When A V8 Detroit Diesel Runs Away So Do You!
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- In this video we try to fire up an old ford with an 8v92 detroit and as we struggled for it to get any fuel it then ran away. i believe the truck will still run and we will get it running! I hope you enjoy watching. Please subscribe!!
0:00 Intro
1:00 Seeing What We Have
1:22 First Crank In Many Years
5:27 Source Of Fuel
7:42 Lets Try Gravity
8:00 RUN
9:40 One Last Try
11:55 Outro
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Nothing like 2 people that don't know what there doing!
Thats what I was thinking.
I really do hate to be disrespectful but you to truly do not have a clue as to what you are doing....... That poor Detroit is literally begging for the two of you to get away from it !!
This is only a percentage. YOu dont even want to imagine how man runaway diesels are left unrecorded dayli
Yank the valve covers and make sure the rack moves freely. It only takes one stuck injector to hold them all wide open. Common problem, especially after sitting for a long time
Yes!
They should know better!
Never start one that's been down for a long time without making sure all the injectors are free. They can really get your heart pumping! 😂
I had the same with a 8V71 that sat for 10 years. The valve in the intake tube was stuck too but I pulled so hard that it came loose.
Unless you have a new style single screw rack
a comon issue with detroits is when it sits for many years the fuel rail seizes up and when moving the trottle pedal it gets stuck wide open till you pull the valve cover off to free it up
From what I've read, they were designed to go to full fuel position when they're shut down, which is why they often stay stuck in full fuel the next time they're started years later.
@@grabasandwich That sounds right, given that a regular mechanical pump diesel defaults to full fuel when running below set speed (i.e. stopped)
I hate to see a Detroit get destroyed because people are to dumb to check the rack those engines are starting to be hard to find
They’re still out there, at least 20 series 71 and 92’s are listed for sale every week at Old Forge Power Products in Scranton PA and hundreds are listed elsewhere…..if you want to save them I’d suggest buying a few because when they don’t sell they go for scrap. The good news is even though they were pretty negligent in firing this one up it is likely still fine and a perfectly rebuildable core engine. As long as you don’t throw a rod or spin a bearing these can be rebuilt over and over again. In this case they did at least have it cranking long enough to build oil pressure before it ran off and it’s likely the bottom end survived since it was as still rolling over freely afterward.
I have an old white with a 6-71 I want to try start it sitting for many year. What is "the rack" is that where I should spray tha ether into ?
@@RCRWJRHere's an example of a rack ua-cam.com/video/umLrfBYuiik/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Agreed, but they can be still run without some pistons
Had an old mechanic tell me that after 30 years he never saw a diesel run away. He did see a lot of mechanics run away from one when it took off.
Pull the valve covers, put a pair of vise-grips on the rack so you have control of the rack while starting.
A Detroit of this vintage will have the older style rack (2 screws), even one hung injector will hold all the others at full fuel.
Ditch the ether. Prime the fuel system by filling it thru the top of the secodary fuel filter (gravity) pr by using a small pump.
Yup, the same thing that you see @BusGreaseMonkey do when he's working on a Detroit that hasn't run in a while.
This is hard to watch. If you don't know what you are doing then DONT!!!! It's common knowledge that if a Detroit Two stroke sits for a while that the injectors may be stuck........like I said.........this is basic common knowledge.
Then quit watching if you don’t like it.. that’s common knowledge 😎
@baby-sharkgto4902 stop being ignorant. It's basic knowledge. So much videos online with detroits and persons explaining and these men still go and do this.... seems you yourself don't know either
@@baby-sharkgto4902 Ohh, good comeback...........in your case silence would golden. Better luck next time.
@@cliby25 Some people are not chrinically online to understand everything
When you go to start it after a while, take the valve covers off and make sure all 8 of the injectors racks move freely. These work just like the governor on the engine of a lawn mower. They are in full fuel when it's off and then move back to idle or full throttle when running. (Depending on the position of the throttle lever) The injectors can get stuck in full fuel. Leading to a runaway. Even if it's just one injector. If that engine ran like that for say about 5 minutes, it would seize up prematurely or worse, throw something out of the crankcase. So always make sure that the racks are free before starting if it's been sitting for a long time.
It's a 8V71 and the one or more injectors are stuck causing the fuel rack to not move. When a Detroit shuts down the Gov. goes to full fuel.
Pull the valve cover and free up the rack.
