EXPOSED! Diesel Tuning HORROR STORIES & How to avoid them - Blown turbos, & high EGTs - Expert tips!
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Shauno heads to Ultimate Diesel Tuning to expose some pretty serious issues with unsafe diesel carpark tunes!
Car park or flash tunes can be fast, cheap and will make a difference to the way your 4WD drives, but here's why you shouldn't take the risk!
More power often means HIGH EGTs, more fuel and black soot, bad air-to-fuel ratios and a whole host of of potential big issues.
When you're getting your 4WD tuned, make sure you've got a professional making sure your intercooler piping, turbo, injectors and overall engine health is up to the task.
If you're chasing BIG power from your diesel 4WD, you'll need to consider reducing intake air temperatures by fitting a bigger intercooler, lowering exhaust gas temperatures with high flow exhaust systems, upgrading your injectors for more power and a whole lot more!
Chat to the experts at ultimatedieseltuning.com.au/ and see what the options are for your rig! - Авто та транспорт
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Hey boys I lost my job in May during the pandemic, just scored myself a diesel mechanic apprenticeship to reskill into something I love, started 2 weeks ago. Thought you'd wanna hear it.
Keep up the content fellas you've been a godsend during the unemployed times.
Good onya mate. Please make the most of this opportunity.
Well done mate👍
Good on ya, and good luck! Btw love your name,🤣
1 year on,how’s the apprenticeship going?
@@RadRuckus975 Its going really well actually man thanks for asking. Haven't made too many mistakes and feel way more confident now than I did when I first started. Hoping to get into working on earthmoving equipment when I get qualified. Thanks for asking mate.
I just hit the screw on the fuel pump with the impact, goes mint now 👌👌
turn it in till she runs away then back it off a hair
@@HogLux Bloody oath mate, no fancy smancy shit needed
Let it soot to the moon
no smoke .. no poke !!
strip it out then back it off a turn. thats the torque spec for everything
Rob is always very professional with clear communication, and very well presented. I wish they were here in NZ.
Cheers mate
great tip. Been a tech for over 15yrs and always good to see people pointing out the smart choices.
Iv done plenty of diesel road tunes.
I log using data from software like Techstream both before and after remapping. I do a general health check pre tune as well.
I log Air fuel ratio with an Innovate sniffer.
I also hook up a temp boost guage. To confirm what the map sensor is reading is accurate.
Not all carpark tuners are equal.
My files are prepared by professional writers and can be changed as many times as I need.
My transmission files are also custom designed.
I use a smoke maker to check for manifold and plumbing leaks.
When I offer optional dyno hire for the extra dollars people opt for the road tune 9 times out of 10.
I have also had to retune vehicles that ultimately had been to big dyno tuners and were suffering from overfueling and reliability issues.
You guys really know how to make some good content keen to see you guys go out west
After destroying a std common rail engine( ranger, injector fail = hole in piston, 10 k for 2nd hand engine)Then a V8 crd 76 cruiser with excessive blow by. I have now gone Back to a tuned TD42, PRE common rail, same grunt, Heaps more reliable. And the pootrol is way more capable off road
Yeah nice f the new tech it’s all for emissions crap
Thank you for d advisory regardng n intercooler n hilux turbo..👍
I’d love to see the difference in fuel pressure, boost pressure and injection timing between those tunes.
Gday, I'm Andrew from Berrima diesel.
He’s a legend but his quotes are even more legendary😂
Interested. See above.
Defo not Andrew lol 🤣
Any plans to do the Canning Stock once the traditional owners re-open the track following COVID?
So I got a new intercooler and custome tune from ultimate diesel and it blows black.. not good all out of a sudden? 🤔
Oh and I forgot that the new intercooler piping popped of on 2 different connections because the clamps weren't tight...
Gday Shaunno🤙🏽 were all looking for the bigger shaft 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😂😂. But fairdinkem how bout a show on the old school mechanical pumps as I’m bout to seek a tuner for 12HT rebuild I have. Cheers top show.
Thanks for the tips
Oiye, from Canada. Love the content.
