I would caution anyone looking at TrueNAS that if this video doesn't grok, you might want to consider a more user friendly storage OS. TrueNAS/ZFS is not the answer to every storage need and I have read a terrible amount of postings of catastrophic data loss as a result of simple user errors in configuration. Backups. Always have backups.
I think you have to consider the subject matter. If it was brain surgery for beginners, pretty sure they would mean doctors, not people off the street. So truenas core would hint that you have the understanding of what the topic is, experience with say linux, and so on. In otherwords, it's an advanced technology for advanced users who are beginning in it. :)
@@bradgrandorff1058 Clever reply, but there's other UA-cam videos about installing TrueNAS that are a LOT easier to understand for somebody new to TrueNAS. Everybody is new to TrueNAS at first, even advanced users.
DUDE! This video is so helpful. I'm moving from WD Cloud to TrueNAS Core thanks to this. Once I saw you mount NFS, I was like yup, WD has that and wham bam transfer at full speed rather then copying a pasting SMB shares though a server which would not be learning how to do it right. Jurassic Park 3D Blu Ray rip in progress! Looks great on Meta Quest 3, I WIFI 3D videos from SMB, no compression. hehe! Thanks again!
OMG a rare 3D enthusiast! I have a huge collection of 3D movies and I just got a Quest3. I'm sooo excited now. Also you might want to use Scale, they are deprecating Core. I still have my cherished LG EF9500 55" OLED 3D, but it's for sure old now!
Cool you too?! Besides entertainment I find 3D a way of capturing moments to look back on, I prefer stationary mounts. I also foresee a Star Trek like future where if there is enough information about a space from multiple angles, it may be re-created in the future for future generations. Also, on reddit today they posted Core will continue to be supported for years to come. After this video I went down the road of write cache which I realized quickly doesn't exist outside of ZFS RAM Cache, LOG drives don't count. :) Thanks again. @@DigitalSpaceport
Thanks for the straight forward instructions. I've been playing around with PCs and simple networking for a number of years now mostly using Windows. I've been given a Dell PowerEdge R210 II last month and through a chance buy, I got a Dell PowerEdge T410 for $50 on marketplace and found a reseller that supplied me with six 6TB Enterprise SAS drives. Within a month, I went from no servers to having three (R210 II, R620, T410) in a 18RU Server Rack. Reading and watching a lot of videos on Open Systems like this one and I'm hooked. To those who are worried about power draw, the place I live in have solar. I'm also single (divorced) and have a noise cancelling headphone🙂
my new server is a t410 also! it had the old E5550 xeons, dual cpus, first thing I did was replace them with X5675s. That about doubled the speed of the entire system, and I got three processors for under $100 ( I have one spare now). Now runs with 24 threads instead of 8. And system and memory clocks are 100% faster
Thank You for the Video. Your information we right one, I had never done on of these before. It took me a while to play your video over and over again and sometimes I had to count how many lines you went down because at least for me the video was fuzzy. It worked so I am happy THANK YOU!
15:00 - "Now, How fast ....are we goin go? .. We're gona move some packets.... Ohh yeahh, we're gona move some packets 😂😂👌 Thanks for your guide mate, you've helped lay the foundation for a new project
Nice. I have had TrueNAS Core running for about 2 years now. My main unit is on a Supermicro MB and SC386 chassis. my backup is on a ATOM based supermicro MB with a silverstone case. I was able to convert my only x86 based QNAP to my off-line archive TrueNAS system. The only useful thing for a QNAP NAS to do. Once a very good NAS, but with all of their security issues and their insane downtime when doing firmware updates. I have all RaidZ2 in a single vdev and redundancy is my main requirement. My boot pools are a mirrored on all 3 systems. I have a 27U server rack in the den of my condo. Two systems running Proxmox. One for main VM based stuff and a small micro PC providing services for Home Assistant. Just moved my cable modem and pfSense FW to the rack as well. It being a open rack has it challenges with keeping the wiring neat. Once in a while checking in on Scale, but for what I need Core is still better suited and I run my VM and containers on Proxmox. I switched to fiber links between my switches except for one of them.
I took my SAS out because they were only running at 3 GB/sec. I plugged my drives directly into the SATA ports ( 6 drives), and am getting 6 GB speeds. I added a 3rd party USB 3.0 adapter, and it has two more SATA ports. That is where I connect my SSD boot drive.
Simple question that I just have.. with truenas, would there be issues with a pool if the drives within the pool are moved to another sata port? Suchas if I moved one from an onboard sata port, to a pcie sata card, or a sas hba?
