Nick Land, Chaos Magick, And Hyperstition Ft. Schizotopia | The Postmodern Iconoclast
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Georgina Rose, a thelemite and western mystic, speaks with Maxwell Cody of Schizotopia, a schizoposter and theorygram understander, about hyperstition, theory-fiction, accelerationism, the ideas of Nick Land, the CCRU, transhumanism, the metaphysics of technology, time loops, the tension between the deep past and deep future, transhumanism, luddism, manifestation, and chaos magick.
To state the obvious, and appease the internet hall monitors, discussion of ideas does not equate to endorsement ;).
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At 24:47 I say Kenneth Grant when I meant Grant Morrison. My bad, but easy to imagine why I'd be confusing those two famous Grants on this pod. In any case, here is the legendary speech in question: ua-cam.com/video/KTMFBYXmvMk/v-deo.html
Sometimes when I mention Kenneth Grant or Kenneth Anger in a text discussion with people, I sometimes accidentally write the other's name, even though I don't get confused between the two. It's a funny Freudian slip type habit lol
Never assume your audience knows who your guest is. This is my first time listening, I don't know who Schizotopia is.
But don't misunderstand me, I'm a big fan of you, Georgina!
Great point tbh !
hyperstition reminds me of how I would think that stuff people joking with me about via banter was actually real because of my autism and thus I would make myself look really dumb
LMAO. I think there's something deeper to that, actually. I feel that "reality is autistic" fundamentally. No, I will not elaborate.
@@okquentinI love that! Reality doesn’t interpret it only takes the face
One of the most worthwhile occult presentations I've seen in a while. i wonder if you've come across Chris Langan and the CTMU? I hear a lot of crossover with some of the subjects talked about and concepts generated by the CTMU.
I feel that “ it’s true but it’s annoying“ re : technology so hard. This is good. This is a good one.
“Protestantism,” as institutionalized as some of it can be, kind of varies in ideology from weird small town to other weird small town. Hard to generalize these days; everyone’s breaking into their specialized groups, even mainstream religions. It seems.
Why shouldn't there be an esoteric dimension to technology? No one knows the ultimate laws of physics or the nature of reality.
your last episode with schizotopia sent me on a 2yr rabbit hole
Something spooky and fascinating about this. Reading Cyclonopedia was a strange experience
There is a spirit within a certain hierarchy that guides these trends. The angels work with the individual, the archangels work with the groups, the archai work with the group through time.
I would love a series on this podcast where you and the guest discuss various thelemic texts. I'd love a detailed breakdown of the book of the law or vision and the voice for example
This girl is so beautiful this is the only way I can listen without being distracted.
Windows is NOT open source. You got it mixed up with Linux/Unix, and that's a big mix-up.
I had hd dreams of true hells, like nightmarish, but those are those nodes you were talking about earlier
Time stamps would really help
I was looking forward to this discussion as an introduction to your channel, especially due to the subject which is fairly complex, but then in his first sentence your guest loudly swore and proceeded to arrogantly assume reputation. I am no prude but if this is the calibre of the people this channel regards as expert then I have no interest in giving it any of my valuable time. Two minutes in, not listening further.
Flat earth is how 4th spacial-dimension entities would see the world
Are you familiar with Montalk's writing? The ideas you talk about here and egregores/memes are interesting to juxtapose with his ideas of higher dimensional non time-linear realities. To me my whole thinking of Occult and Deities was shaped by this. Are Egregores/memes actually generated by beings limited by 3D perception (most of us not gifted by Occult or proficient at various Occult ritual and Gnosis) or seeded in us my higher dimensional beings to manifest in our dimension? I could talk about Land and how important he is but people would get pissed off. It would be like talking about Nietzsche in the Abrahamist thought Cathedral of the late 19th Century as he goes against present Dogmas in the strongest ways.
Who's montalk you made me think of montauk lol
@@getsmartquick I don't know if he took his name from it. He's a sort of Neo-Gnostic. I like his cosmology. It's not purely new but he refines a lot of ideas: Synchronicity, Dieties influencing mundane reality, Gnosticism, The Kyballion's ideas of different planes of life, energy and matter. He puts all his writing online. Just search Montalk. I wondered if Georgina has read him. It would be interesting to see her do a video on him; I think she'd like it.
thank you for your work
Do you know anything about buddhism? What are your ideas about the eastern religions ?
26:09 faith without works is dead
Diamond Age is a good Cyber-Punk-esque novel that gets very metaphysical.
I like aetherian society, where we somehow inherit the ability to thrive in the vacuum of space with a superreal source of light and life
Jus fisnhed FIRE EP 🥂
Cool show.
What if there are as many types of religions as there are types of shapes
Isn't Nick Land a fascist. Like he subverted Deleuzian and Nietzschean ideas to a hard far right bend. Still will listen
From about 2010-ish when he started hanging out with Moldbug, yes. CCRU-related work, Thirst for Annihilation, and Fanged Noumena aren't. Worth a look.
He's a marxist
I don't think so. Even if he was. who cares? Who are you to deny someone's will and freedom of thought?
@@betos-08 Nobody is doing that. By your own logic you are denying our freedom to criticize. Marx was a genocidal maniac so it's valid to hate marxists, and I am free to do so.
@@VonSternberg777 Do whatever idc. It just seems really stupid to try to make someone look bad by guilt of association or to do some lame ad hominem based on an accusation. Critique ideas, no need to try to slander a person.
Man i had to go to the source for this stuff ! Haha bird person reality is not Aetherial reality. Like heinleins Mark of the Beast, where even imaginary reality is reality somewhere. Like story telling is more than just storytelling. It only exists if you create it, and are hyperstitious about it
cyber spirituality
wow this is an amazing podcast!! 🤯🤯 can't wait to listen to the rest!
Following manifestation laws if there is more life on earth than the outer solar system than the life on earth manifests what the outer solar system will be and look like
The shape pf the solar system is actually just a reflection of the life within it
Thank you so much I was literally looking up an audiobook about dis the other night!!
The woo swims in you xD the universe is making love to us lmao, i believe life is supposed to be a pleasurable thing, and i think that pain and pleasure is a main dichotomy of life, which is why asceticism holds value, but existence is a frequency of pleasure-pain
Thank you for this miss i truly appreciate this
There is a sun within the earth. The moon was separated from the sun and so the earth was birthed. The moon is what has become separated from without.
What are the obligations of sentient life?
Freedom
@@abraxasfraxinus7744 must be gradually unconstrained by reality to be free, but how does one not lose themselves out there
U heard of roko’s basilisk?
U SAID IT
Do you feel that Georgina ?
You can almost taste what’s going to happen can’t you
This type of vague pretentiousness is something that I despise because of how easy it is to sound intellectually informed without ever laying out a concrete foundation for outside observations to follow along. And I already know you're going to assume a whole lot about me from this comment which will be miles from the truth.
@@abraxasfraxinus7744
Maybe you don’t feel it.