How Afghanistan became a failed state

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  • @CaspianReport
    @CaspianReport  3 роки тому +248

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    • @maxplanck2079
      @maxplanck2079 3 роки тому +4

      👍

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 роки тому

      Nope 🤣

    • @navajyotichetia3211
      @navajyotichetia3211 3 роки тому +1

      The late Afghan PM Najibullah hadsaid on the national TV of India Afghanistan has no significant resource except some natural gas. This information coming from the head of state is accurate. (The British could not make it up to Afghanistan and do their geophysical surveys and discover things). Najib's regime ended up with s Soviet military struggle- conditions under which no geologist would be safe to conduct extensive field survey's. This was followed by the US and NATO involvement in Afghanistan. It was a "Pentagon paper that spoke of 3 trillion mineral dream". An ultraconservative society that implores extreme desipline not to dream grandiose dreams matches a small resource base for nation building

    • @ingamgoduka57
      @ingamgoduka57 3 роки тому +2

      Religion & superstitions always has a negative impact in countries development just look at Africa, some countries in South America & some countries in the middle East. But this is one of the saddest video children, women, elderly & families have been torn apart by this endless conflict.

    • @thanhloitran276
      @thanhloitran276 3 роки тому +1

      English subtitles please, your recent video lack it and I can not fully enjoy that

  • @astrumespanol
    @astrumespanol 3 роки тому +5562

    From Monarchy, to Democracy, to Communism, to Mujahideen in the span of a generation

    • @PipMane
      @PipMane 3 роки тому +453

      communism ruined Afghanistan and the Baltics. Sad

    • @dungnguyen-tg5uy
      @dungnguyen-tg5uy 3 роки тому +220

      seem like my vietnam country. it take 40 years to come back from the wheelchair.

    • @goodputin4324
      @goodputin4324 3 роки тому +113

      Mujahideen is not an idealogy

    • @laurencekbautista9629
      @laurencekbautista9629 3 роки тому +87

      It's the Balkans not the Baltics

    • @thitran1362
      @thitran1362 3 роки тому +197

      @@PipMane Not sure about the Balkans part? I mean life under Tito Communist Yugoslavia was relatively better than after his death when all hell break lose between the former Yugoslav states

  • @lionkills1
    @lionkills1 3 роки тому +3357

    Very popular phrase Afghanistan is graveyard of empires. But the reality is Afghanistan is graveyard of Afghans. You look at Soviet invasion 2.5 million afghans died, million got maimed. While 15k soviet troops died. Under american occupation 100k afghans civilians died, 50k Taliban died, 75k afghan forces died. While 2k american troops died. Afghan made 98% deaths in these invasion. Ultimately it's Afghans that pay the ultimate price.

    • @gebys4559
      @gebys4559 3 роки тому +221

      I think it means additionally that those empires themselves collapse not long after as a result of prolonged costly occupation and hubris leading to wounding of national pride.

    • @None-do2qn
      @None-do2qn 3 роки тому +80

      10k total nato troops died

    • @Spartan-jg4bf
      @Spartan-jg4bf 3 роки тому +269

      @@gebys4559 The British Empire didn't collapse until after WW2, WW1 and 2 were what made the British Empire collapse not Afghanistan

    • @Spartan-jg4bf
      @Spartan-jg4bf 3 роки тому +89

      @@None-do2qn that's a lie, the US had highest deaths in NATO and that was 2300, next was Britain with just over 300

    • @gebys4559
      @gebys4559 3 роки тому +12

      @@Spartan-jg4bf well maybe mortally wounded, though that's debated. I think it applies to USSR and probably USA.

  • @Ramschat
    @Ramschat 3 роки тому +2691

    When the king is more democratic than his president...

    • @tomatop6754
      @tomatop6754 3 роки тому +305

      Monarchism > Democracy
      When you get a good king your country will do well. There is no good politicians in the modern era.
      Edit: I never said Monarchism is perfect ._. Stop getting butthurt over a different opinion.

    • @chase0300
      @chase0300 3 роки тому +37

      The Afgan Cincinatus

    • @NG-rb9xz
      @NG-rb9xz 3 роки тому +8

      See the video by Historyphile the DH too

    • @sownheard
      @sownheard 3 роки тому +257

      @@tomatop6754 That's a really unstable roll of the dice 🎲
      You don't wanna land on a mad King.

    • @not_even_known_yet3167
      @not_even_known_yet3167 3 роки тому +84

      @@tomatop6754 Very true, a King who knows what he does, has the Support of his Country and listens to Experts who know what they do will bring a Country very far. He has much more freedom in his actions and therefore can make Decisions quicker. It works as long as everybody is happy.
      Oh I sound like a Royalist... well I see the Pros of an Monarchy.

  • @sfnzmi
    @sfnzmi 3 роки тому +1135

    As an Afghan, you don't know how much I cringe and despise the kinds of videos a lot of UA-camrs make about Afghanistan. So many UA-camrs are ignorant or are uncritical of the information they receive and pass on to us. Your videos and your channel as a whole are such a breath of fresh air. I would absolutely recommend this video, as well as others about the country to friends who are interested about the history of the country.

    • @SerpMolot
      @SerpMolot 3 роки тому +22

      Seems one-sided with a pro-US, pro-Islamist, anti-Soviet agenda.

    • @Riel_Rami
      @Riel_Rami 3 роки тому +59

      @@SerpMolot Bruh

    • @karimm.elsayad9539
      @karimm.elsayad9539 3 роки тому +63

      @@SerpMolot Was any of his information wrong? If he showed clear bias, please show the other perspective on the matter.

    • @nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993
      @nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993 3 роки тому +4

      So sorry for this situation.....n

    • @xman5393
      @xman5393 3 роки тому +16

      Nice I was actually looking for this kind of comment before I watched this video so I feel better about watching it now.

  • @NorthCitySider
    @NorthCitySider 3 роки тому +1289

    Let's be honest though, it was only Kabul that ever came to anything close to resembling a modern society. Rural Afghanistan, particularly Pashtun areas, was always medieval, feudal, and tribal.

    • @kiritugeorge4684
      @kiritugeorge4684 3 роки тому +214

      Its only logical though that the transformations in Kabul would come to affect rural Afghanistan too.

    • @narhankuul
      @narhankuul 3 роки тому +274

      yep. all those photos of women in skirts in 60's photos are just illusion . just a small priviliged class enjoying what wast majority can not even dream about.

    • @Chikanuk
      @Chikanuk 3 роки тому +101

      @@narhankuul Agree its like all this fancy nobles in fancy dresses in 18 century, some people imagine what everyone inc peasants dress like this, lol. Same situation here.

    • @eternalevil3897
      @eternalevil3897 3 роки тому +67

      Isn't it the same for most central Asia and even Indian sub-continent countries? they still have many areas where people are almost disconnected from the rest of the world.

    • @Chikanuk
      @Chikanuk 3 роки тому +78

      @@eternalevil3897 In most such countries in this day contrast is not so big. Right now people have phones and stuff, and in post USSR area everyone have at least basic education. Rural Afghan in this times was a truly medieval country. Prim and proper.

  • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
    @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 роки тому +606

    My mother is 55 years old and she witnessed everything with her own eyes. when she was just a child Afghanistan still had a king

    • @logicalvichar8930
      @logicalvichar8930 3 роки тому +27

      people of Afghanistan have suffered a lot, and now when some reforms were taking place taliban are back it is just disastrous

    • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
      @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 роки тому +23

      @@logicalvichar8930 the country was sold the president did this

    • @nadgobxe
      @nadgobxe 3 роки тому +3

      @@SAMAYDOSTDAR Who voted FOR this president?

    • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
      @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 роки тому +10

      @@nadgobxe 900000 idiots or scamed people in a country of 40 million

    • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
      @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 роки тому +16

      There is even evidence of him cheating in the elections

  • @bl9150
    @bl9150 3 роки тому +223

    "Decades of combat-readiness disintegrated in a matter of days" - is haunting how this happened again in 2021

    • @Hallstyle
      @Hallstyle 3 роки тому +10

      It's amazing how fast incompetence and confusion can creep in almost out of the blue..

