This is something that boggles my mind. However it is true for almost any interconnected system. Think about a street for a second. I can pull out of my drive way into a local street. To that street I go on to a local main artery. From that I pull onto a high way that could take me anywhere in the US. After I exit the highway, I am back down to a major street, on to local street and into an other drive way.
I'm 95% certain the man with glasses at 5:02 is my grandfather Charles Sykes Jr. I know he worked on the phone system at the WTC because he talked about it a lot after 9/11. Sadly he passed in 2010 so I can't ask him.
@TheBigHase @TheBigHase So you're implying that because his channel has no content its an indicator of him lying? So if their channels content was as random and baseless as your own in respect to this context, would he still be a liar? Neat story OP. I hope its your gramps.. That'd be cool
Engineering in those days without computer aided software, was amazing. Respect to all the people who studied science for giving us the technology we have today and take for granted.
I was with AGCS when 9/11 went down - the maker of the GTD5 telephone switch in the basement of tower1. On that Tuesday, we all gathered in the conference room and watched the video unroll before our eyes! A few hours later, we had leadership calling us out and we began work, assembling switch components and related parts. The two emergency earthquake trailers were pulled in from CA and we stripped them and refitted them It took 2 days, working around the clock, but they rolled out and had a police escort! They left Phoenix AZ on Sunday afternoon and arrived in Brooklyn early on Tuesday! Those truckers hauled ass!! Brooklyn had it's phone system back! My contribution to 9/11 was negligible, my respects to those that passed saving others!
I was working for AT&T on 9/11 in Chicago. I had access to any network alarms that happened on the network . I made printout of the alarms from the network when 9/11 happened for historical reasons only.
I'd love to see it. Have you ever listened to Evan Doorbell's recordings? I love anything about the "old" telephone network (cordboard, mechanical switching, but even digital switching is cool)
One thing to try to grasp here is that this was before anything was truly wireless, so each line had its own wire traveling from the ground and into the towers. That’s truly mind blowing...
Nothing is truly wireless, a building of this size would still be fitted with hundreds of miles of telephone cable and networking now. The only thing wireless would be a WiFi point good for a small area of one floor and it still has both network and power going to it. Nothing really to grasp
@@adamt3800 . There’s arguably more wires now than before, because like you said, there’s networking lines now. I failed to realize that. I suppose what I meant by grasp was that regardless of the tower, it’s age, or location, it’s crazy how much wire goes into them
@@adamt3800 Well, now you'd have fibre going up which makes it considerably easier. Most likely you wouldn't have traditional telephone lines at all, the vast majority of phones would be VoIP.
@@HistoryInHighDefinition yes, there's fiber, which can carry a lot more traffic, but there's way more traffic they need to carry. so in the end there really isn't any space saving.
@@bobsmithinson2050 Negative, the network cables of today replace all the telecoms cables before them. Where previously you may have even had several phones on a single desk, every phone would need a dedicated line, and a line for every single desk. Today it's a maximum of 1 RJ45 per desk which carries all communications, phone and internet, plus WiFi throughout giving way to collaboration spaces which have no phones or network ports at all, you just show up with your laptop. Further, all you need going to each office now are one or two leased lines per office, whereas back then every single phone you had, had to have a dedicated line as far as the switching equipment, which also needed as many lines going out of the building as would ever be in use at one time (so say you had 20,000 phones in the building, assuming no more than 5,000 people would be on the phone at any one point that's as many trunks as you'd actually need leaving the building, but all 20,000 lines would actually have to run as far as the switching floors before they're consolidated, and each company would pay for their own dedicated trunks).
same. Some of those things are now part of 9/11 memorials in various places in the surrounding towns. I remember as a kid seeing the towers under construction. I remember seeing them fall from across the river that day.
So much equipment spread over so many floors. Wondering how many hours of wiring work went on there and how much maintainenace was needed. Also how often rewiring was needed, because people/companies moved around, etc. These days all of this is done with IP and mostly in software. Amazing.
I worked for AT&T for 14 years and the company has gone down hill and it is not the same anymore out here on the west coast, they are just like Comcast an entertainment company.the Tech's today are over worked and the training has suffered a lot.those people in the video was trained and took pride in there work.
I’ve been a data/telecom subbie or 23 of the last 26 years here in the UK, Dad worked for British Telecoms and GPO (when govt owned)for 30 years and my Grandad did 29 years with the GPO (General Post Office) telecommunications From my experience it’s the same here in the UK now, all has to be completed yesterday at half the cost..push push push. Long gone has the pride in workmanship, gone partly because of that rush to push push push, cheap untrained labour.