@@DigitalSpaceport Ayy.. this is good news. I just got burnt from windows storage spaces. I took out three drives in my storage pool (the whole pool and storage space), added some more drives on those same ports and made a new pool/space, when when I plugged in the three drives again, the storage space is gone 😢 Thankfully, data recover is happening.... but slowly. Never using storage spaces again
This is a very helpful video and well explained. Thank you. I should be getting an R730XD in the next few weeks and looking forward to going from there.
@@DigitalSpaceport Maybe it's just Scale is the "new hotness" and Core is "old and busted" in some people's eyes. Core isn't "old and busted" but you get that vibe from a lot of UA-cam videos.
At the time of this video production, future plans to deprecate TN Core had not been announced yet. Performance wise, Core outperforms Scale, which is why I chose this back then. If I had needed VM or Container support, I would have done the video with Scale.
I have two TN servers, and I need to migrate the old one to the new one. I was with you all the way until mounting the Share for NFS via the CLI (opened through the GUI console of the new server, mounting the share from the old server onto the new server.); when I did, I got the error: "PORT mapper failure: unable to send." Looking around on the internet, there doesn't seem to be anything dealing with that specifically, there are "unable to receive answers", and RPC config answers.
I am following your instruction but when I try to configure the smb share I am not getting the pop up asking to enable the share. why might this be? I also cannot access the share or the array through windows.
Strange thing happened to me with windows and mapping the network share... using the ip address didnt work but using the hostname of the NAS did... Anyone have any ideas on why that would be? (I am currently on a domain, windows 11, TrueNAS-13.0-U6.1) Other than that hiccup everything went smoothly, great video for tech savvy users who are beginners with NAS : )
Im not sure the exact mechanism under the hood for how that transfer occurs and am trying to 100% avoid any bclone activity or potential for data to get impacted with the latest bug. The data in question has a lot of value so I cant risk anything right now. It is a lot slower, but rsync doesnt use traditional cp commands under the hood so its at least 100% safe.
Thank you for the detailed setup video. I followed it hoping to turn an old Dell into a NAS but the IP showing was an internal IP 10.0.0.20. What did I do wrong???
1: show how you downloaded the iso file, from the source, and where you plugged in the USB. 2: what if you use a laptop connected to the server via 10gbps Ethernet cable? Then how to you install the iso onto the server? Setup: Laptop 💻 + supermicro server switch and wifi router
#DigitalSpaceport can anyone help. i have followed the instructions in this video and when i try to access my sever through window it tell me my credentials are wrong. im using the user name and password i created in truenas accounts. can anybody tell me what im doing wrong please. Thanks.
use admin account, and login to physical machine (ssh is also possible if not easy to connect a monitor) if you cannot ssh in you will have to gain physical access and on that menu option 4 allows you to change pw
@@DigitalSpaceport thanks for your reply. just to clarifiy do you mean log into tha actual turenas machine and change the pasword i made whe i installed turenas?
as someone who just want to set up my own cloud for me and my family to uplode and dowload photoes and videoes to shere and have private i dident understand anything in the intro. why come its so hard to get a simple video explaining how to do such thing?
Agreed. Some of us are just looking to set up a basic storage system and are not interested in digging under the hood. If it's for "beginners" then set up a basic system. Everything else is intermediate/advanced level. Jargon and acronyms confuse the issue rather than make it clear.
The use of "Beginners" in the title is misleading. I was expecting explanations and reasons behind some of his decisions so I can figure things out on my own if my setup is different. He put 3 drives into each VDev for "better performance". What makes it a better performance? What's the cache vdev and is it necessary always? On the other hand, he's covering topics that no other channel seems to be doing so that's good.
Just noting for anyone who might see this in the future, the bug has been confirmed on Freebsd as well as Linux, it's just pretty rare to actually invoke the steps that cause bug which is why it took so long to find.
@@DigitalSpaceport If you're going to make it for beginners, then before you start recording a session do two things: (1) Ask yourself what a beginner needs to know to get up and running - not necessarily the most optimized set up, but a basic accessible storage solution. (2) Create a script to accomplish that and stick to it - don't go off on tangents or rip through menus that are hard to see and follow. The "beginner's" video for a basic setup shouldn't have to last more than 10 minutes. You can always add intermediate and advanced level videos later. Throw in one or two which just explain the most appropriate options/variations for home setups.
