Very informative video. I referenced this before pulling the seat to improve access for a brake switch replacement. I have a 2004 XKR and a few things were different on the later model seat. 1. The trim piece simply slid forward and had no sticky patch. 2. There were two yellow switches to unplug and the harness was held in place with a small fitting that is inserted into a hole on the seat bottom.
Tim, thanks for feedback and sharing the additional information for 2004 year cars. Great to hear the difference between model years. Much appreciated, regards Damian
thanks greatly for this, i need to remove my carpet and scrape out a little rust which has formed from a door seal leak i can’t locate, little drips of water come under the door and over the plastic under the door when it’s raining
Sorry not had that issue or heard on anyone fixing it. Can’t help much in this case. You might find a home or two in the floor. Please keep us informed on how you get on, regards Damian.
Hi Damian ,good stuff, now it's off how easy 😀 is it to get at the lumber support do you know? mine inflates and deflates at the same rate presume I have a burst ballon. Regards Richard
Richard, sorry got no idea. Working on the basis if it isn’t broke don’t touch it. Mine is working so haven’t investigated that one. Sorry can’t be more helpful, regards Damian
Matt, that’s the idea, a-pillars on the bench but keep getting distracted, exhaust and sill covers, doh 🙄. Lots more content in the pipeline. Got to finish this month, what to be driving in April, testing the straight pipes 😉👍, regards Damian
Looking forward to the headliner installation video. My car came with a new lining but I haven't found a video to give me the confidence to fit it yet!
Keith, working through it at the moment. Learning quite a bit and trying to take our time ensuring we capture everything important. Should be all done this month, fingers crossed, regards Damian
I took my drivers seat out last year to change the very had to find seat buckle. When I put it back in the heated seat had stopped working. Any idea what Wally thing I could have done to cause that? Or am I just unlucky :)
Rob, You can see the wiring diagram in Fig12.1 in the Electrical guide. drive.google.com/file/d/1E14b0TXZjdoGq3TR42c2I71Kg7TETMl6/view . Chances are it's just a problem with the wiring or worst case the heaters blown. The heated seat is powered by a single wire from the Seat control module and then returns to an earth shared with the lumbar support pump. If the pumps still working then its not the earth lead disconnected. Should be able to remove the module and check for anything disconnected. The earth for the seat goes via the seat fixing bolts have you used painted or insulated bolts? Hope that helps, regards Damian.
@szymeklawik7636 0 seconds ago I have a airbag warning light and I had a look under the passenger seat. There was a loose 2 pin black connector and I couldn't figure out where it plugs into. There were two yellow connectors and a white one - all mated but this one connector just on its own. It has green and brown wires. Could it be related to the airbag light. No flashes, just constant. Any help much appreciated
@szymeklawik7636, Assuming your car is post 2001 model? The first thing would be to try to rest the airbag light with a code reader. Disconnecting the seat with the battery connected would trigger the warning light as the seat has airbags. In still no good. There are two 2-way black connectors in the seat for that model year. SEAT BACK TILT SWITCH (SD24) and SEAT BACK TILT SWITCH (SD25). SD24 has green and black with white stripe wires. SD25 has green and black with green stripe wires. You can see these in the wiring diagram Fig12.1 page 89 of 152. The wiring diagram can be found for free on our website modurol.co.uk (see link below). Hope that helps, please let us know, regards Damian Link to wiring diagram drive.google.com/file/d/14mQL-VMEQUYQxatDRAGNDIdaHZE2cKr7/view