That's the name of the game today.... Push out all of the mundane jobs and labor to unskilled workers for the least amount of money possible, but demand that the work be done better and faster than if it were done by skilled workers. Literal slave drivers. Why do you think they love bringing people in from third world countries?
@@ronsmith4325 sadly so. I worked for T Mobile in the UK in 1999, the mobile exchange was expanding at a rate that could hardly be kept up with. We had Ericsson switch gear going in with thousands of miles of coax 2meg cabling. All the looms were made off site, no doubt where made by cheaper eastern Asian labour and Ericsson brought in dozens of engineers from the Philippines. Minimum outlay, maximum profiteering.
Fascinating. Love the WTC still and I send so much care and comfort to strong New Yorkers who lost someone, to those not resting peacefully in resting place, to those who worked on this building, the builders, the rescuers that day and Minoru Yamasaki for designing what has been my top fav since I was a kid. The music is beautiful and cheery in this. Fantastic to see a woman working on phone lines at 4:44. Thank you. Take care.
I worked there from 1970 to 1971 before I was drafted. I installed the first non-Port Authority phone system for a Japanese company, Ishikawa Jima Heavy Machinery. The WTC central offices were not working yet and we got temporary service from the Worth Street Central Office. It was a sight to see. Thousands of people working. To get to the subways and the PATH trains you had to walk through a long tunnel made mostly of plywood to get to Church Street because the new stations and walkways weren't built yet. From the towers you could see 195 Broadway AT&T's old headquarters, 140 West Street New York Telephone's old head quarters and 222 Broadway Western Electric's headquarters.
@@dylancruz1131 most of the systems installed in Tower 1 and 2 with number one ESS I work for AT&T 36 years Number for ESS was installed after number ones for long distance digital switching
Imagine living in New York at the time thinking "how much taller are they building??" My stomach drops just looking at those heights! For those of us who never got the chance to experience them in person the mind boggles at their sheer scale. Just look at the sea of people "swimming" up the escalators 😳 It was a different time and place when people worked together towards a common goal. Fast forward 50 years and the world just seems so divided...
As one who experienced them in person by working there, they were the best part of my life. No day passes that I don't miss them. Not the same without them.
There's a piece of one of the towers in my city and I live in Calgary Canada, it's at the war museum visible from memorial drive, it's weird seeing beams exactly like it being put into the tower
There was no task beyond the reach of the "phone company" back then. Quite a contrast to today. Too bad Otis Elevator did not do a similar film of the system they installed. It too was amazing as was the air conditioning by York.
Lots of buildings had that same equipment. When the towers came down that equipment you see in the video had already been upgraded and no longer there. The wires were still there and most converted to data by bonding 24 pairs thus creating a T1. Most the offices were using voip.
That’s crazy considering voip was relatively new technology on the consumer and commercial markets at the time. Each building had 100,000+ pots lines when constructed. Assuming by 2001 the number of lines increased by at least 3, for every line an additional added about every 10 years, you’re talking about approximately 600,000 phone lines converted to voip by 2001. NYC must have been WAY ahead of the times compared to everywhere else to accomplish that. We didn’t start rolling it out in large scale in Florida (with the exception of inter office communications) until almost a decade later.
@@TheSaltyExplorer voip came out it the 90s. Buildings like WTC were the first to adopt it on a large scale. I was converting lines in the woodman tower in omaha Nebraska to T1s at the time the planes hit. I was more pointing out that none of that equipment existed even before voip it would of been replaced by more advanced switches.
@Norm T - Yes health & safety comes with an annoying bureaucracy and can be exploited to hassle workers. Overall though, it does prevent deadly accidents. Look at accident reports. Look at stories from developing countries where no regulations exist. One hundred workers burned to death in an Indian textile factory. Texas oil rig workers burned to death because no emergency exit was required. That type of thing. These would happen a lot more if some greedy employers where allowed to do whatever is most profitable, without regard to safety.
@@steve1978ger it happened in the US and in a textiles factory the employer was annoyed with the employees leaving through the exit so the exits were chained. That fire changed New York City fire code.
I knew a telecom worker who missed his train that fateful morning. They were installing data cabling. he was the only member of his crew that survived. My other friend was a firefighter who was responding to the WTC. He died too. I watched them construct the Twin Towers, stood on top of one of the Towers in 1977 and used to meet my mother for lunch there. It is devastating that the towers were destroyed and so many innocent people lost their lives. If your ideology, religion or cause says that it is ok to murder civilians, it is probably the wrong ideology!
Almost. The 4A ESS toll switch in the second subbasement of 1WTC remained on the SS7 net until at least 2 p.m. that afternoon... when it's batteries ran out.