I understand your criticism and while I do not agree with it in full, there are some parts I do. I would also say not everyone should be setting up a local Truenas instance to self host precious memories, a point I need to elaborate more in the followup work at the intro as well. The danger of catastrophic data loss is very high and unrecoverable from in some instances which is why several of the tangents happened. The jargon is important. That would be better to outline up front along with alternatives to truenas that are easier. I can say there is 0 chance you can present all of this in an even close to safe manner in 10 mins so dont expect that from me, it wont happen. Having a clearer pathway for the presentation however will.
it says for beginers and i can barely understand a word he's saying. now i know how my dad feels when i talk computers to him.
I would caution anyone looking at TrueNAS that if this video doesn't grok, you might want to consider a more user friendly storage OS. TrueNAS/ZFS is not the answer to every storage need and I have read a terrible amount of postings of catastrophic data loss as a result of simple user errors in configuration.
Backups. Always have backups.
I agree. This presentation is not for beginners. Way too many acronyms not explained, and he is talking way too fast for a beginner to keep up.
I think you have to consider the subject matter. If it was brain surgery for beginners, pretty sure they would mean doctors, not people off the street. So truenas core would hint that you have the understanding of what the topic is, experience with say linux, and so on. In otherwords, it's an advanced technology for advanced users who are beginning in it. :)
@@bradgrandorff1058 Clever reply, but there's other UA-cam videos about installing TrueNAS that are a LOT easier to understand for somebody new to TrueNAS. Everybody is new to TrueNAS at first, even advanced users.
Yup. This is not for dummies.
DUDE! This video is so helpful. I'm moving from WD Cloud to TrueNAS Core thanks to this. Once I saw you mount NFS, I was like yup, WD has that and wham bam transfer at full speed rather then copying a pasting SMB shares though a server which would not be learning how to do it right. Jurassic Park 3D Blu Ray rip in progress! Looks great on Meta Quest 3, I WIFI 3D videos from SMB, no compression. hehe! Thanks again!
OMG a rare 3D enthusiast! I have a huge collection of 3D movies and I just got a Quest3. I'm sooo excited now. Also you might want to use Scale, they are deprecating Core. I still have my cherished LG EF9500 55" OLED 3D, but it's for sure old now!
Cool you too?! Besides entertainment I find 3D a way of capturing moments to look back on, I prefer stationary mounts. I also foresee a Star Trek like future where if there is enough information about a space from multiple angles, it may be re-created in the future for future generations. Also, on reddit today they posted Core will continue to be supported for years to come. After this video I went down the road of write cache which I realized quickly doesn't exist outside of ZFS RAM Cache, LOG drives don't count. :) Thanks again. @@DigitalSpaceport
Also, have you seen Creature From the Black Lagoon riped from Blu Ray. The movie is surprisingly fun and looks incredible on Quest 3, 4XVR.
I think this is a very likely possibility also. I do work in creating environments in 3D (also what much of these heavy R930s does for work purposes.)
This is perfect, i have a project coming up for family and i need to repurpose a old pc with a bunch of drives and turn it into a trunas
Thanks for the straight forward instructions. I've been playing around with PCs and simple networking for a number of years now mostly using Windows. I've been given a Dell PowerEdge R210 II last month and through a chance buy, I got a Dell PowerEdge T410 for $50 on marketplace and found a reseller that supplied me with six 6TB Enterprise SAS drives.
Within a month, I went from no servers to having three (R210 II, R620, T410) in a 18RU Server Rack. Reading and watching a lot of videos on Open Systems like this one and I'm hooked.
To those who are worried about power draw, the place I live in have solar. I'm also single (divorced) and have a noise cancelling headphone🙂
The Dell PowerEdge R210 II is an AMAZING machine still to this day! I have one, but its not running right now. Im lucky my wife is a nerdette also!
my new server is a t410 also! it had the old E5550 xeons, dual cpus, first thing I did was replace them with X5675s. That about doubled the speed of the entire system, and I got three processors for under $100 ( I have one spare now). Now runs with 24 threads instead of 8. And system and memory clocks are 100% faster
@@VanMoon I'll keep that in mind if or when I'm ready to upgrade. It should suffice at the moment with 22TB usable space
Thank You for the Video. Your information we right one, I had never done on of these before. It took me a while to play your video over and over again and sometimes I had to count how many lines you went down because at least for me the video was fuzzy. It worked so I am happy THANK YOU!
15:00 - "Now, How fast ....are we goin go? .. We're gona move some packets.... Ohh yeahh, we're gona move some packets 😂😂👌 Thanks for your guide mate, you've helped lay the foundation for a new project
😁 Its that need for speed man. I love TrueNAS for that!