    • @joshfish2
      @joshfish2 3 роки тому +19

      It was even worse in 2021 if anything. Many of the Afghan Interim soldiers could not care less about the army in the first place, they just needed the job, they didn't even necessarily care in the cause of the interim government. So it's even debatable if they were ever combat ready. So almost the entire time the US was in there, they were the ones hand holding the Afghan soldiers the entire time
      That and corruption completely ate up what little resistance potential was left

    • @voidwalker7507
      @voidwalker7507 3 роки тому

      What did you say to me?

  • @neoluddite5676
    @neoluddite5676 3 роки тому +264

    There’s a saying in Afghanistan, “Even if your enemies are dead, you still have your cousins”.

    • @sanujgoyal622
      @sanujgoyal622 3 роки тому +5

      Explain?

    • @jango1970
      @jango1970 3 роки тому +12

      does this explain the (reportedly) high number of marriages among first cousins?

    • @Thanatar13
      @Thanatar13 3 роки тому +3

      Pretty sure that's just humanity's motto in general..

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 3 роки тому

      That type of mindset comes from what’s called “Segmentary Lineage”

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 3 роки тому +8

      “Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my COUSINS, me and my cousins against the world.”

  • @Раковийсупець
    @Раковийсупець 3 роки тому +756

    "Good intentions are ubiquitous in politics. What is scarce is a good policymaking" -- I'm def stealing this one

    • @MadnSad
      @MadnSad 3 роки тому +14

      I would like to add my tuppence to this pithy half true statement: politicians wrap self interest with good intentions. Take away self interest, the wrapping itself becomes a precious gift.

    • @Раковийсупець
      @Раковийсупець 3 роки тому +8

      @@MadnSad Politics is done with genuine good intentions more often than you think.
      The failure to implement those leads to the politics of bad intentions, trying to salvage what could be salvaged of the state at the expense of the population. Almost always failing though.

    • @deldia
      @deldia 3 роки тому +4

      People with bad intentions often use the do-gooders front policies.

    • @luxmunk
      @luxmunk 3 роки тому

      Isn’t that the slogan for America?

    • @luxmunk
      @luxmunk 3 роки тому

      @@Раковийсупець maybe in your country, not in the US.
      Politicians fuel their campaigns with so-called good intentions that align with populist wants. Once in office, though, they shed their shrouding of common sense, revealing their true corporatist stripes.
      One needn’t look further than the rotting planks promised by so-called progressives. One might think it is intentional, the simultaneous abandonment of M4A, student debt relief, living wage, reform of police and election finances.
      When citizens remind politicians of their promises and get censored by those promise makers, the true intent is revealed.

  • @951sht
    @951sht 3 роки тому +2161

    Education is Culture, and Culture determines Ideology.
    Very true indeed.

    • @jimboblordofeskimos
      @jimboblordofeskimos 3 роки тому +6

      kinda, for all the talk of 'I own your children' in the 1930s and 40s there was a distinct lack of people of a certain political position in germany in the 1950s

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 3 роки тому +9

      @C L and they understood the importance of free market economy right? Another good example for sure

    • @amrmohamed1387
      @amrmohamed1387 3 роки тому +15

      @C L They ended up being librals, a lot of them.

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 3 роки тому +25

      @Arbane's Sword nah it is education, learning economic theories isn't propaganda at all and it is very affetive on changing peoples ideas. If free market economy and democracy works better and you learn why they work, then you won't ever return to islamism

    • @emilemchew
      @emilemchew 3 роки тому +2

      @@jimboblordofeskimos this is straight up untrue, Nazis occupied all sorts of high ranking positions in the west, the first NATO chairman of the military commission was a Nazi for Christ's sake

  • @colebsb2688
    @colebsb2688 3 роки тому +2031

    "When a game of chess ends, the king and pawn go into the same box." That is a banger line my guy.

    • @hifam6451
      @hifam6451 3 роки тому +47

      I would buy that bumper sticker

    • @Mrosen7542
      @Mrosen7542 3 роки тому +16

      Can't believe I'd hear a Halo line here.

    • @cockiesun
      @cockiesun 3 роки тому +8

      @@Mrosen7542 That's from Halo?

    • @colebsb2688
      @colebsb2688 3 роки тому +24

      @@Mrosen7542 that's not from Halo my guy 😂

    • @oh-itsace9241
      @oh-itsace9241 3 роки тому +5

      @@colebsb2688 its the wire

  • @Allinonetvz
    @Allinonetvz 3 роки тому +381

    “After days of back and forth assassination attempts taraki supposedly died of natural causes” 😂😂😂

    • @hk.32
      @hk.32 3 роки тому +34

      He said "Fine, I'll do it myself"

    • @IRosamelia
      @IRosamelia 3 роки тому +7

      @@hk.32 and mother nature lend him a hand... it's a miracle!

    • @BonafideDG
      @BonafideDG 2 роки тому +1

      Hahaha

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator Рік тому +1

      lmao 🤣

  • @blackkn1ght
    @blackkn1ght 3 роки тому +759

    For those wondering why relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan turned sour. Daud Khan launched a military invasion of Pakistan's tribal belt, which was promptly beaten back by Pakistani militias. After the annexation attempt of Pakistani territory failed, Pakistan retaliated by blockading Afghanistan, and imposing economic sanctions.
    This prompted the king to fire Daud Khan for mishandling relations with Afghanistan's largest trading partner, which was Pakistan.

    • @blackkn1ght
      @blackkn1ght 3 роки тому +204

      Just to add a bit more. Once Daud Khan was fired, Pakistan lifted the blockade, but Pakistan became extremely worried about Afghanistan pulling a similar stunt later all. Pakistan commissioned its newly established intelligence agence, the ISI, to keep write up a strategy on how to handle Afghanistan. This is when Pakistan's ISI started to get involved in Afghanistan's internal affairs.

    • @hars771
      @hars771 3 роки тому +77

      He did that because pakistan's tribal belt & Khyber province is fully pastun dominated & Afghans have never accepted Durand line (present Afganistan-Pak border) because it was decided by the British

    • @hars771
      @hars771 3 роки тому +14

      @@Brahmdagh when did I say Pakistan's army was deployed to fight war
      It's a fact that Afghans don't accept Durand line, don't get so hurt

    • @hunkwasbisyan007
      @hunkwasbisyan007 3 роки тому +31

      @Alfred Weber
      Nope, p*kistan is completely wrong here. They should return the Khybar Pakhtunia province to Afghanistan. p*kistan is nothing more than a British creation.

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому +2

      🟪SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

  • @studentofknowlege
    @studentofknowlege 3 роки тому +460

    Finally, 22 minutes on Afghanistan, I’ve been waiting for this one, thanks Shirvan!

    • @wuhanbiruSux
      @wuhanbiruSux 3 роки тому +7

      Sure it does. Great work 👍 the intro explains alot what went wrong. Commie trained military and capitalist trained technocrats....

    • @Itssmial_Ova
      @Itssmial_Ova 3 роки тому +3

      He's already got some awesome content on Afghanistan

    • @LazyPictures
      @LazyPictures 3 роки тому

      @@wuhanbiruSux Thats the most shittiest and propagandistic analysis from Shirvan ever. As if Afghanistan was a paradise born in 50s out of nowhere and destroyed by commies. That is the most blatant pile of lie I'ver heard in a while.

    • @edmundt.buckley6858
      @edmundt.buckley6858 3 роки тому +4

      @@LazyPictures Nowhere does he call Afghanistan a paradise. Try again. He points out the various conflicting factors that where involved in the collapse of a functional government; all of it being born of a desire to join the modern world and destroyed by missteps in dealing with that world.

    • @bigcity2085
      @bigcity2085 3 роки тому +3

      @@LazyPictures And what's your version professor ? Compared to now,just simple normalcy would be paradise ,eh ? Simple people,living un-oppressed simple lives with hope for the future . Was it there or wasn't it ? Did they have a moment of peace? Yes or no. Professor.

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 3 роки тому +306

    Thanks for covering Daoud's reign, its pretty annoying having to explain how Afghanistan's woes didnt just start with the Soviet invasion and American proxy conflicts

    • @youngimperialistmkii
      @youngimperialistmkii 3 роки тому +32

      I'm glad for this as well. I knew nothing of him before. He broke his country. And it remains broken today.