I did a lot of low voltage work.. I thought running wire in a house was difficult sometimes.. I can’t imagine taking on the task of setting up comms in the twin towers😨👨🏼🔧.. Think about it, you could pick up a phone & make a call but with hundreds of other people in the same building using comms & not have much interference.. That is true engineering.
I watched from a technical point. WTC would almost have it's own telephone exchange. Wondering if it had it's own area codes? Cabling the floors would be no big deal as there would be little difference to cabling a 10 storey building. Each floor would have an individual IDF, would be a lot of weight in copper cable. If there is a record of the riser network I would be interested to see it.
It's funny. I walked a building today in Atlanta, and saw a wall full of Western Electric terminals from the late 60's, I had never seen that style before. Then of course.... the internet serves me up this video. And who says phones aren't listening to what we are saying....
I worked on auditing the Chase Manhattan offices on London wall. They had an AT&T voice/data network. Was always nice to use a 10way punch down tool. Chase had a huge coms room for the building, the only problem was the weight of the cable jumpers were so heavy, just walking past the frames caused connectivity faults and rectifying the faults caused more connectivity faults it was a nightmare and Cat5 and successors stopped all the faults.
Mr. HAHN I’d unfortunately disagree. Myself and it appears you haven’t forgotten however as a society we certainly have. And it’s a damned shame to be honest. 😕
The music is from a Thomas Valentino production music distribution and was delivered on their Major Records label. A production company would purchase the library and then pay Valentino a fee per "needle drop" for the use. I recognized it immediately because I used that cut so often on shows I did in the mid 70s.
What does he mean when saying that the equipment remained operational on 9/11 but the trunk lines were severed? Does it mean that internal phone systems still worked (floor to floor) or does he mean that even though the towers came down the switches were undamanged?
Nik the equipment bring many floors below grown level, they did not collapse. This, the equipment remained intact. The cable had to go back to surface to connect to the phones. That cable got severed as it was closer to ground level
Watching all those workers construct those awesome buildings... imagine if you could go back in time, and tell them right in the middle of their work what would happen to those "twins." They would look at you in absolute disbelief.
5:20. Is that actually from inside the towers? New South Wales is a state in Australia (and the flag matches) yet I can find no records of the state government having any location in New York. The sign is also spelt in Australian English (centre) which suggests it may not be in the towers. Anyone know?
The spelling makes sense. Doesn't have to be American. Note the room number - 6269? Did NSW have offices on the 62nd floor anywhere else? I'd guess that the sign and image were indeed from one of the towers. The sign is consistent with several others appearing in this video clip. The Australian consulate in NYC in the 1980's was in Rockefeller Center, not nearby.
Jake Livni 6259 belonged to 5 World Trade Center. Some deeper investigation lead me to the text ‘Commerce Today’ which clearly listed New South Wales Center as a presence in 5 WTC. You learn something new every day.
Did they use wire connection guides to know where to make the wire wrap connections? At 4:22 looks like a lady is dressing off the wire bundles with that string they used to use.
Was @ my Army Reserve unit for one day computer based training. We thought it was part of the training scenario @ first then figured something was up when we were told to stay off the internet to save bandwidth. We were sent home after the second tower fell...
I love these type of documentaries, especially older ones on WTC. No mentioning of the tragedy, just people talking about the new revolutionary skyscrapers that were modern wonders of the world (although they were a bit ugly)
I remember watching movies and shows set in NYC during the late 60's and early 70's, where we'd look to see how much of the buildings were completed. You could almost date the show/movie by it.
They really never did , the largest update was on 9/11 the outdated buildings were demolished then the whole are was modernized to updated looks and wireless technology.
@@smiley1960 by our own military and government - exactly, people who were in Manhattan on 9/11 and witnessed the second tower being hit said that the second aircraft didn't look anything like a commercial passenger plane they said it was dark in color and unmarked.
So many miss the point here, it's all about the technical complexity of installing a working telecom system. It could have been any building in any city so give it some merit.
When i saw this video, i can hardly believe that these towers are vanquished 15 years ago. Now i also realize what kind of impact it dit litterly had on the world,hence the term, world trade centre!!!
One pair of wires for each phone line; thats how it was back then! Thats a lotta copper! I collect business phones from that time (1A2 phones). Thats when telephones and systems were rock solid! The phone systems in WTC were probably amazing!
There's a big difference in the towers and Notre-Dame , over 3000 people died at the WTC and even more in Washington and here in Pennsylvania where i live , it would be incredibly disrespectful to rebuild two new towers after 3000 of our fellow Americans tragically lost their lives at the place.
The good old days where you could perform construction work without being harassed by some jobsworth spouting of about some perceived safety infraction or compliance BS.
The Twin Towers were so beautiful and way ahead of its time! They will remain the best looking skyscrapers forever.