Yeow... love these videos... you boys are the bomb.
Nice seeing shauno on 9news on Sunday 😂😂
What did he do 😂
Done himself a mischief???
@@kalebparkinson92 He was talking about the prices of the cars and how they have lifted.
Great vid, thanks for posting.
Can you guys suggest a good tuner in Adelaide?
Cheers
High Performance Diesel are great
Diesel wise st Agnes did a good job on my brother's MN triton. Knew what he was doing, better power/torque everywhere especially low rpm lethargy.
at the end of this type of Dyno tune is the vehicle still within the Australian Standards? is the U9 setting on a throttle controller also within the Std's still?
Greetings legends! From Seattle WA! Was wondering, where you route your rear diff hoses to? Thanks! Keep up the great adventures!
as in breather lines,,, we generally run them up the chasis into either the engine bay,, or plumbed into the airbox/snorkel usualy to keep them dry when doing river crossings and water
I love this channel
Dealer says no matter who does it a custom tune will void warranty? I'm worried about warranty
about 2 mins in .. shauno , the owner of Sooty & dirty 30 , says there is too much soot ??
.. From modern vehicles .. you conveniently missed that part. A 60 series isnt a modern vehicle.
Like a woman, u leave out half the story and pick and choose what you wanna hear to fit your own agenda. Lol
great advice, many thanks. I have a new D Max coming next month. Should i wait and see how it goes or make a pre-emptive strike and get done from the get go?
wait till warranty expires. have look at "auto expert" on new car warranties if modified.
Does Ultimate Diesel Tuning have affiliated companies or recommended diesel tuning places in Sydney?
Any chance you have the dyno graphs of the boost pressure for both tunes on that colarado?
How about the ecu if you tunnung up turbo charge? And downpipe exhaust?
So, what changes do you make to the OEM maps? What actual changes do you make ?
I got a stock non turbo SD25 diesel engine it done over 400,000 km and in doing a full engine rebuild kit to put in and thinking to get the head ported out to get more power can I do that ?
Like my mums 2008 Nissan navara d40 a guy who had it before my mum was playing with the diesel stuff and mum put a new turbo in it and when it gets 2 2500rpm It just drops boost completely going up hills like it stalled but dumps out heaps of smoke
My brother is a 4wd guy , however I'm a jdm junkie last time I was there my car got tuned for 5 hours . Im pretty sure it's the same for every engine . Wow
Hi guys I've had a remap and dyno tune but since then I have put a delete muffler on would that effect the tune and should I put the vehicle back on the dyno
It should be ok mate
I payed for a dyno tune but i feel like i got a reflash, a dyno run and out the door. My 2.5 r51 pathfinder smokes heaps on high rpm. A good diesel tune should not smoke if done correct. Wish i had a tuner like you in my area.
98kw to 114kw, Max boost from 22psi to about 25psi. More fuel, Torque 400 to 500NM. Car feels heaps better but i dont like the extra soot.
Yes, that is not ideal. We have customers come to us from all over Aus. We have stores in Brisbane, Melbourne & on the Gold Coast!
What are your opinions on the RC Colorados for tuning are they good for tuning? (4jj1)
Yes they are great engines
In perth modified diesel tuning did a custom remap for me and have had absolutely 0 issues, would reccomend highly as well as united fuel injection also do some very reputable tuning work!!
Street quick proformance 👌🏻
How much did it cost you?
@@bigjimbo5993 $1200 but already had hd clutch 3 inch exhaust aftermarket intercooler etc so was all ready to go
@@Blueythebear9 they got a facebook page?
You guys should start custom tuning outboard marine engines!
Out of curiosity do outboard dynos even exist?
You have a diesel out board?
@@jarradblair1793 What does a dyno have to do with the fuel type?
People tune petrol engines too you know.
@@naushad911 forgive my ignorance but you literally commented on a 4x4 247 video titled how to avoid diesel tuning disasters. Where Shauno is talking to a 4x4 diesel tuning specialist.
It's a little like you have walked into KFC and suggested they put fish tacos on the menu
@@jarradblair1793 Well, it wasn't me. That was done by Mr. Chris Oh!
