm old enough to remember they were desperate to push it for at least 5 years before it even happened, but as usual spurs kept disappointing everyone 😂
Spurs were never Gona win that game .. spurs have fooled everyone in the Media. Lol
U honestly think spurs were gona actually try to win that? The player who scored the goal for spurs would have never been forgiven by the fans. The players knew that and done their best to not score when they got in the final 3rd.
Yeah, Sonny sorted it that Ederson would get concussed and come off so that Ortega could dangle a leg and save his shot.
Yup, I could see that happening
People always bring up that Liverpool beat Blackburn on the last day of that season. However no one is saying Spurs did or should have thrown the game.
But when Liverpool scored the winner that day there was stunned silence. It’s the exact same situation. The fans don’t want the rival team to win the title. It’s simple. It’s not toxic it’s football.
Flippin 'eck TalkSport is really scraping the barrel with these 2 in the studio. That little chat didnt deliver any original insight or new information at all it just regurgitated what everyone else has been saying for the last few days. Waste of airtime
It’s one thing wanting your rivals to lose, it’s another thing celebrating your own defeat.
That’s Spursy
Spuds now need to lose to anyone who can stop Arsenal winning the League starting from next season.
Good idea 👍🏻 we all hate Arsenal
@@kevwilliams1and none of us care.
a leauge you never win, blew it again,clowns
@@henryclarke5363 Who blew what? Where are you in the table exactly :P
@dariasstalbottson6067 yep last season we did bottle it but those statics are bullshit. The points tally may be correct but people fail to add that city had like 3 games in hand which they won all of and then beat us at their ground. So yeah we could of done better but it wasn't as bad as people make out.
Least we didn't finish 3rd in a 2 horse race though 😂.
THANK YOU!!! COMMON SENSE
This toxicity is one-sided cause arsenal fans would never put on city's jersey and celebrate against our own team and screaming at them to throw the game...
Funny how all the comments are arsenal fans saying spurs are toxic yet they’re the ones commenting on everything 🤷🏻♂️
Cas going on about Liverpool beating Blackburn in 95'. Why didn't Redknapp celebrate when he scored that winning free kick. Thats worse than the fans opinions
Big Ange knows his players threw that game, he just can't say it publicly as it would damage the hell out of that club.... their fans loved it that they lost
Nope
It us what it is , when Arsenals supporters show their feelings about spurs club everyone expect spurs supporters to be spursy, when they stand up to their disregard of the Arsenals rivers of tears and disgust flow even from chelsea fans ,what go's around comes around
What?!
A very one sided rivalry. Someone needs to let Arsenal know
When did the Spuds last win a title, 1961? Oh, yes black and white TV, Top Cat and The Avengers 🤷♂️
@patricksterling927 When did arsenal win a European trophy ?? Oh they haven't!! Comr and see some at Tottenham!!
The difference is quality ,class , history
They are just SPURSY .
Also trophies 🏆 When all is said and done, will the Spuds look back over this period, in say 20 years, and reflect that their biggest achievement was not beating Citeh, and stopped us winning?
🤔😳🤣😂🤣😭😭😭🙈🙉🙊🤫🤡
WHEREVARW YOUR EUROPEAN TROPHIES ?? SORRY THERE ARNT ANY 😂😂😂
@@jacklegros6614 we have a fairs cup and cup winners cup if you don't include them that's your problem
Next season champ league is changing so do we say everybody that's won it don't count (
The most one-sided rivalry 😂 For 90% of our 'rivalry' theres only 1 clear winner ! 😂
Spurs went for it on final game against United in 99 too which could have handed the title to Arsenal. Don’t think fans acted the same way back then. Maybe shows just how bad the last 25 years have been for them?
In 1999 they celebrated their loss at old trafford. Don't come me with some other idiotic stuff. It was like that at least from the late sixties on. At least.
Is there a trophy for bragging rights…..?
It’s immature and pathetic.
this is all banter . what fans think really doesnt matter. do you think teams want to be relegated ? no , its what the manager and the players do. fans, will always be fans , win or lose.
I understood it as an arsenal fan, from spurs fans perspective, a better team came to north london and won trophies so instead of being better they try and drag arsenal down to thier pathetic level 😂
The Arsenal have been in North London decades longer than the chickens have. Its why North London is always red
@@IamevlhmrArsenal are always Tottenhams tenants !! Woolwich and always Woolwich!!