    • @HueghMungus
      @HueghMungus 3 роки тому +13

      @@youngimperialistmkii So Afghan ruined Afghan, but they blame America... Why not blame Russia as well? 🤔

    • @youngimperialistmkii
      @youngimperialistmkii 3 роки тому +40

      @@HueghMungus All played their part in the disaster. Daoud's hubris and fall drew in the Soviets, gave an opportunity to the Islamists. And eventually drew in the US as well. All had a role in destroying Afghanistan's chance at modernity.

    • @oanonimogreg6487
      @oanonimogreg6487 3 роки тому +19

      But this video tried to portray Daoud Khan in a lighter manner and demonized communism, when in reality Daoud Khan was a corrupt US and Pre-revolutionary Iran-backed dictator that literally plundered his country to enrich himself and his family. He was so hated in Afghanistan that when the Saur Revolution happened he was immediately killed by the military and his death was celebrated.
      This video also downplayed how powerful islamists were in the 1960s, with most madrassas in Afghanistan being controlled at that time by muslim brotherhood-affiliated and deobandi clerics that were already conspiring to overthrow the Afghan monarchy.

    • @salokin3087
      @salokin3087 3 роки тому +2

      @@oanonimogreg6487 Not saying you're wrong, the same can be said of you, but what would be the sources for these points?

  • @arisaga822
    @arisaga822 3 роки тому +556

    When the soviets think your guy is too ruthless, you know you’ve got problems.

    • @byua1835
      @byua1835 3 роки тому +16

      Honestly

    • @paulhunter1525
      @paulhunter1525 3 роки тому +26

      This was excellent research documentary. He also showed how US and others countries supported the Taliban when Russian were in control of country. Now, the US has wasted 20 years and billions of dollars trying to support a corrupt government who gave only lip service to democratic values. Seem nothing as really changed

    • @zolp
      @zolp 3 роки тому +7

      After they leveled a city to the grounds to send a message no less

    • @johndavidmanuel2189
      @johndavidmanuel2189 3 роки тому +1

      @@paulhunter1525 it all started because of russia and the british. How sad , no point blaming US when they obviously got fucked up for a lot different more reason

    • @pecadodeorgullo5963
      @pecadodeorgullo5963 3 роки тому +2

      @@johndavidmanuel2189 Not really. As this video said, things were going good for a while and then things went downhill. Blaming the map drawers for planting the seeds is wrong in this scenario since it had little to do with its demise for once.

  • @Sartanaferre
    @Sartanaferre 3 роки тому +349

    "Good intentions are ubiquitous in politics, what scarce is good policy making" this truth slaps me hard

    • @klytouch7515
      @klytouch7515 3 роки тому +5

      Afghanistan as a nation is not much different from our species of humanity social structure consists of sovereignty of nations, tribalism sovereignarmies, religions, political directions...
      so will we as a species of humanity be a fail species too... ???

    • @alfarojulio-araujo8374
      @alfarojulio-araujo8374 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed.

    • @Jarod-vg9wq
      @Jarod-vg9wq 3 роки тому +1

      Man that is true.

    • @matpk
      @matpk 3 роки тому

      Compare1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist China in your next video project

    • @klytouch7515
      @klytouch7515 3 роки тому

      @@matpk well Nazism Germany didn't have nuclear weapons or the second largest economy.. so..
      I wouldn't want to poke the dragon too much if I were you.. 😊

  • @Much_place8461
    @Much_place8461 3 роки тому +1247

    " When a game of chess ends the king and pawn go in the same box"- Couldn't be summarised any better. Wonderful work @caspianreport

    • @marco_evertus
      @marco_evertus 3 роки тому +37

      That is one of the best quotes I have ever heard from any youtube channel.

    • @moafadel3884
      @moafadel3884 3 роки тому +21

      Fits very well with the caspianreport symbol

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 3 роки тому +14

      It's pretty much just a rehash of the rich and poor going to the same coffin when they die.

    • @yessirjovan
      @yessirjovan 3 роки тому +8

      Except when they go to Dubai with bags full of money

    • @jas1007
      @jas1007 3 роки тому +5

      I am going to steal this quote

  • @saturn_in_blue
    @saturn_in_blue 3 роки тому +640

    _"When the game ends, the king and pawn go into the same box."_
    I teared up a little, thinking of the millions of Afghans who have been buried in boxes over the last 50 years, and the many more that will join them in the next few decades. Afghanistan isn't a graveyard of empires, it's just a graveyard. I'm so sorry for the Afghan people, I hope you will eventually have some peace.

    • @Momo-yl3hs
      @Momo-yl3hs 3 роки тому +2

      I like his retrospective report until he used that game of chase analogy which didn’t really capture what he trying to say as I don’t really get it

    • @e1123581321345589144
      @e1123581321345589144 3 роки тому +52

      @@Momo-yl3hs at the end of the game both the king and the pawn share the same fate.
      The elite of Afghanistan tried to play geopolitics with the great powers and the entire country was lost in the process.

    • @Humanaut.
      @Humanaut. 3 роки тому +42

      @@Momo-yl3hs The analogy means that death is a common shared fate and it does not care if you are a king or a beggar.
      It alludes to the two always being intertwined in their fates and never truly separated from each other in the outcomes.

    • @Humanaut.
      @Humanaut. 3 роки тому +33

      ​@Абдульзефир Bit more complex than that.
      You just watched the video right? So I don't understand how you can still make a statement like that.
      They had a modern economy but they tried to open their markets to foreign capital investments to stimulate their economy. This meant that they had soviet influences and their officers trained in russia, while at the same time having the academic class educated with western ideals. Furthermore some people went to egypt to study and imported egyptian islam from there.
      So the problem really wasn't that they couldn't develop into a modern nationstate.
      The problem was that afghanistan became a proxy battleground for different superpowers and indeologies and this lack of cohesion and homogeneity tore the nation apart, albeit with plenty of force applied from the outside as well.

    • @e1123581321345589144
      @e1123581321345589144 3 роки тому +6

      @Абдульзефир what is a nation? Up until the 19th century the term didn't exist. It's just an arbitrary line in the sand to devide up people into manageable blocks.
      The idea of a nation is in itself flawed. It's an artificial construct with little backing in the real world.
      There is civilisation and there is lack of civilization this can exist with or without a nation. And history has shown us that it is much easier to destroy civilization than to build it.

  • @maxmccarty3684
    @maxmccarty3684 3 роки тому +13

    I am from Afghanistan, and I've never seen such a holistic report on the modern history of Afghanistan. It is awesome.

  • @theobserver3753
    @theobserver3753 3 роки тому +199

    "Good intentions are ubiquitous in politics. What is scarce is good policymaking."
    -Shirvan

    • @SumitSingh-iz9pw
      @SumitSingh-iz9pw 3 роки тому +3

      He speaks fax

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 2 роки тому +1

      One of the best quotes on how politics works

    • @ASLUHLUHC3
      @ASLUHLUHC3 2 роки тому +1

      Bad intentions are also ubiquitous

  • @justrecorded4u984
    @justrecorded4u984 3 роки тому +541

    I think Shirvan feels very sorry for Afghanistan... He released more content about Afghanistan than about any other country or region. Thank you for providing us with insights that media is silent about.

    • @dongately2817
      @dongately2817 3 роки тому +51

      All of Central Asia is basically in crisis mode. Its a situation almost never mentioned in the west.

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan 3 роки тому +27

      Don't we all feel very sorry for Afghanistan
      They were actually seeing a glimmer hope with their economy tripled in size and started producing uni graduate and whoops it's taken away from them

    • @williamdavis9562
      @williamdavis9562 3 роки тому +26

      @@dongately2817 Hard to find a place which was unfortunate enough to fall under Russian influence that isn't in chaos.

    • @dongately2817
      @dongately2817 3 роки тому +3

      @@williamdavis9562 - True

    • @ramr7051
      @ramr7051 3 роки тому +4

      The media is providing plenty of content on Afghanistan dumbass.

  • @flashpointfps7619
    @flashpointfps7619 3 роки тому +334

    "When a game of chess ends, the King and Pawn go into the Same box". Well said

    • @YourGayOverlord
      @YourGayOverlord 3 роки тому +10

      That one gave me a little shiver down my spine. It's a great metaphor, because it doesn't matter who wins the game of geopolitics, both ruler and subject, rich and poor, soldier and civilian, all end up with the same consequences.