Incredibly clear and useful - thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
This was super helpful, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Nice. I have had TrueNAS Core running for about 2 years now. My main unit is on a Supermicro MB and SC386 chassis. my backup is on a ATOM based supermicro MB with a silverstone case. I was able to convert my only x86 based QNAP to my off-line archive TrueNAS system. The only useful thing for a QNAP NAS to do. Once a very good NAS, but with all of their security issues and their insane downtime when doing firmware updates. I have all RaidZ2 in a single vdev and redundancy is my main requirement. My boot pools are a mirrored on all 3 systems. I have a 27U server rack in the den of my condo. Two systems running Proxmox. One for main VM based stuff and a small micro PC providing services for Home Assistant. Just moved my cable modem and pfSense FW to the rack as well. It being a open rack has it challenges with keeping the wiring neat. Once in a while checking in on Scale, but for what I need Core is still better suited and I run my VM and containers on Proxmox. I switched to fiber links between my switches except for one of them.
‼Good job‼ We follow you closely 🔎from Barcelona (Spain) - Kind regards 😎
Important to note, you will need to flash your inbuilt Dell RAID card to IT mode, for drives to show up.
Damn did I not include a mention of that, your spot on right!
I took my SAS out because they were only running at 3 GB/sec. I plugged my drives directly into the SATA ports ( 6 drives), and am getting 6 GB speeds. I added a 3rd party USB 3.0 adapter, and it has two more SATA ports. That is where I connect my SSD boot drive.
Simple question that I just have.. with truenas, would there be issues with a pool if the drives within the pool are moved to another sata port? Suchas if I moved one from an onboard sata port, to a pcie sata card, or a sas hba?
No issue as those drives are identified by WWID not path. Do make sure your HBA is in IT mode only however.
@@DigitalSpaceport Ayy.. this is good news. I just got burnt from windows storage spaces. I took out three drives in my storage pool (the whole pool and storage space), added some more drives on those same ports and made a new pool/space, when when I plugged in the three drives again, the storage space is gone 😢
Thankfully, data recover is happening.... but slowly. Never using storage spaces again
This is a very helpful video and well explained. Thank you. I should be getting an R730XD in the next few weeks and looking forward to going from there.
Thanks Im shocked it's doing so bad honestly. I'm glad at least one person found it useful
@@DigitalSpaceport Maybe it's just Scale is the "new hotness" and Core is "old and busted" in some people's eyes. Core isn't "old and busted" but you get that vibe from a lot of UA-cam videos.
Thanks for the great details. Quick question. Why you decided to use TureNAS Core instead of TrueNAS Scale?
At the time of this video production, future plans to deprecate TN Core had not been announced yet. Performance wise, Core outperforms Scale, which is why I chose this back then. If I had needed VM or Container support, I would have done the video with Scale.
can't find where to modify an acl in truenas core as its either not available or has been moved.
help?
I have two TN servers, and I need to migrate the old one to the new one. I was with you all the way until mounting the Share for NFS via the CLI (opened through the GUI console of the new server, mounting the share from the old server onto the new server.); when I did, I got the error: "PORT mapper failure: unable to send." Looking around on the internet, there doesn't seem to be anything dealing with that specifically, there are "unable to receive answers", and RPC config answers.
I am following your instruction but when I try to configure the smb share I am not getting the pop up asking to enable the share. why might this be? I also cannot access the share or the array through windows.
Are you installing Core or Scale?
I'm running a HP microserver gen8 with Truenas scale on ssd and four hard drives as a raidz1.
Those HP micros look so good
I installed trueNAS but it says: the web interface could not be accessed? any solutions please?
Did you try http and https variants?
@@DigitalSpaceport yes
video was very good and useful. Learnt a lot. Can you make the screen or fonts bigger because it was hard to see.
Can I setup a TrueNAS system with only 2 HDD's for data?
Yes choose the mirror setup. You will lose half the space but have secure data in the event of a failure of a drive.
@@DigitalSpaceport OK, thanks. I was unsure if something similar to RAID1 was even a thing in TrueNAS.
Strange thing happened to me with windows and mapping the network share... using the ip address didnt work but using the hostname of the NAS did...
Anyone have any ideas on why that would be? (I am currently on a domain, windows 11, TrueNAS-13.0-U6.1)
Other than that hiccup everything went smoothly, great video for tech savvy users who are beginners with NAS : )
Interesting video! But why don´t you use zfs snapshot / zfs send for the data migration?