"wire by wire, a connection at a time..." Amazing, truly amazing.
This is something that boggles my mind. However it is true for almost any interconnected system. Think about a street for a second. I can pull out of my drive way into a local street. To that street I go on to a local main artery. From that I pull onto a high way that could take me anywhere in the US. After I exit the highway, I am back down to a major street, on to local street and into an other drive way.
What aa waste of time lol. They fell down lol
@@simon_1987 man that’s not funny at all
@@TheBuckTussa but it's true they did fall down
@@simon_1987 Stop it bro. The twin towers were the best so why don't you just be quiet??
I'm 95% certain the man with glasses at 5:02 is my grandfather Charles Sykes Jr. I know he worked on the phone system at the WTC because he talked about it a lot after 9/11. Sadly he passed in 2010 so I can't ask him.
@TheBigHase @TheBigHase So you're implying that because his channel has no content its an indicator of him lying? So if their channels content was as random and baseless as your own in respect to this context, would he still be a liar? Neat story OP. I hope its your gramps.. That'd be cool
@TheBigHase You're a mongoloid. Go back to watching nascar and uploading creepy videos
@TheBigHase Pathetic.
@TheBigHase You are real loser. Get a life and stop playing video games. Big world out there.
You have any stories you could tell? I would love to hear anything about it.
Engineering in those days without computer aided software, was amazing. Respect to all the people who studied science for giving us the technology we have today and take for granted.
I was with AGCS when 9/11 went down - the maker of the GTD5 telephone switch in the basement of tower1. On that Tuesday, we all gathered in the conference room and watched the video unroll before our eyes!
A few hours later, we had leadership calling us out and we began work, assembling switch components and related parts. The two emergency earthquake trailers were pulled in from CA and we stripped them and refitted them It took 2 days, working around the clock, but they rolled out and had a police escort! They left Phoenix AZ on Sunday afternoon and arrived in Brooklyn early on Tuesday! Those truckers hauled ass!! Brooklyn had it's phone system back!
My contribution to 9/11 was negligible, my respects to those that passed saving others!
I'm surprised they didn't try to get them on a C-5 or C-17 for the trip. Something that important...
@jason9022 a guy shares a story and you come in an act the asshole. Amazing.
HI Dave. Don't devalue your part in support of communications.
@Lewis Samuel it sure sounds like a trusting relationship
@@stevegallant3395 It sounds like more spam nonsense! The reply is always identical too.
I was working for AT&T on 9/11 in Chicago. I had access to any network alarms that happened on the network . I made printout of the alarms from the network when 9/11 happened for historical reasons only.
I'd love to see it. Have you ever listened to Evan Doorbell's recordings? I love anything about the "old" telephone network (cordboard, mechanical switching, but even digital switching is cool)
I too would love to see this if you have it still
Please share it!
share it
Much wow
The construction took a few years but just hours for been destroyed. So sad. RIP those who lost their lives or love ones.
We will never forget.
One thing to try to grasp here is that this was before anything was truly wireless, so each line had its own wire traveling from the ground and into the towers. That’s truly mind blowing...
Nothing is truly wireless, a building of this size would still be fitted with hundreds of miles of telephone cable and networking now. The only thing wireless would be a WiFi point good for a small area of one floor and it still has both network and power going to it. Nothing really to grasp
@@adamt3800 . There’s arguably more wires now than before, because like you said, there’s networking lines now. I failed to realize that. I suppose what I meant by grasp was that regardless of the tower, it’s age, or location, it’s crazy how much wire goes into them
@@adamt3800 Well, now you'd have fibre going up which makes it considerably easier. Most likely you wouldn't have traditional telephone lines at all, the vast majority of phones would be VoIP.
@@HistoryInHighDefinition yes, there's fiber, which can carry a lot more traffic, but there's way more traffic they need to carry. so in the end there really isn't any space saving.
@@bobsmithinson2050 Negative, the network cables of today replace all the telecoms cables before them. Where previously you may have even had several phones on a single desk, every phone would need a dedicated line, and a line for every single desk. Today it's a maximum of 1 RJ45 per desk which carries all communications, phone and internet, plus WiFi throughout giving way to collaboration spaces which have no phones or network ports at all, you just show up with your laptop.
Further, all you need going to each office now are one or two leased lines per office, whereas back then every single phone you had, had to have a dedicated line as far as the switching equipment, which also needed as many lines going out of the building as would ever be in use at one time (so say you had 20,000 phones in the building, assuming no more than 5,000 people would be on the phone at any one point that's as many trunks as you'd actually need leaving the building, but all 20,000 lines would actually have to run as far as the switching floors before they're consolidated, and each company would pay for their own dedicated trunks).