    • @samchen9951
      @samchen9951 3 роки тому +11

      I felt that box also meant the coffin

    • @alanrosemberg7393
      @alanrosemberg7393 3 роки тому

      Check the origin of tis quote here quoteinvestigator.com/2019/08/31/chess/

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 3 роки тому +1

      @@samchen9951 Indeed.. My thoughts, exactly! The coffin of Afghanistan..

  • @JasonPrice1
    @JasonPrice1 3 роки тому +148

    Man, wow. There are some details in here that I just never heard before. What a tragic mess. So close to a full renaissance and then, carnage.

    • @wesley-skyehayes26
      @wesley-skyehayes26 3 роки тому +1

      Kinda like Universe 25....

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 3 роки тому +12

      Afghanistan was actually pretty progressive until the Soviets arrived and despite all their failings the US actually was a catalyst for Afghanistan's highest point since the medival age and tried to bring the country back to that point before the country returned to the hell hole that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and China wanted

    • @gwho
      @gwho 3 роки тому

      Never trust news outlets with ties to the state.

    • @gwho
      @gwho 3 роки тому

      @@arthas640 yep.
      Liberalism is superior to human rights and quality of life than communism.
      Every time.

    • @matpk
      @matpk 3 роки тому

      Compare1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist China in your next video project

  • @MrCringedragon
    @MrCringedragon 3 роки тому +50

    Very well written video essay. Things are rarely simple, and Afghanistan's geopolitical history cannot be boiled down to "it was 's fault". I feel for the Afghani people

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 3 роки тому +2

      I fully agree, I think the common phrase "graveyard of empires" needs be changed to "graveyard of Afghans" 😔

  • @jamakasis18
    @jamakasis18 3 роки тому +988

    "Decades of combat readiness collapsed in a matter of days"
    Where i've seen this recently xD

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 3 роки тому +65

      Readiness for what?
      They were taliban- check what tribe they came from.
      Taliban are form they Pashtuns who were elected under Bush’s democracy boner because they were 60+% of Afghanistan.
      Wonder why the soldiers threw down their guns and ran?
      ‘Oh they just sacred’ scared after decades of drone bombs, bombings and worse?
      They didn’t want to shoot because guess what? You don’t shoot who you are sided with, and you can get away with fleeing.

    • @kbz1226
      @kbz1226 3 роки тому +5

      @@silent_stalker3687 you, you are smart my friend why ain’t nobody get this? You explained it so well

    • @abdelkarim8381
      @abdelkarim8381 3 роки тому +19

      @@silent_stalker3687 Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're saying that Taliban are actually from the people and the people actually want them, even those on the other side of the payroll, but you still think they shouldn't rule?
      The west only plays democracy when its pro-them don't they!!

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 3 роки тому +13

      @@abdelkarim8381 yes the taliban are form the people- the Pashtuns.
      Why do you think they were cheering when the taliban showed up.
      ‘It only plays democracy with it suits them’
      Americans just love democracy, See why the president wanted to go to war in the First World War.

    • @adee6467
      @adee6467 3 роки тому +4

      @@abdelkarim8381 if people wanted then don't you think they would have pushed for an election? They came there fighting through barbarism.

  • @1989maihan
    @1989maihan 3 роки тому +193

    Wow! As an Afghan I am impressed at how good this analysis is. You learn a lot from your dad and uncles talking about Afghan politics at bbq's. This video really hit the nail on the head

    • @Roman-kk1ic
      @Roman-kk1ic 3 роки тому +14

      Caspian report guy is Azerbaijani, and most former Soviets understand politics very well, especially Eastern politics.

    • @Roman-kk1ic
      @Roman-kk1ic 3 роки тому +2

      Caspian report guy is Azerbaijani, and most former Soviets understand politics very well, especially Eastern politics.

    • @tomaszzalewski4541
      @tomaszzalewski4541 2 роки тому +1

      Are you safe?

    • @hasansheikh3680
      @hasansheikh3680 Рік тому

      Amin was killed by soviets that part was wrong

  • @grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934
    @grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934 3 роки тому +373

    "as soon as he consolidated power, he turned against his communist allies". Every. Single. Time.

    • @Redditor6079
      @Redditor6079 3 роки тому +20

      Absolute power corrupts absolutely

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho 3 роки тому +34

      What? Communists have infightings all the time, favorite at purging

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 3 роки тому +2

      @@Redditor6079 The Dictator's Handbook?

    • @dontcomply3976
      @dontcomply3976 3 роки тому +7

      The left will eat itself

    • @midnightwatchman1
      @midnightwatchman1 3 роки тому +1

      I am not sure his motives were completely bad. maybe he saw the writing on the wall and that the situation was going to result in a communist takeover

  • @tebohoramaebebe6569
    @tebohoramaebebe6569 3 роки тому +194

    "I'm your host, Shirvan, and welcome to Caspian Report".
    Always gets me excited. You've won yourself a loyal supporter in South Africa.

    • @DanielT-z6v
      @DanielT-z6v 3 роки тому +4

      Ayyyyy, South Africa gang, i wish he'd do a video on South Africa (that didn't just end at the founding if our democracy)

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому

      🔺SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @snare5903
      @snare5903 3 роки тому +5

      @@DanielT-z6v He'll do one when the civil war breaks out.

    • @jikrebelloza
      @jikrebelloza 3 роки тому +1

      @@snare5903 Whose side you got? The commies in the ANC and their corrupt allies in the SAD and SAPD, or unorganised cells of citizens protecting their own? Cape Independence cant happen soon enough lmao

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 3 роки тому +4

      His voice is awesome. Feels nerdy, calm and humble, a sort of sowell vibe.

  • @kabubagachugu7729
    @kabubagachugu7729 3 роки тому +129

    Get power>>Try to Purge opponents >>Lose power>>Another hotshot gains power and the vicious cycle continues.
    Great video.

  • @kphamcao
    @kphamcao 3 роки тому +178

    Vietnamese here, from seeing this my perspective is that the Afghanistan state failed mainly because they lost unity among themselves not because of the superpowers.

    • @iamgreat1234
      @iamgreat1234 3 роки тому +12

      Most of Taliban fighter come from ethnic Pashtun. The British divided Pashtun region into Afghanistan & Pakistan. Pashtun are differences than other South Asian because some of them have blue eyes and blonde hair.

    • @sparklingwaters8990
      @sparklingwaters8990 3 роки тому +19

      Yep, this! Their independence should make them unite, not kill each other. What's wrong with these people?

    • @King_Minos64
      @King_Minos64 3 роки тому +65

      @@sparklingwaters8990 From what I know, Afghans don’t think of themselves as Afghans, or at least countryfolk don’t. They identify with tribe and family moreso. Their rural segments of their society hasn’t changed for centuries. Concepts like nationality, the nation-state, and national identity don’t really exist for them. To them, nothing has changed.

    • @bradsully6620
      @bradsully6620 3 роки тому +5

      @@King_Minos64 Exactly. Also only 1% of the Afghan people know what 9-11 was.

    • @chrishale5213
      @chrishale5213 3 роки тому +18

      Or, or, they never were unified. Kabul was a world different then the rural regions. The Pashtun ethnic groups exist in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Investments came from foreign banks that had little interest in people in Afghanistan.

  • @RussellWarshay
    @RussellWarshay 3 роки тому +84

    Shirvan, this is one of your finest videos, and that’s saying something.

  • @cossacktwofive4974
    @cossacktwofive4974 3 роки тому +305

    "Decades of combat readiness collapsed in a matter of days."
    Where have I seen that?

    • @SlugSage
      @SlugSage 3 роки тому +4

      ANA? Is that you?

    • @utiwari1889
      @utiwari1889 3 роки тому +4

      @@natashagupta4691 Okay, Aditya I'll check your channel out. Happy now?

    • @iamyou8994
      @iamyou8994 3 роки тому +1

      It happens when you are trained by Americans.

    • @Wasabiofip
      @Wasabiofip 3 роки тому +2

      ANA was never really combat ready.

    • @utiwari1889
      @utiwari1889 3 роки тому

      @proud white christian why would india be embarrassed by Taliban?