I was at the game and there was very little between the teams. 2 lapses from Tottenham caused the loss.
The spurs fan saying "we stopped Arsenal winning the league" the four points we got off Spurs is part the reason we took it to the last day, Arsenal were hoping City had a bad day, no one thought Spurs could beat even a 50% City team, they just scraped past relegated Burnley ffs.... at home!
Didn’t even watch, that Citeh never beating the Spuds away, in their new ground, or even scoring had to end. Unfortunately this was the game.
Nothing can beat the rivalry between Manchester United and Liverpool.
Na dude. That's over
None of their fans are from the North West lol all tourists
@@johnkeohane4239 true cos we always win and BTW I'm not a dude....I'm a girl
@@Liverpool_YNWA12345even worse. Have some shame. Liverpool and Man United eras are finished.
I'd argue Man U x Arsenal was the greatest. It influenced the whole world, not just England.
Next season they be crying next season when they loosing. We’ll say I thought you like loosing. It will come back to bite them
I love how many of these pundits talking moral this , moral that , it’s the right thing to do , when if you go to a lot of these games the police have to escort supporters to opposite ends so they they don’t beat each other to death half the time !
Like really …..
we gonna make a fuss about losing to inflict pain onto your main rival .
Ahhhhh yeahhhh I think it’s not even a millisecond thought 😝
This is pathetic! Is this even a point to be debated when there’s a potential champions league place available?
No. What did u watch? Spurs players were pulling out of tackles. And son miss. Dun even start about that.
Calm down Cass
what's wrong with having rivalries, what is actually wrong with that ?
Nothing wrong with rivalries. Pretending to care about your side and pretending to have superiority over another side, just to lose on purpose and will negative results on your side to spite your rivalries though... there's definitely something wrong with that
@@richardsmith9615 see it makes sense to me, the bedrock of football is rivalry and emotion.
Of course tottenham fans wouldn't want to directly help their rivals win a title for them, it makes complete sense to me personally.
Think people have blown it out of proportion
@@richardsmith9615prove that Tottenham lost on purpose
@usernameheda big difference in you beating your rivals and you loosing to help another team beat them, your argument only works if tottenham actually stop arsenal themselves
@@sabmo3514 but they quite literally did stop arsenal themselves, the fate of arsenal was in tottenhams hands
Because of Arsenal fan tv's viewers and the people who appear on the channel.
champions leauge final, You never do that!
Not even the most toxic in London.
I'm sure he meant clueless
I think you should back that up by mentioning that rivalry you think is more toxic in London
@@afccapetown2726 West Ham Millwall obviously.
@@afccapetown2726Millwall West Ham
@@IISoMaLiaNII it's more like a Women's Institute tea party compared to West Ham v Millwall.
It's toxic more from spurs fans than arsenal fan's it's bcoz spurs are the least successful they are desperate for a trophy 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 you've got bigger fish to fry matey
@@thedethrocker8858arsenal have definitely got bigger fish to fry compared to spurs tiddlers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s always been a soft derby.
Spurs lost more than the match last week. They lost any little pretense of a rivalry. Arsenal are on their own until Utd and Chelsea get better. Teams should show that they actually try against City for that to be a rivalry. In any case Arsenal have to get 95pts or more to beat City. Trophies are coming to the Emirates soon anyway, chin up Gunners. The team is here for a long time. We'll do great things.
I bet West Ham beat City but then Everton will beat Arsenal 😂😂😂😂
Hope so, would be hilarious.
Arsenal has Spurs by the balls so tight to the point that they enjoy losing a game. How hilarious is that 🤣 😂
But spurs are not arsenal rival thete closer to luton or burnley arsenal win trophies bug difference 😅😅
We call them the Spuds for a reason, they always get over done 🤷♂️
We didn’t want a favour from that lot. Nonsense talk tbh we hate them, they hate us. It’s already toxic but it’ll always be that way. We know what spurs are nothings changed
Tbh it’s nothing compared to Celtic v Rangers
they said PREM plus tbh its an overrated rivalry
It's just a rivalry to see who can have the most clueless, deluded and insufferable fan base in the world. Arsenal are currently winning it tbf.
@@xmanv5242 overrated rivalry 😂😂😂😂 typical English arrogance that knows f all about Scottish culture
That's what the rest of the world think about you english fans
Toxic 🤣🤣 they were arm in arm durning the week across utube praying for a City slip 🤣🤣🤣
They were terrible against City , please.