@szymeklawik7636, If there's a fault, the airbag light should come on for six seconds, then go out for two seconds, then flash the appropriate number of flashes for the fault, go off again for two seconds, then repeat the whole sequence five times. Finally the light stays on until the ignition is turned off. Eg; Flash code 16 would be shown as lamp ON for one occurence of 0.5 seconds, then lamp OFF for one second, followed by six occurences of lamp flashing ON/OFF for 0.5 seconds each (1 - 6). here is the list of codes i.e. the number of flashes that are seen, may help point you in the right direction 13 - Crash data memory full 16 - Pass seat weight sensor CAN fault 17 - Pass spatial sensor CAN fault 18 - Pass airbag deactivate lamp circuit fault 19 - Airbag circuit status fault - driver 21 - Airbag circuit status fault - pass 22 - Side Airbag circuit fault - driver 23 - Side Airbag circuit fault - pass 33 - Seat Belt Pretension fault - driver 34 - Seat Belt Pretension fault - pass 42 - Impact sensor circuit fault - front 43 - Impact sensor circuit fault - driver side 44 - Impact sensor circuit fault - pass side 51 - Seat belt switch circuit fault - driver 52 - Seat belt switch circuit fault - pass 53 - Airbag audible warning circuit fault 54 - RCM configuration failure What code are you getting? It might be as simple as the seat belt switch wiring. Hope that helps, please let us know how you get on, regards Damian
I don't know about your side of the pond Damian, but over here in the states we call that wrench a 3/8" RATCHET, that ain't by any means a "torque wrench"! 😂 Yes, changing just the modules is a simple job without removing the seats. I swapped mine side for side without too much swearing in fairly short order - under an hour anyway. Those modules are a real POS for what they charge for them, not much in them, not particularly well made either.
Andork, I stand corrected you are right it’s just a ratchet. Talking rubbish with out thinking 😆😉. Thanks for the confirmation the module will come out without the seat being removed. Expense business these black boxes. Trying not to damage anything. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated, regards Damian.
This is one of the most detailed automotive guides I've seen to date. Thank you for taking the time to do it right!
@rooob76, thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback. Glad you appreciate our detailed approach. Much appreciated, regards Damian
Very informative video. I referenced this before pulling the seat to improve access for a brake switch replacement. I have a 2004 XKR and a few things were different on the later model seat.
1. The trim piece simply slid forward and had no sticky patch.
2. There were two yellow switches to unplug and the harness was held in place with a small fitting that is inserted into a hole on the seat bottom.
Tim, thanks for feedback and sharing the additional information for 2004 year cars. Great to hear the difference between model years. Much appreciated, regards Damian
Thanks for useful information, I can confirm you can easily remove the seat control module without removing the seat itself.
Andrew, thanks for the confirmation much appreciated. Glad you found the video useful, regards Damian
Thanks for this Damian. Yet another useful addition to the knowledge base for our cars and greatly appreciated.
Gerard, thanks very much for the support, regards Damian
thanks greatly for this, i need to remove my carpet and scrape out a little rust which has formed from a door seal leak i can’t locate, little drips of water come under the door and over the plastic under the door when it’s raining
Sorry not had that issue or heard on anyone fixing it. Can’t help much in this case. You might find a home or two in the floor. Please keep us informed on how you get on, regards Damian.
Great video, thanks!
Jason, Thank you, hope you found it useful, regards Damian
Seems that once you get the front up, you could pull some dental floss along the rail to break the sticky pad adhesion.
Shawn, very good idea, much appreciated, regards Damian
Hi Damian ,good stuff, now it's off how easy 😀 is it to get at the lumber support do you know? mine inflates and deflates at the same rate presume I have a burst ballon. Regards Richard
Richard, sorry got no idea. Working on the basis if it isn’t broke don’t touch it. Mine is working so haven’t investigated that one. Sorry can’t be more helpful, regards Damian
Very informative as per usual. What was the reason for your removal?
Matt, sorry forgot to mention. Doing the headliner, a-pillar and rear parcel shelf. All still in bits at the moment.😆😉👍, regards Damian
@O&DR Modurol more content then :-)
Matt, that’s the idea, a-pillars on the bench but keep getting distracted, exhaust and sill covers, doh 🙄. Lots more content in the pipeline. Got to finish this month, what to be driving in April, testing the straight pipes 😉👍, regards Damian
Looking forward to the headliner installation video. My car came with a new lining but I haven't found a video to give me the confidence to fit it yet!
