This is NOT a Finite SERIES!

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  • @Billlakeview
    @Billlakeview 9 місяців тому +8

    BEFORE you can scramble the terms, you need to know this series converges absolutely. As you allude to but don’t use explicitly, you can compare this series to the geometric series with general term 1/(2n)^2 and easily determine the absolute convergence, making the partial sums and term scramble a clever solution to getting the sum.

    • @mrityunjaykumar4202
      @mrityunjaykumar4202 9 місяців тому

      a GP series has a varying exponent say 'n'.The first term and common ratio are constant...your general term is wrong!

    • @Billlakeview
      @Billlakeview 9 місяців тому

      @@mrityunjaykumar4202 Thx. I meant to say the p-series, not the geometric series. No excuse.

    • @MathematicFanatic
      @MathematicFanatic 9 місяців тому

      Can anyone give an example where this is actually a problem and leads you astray? I always see people saying this but it always seems to work out perfectly anyway.

  • @SimonClarkstone
    @SimonClarkstone 9 місяців тому +9

    You have to be careful with that sum of the split fractions, as its positive terms on their own diverge to +∞, and its negative terms on their own diverge to -∞, and the series as a whole converges, so if you re-order the terms you can get different values. (The Riemann rearrangement theorem)
    I don't know about re-arranging the parentheses like you did though; I assume that is safe?

    • @mbmillermo
      @mbmillermo 9 місяців тому

      Is that the thing that gives us 1+2+3+...+∞ = -1/12?

    • @SimonClarkstone
      @SimonClarkstone 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mbmillermo No that's something else: a generalised form ("analytic continuation") of the Riemann zeta function.
      For the Riemann rearrangement theorem, you need the positive and negative terms to diverge when separated, but the series as a whole to converge.

    • @MathematicFanatic
      @MathematicFanatic 9 місяців тому

      Can anyone give an example where this is actually a problem and leads you astray? I always see people saying this but it always seems to work out perfectly anyway.

    • @attica7980
      @attica7980 9 місяців тому

      It is totally safe. Besides, the parentheses do not need to be removed in the infinite sum. They only need to be removed when evaluating the finite partial sums, and in a finite sum, parentheses can always be removed.

  • @hydropage2855
    @hydropage2855 9 місяців тому +3

    That was beautiful! So deceivingly simple!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! 😊

  • @msmbpc24
    @msmbpc24 9 місяців тому +2

    Learned a very cool technique. Thank you.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @SidneiMV
    @SidneiMV 8 місяців тому

    Simply amazing! Wow 😍

  • @richardleveson6467
    @richardleveson6467 9 місяців тому

    Very nice! Thank you.

  • @sauzerfenicedinanto
    @sauzerfenicedinanto 9 місяців тому

    It seems like a fairly standard exercise on telescopic series, once we learn the trick of the Mengoli series it always leads us back to the decomposition with partial fractions.

  • @Rohit-bk6bc
    @Rohit-bk6bc 9 місяців тому +1

    I've never used partial fractions like this 😮great vid!!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @Mehrdad_Basiry-fj4rl
    @Mehrdad_Basiry-fj4rl 9 місяців тому

    Beautiful question... learn alot...❤❤❤.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it

  • @MathematicFanatic
    @MathematicFanatic 9 місяців тому +1

    "You have to be careful when you rearrange the"
    No you don't 😎😎😎 I'm never careful and it works every time

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      That's awesome! 🤩

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 9 місяців тому

    Yes.

  • @natashok4346
    @natashok4346 9 місяців тому

    Very good!

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 9 місяців тому

    Cool!

  • @attica7980
    @attica7980 9 місяців тому

    Once you say what the sum is, the whole thing is a well-known telescoping sum. However, from what is given (1/3+1/15+1/35+...) it is impossible to guess what sum you have in mind.

  • @lasterbitz4490
    @lasterbitz4490 9 місяців тому +1

    I failed exactly this question yesterday on the exam smh

  • @jimschneider799
    @jimschneider799 9 місяців тому

    I came up with the approximation "more than pi^2/24", because your sum is 1/(4*1^2-1) + 1/(4*2^2-1) + 1/(4*3^2-1) + 1/(4*4^2-1) + ..., while the Riemann zeta function, evaluated at s=2, and divided by four, is 1/(4*1^2) + 1/(4*2^2) + 1/(4*3^2) + 1/(4*4^2) + .... Since the denominators in your series are slightly smaller, I surmised your sum would be slightly larger. I admit that I am surprised that it's nearly 22% larger, though.

  • @barakathaider6333
    @barakathaider6333 9 місяців тому

    👍

  • @liadneta5965
    @liadneta5965 9 місяців тому

    Nice! We call this trik telescopic 😂

  • @mbmillermo
    @mbmillermo 9 місяців тому

    I noticed that your terms are also ¼*(1/[n²-¼]) > ¼*(1/n²), so the answer has to be more than π²/24 which is approximately 0.411.

  • @apocwiar
    @apocwiar 9 місяців тому

    nice :)

  • @broytingaravsol
    @broytingaravsol 9 місяців тому +1

    easy

  • @robertveith6383
    @robertveith6383 9 місяців тому +1

    *@ SyberMath* -- It is an infinite series, but it has a *finite* sum of 1/2. You need to change the title.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому

      I changed the title to reflect that 🤩

  • @mathswan1607
    @mathswan1607 9 місяців тому

    1/2

  • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart
    @mathisnotforthefaintofheart 9 місяців тому

    The title is misleading. It is an infinite series but the sum is finite. You can do that indeed with partial fraction decomposition OR with powerseries...

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      I changed the title to reflect that 🤩

  • @Dave61Mi
    @Dave61Mi 9 місяців тому +3

    If the series converges to (1/2), then why do you title the video “This is not a finite sum?” The number of terms of the series may not be finite. The sequence of partial sums generated by successive terms of the series may go on forever. That sequence ultimately converges to one-half, though.
    Good video otherwise.

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 9 місяців тому

      Convergent does not mean finite.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому +1

      I changed the title to reflect that 🤩

  • @bobbyheffley4955
    @bobbyheffley4955 9 місяців тому

    An infinite series with a finite sum converges. Otherwise, it diverges.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  9 місяців тому

      I changed the title to reflect that 🤩

  • @yakupbuyankara5903
    @yakupbuyankara5903 7 місяців тому

    X=1/2

  • @toveirenestrand3547
    @toveirenestrand3547 9 місяців тому

    If you start with n = 0 (and go to n = N letting N go towards infinity) you will get that the sum is S = (1/2)[1/(2n + 1) - 1/(2n + 3)] = (1/2)[1 - 1/3 + 1/3 - 1/5 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ... - 1/(2N + 1) + 1/(2N + 1) - 1/(2N + 3)] = lim(1/2)*[1 - 1/(2N + 3)] = 1/2*[1] = 1/2.