I went the other way around, from a cloudflare to vercel, the main reason was I cannot connect custom domains to pages programmatically you can only do that after you create a new domain asset and transfer its nameservers there, where in vercel, it just works Thanks for the video
I’ll tell you right now, I have segmented my applications entire backend and web architecture into workers and pages. Even the database is running in Cloudflare. Workers are insanely capable, they’re fast and they’re cost effective. Oh, and they never fall over. Cloudflare 1000% > Vercel IMO.
Queues and event driven architecture = Inngest. I use NextJS, Vercel, Supabase (Postgres+Prisma), Upstash and Inngest. I was hard core deep into 100+ resources in AWS/Terraform before.
Yes! This is been on my mind for so long, but I got to admit I’ve been on auto pilot following the good DX and what seems popular and works for me. Especially when working on projects that need to be handed over to clients, cloud flower seems to make a lot more sense than the alternatives which are clearly meant for internal teams
CF has been a revelation since I started using it to build a remix site, but not being able to connect to the KV store etc. in development is a real drag.
Do you have a newsletter or anything else where you do longer in depth content? Just stumbled upon your youtube and it's great but the focus seems to be on youtube shorts
@@bholmesdev You're that swe that quickly ramped up at faang right? A video or a blog post on how you did that from a technical perspective would be great. Really like your content, I subscribed Edit: I think I may have confused you with another dev but still you're clearly knowledgeable so what I said still stands lol
cloudflare is amazing - I just deployed a full stack Astro + solid front end with Hono backend and uses r2 for storage and it will cost $0 until people use it. The way it’s supposed to be.
well considering Next.js Cloudflare is not a real alternative, I hit a wall after using server actions and middleware where Cloudflare kept asking me to run every single page on the edge, and then once I did that I hit the limit for edge functions bundle so I was forced to go back to Vercel. It is good for smaller projects I guess, in case of Next.js. Btw I don't fully understand what caused it to ask me to add edge everywhere, beacuse it was not happening before, my guess is server actions or middleware...idk
Yeah that's a tough one. I'll admit Next.js and Cloudflare aren't a great match for the bundling concerns you mentioned. There also isn't a roadmap to access the cloudflare runtime from your Next.js dev server. Cloudflare is betting on tools that use Vite, which would be Astro, Remix, Nuxt, and SvelteKit. It's a lot to ask people to try new frameworks! But as an Astro enthusiast, I'd say it's worth it.
I don’t think, I am a “Vercel Stan” I just couldn’t find a worthy alternative, tbh all these alternatives are similar to switching to Firefox for no good reason other than being different
... I still don't even know why people want the cloud for most projects. It's slow to develop for, and just generally slow (maybe they solved edge db replication stuff over the last few years, which would help) ... and for some reason, also expensive at any real scale.
Imagine if cloudflare forked next.js or created their opiniated web framework that equals or surpasses the DX of next.js. That would be the end of vercel. Not sure why they don't do it?
D1 and R2 are unfortunately not actually distributed yet like you mention in your video. Super easy to accidentally think they are… only thing I don’t like about Cloudflare’s platform is this misleading marketing…
This channel is criminally underrated.
nah
Agreed. Is he the GenZ Theo?
People don’t know Ben, which means they don’t know Astro still. What a sad world 😢
Criminal as in stealing one of most popular Ben Awad's video thumbnail?
Cloudflare is definitely climbing the list of my go-to deployment providers.
Don't let Theo see this...
Theo is a jr dev with who has followers because they are up and coming devs that don't know any better.
Damn im less skilled than a jr dev @@1015AK
@@1015AKlmfao for real, some of these "coding influencers" make it waaaaay too obvious they're just influencers.
Pretty sure that guy is being paid by Vercel on the side
@@nabilfreemanduh they were sponsoring him and now deal is dono
You're a walking ad for Astro. The best one can imagine.
🤣
The humor of this video is on point
'WorkerDeezNu...' Laughed out Loud, would subscribe again.
It’s a great strategy to get engagement. The explainer was fantastic though
My man your channel is probably the best of its kind
workerdeez
YOU'RE LEAVING THE COMME
Gottem’
Nuts
nutttttz
@@bholmesdev nice one, I liked you vscode theme what is please?
can't lie, you look and feel like a teenage Linus from LinusTechTips, who was basically a teenager as well until he started growing a beard.
Dude, please make more content. This was fantastic.
great vid. Packed full of eastereggs, especially the email one was hilarious.
PS: workerdeez nuts!
your content is amazing dude. didn't think your energy on stream could be topped, but i was clearly wrong. keep it up!
I never worked with Vercel, only know it by name. I watched the whole video because your presentation style is so great. A job well done 👏
I went the other way around, from a cloudflare to vercel, the main reason was I cannot connect custom domains to pages programmatically you can only do that after you create a new domain asset and transfer its nameservers there, where in vercel, it just works
Thanks for the video
Instant sub after these first 2 minutes, nice vid !
This thumbnail is out of this world
Ben I follow you on twitter and usually just see your shorts. This video is hilarious and amazing, well done
ben you're too funny
and right most of the time
love it
Now we wait for that passive aggressive Leerob article
that Trader Joe's analogy was so good I started clapping, I know for a fact that epiphany at 2am where you came up with that was delicious
That was refreshing and good content at the same time.
The blocker is always just code compatibility.
I’ve been a CloudFlare Stan for 5+ years. So happy it’s being recognized.
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Genius. And I’m in full agreement on this direction as well
I’ll tell you right now, I have segmented my applications entire backend and web architecture into workers and pages. Even the database is running in Cloudflare. Workers are insanely capable, they’re fast and they’re cost effective.