Im not sure the exact mechanism under the hood for how that transfer occurs and am trying to 100% avoid any bclone activity or potential for data to get impacted with the latest bug. The data in question has a lot of value so I cant risk anything right now. It is a lot slower, but rsync doesnt use traditional cp commands under the hood so its at least 100% safe.
@@DigitalSpaceport All right, Thank you. I have to read more about that bug to understand it better.
Thank you for the detailed setup video. I followed it hoping to turn an old Dell into a NAS but the IP showing was an internal IP 10.0.0.20. What did I do wrong???
Do you use the 10.0.0.X subnet?
Thank you very much! you are awesome
1: show how you downloaded the iso file, from the source, and where you plugged in the USB.
2: what if you use a laptop connected to the server via 10gbps Ethernet cable? Then how to you install the iso onto the server?
Setup:
Laptop 💻 + supermicro server switch and wifi router
my cache nvme Gigabyte would not appear in the memory dashboard
Im not sure what you mean here
thank you
The green thing at the start , what is that
That is a BMC interface provided on Dell servers called iDrac. It allows for remote display and media interoperation.
#DigitalSpaceport
can anyone help. i have followed the instructions in this video and when i try to access my sever through window it tell me my credentials are wrong. im using the user name and password i created in truenas accounts. can anybody tell me what im doing wrong please.
Thanks.
use admin account, and login to physical machine (ssh is also possible if not easy to connect a monitor) if you cannot ssh in you will have to gain physical access and on that menu option 4 allows you to change pw
@@DigitalSpaceport thanks for your reply. just to clarifiy do you mean log into tha actual turenas machine and change the pasword i made whe i installed turenas?
@@0102rider admin name is truenas_admin if that helps. I was stuck because I was trying (admin)
as someone who just want to set up my own cloud for me and my family to uplode and dowload photoes and videoes to shere and have private i dident understand anything in the intro. why come its so hard to get a simple video explaining how to do such thing?
Agreed. Some of us are just looking to set up a basic storage system and are not interested in digging under the hood. If it's for "beginners" then set up a basic system. Everything else is intermediate/advanced level. Jargon and acronyms confuse the issue rather than make it clear.
16:40 you never explained how to fix it
That wont look the same for various motherboards but the solution was to change the pcie slot bifurcation from x4 x4 x4 x4 to x16 in the bios.
Your screen is blurred, makes it hard to follow what you are doing.
I am very sorry the bitrate got reset to default in OBS here. I have a pre production process that catches this now ahead of time.
The use of "Beginners" in the title is misleading. I was expecting explanations and reasons behind some of his decisions so I can figure things out on my own if my setup is different. He put 3 drives into each VDev for "better performance". What makes it a better performance? What's the cache vdev and is it necessary always?
On the other hand, he's covering topics that no other channel seems to be doing so that's good.
Nothing could be seen on your TrueNas screen, because your display resolution is unfit for UA-cam videos.
Kindly make your display resolution
BSD > Linux........ wins again.
As a heavily biased FreeBSD user, I have to agree. ^ ^
Just noting for anyone who might see this in the future, the bug has been confirmed on Freebsd as well as Linux, it's just pretty rare to actually invoke the steps that cause bug which is why it took so long to find.
Too much tech-babble for a "guide for beginners". Keep it simple! 👎👎👎
Thanks for the viewpoint. Ill factor that in!
beginner my arse
While not exactly a comment I love I do hear you and I guess you are after more concepts and "the why" behind doing things a certain way?
@@DigitalSpaceport If you're going to make it for beginners, then before you start recording a session do two things: (1) Ask yourself what a beginner needs to know to get up and running - not necessarily the most optimized set up, but a basic accessible storage solution. (2) Create a script to accomplish that and stick to it - don't go off on tangents or rip through menus that are hard to see and follow. The "beginner's" video for a basic setup shouldn't have to last more than 10 minutes.
You can always add intermediate and advanced level videos later. Throw in one or two which just explain the most appropriate options/variations for home setups.
I understand your criticism and while I do not agree with it in full, there are some parts I do. I would also say not everyone should be setting up a local Truenas instance to self host precious memories, a point I need to elaborate more in the followup work at the intro as well. The danger of catastrophic data loss is very high and unrecoverable from in some instances which is why several of the tangents happened. The jargon is important. That would be better to outline up front along with alternatives to truenas that are easier. I can say there is 0 chance you can present all of this in an even close to safe manner in 10 mins so dont expect that from me, it wont happen. Having a clearer pathway for the presentation however will.