Nice old Ford
TGP
The passenger side said 92 but I'll take your word for it. And I will also do that! Thank you so much!
To tell the difference between a 71 is they have an 8VA prefix on their engine number. 92s are 8VF.
always have a flat piece of wood to put on intake or air filter!!!
It probably a 6v 92 they like to run away a bit and also run backwards to
@@chadbailey189 A ten pound carbon dioxide fire extinguisher sprayed into the intake on the blower will also shut down a runaway 2 stroke Detroit engine.
Man she's the shit am still laughing 😝😝😝😝😝
I agree!
The first thing you do on these is make sure the racks are free. Too many of these have bit the dust because of inexperienced people trying to get them running.
I'm trying to learn is the rack where I spray that ether into
Most louisville have 8v71N 318hp the old screw knobs on the rocker covers are a give away, 8v92 have circlip on the water pump, 8v71 have bolts on front cover of the water pump 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Good to know! I read the plate on the side of the engine and it says 8v92 lol I'm just learning the Detroit's myself. Thank you for that knowledge!
@@Only4Trucks what year is the truck???
@@FromLandVegemiteSamich I believe a 1984. That's what I saw, but I need to look around it more to be sure. That's what the stamp on the engine read if I read it correctly
@@Only4Trucksreally need to know how to check the rack so you don't grenade an engine that's been sitting. Ol2stroker or Bus Grease Monkey can show you how.
@@Only4Trucks more like a 74.
Holy grail cow that's quite something else,and the cussing Diane was doing with excitement 😊😊
Loved rebuilding those 92 v8 Detroits
There's no other SOS like saving ourselves
Take that can away from her!!! Ya better check that rack. You answered you own problem with the accelerator being stuck
Right!
No you need ether to start it. and what is the rack ?
yep,
thatull wake ya up faster then a cup of foldgers lol...
Checking the brake light switch on a 1977 Mack when they fire off the air starter is like a Jolt cola.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 omg bless your heart my girl!! Lol I needed a good laugh!!🤣🤣🤣 I thought it was gunna blow up! Lol🤣
Well it started......😂😂😂😂
Great video looking forward to the next one would’ve done the same thing ran away on me turn and run The old Ford came to life Grumpy for sure, but still fired up👍
Awesome video. When I was working for a Equipment Co. back in the early 80’s. We got a IH cab over with a 8V92. One day the driver was bringing it in the yard and we was just thought he was showing off in reality it was running away. He had a hard time getting it out of gear with the sloppy linkage and thrust against the gears. We tried putting hard cardboard over the air intake, but there was to many leaks in the piping. Lol!! She finally stopped. We think she was running on the oil buildup in the air box. We tore her down only thing we found was she stretched her conecting rods. Put her back together and she ran good till we sold her!! Good luck with that one!! Thank you for sharing!!
FLANGE
i think we need more check the rack comments not enough yet
YES!
I ran an 8V92 and its always been a great engine! Its always just a little funny when its someone elses engine, sad end for the olf girl!
what a laugh! seeing watching you two fuck off out of the way quickly, The bloke coving his ears and bailing had me ill with laughter!
That was a teaching moment
Never start an unknown old diesel without some CO2 gas fire extinguishers that you can empty in the intake!!! (No foam extinguishers and no powder extinguishers!)
When a Detroit runs away it's from a fuel leak on the top n the fuel drains into the crank case with the lube oil....when the level gets full to the bottom of the liner it pulls it up into the combustion chamber.....all the CO2 in the world not gonna do shit unless ALL the intake air is arrested.....🇺🇸
The engine simply overspeeds from an unintended fuel sorce...the mechanic is the one who runs away😅
Good Learning Video!
Berks Products. One of my Sonotube customers. The way it's knocking it's definitely running on the either. Where are these beauties? You jinxed it by saying "" Let's hope it doesn't run away ""! Bahah haha! Good video. You two make a great team. Safe travels and God bless
I dont know how far you are fron new York state but you should try to get " Old 2 Stroker " over to check out your
starting issues. He is one hell of a mechanic. regards from Ody Slim
You have to know what you are doing first grab the shit down lever make sure it’s free work the throttle make sure it’s free too make sure the emergency stop flap is there and operating as a lot say not a bad idea to pull the rocker covers and operate the rack tubes. The biggest thing fooling with these engines is to have a big CO2 fire extinguisher disconnect the air intake on the supercharger you can if you get a runaway stick that horn into that intake and discharge it till it dies ! The safest way to deal with one . I have ones from 2-53 all the way to 16-71s at my shop saving them for my older age .