Truth to be told Arsenal fans are more hurt and stubbed but that is what you can expect from your enemy............another thing, As Arsenal, you can't beat your rival in their own house and not expect revenge. So stop that nonsense and wait for next season
It’s so far from a decent rivalry because spurs have and will always be a sub par desperate club in Arsenals shadow. They are a laughing stock who once again next year will be a massive step behind again due to their spursy mentality from the fan base and through the club itself
I just pity them. I feel sorry for my friends who are spurs fans. Even they feel sorry for themselves.
I feel sorry for you.
Such pity
@@familyread7889 Bless you kitten
@@reeceb4973 na, never 😂😂😂
Spurs will never win anything 😂😂😂. They'll always be losers
All the virtue signaling, amazing, I thought football was a tribalistic working class sport. Why after we'd lost any chance of champions league would we want arsenal to win anything.
Correct tense, was a working class sport
Both man city and man united have won trophies in recent years what have tottenham won.
The hearts and minds, oops thinking about another team. Sweet FA, oops they haven’t even won that since, oops, I can’t honestly remember 🤷♂️
absoulte rubbish it has nothing on West ham vs Milllwall london most feared derby by a mile
Another overhyped rivalry 😂😂
2 middle class small clubs going at it and they think it's toxic or even relevant.. what a JOKE! 😂😂
Didn't Brokelona fans want Madrid to beat Girona? It's better than el clásico
Lemme remind you that Arsenal is the 3rd most successful club in English history.
What does class have to do with it? Next you’ll be bringing in politics.
🤣😂🤣😭😭😭
Cascarino always talks absolute bs when it involves Spurs. He’s never objective and can’t help himself but put the boot in.
Battle of the mid. Bottlehood of losers.
Oh shut up Cascarino you haven't a clue
LOL He's right, and hilariously - as of today - we now know Tottenham *would* have qualified for the top 4 if they had defeated Man City (Tottenham won 3-0 against Sheffield United on the final matchday, and Aston Villa was *brutally* destroyed 5-0 by Crystal Palace simultaneously)!
That officially makes Tottenham fans the first ever set of fans to root *against* their club making the top 4 and actually *succeeding* in rooting them to failure! XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD Yes, for those who didn't watch the game, it was a lot closer than the scoreline suggests! It was 0-0 at halftime, Man City struggled heavily, and Tottenham actually had *several* chances to score! It is *very* legitimate to think Tottenham *could* have yet again upset Man City (who always appears to struggle against Tottenham) if their fans were actually *cheering them on* to do so (but they were rooting *against* them *in their own stadium)!* XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
This storyline will live on forever! As a Liverpool fan, the one thing I *can* always say is that I've *never* actively rooted *against* my own team, *let alone* when my team needed a win to have a chance at a Champions League place (let alone *successfully* rooting them to failure)!
Again, Tottenham fans are now the only fans in history to *purposefully* and *successfully* root for the *failure* of their own team to qualify for the Champions League! That will never be forgotten! XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
We Gooners just laugh at the Shite in White. Because, and everyone knows this, at Shite Hart Lane it ALWAYS ENDS IN TEARS!!!! Oooooohhhh to be a Gooner!!
It's like a fight of who can have the most clueless, deluded and insufferable fanbase in the world.
Manure
Tottenham, Chelski and Utd, in that order
They’d both lose out to the scouse
@@JiggingtonSawface nope, there isn't a more clueless set of fans in the world than Gooners, no ones is anywhere near as close. It's literally what has kept them famous and relevant for the last 20 years.
@@darreno2428 gooners at football knowledge Scouse at insufferability in general, in my opinion as a Tottenham fan.
Actually it isn't. It's Chelsea Spurs. The battle of the bridge proved that. Even West Ham has issues with Spurs.
All London clubs hate spurts.
They've both never won owt in Europe, small club rivalry 😂😂😂
Both teams have won the Cup Winners Cup, Spurs have also won the UEFA Cup.
@@matthewharper7941two uefa cups
@@matthewharper7941 Get the bunting out 🎉🎊🎇🎆😂😂😂
Lemme remind you that Arsenal is the 3rd most successful club in English history.
@@bmeshack1021 let me remind you that all that success is based on them being voted into the top league!! They finished 6th and got voted up😂😂 all that success is based on something they didn’t earn!
Spurs suck