  • @ethereal2620
    @ethereal2620 3 роки тому +337

    In the game of statemaking, we could easily say this was a very *Hard* scenario.
    - Harsh geography.
    - Autocratic goverments (Kings then dictators). A single bad one can break the country, and it had *two* terrible ones in a row.
    - Purges. So many purges. Anyone still alive will be more paranoid than before.
    - Heavy handed reforms, sometimes using untested methods.
    - Conflicting ideologies, some backed by outside parties.
    - Period of cold war, multiplied by being a buffer state.
    - Very conservative countryside population.
    - A period of rapid technological advancement.
    - Being a crossroads between empires since antiquity.

    • @DesertsOfHighfleet
      @DesertsOfHighfleet 3 роки тому +8

      nightmare*

    • @nickolasbrown3342
      @nickolasbrown3342 3 роки тому +26

      and now they have another ""superpower"" rising to their east. No breaks will be had.

    • @GrigRP
      @GrigRP 3 роки тому +2

      @@nickolasbrown3342 China doesn't interfere in the same manner as US.

    • @osobori
      @osobori 3 роки тому +37

      @@GrigRP yet

    • @GrigRP
      @GrigRP 3 роки тому +4

      @@osobori How much more evidence do you need? Chinese aren't imperialist like yts.

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 3 роки тому +142

    So, the country modernized its cities, "civilizing" - and then some crisis happens and it all falls into Chaos, Civil war, and near barbarism.
    Which country am i speaking of? Libya? Afghanistan? Yugoslavia? Somalia? Iran? Russia before USSR? The Mexico of Diaz? We have seen this often, why are we so often surprised?
    Modernization is hard, and I applaud the countries who managed it.

    • @mosalah8551
      @mosalah8551 3 роки тому +10

      Techno barbarian mad max!

    • @life-destroyerofworlds7036
      @life-destroyerofworlds7036 3 роки тому +24

      Modernization is overrated. It's disruptive to traditional ways of life. Many people around the world prefer tradition.

    • @magtovi
      @magtovi 3 роки тому +28

      The cases of Libya, Iran and Mexico are direct consequences of U.S. meddling.

    • @yulusleonard985
      @yulusleonard985 3 роки тому +8

      Im pretty sure all of them have "liberalist" meddling with its trajectory. Oh btw, Russia was invaded by US before they transform into USSR, not everyone know this.

    • @Momo-yl3hs
      @Momo-yl3hs 3 роки тому +1

      @@magtovi agree

  • @aparson2967
    @aparson2967 3 роки тому +14

    As someone who has read a few books I'd like to say this is brilliant.
    In just a few minutes you bring a breadth of knowledge without a breath of judgment. This is that good!
    I've never seen any of your videos before, and it is really rare for me to subscribe on a first impression. But this is so on topic, that I'm going to roll the dice.
    Nice job!

    • @IRosamelia
      @IRosamelia 3 роки тому

      agreed, I've learned more in this channel than in class

  • @afroangel88
    @afroangel88 3 роки тому +43

    Somehow I feels a bit redeeming to the Afghan people to see someone tell their story in such a beautiful and captivating way❤️

  • @NatashaG1987
    @NatashaG1987 3 роки тому +103

    "Education is culture and culture dictates ideology" THIS is the single answer to everything. Save the children.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 3 роки тому +9

      "Save the children."
      From who and toward whom? Everyone wants to "save the children" from everyone else, and indoctrinate them into their, right way of viewing the world.
      Frankly, I'm very weary of anyone who takes an interest in the political, social or sexual education of children. I know far too many people with ulterior motives.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 3 роки тому +3

      @yohan tristram
      Liberal, I don't have children and I'm an atheist. Unlike you I'm old enough to remember when the Reps tried to push creationism into public school curriculum and how rightfully mad people got. I know you're too young to understand this but conservative isn't a pejorative, and republicans on average aren't bad people. I'm not sure if you have present parents, but I'd advise you to sit down and have some decent conversations with them on the topic if you do.
      Getting your opinions from twitter and tick-toc is no way to live.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 3 роки тому +2

      @yohan tristram
      Ah, the "I hate my dad" brand of 14 year old politics. I hope you grow out of that, was a time I'd have said you _will_ but these days people seem mighty reticent to adjust to adulthood.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 3 роки тому +1

      @yohan tristram
      Yeah, you're 14. Tops.

    • @NatashaG1987
      @NatashaG1987 3 роки тому +1

      @@The_Crimson_Fucker valid, very valid point.

  • @imtiazsohan4633
    @imtiazsohan4633 3 роки тому +264

    One of the most depressing recent historical fact.

    • @MrWarrenRB
      @MrWarrenRB 3 роки тому +5

      Yes, knowing it could’ve all been avoided

    • @kobusg7460
      @kobusg7460 3 роки тому +5

      That was my most immediate thought too after watching this. 5 minutes later, and it is still with me...

    • @PedroPereira-si3sy
      @PedroPereira-si3sy 3 роки тому

      My thoughts exactly the same, my head landed on the table, and it got heavy.
      Although the host talks about the communims ideas fault..
      It's idiots fault. And it seems communism is a default ideology for idiots. For reasons i have still to understand.

    • @TheBlackfall234
      @TheBlackfall234 3 роки тому +1

      @@PedroPereira-si3sy Its not "idiots" fault.
      Its the fault of the Elites who knew how this is gonna play out all along. It was always about destabilizing the Middle East. Always.
      Dont blame this on Idiots, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING !

    • @PedroPereira-si3sy
      @PedroPereira-si3sy 3 роки тому

      @@TheBlackfall234 "the elites" are idiots. Egocentric, brainwashed, ignorant idiots.
      You think "The Elites" are intelligent people? Inteligent people don't need power, or money. Inteligent people understand others, are empathic, understand history, understand that power and weatlh dont matter.
      The ones who think power and weatlh matters, are the ones who are the most weak.
      They are idiots.

  • @anwang6
    @anwang6 3 роки тому +3

    It never ceases to amaze me how much better your videos are than what the largest news agencies produce. Both in context and in detail - you are way beyond all of them.
    Please never stop!

  • @mivapusa
    @mivapusa 3 роки тому +517

    Afghanistan's fate is a lot more tragic whe you realize how close it was to greatness

    • @HueghMungus
      @HueghMungus 3 роки тому +62

      @C L Well islam is always the cause for nation collapse. Which seems to be case. It is like communism which kills people no?

    • @the18thbam17
      @the18thbam17 3 роки тому +33

      @@HueghMungus not really. Islam is never the cause it's always the consequence of cruelty.

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 3 роки тому +56

      @@the18thbam17 nope it is Islam, those kinds of things doesn't happen in extreamist cristian nations but happens all the time extreamist islamic countries

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 3 роки тому +20

      @@HueghMungus not always but DAMN it is a lot of times, when you declare your country as an islamic country, thats it, prepare to leave the country as soon as possible

    • @panzerofthelake506
      @panzerofthelake506 3 роки тому +47

      @@fallendown8828 *AHEM* Nazi Germany, such a Islamic nation.

  • @rosscads
    @rosscads 3 роки тому +63

    This is the most comprehensive, informative, and heartbreaking analysis of modern Afghanistan I have seen anywhere. Wonderful work, Shirvan. 👏🏻

  • @gazpachopolice7211
    @gazpachopolice7211 3 роки тому +29

    So the Afghan Army's habit of giving up without a fight isn't a new phenomenon.

  • @chriss.9662
    @chriss.9662 3 роки тому +7

    Great video as always, provides amazing context to what has happened in the last few decades. Keep up the great work!

  • @malachaiuys711
    @malachaiuys711 3 роки тому +55

    I feel bad for the people of Afghanistan. In the end, they are the ones that suffer the most.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 3 роки тому +4

      You are correct 😞

    • @Ellecram
      @Ellecram 3 роки тому

      @@rejvaik00 Yes the people have to endure the horror of geopolitical chaos. Now it looks like hunger will descend upon them if supplies cannot be replenished.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip 3 роки тому +71

    4:15 Umm... *why* are the Afghan soldiers wearing stahlhelms? Interwar military aid from the leftovers of the Imperial Germans or Austro-Hungarians?!? What a rabbit hole...

