BEDDING BOX REBUILD PART THREE
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- They broke it again! It's only been a couple of months since we finished rebuilding a damaged bedding box and the front end is already wrecked. We decided to restore the front a little differently this time with some horizontal bracing. Please leave a comment if you have a better idea to contribute. Thank you for watching!
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Looks like the 450 had a good 5 inches of float on the drives picking the box. No wonder they mangle those things lol
Exactly. That's best case scenario. Usually they have them 5 feet in the air while driving over rough terrain. Full of wet dirt also.
I don't think this will hold long either. I would do the same round tube as above just like they have that one. Cut round holes in the sides and put the pipe all the way through to the outside. At least 5 or 6 passes of weld around each end where it passes through then a couple thick gussets and it will never move. Use the thickest wall pipe you can get. I assure you butt welding that square tube to the sides will never hold those forces, it must go through the sides to have leverage like that. You cannot overbuild stuff like this always go heavier than what was there if it broke. I hope I'm wrong and your redo stands up, but if not thats your solution. Great video thanks again for the ride 😎✌️
Another couple months and They slightly bent it but nothing is broken yet. They wanted it back in action quickly and that heavy round tube wasn't accessible on short notice. I also considered going through with the cross tube but the other design of these we work on is done that way and they keep breaking the big round one completely off instead. And still destroying the other tube also. Being much more difficult to replace when it's through welded. Everytime I strengthen one area they break something else lol. Bottom line is they aren't designed to be carried full of wet dirt with the bucket leveraging right in the middle of that bar. As long as they do that adding more weight to them with bigger steel just seems to be adding to the problem. I will gladly keep fighting the battle though! Thank you for the advice and for watching! 👍
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I can definitely understand that. You can't fix stupid, at least not with a welder🤣. Hey if the checks keep clearing then let them have at it right! Jobs like that place are the best, like a giant ATM for you guys😁. Keep the videos coming and tell Willy I said what's up! ✌️
Maybe try using a higher tensile steel tube.
Also it seem like they put the bucket in the middle see jf you can weld ties from that big round tube at the top down to your new section.
If that makes sense.
Heavy gussets too 1 inch at the intersections of your new square tube and the existing structure.
Just some initial thoughts idw very unusual use case.
They're effectively using the whole bucket as a giant lever against that new section and the large diameter existing tube.
Actually i think id be looking at heavy structural steel beams you kinda want something in the ball oark strength wise if the existing tube.
I had a hard time finding anything harder on short notice. Especially in the big round tube. They have broke the big round ones also. Like you said unsual usage so it's tough to reengineer it to not break. If you check us out on Facebook there are some pictures of previous ones we have done for them before we were doing videos. They break every part on them! 😂
I wanted to put gussets in the corners or add braces to the top or sides but I was afraid with them grabbing in there with the bucket that it would just take too much abuse and be a problem. So I opted to keep it open like original and just go thicker on the tubes and double them up. As you can see twice as strong as original still wasn't enough. If I go any stronger there the big round tube at the top will get ripped off.
Gussets is about only way to keep it from bending to the outside like that.
Might try using 1/2" chain welded to the sides then come off each corner on the top two tubes about 18" with additional plate welded onto the tubes to secure the chain to.
But they'll probably just rib those off with the buckets, and you probably can't use doubled up plate in each corner for gussets either, cause that'll hold material behind it, and just give them another place to grab hold of the dam things.
Looks like your trying to build something kids that destroy steel balls with plastic bats.
So untill they learn to play nice with their toys.
Ya'll gonna have steady income repairing them every few months.
Might see if you can get the spec on the steel the original boxes were built from, and order the same grade materials next time.
Seems as the original held up for a long time, because it stayed together until they literally wore the bottoms off dragging it around.
Best ideas comes to mind, and at least you know the difference between what you used and what was there originally.
Then you can see what your supplier can suggest as they have all the data on everything they have available next time
Thanks for the comment! I couldn't agree more! Fighting a losing battle the way they handle them. I guess it adds a bit of Job security though. I did check with the manufacturer on this one and to my surprise they use standard A36 mild steel on all of it. We even went thicker than original. They have some newer operators that don't always drag them like they should. So now the bottom is doing great but the push bar area not so much!
@@waggonerwelding the man will get tired of paying you to fix something that unacceptable because someone isn't following normal practices, and we know how that'll end up sooner or later.
Looks like y'all need to add a high volume fan to at least move a little air when you're inside cooking like a roasted chicken in all that gently warmed steel.
My late uncle was a bulldozer operator he broke everything the boss called him iron butcher now I think these guys should be call the same
I agree! Thankfully they don't have any dozers! They do have an 850 and 870 excavator that tear stuff up pretty well though!
damn they really beat the shit out of those. hopefully this holds up better
Yea they aren't nice to them at all! Been keeping us pretty busy with them! Thanks for the comment BTW! I love your videos!! 👍
Build the horizontals Through the base plate both top and bottom.
I wanted to but didn't in fear that they would tear up something more serious next time.
Where are y'all located I love that view
This job is in San Tan Valley Arizona!
Are all the welds supposed to break
No but when these aren't used properly something will give eventually. The tubes bent enough to pull the welds. The welds didn't break first or the tubes wouldn't be bent.
Was this repair considered warranty work?
Nope. We do not warranty heavy wear/abuse items like this.
They aren't supposed to lift them when full of dirt. Only drag or push them. They know that but as you can tell from the video they still do it. So they get used far beyond what they're intended for.
If they keep lifting this box with the track hoe the way they are from what you videoed, it will keep breaking.
You can re-engineer the box not to break, but the next weakest part will break like the bucket or the boom on the track hoe.
Exactly what I keep telling them!