How much do they charge to do a tune i’m thinking about getting my d40 navara tuned
Hi i have a 2018 d'max, wanting to get a dynamic tune down the track so I was wondering if there is anything that 2018 d'max are prone to having issues having before I look at getting it tuned?
Just ensure that the intake is free of soot mate then she'll be right to be tuned!
Anywhere anyone would recommend in Newcastle area?
Well he had to do a video , as payment for the Dirty 30 tune.... Gotta love Kickbacks !
Is all about them getting kickbacks
I have a 2012 Prado 150 3.0 Diesel with 115000km that is using way more fuel than it used to, when new, I used to see 9l/100km, now I am lucky to see 13l/100km. It probably did not help that the vehicle basically went nowhere in 2020 (I think that it was the same tank of fuel through the entire year). I am thinking a full soot clean, possibly injector clean and tune might be worthwhile. What do you reckon?
Yes absolutely mate. One of our on-car chemical soot cleans will do it wonders, plus a custom dyno tune by us to suit your engine/car & what you use your vehicle for! Expect awesome gains in power & torque, plus an improvement in fuel economy.
How do you go about tuning an old school turbo diesel with no computers, inter coolers etc? Like a GU TD42
I spoke to these guys a couple of weeks ago. Very helpful and took the time to discuss my problem, even though they were never going to work on my car. I have an '04 D22 Navara and they don't work on cars that old. They did put me onto another business who could help. Also a busy business, it's a 4 week wait just for diagnosis.
Does the same apply for petrol engines
Is there uch of a difference when tuning mechanical pumps on a dyno
There is. Is mainly controlling the electrical flow to the pump as that’s one of the only means of controlling it. It’s a bit more complex
Should have your mate give discounts when vids like this are posted. Get more business his way!
Think they get enough business, I've been on their waiting list for weeks.
@@dylanslater83 wow in that case they need to expand an open more locations lol
@@devilselbow that my friend is how the rich get richer haha
Mate if you think that's isn't already happening your a fool
Whay are the graphs still up and down in the custom tune in the same spot as the car park tune
Bangin choons mate
Hey I’ve got a 2018 76 series an was thinking about getting a tune! I tow a van and have heard that it’s worth getting a heavy duty clutch with a tune on a 76. Is that true? and is it also worth getting a bigger exhaust also? Was under the impression the bigger exhaust wouldn’t do much power wise being a DPF model car? Cheers 👍🏼
Yes, abolutely you need a clutch upgrade with a 70 Series Cruiser. The factory clutches are too weak to handle the huge gains in torque that will be achieved with a custom dyno tune! Exhaust = yes on a pre-DPF model & not really beneficial on a DPF-back model.
@@UltimateDieselTuning awesome! Thanks heaps for the reply ! Helped me out a lot. Looks like I better start saving my dollars sounds like the way to go. 🍻 👍🏼
Do you need to do oil changes more frequently after this? It the the auto gear box at risk from having more power? Or will the clutch pad last less?
No you don't. And no, no risk to an auto trans. Some manuals will need a clutch upgrade prior to tuning - like the 70 Series Cruisers, Hiluxes & Colorados.
@@UltimateDieselTuning usually, how much torque would yo put out on an isuzu dmax? generally speaking, i know each car will vary depending on how well it has been taken care of
Where do I find an ultimate diesel tuner in Sydney? That you would recommend
1:53 old mate looks so nervous in front of a camera haha.
Is there any good places for tuning on sunny coast ?
I agree with what you're saying
BUT
If you develop one of those issues 100kms after you do the tune you're gonna be in the same situation.
Having a gauge to monitor EGTs is good on a stock engine but imo essential on a tuned one.