    • @johntriplett3188
      @johntriplett3188 3 роки тому +39

      Yes during the interwar Afghanistan aligned itself to Germany and Italy, at least in aid/advisors.

    • @theciakilledjfk5973
      @theciakilledjfk5973 3 роки тому +8

      The stahlhelm is a good helmet.

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 3 роки тому +4

      The rabbit hole gets deeper once you learn about the Jerrycans.

    • @blackpowderuser373
      @blackpowderuser373 3 роки тому +3

      Afghanistan had improved relations with the Axis Powers, especially with Germany during the interwar period. It doesn't help that the country is sandwiched between the Soviet Union and the British Empire (thru the Raj), with both powers playing their Great Game.
      Ultimately, they stayed neutral during WW2.

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 3 роки тому +1

      @@theciakilledjfk5973 true. Modern Kevlar helmets are fairly similar in shape. I've worn Kevlar in service and own a post-war Stahlhelm.

  • @ToxisLT
    @ToxisLT 3 роки тому +49

    a sad, sad story, and such a powerful last sentence. Thanks Shirvan.

    • @lialaliala2968
      @lialaliala2968 3 роки тому

      Yes very sad and Afghan people suffered for so long and I hope the Taliban bring peace and security ✌️

    • @ToxisLT
      @ToxisLT 3 роки тому

      @@lialaliala2968 I hope this is the case of internet, as poor transmission medium for sarcasm?

  • @tonycamacho7473
    @tonycamacho7473 2 роки тому +2

    Another excellent report. As a U.s. citizen, I realize through reporting like this, how little we are informed.

  • @timeflysintheshop
    @timeflysintheshop 3 роки тому +12

    The final bit about the end of a chess game was spot on. Thank you for helping to educate the world. I wish more people cared enough to educate themselves about the world so they could have a reasonable perspective from which to feel compassion for the less fortunate, and be more appreciative of wonderful lives we live in relative comfort and safety. This may have been your best video yet. Keep up the good work.

  • @cageybee7221
    @cageybee7221 3 роки тому +231

    "when a game of chess ends, the king and pawn end up in the same box" what a fucking line holy shit!

  • @cssoversimplified
    @cssoversimplified 3 роки тому +102

    "When the game of chess ends, the king and the pawn go into the same box." I loved it.

  • @ASLUHLUHC3
    @ASLUHLUHC3 2 роки тому +9

    'Islamists were rambling about the end of days" always gives me a chuckle

  • @chrishale5213
    @chrishale5213 3 роки тому +72

    "When the game of chess ends, the King and the Pawn go in the same box".BARS! Does Shirvan quote from ancient central asian philosophers I need to be reading or is he just the Poet of our times?

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 3 роки тому +3

      That's what I would like to know as well.

    • @hermione6834
      @hermione6834 3 роки тому +6

      From what i know it is Moris Pockhishvili 1930-1993, Georgian poet. The poem was called ''Quenn's gambit''.

    • @cockiesun
      @cockiesun 3 роки тому

      According to the internet it's an 'Italian proverb' but I've seen it attributed to others in the comments.

  • @youngimperialistmkii
    @youngimperialistmkii 3 роки тому +80

    "Desire spawns madness. Madness spirals into disaster. Mankind never learns."

    • @mgntstr
      @mgntstr 3 роки тому +1

      How can she ever learn when it is the death penalty to read such books, and has been for generations.

    • @youngimperialistmkii
      @youngimperialistmkii 3 роки тому +1

      @Alex Mamani Yup I love that game😊

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому

      🟣SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @eyeofthepyramid2596
      @eyeofthepyramid2596 3 роки тому

      Then how can we achieve that desire

  • @agentorange2113
    @agentorange2113 3 роки тому +58

    Just because a country is unconquerable doesn't mean it's any good to live in.

    • @jjdelft3216
      @jjdelft3216 3 роки тому +4

      Why would it be unconquerable? Mongols? British?

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew 3 роки тому +5

      Vietnam, never was conquered. In war many people have died. Afghanistan is more like a graveyard of Afghanistan then graveyard of empires.

    • @someon713
      @someon713 3 роки тому +3

      @@jjdelft3216 even persian and Indians conquered Afghanistan at times. Note that this was around 200BC in India and post AND pre christ in Persia (Iran and Iraq).

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому

      ♦️SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @-3696
      @-3696 3 роки тому

      Many empires conquered Afganstan.

  • @uroboroh
    @uroboroh 3 роки тому +5

    Great video, Shivran! I am just sorry you stopped in the middle of the process! This deserves "part II" :-)

  • @TheShootist
    @TheShootist 3 роки тому +35

    Afghanistan was only a "state" when occupied by UK, USSR or US. Otherwise there was the Mayor of Kabul and the Tribal Elders.
    anything else is gaslight.

    • @amolkhobaragade
      @amolkhobaragade 3 роки тому +2

      @@nazoko5 Afghanistan didn't existed before 1747.

    • @Fireneedsair
      @Fireneedsair 3 роки тому

      @@nazoko5 yep..”untied”

    • @nazoko5
      @nazoko5 3 роки тому +4

      @@amolkhobaragade people have lived in Afghanistan for more than 10 000 years continuously. It is one of the world's first civilizations. It has gone by many names, it does not mean the people and land did not exist. Science, philosophy, math, astronomy, medicine, poetry all have their roots in this area of the world. Learn proper history before making stupid comments.

    • @ivanpchelin7912
      @ivanpchelin7912 3 роки тому +1

      @@nazoko5 there's nothing bad in having ancestors which climbed the trees. But it's worrying to have in XXI-st century the relatives who failed to go down back on earth.

  • @vincentgroudeniutes1655
    @vincentgroudeniutes1655 3 роки тому +28

    again one of your many Masterpieces from history and geopolitics
    Thank you for your enlightement

  • @War4theWest
    @War4theWest 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent summary of Afghanistan's collapse, thanks for this. What makes me so sad about the state of the West is how rarely we do serious analysis of issues. You are a breath of fresh air and serious analysis.

    • @War4theWest
      @War4theWest 3 роки тому

      @Marka Ragnos Oh really? So you've seen a good summary of recent Afghan history presented by other 'yakkers' on this topic? I haven't. Not one actually.

  • @andro7862
    @andro7862 3 роки тому +132

    18:45 It's well known that the Spetsnaz killed him in Operation Storm 333. His death is actually a bit hilarious considering that he didn't know what was going on and yelled “call the Soviets” in a panic, while Soviet special forces were storming his house. I like to think some of the operatives yelled back “we're here!😜” before turning him into swiss cheese.

    • @levvy3006
      @levvy3006 3 роки тому +13

      The Spetsnaz are based.

    • @lape2002
      @lape2002 3 роки тому +15

      Yep, what's up with that?? How could he miss mentioning that Amin was indeed gunned down in that famous Spetsnaz operation, not just killed by internal conflict.

    • @gwho
      @gwho 3 роки тому +3

      Communists...

    • @philipmann5317
      @philipmann5317 3 роки тому +8

      I saw that in a film about the speznast. They decided to go in , on their own, without approval or thinking about what they were doing. Typical drunken Soviet policy.

    • @meatiest1989
      @meatiest1989 2 роки тому

      Amin deserved it

  • @Deripse
    @Deripse 3 роки тому +69

    18:45 I think Amins demise is well documented to be the result of Soviet assault at his palace (operation Storm 333 ).

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому

      🌓SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @johnhuang3278
      @johnhuang3278 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah pretty obvious mistake

    • @GSHERPA
      @GSHERPA 3 роки тому +4

      and Soviets and Russians have made documentaries and songs about this operation explaining in great details how it was done.

    • @FritzHeiger
      @FritzHeiger 3 роки тому

      Correct. Amin's assassination was a result of combined operation of KGB special groups "A" ("Alpha") and "Vimpel".

  • @dyzoly
    @dyzoly 3 роки тому +17

    Finally a comprehensive but still short docu about Afghanistan. Thank you!

  • @dr.williamkallfelz8540
    @dr.williamkallfelz8540 2 роки тому +3

    "Good intentions are ubiquitous in politics. What is scarce is good policy-making." Well stated! Thank you for such substantive and succinct content (a rare combination, for sure 🙂).