Been around one in my life when it took off everyone but me and my grandfather ran and me and him scattered for a 2x4 to block the intake, iv never been so scared but knew what needed to be done because we needed the truck to haul hay so couldn't afford to let it blow.
She knows all 😅😅😅
Now that was a HOOT LOL
Your intros to the videos are the best on UA-cam. CONVOY all the way...Rubber Duck...quack quack...lol.
Hey ahhhh..the fuel rail is stuck..😂😂
Haha
Detroits don't prime themselves well. Most of the guys that worked on a lot of them back in the day had either a little electric fuel pump to hook into the line or else a bulb pump like on an outboard motor. Cook use to have one he carried in his truck. McHugh brothers had an electric one.
I hate when that happens!
I puckered, and I wasn't even there! lol!
You gotta do a walking tour of trucks & trailers on the property.
Like is that a concrete mixer, or a boat on that trailer?
What with the 4 door sitting next to this one?
Good job, two knuckleheads wrecking another “unkilllabke” Detroit. It WAS an 8v-92, Brilliant.
It already knocked badly
It is only hot, it didnt blow
Love the old 2 strokes 👍
I fired up a Big gen-set 12V92 and she ran away on me, you should have seen those old guys move 😆 after a big drag off a fire extinguisher I got her shut down but it’s something if you’ve never seen one do it.
Detroit’s are known for this.
Yamaha YZ490 also
That is why there are no more Detroit Cummins and Caterpillars are taking over Detroit is history Cummins sold twice as much as Detroit
@@michaelflores2318There is nothing 2 stroke detroit oil injection!
@@michaelflores2318This is not why. Fuel prices and EPA regulations killed 2 stroke Detroits.
The 60 Series 4 strokes kicked Cummins ass for the next 2 decades
Why are runaway deisels always so damn funny 😂
It is, until it’s your diesel.
😂😂😂😂 made my day
Well we know who the Boss is...😂
Screaming Detroit, That’s the shit
Love the vid. Who ever the lady is she makes the it with her comments hahahahahhaha
When you lower the hose and funnel the fuel is going to come up to the funnel. The engine did not pump the fuel back to your funnel.
What's up trucker Joe great video my friend, boy you guy's sure can wake up the dead with that old Detroit. What size for is it? I just bought me a fixer upper a 1985 single axle with the Ford engine in it, has a 5 speed with a 2speed rear end. Nice little dump truck for for a back up. Needs some cab repairs and doors, but over nice project, runs great. Stay safe out there my friend and keep the videos coming and always travel safely catch you on the next one.
Man she took off like a hen chased by a fox😅😅😅😅😅😅
Who is this gal, she’s awesome?!?!
The rack is stuck, Never crank a 2 stroke Detroit that's sat any time without checking that first, Unless you don't want or like the engine..lol
Looked like roy orbison standing there.
I think she's a runner!
Some who buil an 8v92 2 physco pulling truck sounds like the new Polaris 850 patriot turbo khaos sled. Mount a 4-53 2 stron in the big new Polaris buggy for the tge hell of it. The Rotax 850 Etec turbo R tge jimmy in new skidoos. At just above idle at 1200 rpm it sounds like a Detroit w 6 poke delco alternator on boat I work on. Arctic Cat new 858 at 1200 rpm would be awsome. Now scale that 2 stroke sled engine up to an 858 CID inline 6 2 stroke for tge hell of it.
You were so scared!)))😂
Keep on truckin!🤙
😂 for sure, caught well of guard as well. I wanted to go reach up for the fuel stop but I knew it was pretty tight and I didn't think it would do anything anyway so I had to make a run for it 😂
To turn off the engine, you need not be afraid and turn off the air) I think you know this@@Only4Trucks
I see that truck says berks on the door. is that berks county pa? if so, small world.
:D diesel runs away are scary
if one doesn't understand gravity...all is lost.
throoootttalllll
These 2 are not two Brite up young Der up stairs
About that first Ford, what the hell is on that trailer? Is it a generator or locomotive engine?
I'm runnin' free...
Yeah...
I'm runnin' free!