Jesus.... 2:43... Those same pieces are now part of the famous photos of rubble from the aftermath. That gave me the chills.
I thought the same thing.
gave me the willies😁
same. Some of those things are now part of 9/11 memorials in various places in the surrounding towns. I remember as a kid seeing the towers under construction. I remember seeing them fall from across the river that day.
Yeah, it's fucked to think that we can recognize pieces of this building being put together because we saw it blown apart...
Yeah I saw those and just thought it was very creepy and thinking of those collapsed all over NY
So much equipment spread over so many floors. Wondering how many hours of wiring work went on there and how much maintainenace was needed. Also how often rewiring was needed, because people/companies moved around, etc.
These days all of this is done with IP and mostly in software. Amazing.
I worked for AT&T for 14 years and the company has gone down hill and it is not the same anymore out here on the west coast, they are just like Comcast an entertainment company.the Tech's today are over worked and the training has suffered a lot.those people in the video was trained and took pride in there work.
yep...outsources everything to Indians...and not woo woo woo Indians !
I’ve been a data/telecom subbie or 23 of the last 26 years here in the UK, Dad worked for British Telecoms and GPO (when govt owned)for 30 years and my Grandad did 29 years with the GPO (General Post Office) telecommunications
From my experience it’s the same here in the UK now, all has to be completed yesterday at half the cost..push push push. Long gone has the pride in workmanship, gone partly because of that rush to push push push, cheap untrained labour.
@@redroutemaster Profit over people/pride! That's the mentality now a days
That's the name of the game today....
Push out all of the mundane jobs and labor to unskilled workers for the least amount of money possible, but demand that the work be done better and faster than if it were done by skilled workers. Literal slave drivers. Why do you think they love bringing people in from third world countries?
@@ronsmith4325 sadly so.
I worked for T Mobile in the UK in 1999, the mobile exchange was expanding at a rate that could hardly be kept up with.
We had Ericsson switch gear going in with thousands of miles of coax 2meg cabling.
All the looms were made off site, no doubt where made by cheaper eastern Asian labour and Ericsson brought in dozens of engineers from the Philippines.
Minimum outlay, maximum profiteering.
Thank you!! We got to see the INSIDE of the Towers so many of us still love & miss.
My dad worked for Bell Labs in Cincinnati in the 60s and first half of the 70s. He worked on the telecommunications system in the Towers.
Nice, although of course it must have been devastating for him to see them come down.
Cincinnati is a good city.
@@lance8080 Seconded!
This is a great piece of film nostalgia.
Fascinating. Love the WTC still and I send so much care and comfort to strong New Yorkers who lost someone, to those not resting peacefully in resting place, to those who worked on this building, the builders, the rescuers that day and Minoru Yamasaki for designing what has been my top fav since I was a kid. The music is beautiful and cheery in this. Fantastic to see a woman working on phone lines at 4:44. Thank you. Take care.
I worked there from 1970 to 1971 before I was drafted. I installed the first non-Port Authority phone system for a Japanese company, Ishikawa Jima Heavy Machinery. The WTC central offices were not working yet and we got temporary service from the Worth Street Central Office.
It was a sight to see. Thousands of people working. To get to the subways and the PATH trains you had to walk through a long tunnel made mostly of plywood to get to Church Street because the new stations and walkways weren't built yet.
From the towers you could see 195 Broadway AT&T's old headquarters, 140 West Street New York Telephone's old head quarters and 222 Broadway Western Electric's headquarters.
Was there any electromechanical telephone equipment installed in the World Trade Center towers? Or just the #1AESS ?
I hate New York I only go there cause of trade shows , I don't understand the attraction of New York
@@colgatetoothpaste4865 Dont go there then... and stop telling UA-cam that because nobody cares!
@@dylancruz1131 most of the systems installed in Tower 1 and 2 with number one ESS I work for AT&T 36 years
Number for ESS was installed after number ones for long distance digital switching
Thankyou for your contribution. Im a former NYker and ill forever miss the twins!!!
Imagine living in New York at the time thinking "how much taller are they building??" My stomach drops just looking at those heights!
For those of us who never got the chance to experience them in person the mind boggles at their sheer scale. Just look at the sea of people "swimming" up the escalators 😳
It was a different time and place when people worked together towards a common goal. Fast forward 50 years and the world just seems so divided...
As one who experienced them in person by working there, they were the best part of my life. No day passes that I don't miss them. Not the same without them.
I love the 70's background music, reminds me of watching film strips as a kid in the 90s
There's a piece of one of the towers in my city and I live in Calgary Canada, it's at the war museum visible from memorial drive, it's weird seeing beams exactly like it being put into the tower
Would be very interesting to see a similar video for a modern telephony and networking install of this size!
wouldn't take up 4 floors, but would be cool
There was no task beyond the reach of the "phone company" back then. Quite a contrast to today. Too bad Otis Elevator did not do a similar film of the system they installed. It too was amazing as was the air conditioning by York.
