Sorry that you lost your birds man!! I think the Late start accounts for most of your losses. I set my birds out each day for at least a week before they could actually fly. They look great though!!
I always liked to soak my birds before letting them out for the first time. It tends to stop them flying up and away as soon as they're let out the loft for that first time.
Hello. I once had a dream , where I had a cage within a cage. The inner cage had a bird in it. And the outer cage had an opening at the top. The silly hawk would jump in and get stuck trying to jump out. One day I may use this dream to retrieve lost pigeons. Thnks.
How long do you trap train them for? How old are they when you let them out? Iv heard older birds become "to strong on the wings", better to let them out when they are young and just starting to learn how to fly.
Some of them were way too old (4 months) due to waiting on hired help to finish that loft, but they were trap trained for about three weeks to try to offset.
the start is put birds on the roof in a training cage for a couple of days get them hungry and toss them hungry to the trap only after they trap to whistle birds need to be hungry no food in them then let out hungry only once they no your whistle if your birds are not hungry before they are homed good by Charlie.
I think the biggest issue is they got started too late due to waiting on the hired help to finish this loft. Even though they had a lot of time in the settling pen and were actively trapping on command, I think they were too strong once the settling door was open. Add a bunch of Cooper's hawks and it's so long.
You're letting these pigeons out too late if they get too old you're going to end up losing them you got to put them out when they Young when they squeaking that's what happens with the homers
I think age was probably a factor on this group of racers, though these sort of losses have also been common in my rollers for about the last three years. It was not an issue during the 15 or so years prior. Same location. Same settling methods. I think the age issue just aggravated an already existing issue.
I used to just pull the flights except 9 and 10 and by time they grew back they were locked in and it avoided the temptation to get them out too early. The problem now vs. then is the number of Cooper's always looking to take young ones off the rooftop or even off the ground. I'm probably going to have to incorporate some sort of roof size settling pen along with restricting the ability to fly too soon just to dodge both bullets.
@@kerbyjackson88 i had same problem with hawks and i changed my flight time and i caged my birds for 1 or 2 weeks now i have no problem letting my birds outside to fly, so this may help you as well, also maybe hawks has a nest nearby, put some old CD’s this also reflects them to coming to your house.
@@Samim_01 I pretty much get clobbered regardless of fly time. Earlier in the year, I had switched to flying at sunset and got by for months without an attack. Then one evening a single Cooper's hawk appeared and ever since, attacks have been an issue again. I think they spend much of their time waiting nearby. There is a flock of mutts that someone free flys about 1/4 mile away and I tend to think that keeps them in the immediate vicinity during all hours of the day. I've got a couple dozen of the silver spiral bird scarers hanging around the property, but they don't seem to have any real effect.
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Sorry that you lost your birds man!! I think the Late start accounts for most of your losses. I set my birds out each day for at least a week before they could actually fly. They look great though!!
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Sorry for the loss man
Thanks. Easy come, easy go, I guess.
I always liked to soak my birds before letting them out for the first time. It tends to stop them flying up and away as soon as they're let out the loft for that first time.
I may have to start doing that again, along with putting some sort of little fence along the roof line to keep them from falling off.
Hello. I once had a dream , where I had a cage within a cage. The inner cage had a bird in it. And the outer cage had an opening at the top. The silly hawk would jump in and get stuck trying to jump out. One day I may use this dream to retrieve lost pigeons. Thnks.
Thanks for sharing your dreams.
How long do you trap train them for? How old are they when you let them out? Iv heard older birds become "to strong on the wings", better to let them out when they are young and just starting to learn how to fly.
Some of them were way too old (4 months) due to waiting on hired help to finish that loft, but they were trap trained for about three weeks to try to offset.
the start is put birds on the roof in a training cage for a couple of days get them hungry and toss them hungry to the trap only after they trap to whistle birds need to be hungry no food in them then let out hungry only once they no your whistle if your birds are not hungry before they are homed good by Charlie.
I think the biggest issue is they got started too late due to waiting on the hired help to finish this loft. Even though they had a lot of time in the settling pen and were actively trapping on command, I think they were too strong once the settling door was open. Add a bunch of Cooper's hawks and it's so long.
Sounds like HAWKS
Yeah, I think the Cooper's spooking them was a big part of it
You're letting these pigeons out too late if they get too old you're going to end up losing them you got to put them out when they Young when they squeaking that's what happens with the homers
I think age was probably a factor on this group of racers, though these sort of losses have also been common in my rollers for about the last three years. It was not an issue during the 15 or so years prior. Same location. Same settling methods. I think the age issue just aggravated an already existing issue.
2 to 4 weeks in the settling pen. Under the sun, better even if you build it on top of loft roof
Not 10 to 20 hours, it’s 10 to 20 DAYS !!!!!!!!!!
Lock 5 flights from both side for 1 week let them out plenty of time then you’ll never lose any
I used to just pull the flights except 9 and 10 and by time they grew back they were locked in and it avoided the temptation to get them out too early. The problem now vs. then is the number of Cooper's always looking to take young ones off the rooftop or even off the ground. I'm probably going to have to incorporate some sort of roof size settling pen along with restricting the ability to fly too soon just to dodge both bullets.
@@kerbyjackson88 i had same problem with hawks and i changed my flight time and i caged my birds for 1 or 2 weeks now i have no problem letting my birds outside to fly, so this may help you as well, also maybe hawks has a nest nearby, put some old CD’s this also reflects them to coming to your house.
@@Samim_01 I pretty much get clobbered regardless of fly time. Earlier in the year, I had switched to flying at sunset and got by for months without an attack. Then one evening a single Cooper's hawk appeared and ever since, attacks have been an issue again. I think they spend much of their time waiting nearby. There is a flock of mutts that someone free flys about 1/4 mile away and I tend to think that keeps them in the immediate vicinity during all hours of the day. I've got a couple dozen of the silver spiral bird scarers hanging around the property, but they don't seem to have any real effect.