That’s a 318 well an 8v71 could be 265 to 318 it a 70s engine cause it has round corner valve covers. Should be a red T knob in the cab for emergency shut down
Para que no pase eso tienes que quitar el cover de valvulas y ahi controlas la varilla de aceleración
Take the vavle cover off and the rack to see if it is moving freely
CHECKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE FUEL RACKKKKKKKKKKKKK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Detroit's are one diesel you always check the rack it's just something you always do
You can clearly hear it running on either or fuel
4:04 it knocks badly
“keep it running” “throttle”
“what!? turn it off?”
Where is this,any parts for sale. I know a fleet that still uses these. Had a LTL 9000 only trucks but Mack could survive Chicago roads
several shop cloths to throw in the air intake
What's on the back of that?
Keep the content coming. Maybe some merch soon?
I will be doing by best to keep it coming! And I have a few stickers and shirt ideas, I'm trying to get them finalized and get some made up. I will definitely have merch soon! It's just a big learning process along the way and I want it to be easy and enjoyable for everyone looking to get some
@@Only4Trucks awesome, even though you are from the Philly area, wrong side of the state, I’ll keep watching.
@@ff912 I really appreciate that, and I agree, I can't say Philly is my favorite place. I learned a lot and appreciate it for what it is. But it's become a place I try to avoid lol where are you from? Maybe we can hit a show in your area!
@@Only4Trucks I live in Maine now, born in the Butler county area though. Lived in Lancaster county for a few years as well. I wanna look into doing a road trip to Makungee (sp??)
You managed to half destroy it.
They were lucky it didn't seize up or blow up lol. Definitely different lol.😅🤷🏾♂️
That was 😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
Gotta make sure the rack is free on a detroit
😊
That was painful to watch. The most common cause of a runaway 2 stroke Detroit is a stuck injector, as many commenters have already said. But also a bad turbocharger with a leaky seal can cause an engine to runaway on crankcase oil leaking out of the turbo. On these Detroit engines a bad end seal in the blower rotors can also leak enough engine oil to cause a runaway, but that is very rare.
Detroit's overspeed......the mechanic runs away!!!!
With all thsoe ford trucks u have there sitting. Whats the price
😌😌 if it was me then I would have run☠️☠️☠️☠️💀
I've never personally seen a Detroit diesel run away but I seen a chipped infamous 6.0 powerstroke diesel do it
2 stroke for the win, 4 joke stroke is junk!
Ford makes it - - GMC shakes it !!
Where's this at we have a few Berks trucks
That's why i love those engine's, sounds like it's chasing ya and gonna run you over. Lol
As much as I enjoy Detroit’s self destructing, I couldn’t watch this and listen to the mouth on this old girl. Living with her, it’s no wonder some guys don’t come home.
The Detroits are some pretty high performance 2 stroke engines. A the new Arctic Cat 858 would look nice painted Detroit green.
Were the hell do they find these people
You know I believe some of the early 8v92s looked like an 8v71 they didn't have a turbo charger they were more powerful than 8v71.
Did those early 92s have stamped steel valve covers?
@@johneckert1365 I was a truck and equipment mechanic for 50 years I run trucks also as an owner operator I was a dirt hauler. I run some 8v71s and I got pretty good working on them I went by the book. I was trucking in Tucson and a friend of mine brought a truck he just acquired out on the job he told the other driver's that it had an 8v71 he really had them going it did have a early natural asperated 8v92 and it looked like an 8v71 he left them in the dust and they couldn't figure out what was going on, looking back it was really funny he could be a real character.
@danhuttinger5040 Ha that's awesome
I was hitting the throttle and wasn't doing anything should have been a dead giveaway for anyone who knows anything about old school diesel engines.
That video stressed me out… don’t try to start that again till you pull BOTH valve covers and make sure the fuel rack is free, and no injectors are stuck… that is your problem. You will destroy that engine if you keep trying to run it with stuck injectors/rack. When you free everthing up it will start and run fine.
She’s very pleasant
With these old Detroits gotta have the air cleaner pipe off and a wood block ready to choke it out
But did you check oil/fuel 1st???😆😆😆👍
How come all that equipment was jus parked and forgotten??? I would love that old dump truck @ 9:25 in the corner for my farm. She'd be perfect
Just cover the intake next time. LOL
Why does your phone cut off the sides of the video?
Because I held the camera upright unfortunately
Detroits can run at ridiculously high RPMs, so you probably didn’t damage it.
I would yank the injectors and get them rebuilt.
I’ve seen runaways before, and they are scary!
Why was it parked loaded?
Btw great content my lil nephews watch.