Lots of buildings had that same equipment. When the towers came down that equipment you see in the video had already been upgraded and no longer there. The wires were still there and most converted to data by bonding 24 pairs thus creating a T1. Most the offices were using voip.
That’s crazy considering voip was relatively new technology on the consumer and commercial markets at the time. Each building had 100,000+ pots lines when constructed. Assuming by 2001 the number of lines increased by at least 3, for every line an additional added about every 10 years, you’re talking about approximately 600,000 phone lines converted to voip by 2001. NYC must have been WAY ahead of the times compared to everywhere else to accomplish that. We didn’t start rolling it out in large scale in Florida (with the exception of inter office communications) until almost a decade later.
@@TheSaltyExplorer voip came out it the 90s. Buildings like WTC were the first to adopt it on a large scale. I was converting lines in the woodman tower in omaha Nebraska to T1s at the time the planes hit. I was more pointing out that none of that equipment existed even before voip it would of been replaced by more advanced switches.
Would like to get the recording where Silverstein orders the team to pull it.
Too bad they cut out the original Bell System intros and cut off the closing.
Totally!
1973
"What's that?" "Health and safety?"
"Never heard of it."
Health and safety is for British properties......
@Norm T - Yes health & safety comes with an annoying bureaucracy and can be exploited to hassle workers. Overall though, it does prevent deadly accidents. Look at accident reports. Look at stories from developing countries where no regulations exist. One hundred workers burned to death in an Indian textile factory. Texas oil rig workers burned to death because no emergency exit was required. That type of thing. These would happen a lot more if some greedy employers where allowed to do whatever is most profitable, without regard to safety.
@@steve1978ger it happened in the US and in a textiles factory the employer was annoyed with the employees leaving through the exit so the exits were chained. That fire changed New York City fire code.
All the languages and voices .. so beautiful !
less drugs back then it shows
America don't seem to be as diverse as that anymore
5:26 someone is trying to speak Polish but he really can`t.
I knew a telecom worker who missed his train that fateful morning. They were installing data cabling. he was the only member of his crew that survived. My other friend was a firefighter who was responding to the WTC. He died too. I watched them construct the Twin Towers, stood on top of one of the Towers in 1977 and used to meet my mother for lunch there. It is devastating that the towers were destroyed and so many innocent people lost their lives. If your ideology, religion or cause says that it is ok to murder civilians, it is probably the wrong ideology!
Almost.
The 4A ESS toll switch in the second subbasement of 1WTC remained on the SS7 net until at least 2 p.m. that afternoon... when it's batteries ran out.
Not exactly sure what that means or how it impacted phone service, but I get the gist...
I did a lot of low voltage work.. I thought running wire in a house was difficult sometimes.. I can’t imagine taking on the task of setting up comms in the twin towers😨👨🏼🔧.. Think about it, you could pick up a phone & make a call but with hundreds of other people in the same building using comms & not have much interference.. That is true engineering.
5:18 Flying Tiger was subsequently called Federal Express, or FedEx.
wished they showed more of the actual telco equipment I got many tours of the telco gear
"before a sky scraper goes up. it must go down." 2:05 - my god if only they knew
ye they could say that again 😂
yeah this was my thought..
Yeah that kind of spooked me
And down it went, and up it goes… Again..
1973
Imagine all the surviving iron workers who saw the building they built go down in 10 seconds...
There was one that got interviewed and he was heartbroken by all of the hard work being ruined
I watched from a technical point. WTC would almost have it's own telephone exchange. Wondering if it had it's own area codes? Cabling the floors would be no big deal as there would be little difference to cabling a 10 storey building. Each floor would have an individual IDF, would be a lot of weight in copper cable. If there is a record of the riser network I would be interested to see it.
7,989,999 max phone numbers in an area code so, close?
4:47 the same telephone system that would carry many people's last phone calls of their lives.
Oh how sad :( And all it took to prevent it was not to bomb civilians in the East.
LMB222 go eat some pork
Crazy to think about... Just looking at this video after the fact is crazy....
That is very true. Thinking of their individual telephone circuit active upto the end, carrying some last words to a distant person.
@@LMB222 that's pretty rich. Can you be more specific?
Shame there's no video of the telephone network restoration after the 9/11 events...
I work for at$t and I still run into western electric terminal gear. Hard to believe uverse tv works through all that twisted copper
"Works"
It's funny. I walked a building today in Atlanta, and saw a wall full of Western Electric terminals from the late 60's, I had never seen that style before. Then of course.... the internet serves me up this video. And who says phones aren't listening to what we are saying....