  • @koontekinte0
    @koontekinte0 3 роки тому +51

    as princess bride had taught us: never get involved in a land war in Asia.
    this was a great, great video. can't wait to have the time for your "grave of empires" series.

    • @VastGameMaster
      @VastGameMaster 2 роки тому

      Whatever, wars can happened anyware and it dosen't care where you live.

  • @NotYowBusiness
    @NotYowBusiness 3 роки тому +101

    "Were the Soviets involved? We don't know, but it wouldn't be out of character." BEST LINE LOL

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden 3 роки тому +9

      They literally carpet bombed Herat city and killed 25k people for protesting, lmao
      What an insane regime that existed.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 роки тому +8

      Communism would've saved Afghanistan. It could've been a very rich country, kinda like a smaller China with a booming mining industry.
      Radical islam and Western Imperialism ruined Afghanistan.

    • @deadmartian3271
      @deadmartian3271 3 роки тому +9

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan communism would've ruined it just as same as radical Islam and western imperialism did . china thrives today because it figured out what works for them and embraced a policy of practicality.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 роки тому +5

      @@deadmartian3271 I strongly disagee. Communism would've turned Afghanistan into an economic powerhouse like China because under Afghani ground there's trillions upon trillions of resources.
      Imagine those going to the Afghan people. Under communism. Under capitalism they'd just get looted like Congo. And the Taliban are medieval rubes who can't extract said wealth.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 роки тому +2

      @@deadmartian3271 Afghanistan could've been a second China, an economic powerhouse. If only they'd went with communism.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 3 роки тому +31

    How it happened so fast :
    The Talibs do negotiate with the soldiers, they ask them to join the Talibs, before they fight. There was no resistance, because they gave an option to join the Tailbs.
    Same as Julius Cesar did with his conquests. Old tactic that works, if you have the larger or more scary, or more wealthy army.
    In that case the former Afghan soldiers were afraid of the Talibs. So they joined them and their promised payroll.

    • @007mrwho
      @007mrwho 3 роки тому +6

      I do notice in some news deep into the rabbit hole that Most of Afghan Forces haven't been paid, some even months thanks to the corruption. Taliban (Islamic Emirate now) in a twist of ironic fate paid most if not all their fighters well. Probably not as professional as modern countries but still better systemized than the former govt

    • @MietoK
      @MietoK 3 роки тому +5

      Quality of quantity. If your army is composed of drug users, retards and criminals and leaders are hired by nepotism instead of skill he results are like this.

    • @wussrestbrook1200
      @wussrestbrook1200 2 роки тому +1

      @Obscure Wondering why does the us recognize saudi then

  • @Gohary936
    @Gohary936 3 роки тому +2

    Man, you are always there to put context where it's most needed. Super good video and one that is most timely. Thank you. I have learned something new today.

    • @tempulus9228
      @tempulus9228 3 роки тому

      Hi Gohary, if you like history, please consider checking out my timeline of the 150+ most important people in history :)

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 роки тому +33

    The description of Afghanistan in the 60s sounds like Iran in the 50s and Egypt in the early 60s.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban 3 роки тому +4

      Everywhere was better pre 70’s

    • @Kintabl
      @Kintabl 3 роки тому +5

      I don't know what went wrong. How did islamist win at the end in those countries.

    • @kko5779
      @kko5779 3 роки тому +6

      @@Kintabl because Islam is the true religion

    • @bonhamcarter4488
      @bonhamcarter4488 3 роки тому +8

      @@kko5779 in your dreams lol!

    • @Kintabl
      @Kintabl 3 роки тому

      @@kko5779 If islam is so great why so many muslims flee from muslim majority counties? And then you have stupid muslims in the west who practice the same shit they fled from.

  • @Merle1987
    @Merle1987 3 роки тому +56

    It really does sound like it all comes down to Daud Khan. Although if they had picked a side to begin with, they might have been better off. What makes a nation great, or at least not a failed state, seems to depend on so many accidental factors.

    • @bonhamcarter4488
      @bonhamcarter4488 3 роки тому

      @Alfred Weber nothing wrong in being adventurous

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому

      🟢SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @agathonchristianto9580
      @agathonchristianto9580 3 роки тому +2

      How is trying to be neutral and be an independent nation instead of being a lapdog such a bad thing?
      Who knew that not a single country during the cold war has a right to be independent against the world's competing superpower?
      Do u think they have no right to rule their country without a foreign overlord dictating what they should and shouldnt do?
      Of course it ended badly ... only because those villainous warmonger sabotaged them and incite an uprising or a coup.

    • @NaCk210
      @NaCk210 3 роки тому

      Playing both sides may have seemed like a smart strategy but judging by both how afghanistan and yugoslavia ended up, in retrospect it may have been a mistake.

  • @corneliusx1811
    @corneliusx1811 3 роки тому +22

    Afghanistan was a nice country in the 1960's. Many Peace Corps Volunteers worked there. Americans were well liked. Oh well, that was a long time ago. Good video.

  • @MSCH1954
    @MSCH1954 3 роки тому +9

    One of the best videos about Afghanistan. So true, neutral and logical. Afghans destroyed Afghanistan but they would not accept it. They blame everyone except themselves.

    • @justjules2029
      @justjules2029 3 роки тому +1

      👏👏👏👏

    • @__martian__
      @__martian__ 3 роки тому

      Yeah, because foreign intervention had nothing to do with its demise. Dummy, did you even watch the video?

    • @MB2.0
      @MB2.0 2 роки тому

      Yes, Afghans are who funded the Mujahideen and bombed the country to the ground. Afghans are sanctioning themselves into starvation.

    • @MSCH1954
      @MSCH1954 2 роки тому

      @@MB2.0 Yes, you are 100 percent right. First Afghan communists destroyed Afghanistan in Eighties and the whatever was left destroyed by so called Freedom Fighters in civil war of 1990s.

    • @MB2.0
      @MB2.0 2 роки тому

      @@MSCH1954 and none of those people would have come to power or used high caliber weapons without foreign intervention. That's like blaming Chile for the US assassinating their leader and bringing an unpopular fascist to power. Either you're dishonest or just mentally impaired. Good day.

  • @Pelasgio26
    @Pelasgio26 3 роки тому +22

    00:14 seconds, the images show the National Historical Museum of the Republic of Albania, has nothing to do with Afghanistan!

    • @w199610
      @w199610 3 роки тому +9

      Also, at 4:41 it shows the old city of Ait Ben Haddou in Morocco. Getting pretty lazy with the stock footage.

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому +1

      🟣SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

  • @yurypal
    @yurypal 3 роки тому +7

    Brilliant report! I love these historical retrospectives by CR.

  • @martinlewis3547
    @martinlewis3547 3 роки тому +3

    This is one of the most eye opening videos I've seen in a while. Very well done! It's crazy the similarities between what's going on with the west atm and the downfall of Afghanistan, people need to watch this video!

  • @The_SkullKnight
    @The_SkullKnight 3 роки тому

    I've read few history books and recently seen many videos about Afghanistan but almost all of them either talk old history or the recent times. This video filled much needed gap, Really appreciate it.

  • @lumptydumpty6992
    @lumptydumpty6992 3 роки тому +10

    This is just fantastic(the content, not what happened to Afghanistan lol), the quality of your content is just great. So well researched, sound is dead on, great background music and relevant and timely visuals.
    Freaking love when your videos extend towards that 20 minute mark!

  • @QuentinWatt
    @QuentinWatt 3 роки тому +45

    Bro! 7:42 Is footage of (semi-rural) Cape Town not Afghanistan. :/

    • @dislikehate-adanac5107
      @dislikehate-adanac5107 3 роки тому

      He probably lacked off ideas.

    • @MsBeeMaya1
      @MsBeeMaya1 3 роки тому +1

      Wow, I'm disappointed if that's true

    • @Vilakazi
      @Vilakazi 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, yeah. It looks like kayelisha.

    • @FanOfZwicky
      @FanOfZwicky 3 роки тому +5

      I mean, it is probably hard to get a drone footage of Kabul in the 1960's.

  • @9xprincess
    @9xprincess 3 роки тому +7

    Daud Khan seems to have been the catalyst for the seemingly never ending storm Afghanistan has been in for decades.