Tuning it with the issue, can esasperate the issue.
diesel engines dont run lean, they ether overfuel or under power (not the same as running lean) as diesel's are a compression ignition engine but hey what would i know
Not much clearly
@@nuggetzor yeah as fuel injection technician I don’t know anything 🙄
@@devilselbow yes they do but if you don’t feed a diesel enough fuel they can still run but can’t run them lean
lol come on now mate,,, that doesnt sell stuff telling the truth ;)
@@tristo8881 haha yeah cause doing a tune on common rail diesels , don’t account for correction values in ecu over time and if your having issues sometimes won’t show the injectors at fault cause map been changed
Sounds good mate, but I will keep my 8Lt 6 cyl normally aspirated diesel 4X4, there is no substitute for cubic inches. Much better & more reliable than a
high strung Hiroshima screamer rice burner.
There definitely is. Its called a turbocharger
@@staytuned9176 No Worries Mate But you completely missed the point, or you cant read the English language correctly, either way a bloody turbo
is just another rice burner wannabe sub for the lack of real cubes.
@@aussiedrifter bahahahahaha. OK then. Enjoy doing 80 km/h everywhere in your asthmatic diesel 😂😂
@@staytuned9176 That's Spot-On Mate, & yes you are correct we do cruse along between 80/90 km/h & have been for the last 7 years,
but you also have to take into account we weigh just under 14 tons & a range of approximately 1,370 km.
Due to the fact that most of our travels are extremely remote at times the less to go wrong the better, hence the reluctance for any bolt on bullshit
As they say Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) & were never in any dam hurry to get anywhere anyway.
Why not go back to a horse an cart natural breathing all the time and cuts the lawn. That combination could be good for you an your 14 tons but your a little off topic mate.
How about a couple of Ugga duggas on the cowboy tune?
Hey Rob, where do you recommend I get my 2020 Hilux SR5 tuned in Canberra? Cheers
I will be using the car for cruising and towing a 2.5t caravan, would you recommend upgrade exhaust and clutch? Thanks.
Will a custom tune on a dpf equipped 4x4 cause it to regen more often?
Hi mate, no it won't. It'll regen as normal.
i wish we had people like this where I live....
Where aboits are you mate?
@@UltimateDieselTuning ....wait for it.....Florida.
@@no_handle_required oh. Yeah that's no ideal for us lol
@@UltimateDieselTuning Nope. However, thanks for reaching out anyway, that's a sign you guys are legit. Other people should see this.
@@no_handle_required cheers mate!
Cheers mates
Anything for a 2016 Subaru Diesel?
Page up!!!
2.2 defenders blow intercooler tanks also boys 👍
I had one... Killed 2 injector pumps and a set of injectors. After spending a fair amount I put up for sale then the company called me and offered me peanuts for the car a day later.. Still have the car and its back to stock and working
Which company did the tune?
I have a question my kun26r Hilux is at 260ks is that to many Ks for a tune as I like abit more power towing a horse float
Hi Matty. No, we tune cars with far more k's on the clock than yours. Just needs to have a pre-tune inspection carried out (as do all cars) & then if all is right, if you have no soot in the engine, then it'll be fine to tune. We'll just be more conservative with the tune, due to the higher k's on your engine.
Smokey one on dyno looks like an older vehicle without a dpf, non smokey are all newer with dpf?
Correct
Are Both tunes on the same boost level ?
Yes
Any good Dyno Tuners in Perth?
On a 97 tf 2800turbo diesel Holden rodeo what is the max boost the turbo can handle
We don't deal with those engines sorry mate
If the tuner did his job completely, doesn’t matter where u are . It works perfect .
Is it possible to dyno tune old turbo diesel engines? With mechanical injection pumps?
It is, but we don't do that here at Ultimate Diesel Tuning
Wish we had these options in the states.
You do!
@@29VK05 not anymore lol epa started raiding shops
who would they recommend in sydney to do a good tune up on a prado
We have a few recommendations in Sydney, Rick. Please give us a call on 1800034373 & ask about this!
Can you do a dyno on a 80 series 1hdt???
yes Berrima diesel
Question for Rob. Mate what’s your view on throttle lag on take off after it’s had a dyno tune. Vehicle is a manual transmission MQ Triton, should there be any/much throttle lag at all? Cheers
It's greatly improved after a tune by us. We adjust the throttle sensitivity & also reduce the turbo lag by a lot.