Keith, working through it at the moment. Learning quite a bit and trying to take our time ensuring we capture everything important. Should be all done this month, fingers crossed, regards Damian
I took my drivers seat out last year to change the very had to find seat buckle. When I put it back in the heated seat had stopped working. Any idea what Wally thing I could have done to cause that? Or am I just unlucky :)
Rob, You can see the wiring diagram in Fig12.1 in the Electrical guide. drive.google.com/file/d/1E14b0TXZjdoGq3TR42c2I71Kg7TETMl6/view . Chances are it's just a problem with the wiring or worst case the heaters blown. The heated seat is powered by a single wire from the Seat control module and then returns to an earth shared with the lumbar support pump. If the pumps still working then its not the earth lead disconnected. Should be able to remove the module and check for anything disconnected. The earth for the seat goes via the seat fixing bolts have you used painted or insulated bolts? Hope that helps, regards Damian.
@szymeklawik7636
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I have a airbag warning light and I had a look under the passenger seat. There was a loose 2 pin black connector and I couldn't figure out where it plugs into. There were two yellow connectors and a white one - all mated but this one connector just on its own. It has green and brown wires. Could it be related to the airbag light. No flashes, just constant. Any help much appreciated
@szymeklawik7636, Assuming your car is post 2001 model? The first thing would be to try to rest the airbag light with a code reader. Disconnecting the seat with the battery connected would trigger the warning light as the seat has airbags. In still no good. There are two 2-way black connectors in the seat for that model year. SEAT BACK TILT SWITCH (SD24) and SEAT BACK TILT SWITCH (SD25). SD24 has green and black with white stripe wires. SD25 has green and black with green stripe wires. You can see these in the wiring diagram Fig12.1 page 89 of 152. The wiring diagram can be found for free on our website modurol.co.uk (see link below). Hope that helps, please let us know, regards Damian
Link to wiring diagram
drive.google.com/file/d/14mQL-VMEQUYQxatDRAGNDIdaHZE2cKr7/view
@szymeklawik7636, If there's a fault, the airbag light should come on for six seconds, then go out for two seconds, then flash the appropriate number of flashes for the fault, go off again for two seconds, then repeat the whole sequence five times. Finally the light stays on until the ignition is turned off.
Eg; Flash code 16 would be shown as lamp ON for one occurence of 0.5 seconds, then lamp OFF for one second, followed by six occurences of lamp flashing ON/OFF for 0.5 seconds each (1 - 6).
here is the list of codes i.e. the number of flashes that are seen, may help point you in the right direction
13 - Crash data memory full
16 - Pass seat weight sensor CAN fault
17 - Pass spatial sensor CAN fault
18 - Pass airbag deactivate lamp circuit fault
19 - Airbag circuit status fault - driver
21 - Airbag circuit status fault - pass
22 - Side Airbag circuit fault - driver
23 - Side Airbag circuit fault - pass
33 - Seat Belt Pretension fault - driver
34 - Seat Belt Pretension fault - pass
42 - Impact sensor circuit fault - front
43 - Impact sensor circuit fault - driver side
44 - Impact sensor circuit fault - pass side
51 - Seat belt switch circuit fault - driver
52 - Seat belt switch circuit fault - pass
53 - Airbag audible warning circuit fault
54 - RCM configuration failure
What code are you getting?
It might be as simple as the seat belt switch wiring.
Hope that helps, please let us know how you get on, regards Damian
I don't know about your side of the pond Damian, but over here in the states we call that wrench a 3/8" RATCHET, that ain't by any means a "torque wrench"! 😂 Yes, changing just the modules is a simple job without removing the seats. I swapped mine side for side without too much swearing in fairly short order - under an hour anyway. Those modules are a real POS for what they charge for them, not much in them, not particularly well made either.
Andork, I stand corrected you are right it’s just a ratchet. Talking rubbish with out thinking 😆😉. Thanks for the confirmation the module will come out without the seat being removed. Expense business these black boxes. Trying not to damage anything. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated, regards Damian.