  • @sahilshah6236
    @sahilshah6236 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant! Loved how you didn't pin the blame on any community but meticulously explained in a chronological sense how it all became a clusterfuck. It is painful to see ordinary Afghans and their descendants paying the price for bad policy making,.

  • @chance20m
    @chance20m 3 роки тому +8

    20:20 "An incredibly ruthless strategy of depopulation". Remember that next time somebody says the U.S. could have won if only we'd been more "tough."

    • @Remus-z6y
      @Remus-z6y 3 роки тому +4

      Well that strategy worked for Alexander the Great, he was able to pacify Afghanistan, though he was more brutal than the Soviet’s. If I remember correctly he massacred like 1/3 of the population. Which lead to Greek rule for over 150 years. To the ancient Afghani’s credit, they gave Alexander one of or possibly his toughest campaigns. The reason he resorted going from village to village burning them to the ground was because of the stiff resistance they put up. Those that did submit to him would be given tons of gifts, so it really turned into a policy of either death or accept my rule and get some cash. Also, I’m definitely not supporting that tactic at all, in case anyone reading this comment takes this comment way wrong, just like sharing random history facts.

    • @joannaa.5101
      @joannaa.5101 3 роки тому

      I wish truly wise men were in power that the people can see as reasonable. Not an ideal our or friend just wise and not crooks.

  • @colinstewart1432
    @colinstewart1432 3 роки тому +3

    This is impressive work. Complex political analysis in a style that's easy to understand 😎 keep up the good work guys👍👍

  • @GrigRP
    @GrigRP 3 роки тому +29

    Shirvan, you were wrong about Amin's death. Soviet soldiers raided his palace and assassinated him.

  • @grovand
    @grovand 3 роки тому +2

    Best video in YEARS! got goosebumbs! good job sirvan

  • @mjmal3741
    @mjmal3741 3 роки тому +17

    I never knew how bad things had gotten in the middle east until I started watching your channel. It's devastating. You describe the history so clearly, it's amazing

    • @gamer42go21
      @gamer42go21 3 роки тому +1

      Afghanistan aint in the middle east. It’s in central asia

    • @capncake8837
      @capncake8837 3 роки тому +1

      @@gamer42go21 I think it is actually considered part of the Middle East.

    • @gamer42go21
      @gamer42go21 3 роки тому

      @@capncake8837 nah check again. South centra asia

    • @IRosamelia
      @IRosamelia 3 роки тому

      @@gamer42go21 the original comment didn't say Afghanistan was part of the Middle East though...

    • @AFGsultanZ
      @AFGsultanZ 2 роки тому +1

      @@capncake8837 It can be considered Middle East in terms of historical context due to the fact that it was part of Persia (Iran) for a long time and the people and so forth. But geographically, it’s considered Central Asia, even debated to be considered as South Asia.

  • @johnhuang3278
    @johnhuang3278 3 роки тому +50

    Amin was assassinated by the Soviets (Operation Storm 333) and not due to infighting, seems a rather obvious mistake on this channels part.

    • @LegitModMenuZ
      @LegitModMenuZ 3 роки тому +8

      Agreed. Surprised that this was left out.

    • @giantspacemonstr
      @giantspacemonstr 3 роки тому +1

      There are two versions of history, my friend.

    • @tonygorilla8928
      @tonygorilla8928 3 роки тому +8

      @@giantspacemonstr Don't think so. The Soviets units were incorporated into local muslim battalions to make it seem like an inside job, but now it's pretty clear they were elite KGB men.

    • @giantspacemonstr
      @giantspacemonstr 3 роки тому +1

      @@tonygorilla8928 I'm not saying that's the truth. I'm saying truth is what most people believe in. And people are free to believe whatever truth they like best. Two versions of history. Same outcome, different faces. Where does the narrator stand, it's hard to guess.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 роки тому

      Amin was corrupt. Communism would've saved Afghanistan. It could've been a very rich country, kinda like a smaller China with a booming mining industry.
      Radical islam and Western Imperialism ruined Afghanistan.

  • @matthewmcqueen1481
    @matthewmcqueen1481 3 роки тому +19

    "When a game of chess ends, the king and pawn go into the same box" Damn that was powerful. Great Video. Very Informative

  • @foxbat296
    @foxbat296 3 роки тому +1

    You are our host Shirvan and we wait for you .. thanks for the wonderful clip.

  • @khamsican1
    @khamsican1 3 роки тому +15

    That was an incredibly well-prepared video to tell the sad story of Afghanistan. Thank you for sharing it with us, Shirvan. As someone from the region, I understand and share your feeling of sadness about the state of Afghanistan.

  • @ramihafiane4289
    @ramihafiane4289 3 роки тому +26

    Learned more about afghan history in these 22 mn than in my entire life, thank you. Would love to see a part 2.

  • @ddpmk355
    @ddpmk355 3 роки тому +29

    0:14 that is Albania, not Afghanistan

    • @NorthCitySider
      @NorthCitySider 3 роки тому +5

      I think he mashed together footage from various countries along with Afghanistan for better effects.

    • @bajlozi6873
      @bajlozi6873 3 роки тому +4

      I got confused when I saw that familiar mosaic in a video about Afghanistan

    • @natashagupta4691
      @natashagupta4691 3 роки тому +1

      🟣SERCH ADITYA RATHORE- HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

    • @elirdbojaxhi7118
      @elirdbojaxhi7118 3 роки тому +1

      I understand that mashed footage was used but that mural is symbolic of Albanian wars of independence. It’s like using footage of raising the flag in Iwo Jima as part of Afghan history.

  • @Dayvit78
    @Dayvit78 3 роки тому +1

    This was a lot more comprehensive and understandable than I was expecting. Though I should have expected it since Caspian Report is always on point when it comes to Central Asian affairs. Great work!

  • @FOLIPE
    @FOLIPE 3 роки тому +30

    In the 1960s things were looking up for everybody - it seemed that Brazil, Chile, Mexico and Argentina would continue democratic and become rich in a generation or two. Most of the middle east was relatively similar, seemed to be progressing socially and economically. But geopolitics made it harder to progress and simply all those who had bad local politics failed, more or less depending on the case, but in either economy or politics (usually both) we all regressed after that

    • @SirFaceFone
      @SirFaceFone 3 роки тому +23

      I'd say the Cold War played a terrible part, especially the US and USSR meddling in other countries' affairs.

    • @sm3675
      @sm3675 3 роки тому +3

      @@SirFaceFone yes.

    • @dongately2817
      @dongately2817 3 роки тому +1

      Its like the old saying - Brazil will always be the country of the future.
      I think corruption and greed are the key players in any country's struggle for legitimacy.
      Look at the United States. Our politics are becoming untenable in their present form.

    • @ShinigamiInuyasha777
      @ShinigamiInuyasha777 3 роки тому +1

      Argentina was NOT a democracy

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 роки тому +3

      Brazil, Argentina Chile all had brutal dictatorships. Brazil still has a fascist leader.
      Chile had Pinochet, the Hitler of the Andes. A well earned title. He was a ruthless, murderous monster

  • @prenus1350
    @prenus1350 3 роки тому +22

    So the groups just chipped away at each other until there was nothing

  • @fahadrind4332
    @fahadrind4332 3 роки тому +30

    Gotta love the MGSV reference "Afghanistan's a big place."

  • @bertone83
    @bertone83 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for this fantastic video, Shirvan.

  • @mma_3139
    @mma_3139 3 роки тому +9

    Just a couple points to add:
    - Taraki was murdered by Amin. He had 3 members of the military suffocate him with a pillow.
    -Amin was despised by the Soviet leadership and was deposed by the Soviets.
    My family grew up in Afghanistan and seems the leadership of Zahir Khan and the first few years of Daud Khan were seen as the golden age of modern Afghan History.

  • @rishu2252
    @rishu2252 3 роки тому +3

    Just wonderful. Thanks for giving indepth insight.
    🙏🙏

  • @REALILLYRIAN4LIFE
    @REALILLYRIAN4LIFE 3 роки тому +15

    0:15 talks about Afghani infrastructure of 1960. Yet it includes in the video the National Theater of Albania as an example...

  • @McRyach
    @McRyach 3 роки тому

    @CaspianReport is the best in depth look at middle-east and central Asia politics. Thank you.