Put an Sdrive from SAAS or Idrive on it Me and my mates have them huge difference. Best $200 you'll spend on your car.
@@franko3006 understand how they work though mate. A good custom dyno tune is completely different to a throttle controller.
@@UltimateDieselTuning I have a custom tune on mine aswell works great
@@franko3006 putting your foot down further & faster does almost the same thing as one mate! They are, however, useful for when you are offroad & are finding your accelerator pedal a bit too sensitive.
What about chips/modules that connect onto the fuel rail and the boost sensor? I have one that has 7 different settings and I haven't noticed any negatives with the car at all - it's regularly serviced too.....
It just tricks the rail pressure to think its low so the pump puts more pressure in making it work harder there for wearing out faster. I’d take it off or just run it on low setting
@@lachlanvandermeer1971 is that how all of them work? Unichip etc?
@@andymurray2643 Unichip are tuneable, they are fine IF they are custom tuned on top of their standard tune files. Steer clear of any "untunable" rail pressure & boost chips, as all they do is up the boost & the fuel pressure, which is not ideal. Custom dyno tuning is far more superior & wil get you a much better & safer result, if you choose your tuner wisely.
@@UltimateDieselTuning Cheers mate. Any recommendations for dyno tuners here in WA?
@@andymurray2643 Garage 101 in Perth!
do you have a shop in central qld, love the channell
No we don't sorry mate. But we have a workshop in Mt Isa that we can recommend for you. Please give us a call on 1800034373 & ask about it!
Ok will wait until we on the gold in Sep then get booking cheers
So what about car park tune on a brand new 4x4? They prolly won't have any existing issues so I reckon it might be safe?
Definitely not! A car park tune is NOT suited to your actual engine & your driving conditions.
Sounds like a pretty good way to create issues. Dyno tunes don’t void warranties but a ‘car park’ tune would likely void warranty and as mean as this sounds..so it should.
Cheers shauno, I have a 200 and tow an excavator everyday and have noticed a slight loss in power, does anyone know if there is an ultimate diesel here in Perth, reckon I might have a problem somewhere
Hey Aaron, we do not have an Ultimate Diesel Tuning workshop in Perth, but we recommend Garage 101
@@UltimateDieselTuning awesome, garage 101, thank you mate
Just curious what sort of warranty is offered on these tunes if your tuning a new or near new car? Or are you better to wait for the end of factory warranty period?
Hey Troy. A custom dyno tune won't void warranty mate. In the case of an engine issue, then the manufacturer must prove, with sufficient evidence, that the tune caused the issue. They cannot just void the warranty. Tuners should have their own warranty too, like we do. Please give us a call on 1800034373 for further information on this.
Someone I know had issues with their engine after a tune, he then got stuck in the blame game between the manufacturer and the tuner and never got his repair bill covered by either of them. Neither would put anything in writing either. He said he wouldn’t do it again.
@@djnmv we can see how that would happen. Generally speaking you need to go above the service advisors & service manager & get a case study done. That is when you'll find it'll fall in the customer's favour. If, of course, it wasn't the tuners fault. We have been through this, only a handful of times, & have always come out on top. We step in for the customer & get it done. For example, an injector failure is one of the most common issues woth common rail turbo diesel engines & that will happen with an untuned engine too. Every manufacturer has replaced thousands upon tens of thousands of engines due to failed injector/s, which is a component failure.
Modern cars are de-rated EVERYWHERE for hardware preservation, regardless of how good your tuner is they’re not gonna know the limit of your exhaust valve temperature or clutch pack 5 in the transmission without trial & error.
Also besides emissions modern cars are tuned to within an inch of their lives so any increase in torque or rpm is playing with fire.
Guys I do lots of Benz I want buy original dyno which mercedes Benz use any chance to buy it help would
He good
there are good flash tunes.
How much are we talking for one of those new turbos and a custom tunes
Prices vary mate. Best to please give us a call tomorrow so we can discuss your options & your rig & give you your pricing.
Is there any different between a diesel tune and a petrol (gas) tune that would be relevant?
there's about 278 their entire different animals
They are pretty much completely different Dylan
Head nodding shauno it his best 😂
Nah for real love the video fellas!