I worked on auditing the Chase Manhattan offices on London wall. They had an AT&T voice/data network.
Was always nice to use a 10way punch down tool.
Chase had a huge coms room for the building, the only problem was the weight of the cable jumpers were so heavy, just walking past the frames caused connectivity faults and rectifying the faults caused more connectivity faults it was a nightmare and Cat5 and successors stopped all the faults.
"For building world commerce and perhaps, better understanding among people" Oh the irony...
Yeah I thought the same thing
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3:39 if you focus 911 is written where he is drilling! Eerie and chilling. Makes me wonder if everything is already written.
That's interesting good day. I actually think it's some thing xxx 116, but still.
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9/11 We haven't forgotten. Not even 2019.
Mr. HAHN I’d unfortunately disagree. Myself and it appears you haven’t forgotten however as a society we certainly have. And it’s a damned shame to be honest. 😕
It was CIA and MOSAD.
i all ready forgot
✡ Israel did 9/11 ✡
*GO AHEAD AND DELETE IT AGAIN, I'LL JUST POST IT AGAIN, MEANWHILE YOU'LL BE PAYING ME MORE HOMAGE ;)*
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What a great video, also, I want the music from this video, just pure amazing.
The music is from a Thomas Valentino production music distribution and was delivered on their Major Records label. A production company would purchase the library and then pay Valentino a fee per "needle drop" for the use. I recognized it immediately because I used that cut so often on shows I did in the mid 70s.
What does he mean when saying that the equipment remained operational on 9/11 but the trunk lines were severed? Does it mean that internal phone systems still worked (floor to floor) or does he mean that even though the towers came down the switches were undamanged?
Nik the equipment bring many floors below grown level, they did not collapse. This, the equipment remained intact. The cable had to go back to surface to connect to the phones. That cable got severed as it was closer to ground level
@@FlorenceSlugcat Curious how the trunks were exposed in a manner that allowed a falling building to sever them.
Fred Tarasevicius because the equipment was deeper than the cables
Watching all those workers construct those awesome buildings... imagine if you could go back in time, and tell them right in the middle of their work what would happen to those "twins." They would look at you in absolute disbelief.
After the '93 bombing, PANY&NJ moved into the vacant Ma Bell bldg. on the Westside highway.
How long did it take to get phone service in to all units on all floors and how many people to do whole job
5:20. Is that actually from inside the towers? New South Wales is a state in Australia (and the flag matches) yet I can find no records of the state government having any location in New York. The sign is also spelt in Australian English (centre) which suggests it may not be in the towers. Anyone know?
The spelling makes sense. Doesn't have to be American. Note the room number - 6269? Did NSW have offices on the 62nd floor anywhere else? I'd guess that the sign and image were indeed from one of the towers. The sign is consistent with several others appearing in this video clip. The Australian consulate in NYC in the 1980's was in Rockefeller Center, not nearby.
Jake Livni 6259 belonged to 5 World Trade Center. Some deeper investigation lead me to the text ‘Commerce Today’ which clearly listed New South Wales Center as a presence in 5 WTC. You learn something new every day.
it’s weird seeing the north tower without its antenna spire
Did they use wire connection guides to know where to make the wire wrap connections? At 4:22 looks like a lady is dressing off the wire bundles with that string they used to use.
Color code was used to locate each wire. Blue orange green brown slate.
@@TheHavrelandtExperiment I learned the color code drinking in a bar.
@Matt Ks Thanks.
5:38 - Dang, that "highway of escalators" gives me a better idea of how massive the place was than the exterior pics do!
The video of the uninstalling of the cables is dope
Was @ my Army Reserve unit for one day computer based training. We thought it was part of the training scenario @ first then figured something was up when we were told to stay off the internet to save bandwidth. We were sent home after the second tower fell...
I STILL SAY,...Life and everything else was so much better back then. God bless that time and those lost on 9/11. I sure miss those days. !!!
My great grand mother worked for the space shuttle program . Which put Bell system satilites in orbit , amung other things .
this, this is what we need to show our kids nowadays.
We’d probably just tell you funny Bush jokes.
yeah it’s better you’d not show us this unless you wanna be BOMBbarded with 9/11 jokes
Why do we need to show our kids 50+ year old footage of a tall building being equipped with a telephone system?
2:04 man says before a sky scraper goes up its has to go down SMH
This is the reason at&t put everything in cellphone.
I love these type of documentaries, especially older ones on WTC. No mentioning of the tragedy, just people talking about the new revolutionary skyscrapers that were modern wonders of the world (although they were a bit ugly)
I remember watching movies and shows set in NYC during the late 60's and early 70's, where we'd look to see how much of the buildings were completed. You could almost date the show/movie by it.