How is all this emission tampering still done so out in the open in Australia which seems to have a pretty huge enforcement regime and regulations for vehicles?
Turn your hearing aid up, you can adjust fuelling for lower EGTs, and soot less than a factory tune. Therefore less SHIT pumped into the atmosphere.
@@IISIDESWIPEZII I'm not talking about aftermarket tunes being better or worse than OEM. Clean out your hearing aid.
I mean literally how are shops allowed to do it without getting busted? There are more regs for modding vehicles in OZ than the US by far and openly announcing you are defeating the OEM programming and thus modding the emissions spec is illegal and seems easy to target. Even here you can't do it openly any more.
I'm just curious how in a place that has so many regs and penalties about lift height and tire height and GVM upgrades and processes for getting the vehicle inspected and signed off by an engineer etc how you get to change the fuel tables like it's the wild west still w/o getting the state all pissed off?
What are your thought on turning a n70 because they seem to crack pistons?
Maybe need bigger injectors
Mate i own a 08 n70 315k on it running perfect had a tune, as long as injectors are in good condition in spec you can get a read out at any diesel mechanic and egr is clean get a egt and boost gauge hooked up
No dramas. We have tuned thousands of N70 Hiluxes & 1KD Prados!
@@johncallus4184 who done your tune?
@@UltimateDieselTuning Looks like I need to do a Sydney to Melbourne UDT 👍👍
All well and good saying that a dyno tune is great, but not everyone can afford a dyno tune, so obviously a “car park” tune is a bit more cost effective for some .
A car park tune is playing with fire.
Hey Rob, Where do you recommend I get my NT Pajero tuned in Sydney?
MRT Performanxe in Ryde mate 👍
@@UltimateDieselTuning I think you meant MRT Performance in Rhodes, not Ryde. I will give them a call. Cheers.
@@tomthx yep, sorry, Rhodes!
Why don’t you tune a trailer hitch and colour in a graph with pencils
Doesn't rich diesel mix lower exhaust gas temps?
Nah mate only thing reducing egts is more cool air and less fuel
It certainly does in Gas engines. Rich equates to unburnt fuel which cools so it doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@crimson2822 flames burn faster and hotter in the presence of more oxygen. More air relative to fuel than usual, means more oxygen than usual. So the flame burns hotter and faster than it should and will raise the temperature of the combustion chamber.
@@MrPeterDWatson Yes that’s correct for petrol engines, however Diesel engines it works in the complete opposite way. Do a simple google search if you don’t believe me...
@@crimson2822 I stand corrected, however I was surprised just how "not" simple the Google search turned out to be. All good thanks.
Always thought lean = heat. Is it different for diesels?
Yep it's pretty much the opposite
Hiw can u drive thu water with a turbo
Because if i understand right it sucks air in two
That's why a snorkel is beneficial.
Do you guys service Darwin?
We recommend Outback Auto in Darwin
Is 9psi safe for a 75 series with no intercooler?
Yes
Nice
Are diesel engines that much different to petrols in the heat sense, I always thought there was an afr for both diesel engines and petrol where they produce the most heat. More fuel does not equal higher temperatures.
It does with diesels mate. It's the opposite to petrol vehicles. You lean out on a petrol, it gets hotter and makes more power. On a diesel, the more fuel you put in, the hotter it gets and makes more power.
@@IISIDESWIPEZII what you say makes zero sense. The most amount of heat will occur when you have the correct amount of fuel to air. If you have less fuel then it has to be cooler as less fuel is being burnt to generate heat. If you have too much fuel, the excess fuel absorbs heat, which reduces temperatures.
@@jasonforan3751 Im not sure you know what you're talking about fella.
@@IISIDESWIPEZII basic thermodynamics, you should read up on it
MY BOYS n80 Makes 200rwhp 148kw with bigger stronger intercooler ,decat and tune 3" stainless in and out with hiflow airbox next is turbo upgrade and retune has stock turbo known to fail at 21psi
Yes, the factory turbos on those cannot handle much more boost than factory.
Ohhh yea