I wish there was some current commentary on your videos. These are so cool!
Hated that old "wire-wrap"
But it's still the most reliable way to make a connection
Better than soldering tags!
Sam Skellern agreed
Yeah but how they update all this stuff? Like from 1970s to 1990s?
They really never did , the largest update was on 9/11 the outdated buildings were demolished then the whole are was modernized to updated looks and wireless technology.
@@josephbennett3482 "largest update" - you mean mass murder?
@@smiley1960 by our own military and government - exactly, people who were in Manhattan on 9/11 and witnessed the second tower being hit said that the second aircraft didn't look anything like a commercial passenger plane they said it was dark in color and unmarked.
@@josephbennett3482 have any proof of that? there are lots of videos that show a commercial aircraft
Thank you for the info from the beginning to timestamp 1:31.
I remember wire wrapping DSX panels day after day.
Can't imagine how many miles of phone lines were used..
Enough to go to LA to Sacramento and back with no stops
No need to imagine.. A matter of paying 4:07 minutes of attention to the video.
@@LBZDreamer - Hi there ChillyFilly! I noticed your name rhymes with mine. Now THAT'S a coincidence! LOL!.... Have an awesome day!
I’d estimate around 600 miles, give or take.
So many miss the point here, it's all about the technical complexity of installing a working telecom system. It could have been any building in any city so give it some merit.
I agree with you 100%, I had 36 years, Western Electric then change the name to ATT. I was very proud to say who I work for my entire career there.
Not only we’re lives lost on 9/11 but history was lost
How ironic the narrator's first words before a skyscraper goes up it's got to go down I can't believe nobody caught that
He was referring to having to dig deep into bed rock to make an underground foundation to support the massive buildings.
Background music sounds like the Miss America Pageant of the same time.
i love the background music, don't know any similar sounding things tho :(
R.
I know right, the music, filming style, everything is so nostalgic yet sad because we’ll never go back to a time like that
Is The John Facenda voice??
Anyone see the 911 on the ground at 3:40?
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3:07 good view of the hat trusses
Fascinating... yet sad...
Is that Western Electric Crossbar?
When i saw this video, i can hardly believe that these towers are vanquished 15 years ago.
Now i also realize what kind of impact it dit litterly had on the world,hence the term, world trade centre!!!
dude that was 3 years before you were even born
Wait a minute those aren't phone lines those are blast cables???
:O
what's the name of the music?
They should of rebuild two towers there.
Yes they should have
What a wonderful country we had.
Must have been crazy working on those and then watching them come down
What was the WTC?
"bell guys are good guys"
Best video ever!!! Thanks for uploading!
AT&T was real upset over losing those data lines.
Thanks for the Upload!! XD They also had to demolish that highway as well.xd
The only communication that was working was the NYFD fire alarm boxes.
And some payphones.
Man you guys wired that faster than the guys who blew it up
i can’t even remotely imagine the fear going through those jumpers minds being that high
uploaded on september 11th. nice.
Good eye
4 floors of phone equipment! Today that much infrastructure can fit in a room one one floor!
03:39 a bad coincidence
It says 9 11 on the floor :(
It could be ll6?
116.
No such thing as coincidences. Is it a coincidence AT&T came out with the 911 call in 1968, the same year the World Trade was built?
@@kevikella221 it is 116 not 911... either way it might be an inside job
@@stevegallant3395 116 flipped is 911
One pair of wires for each phone line; thats how it was back then!
Thats a lotta copper!
I collect business phones from that time (1A2 phones). Thats when telephones and systems were rock solid! The phone systems in WTC were probably amazing!
I'd like to visit someday
I'll go with you handsome
2:04?
So many years to be built... so few minutes to be destroyed :(
These towers should have been rebuilt as Notre-Dame is being rebuilt now.
There's a big difference in the towers and Notre-Dame , over 3000 people died at the WTC and even more in Washington and here in Pennsylvania where i live , it would be incredibly disrespectful to rebuild two new towers after 3000 of our fellow Americans tragically lost their lives at the place.
But they did rebuild them they just didn't rebuild them the same way. Just hopefully with less deaths from the original construction.
The good old days where you could perform construction work without being harassed by some jobsworth spouting of about some perceived safety infraction or compliance BS.
60 workers died during the construction of the original WTC. Presumably, a hell of a lot fewer died building its replacement. That’s a bad thing?
4:53 Won't you take me to...... Funky Town.
😱the workers didn’t even have a safety harness🤯
That guy at the beginning of the video sounds like the pharmacist in Family Guy
"Before a sky scraper goes up, it's got to go down."
No, no, please no....
Thanks