Oh, and they never fall over.
Cloudflare 1000% > Vercel IMO.
Nice, glad you're checking out Cloudflare databases too!
Queues and event driven architecture = Inngest.
I use NextJS, Vercel, Supabase (Postgres+Prisma), Upstash and Inngest.
I was hard core deep into 100+ resources in AWS/Terraform before.
Brazil mentioned.
And workerdeeznuts.
I fucking worship astro, and now i need more, moooreeee
Yes! This is been on my mind for so long, but I got to admit I’ve been on auto pilot following the good DX and what seems popular and works for me.
Especially when working on projects that need to be handed over to clients, cloud flower seems to make a lot more sense than the alternatives which are clearly meant for internal teams
Cloudflare is my best kept secret. You are about to ruin it for me. They're so hugely underrated.
It's like that one band you heard at the bar before they blew up. Except Cloudflare keeps putting out HITS
This was fantastic. Subscribed.
One of my favorite creators ❤
That intro alone made sub 😂
Cloudflare fanboy here, subbed
good job Ben
The American visitor was on point
CF has been a revelation since I started using it to build a remix site, but not being able to connect to the KV store etc. in development is a real drag.
You should do a part 2 on SST Ion - you can deploy SST apps to cloudflare now
Woah didn't know that
Do you have a newsletter or anything else where you do longer in depth content? Just stumbled upon your youtube and it's great but the focus seems to be on youtube shorts
Ah, I don’t but it’s an idea! Want to produce more long content as well but once every 1-2 months is my best case with the level of editing
@@bholmesdev You're that swe that quickly ramped up at faang right? A video or a blog post on how you did that from a technical perspective would be great. Really like your content, I subscribed
Edit: I think I may have confused you with another dev but still you're clearly knowledgeable so what I said still stands lol
No video has ever made me follow an account this fast LoL
Gotta boost this man
this is some real stuff
underrated af
cloudflare is amazing - I just deployed a full stack Astro + solid front end with Hono backend and uses r2 for storage and it will cost $0 until people use it. The way it’s supposed to be.
Convinced me enough to buy Cloudflare shares.
I use it all the time. Only positive experiences
What is the theme you are using for vscode and terminal👀
well considering Next.js Cloudflare is not a real alternative, I hit a wall after using server actions and middleware where Cloudflare kept asking me to run every single page on the edge, and then once I did that I hit the limit for edge functions bundle so I was forced to go back to Vercel. It is good for smaller projects I guess, in case of Next.js. Btw I don't fully understand what caused it to ask me to add edge everywhere, beacuse it was not happening before, my guess is server actions or middleware...idk
Yeah that's a tough one. I'll admit Next.js and Cloudflare aren't a great match for the bundling concerns you mentioned. There also isn't a roadmap to access the cloudflare runtime from your Next.js dev server. Cloudflare is betting on tools that use Vite, which would be Astro, Remix, Nuxt, and SvelteKit. It's a lot to ask people to try new frameworks! But as an Astro enthusiast, I'd say it's worth it.
need to give this a try, thx
This kid will go far.
What about SST? Love to see how to leverage SST with Cloudflair to really move out of Vercel forever
The Astro Cloudflare adapter was just batched with some bug fixes and hybrid mode seems to be working correctly now 🤞
Not SSR mode though
@@danfascia really? Because I am using it in Hybrid mode, and I is working
@@TerryDellino it works, but the environment variable importing has gone really messed up in a recent version
I don’t think, I am a “Vercel Stan” I just couldn’t find a worthy alternative, tbh all these alternatives are similar to switching to Firefox for no good reason other than being different
kind of new format, nice
Next JS is like Kosher Organic Dark Chocolate Coffee Buzz Bar.
workerDEEEEEEZ!!
I'm sorry
Well done!
might just move to cloudflare after this haha
for me, cloudflare and deno deploy are the future!
... I still don't even know why people want the cloud for most projects. It's slow to develop for, and just generally slow (maybe they solved edge db replication stuff over the last few years, which would help) ... and for some reason, also expensive at any real scale.
Great video
Can you please tell me what font and theme you use on vscode?
monolisa.dev
marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=astro-build.houston
Based Arc browser user 💯 I can't go back
the nakeyjakey of dev
The highest compliment 🙇♂️
What’s you vs code config?? It looks cool. Take this 🍻
marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=astro-build.houston
If you needed a regular server, like Express, does Cloudflare have anything for that?
Hono + cloudflare workers
@@ParajulibkrmHono + Pages for API instead
Doesn’t the of dev parity makes this an immediate no for most enterprise high stakes use cases?
brazil mentioned!
This is a good one. 👏
Is it written somewhere that all Ben's need to hold a microphone?
Imagine if cloudflare forked next.js or created their opiniated web framework that equals or surpasses the DX of next.js. That would be the end of vercel. Not sure why they don't do it?
Please not another Js web framework 😅
Just use Remix instead of the Next nonsense
nice worker dude, please keep deez coming
Earned my subscribe!
Dude you're an animal in a good way.
womp womp
lol, out of our backend
D1 Database for the win.
2:36 BRAZIL MENTIONED LET'S GO 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Brazil mentioned
chadflare
Heck, even vercel Nextjs, which is ReactJs 😅😅😅
D1 and R2 are unfortunately not actually distributed yet like you mention in your video. Super easy to accidentally think they are… only thing I don’t like about Cloudflare’s platform is this misleading marketing…
You're a 10x Developer
I don't trust like that
South Americans catching strays 😅
Has someone told you, that you resemble Tom Holland
Let's go Cloudflare!
SUBSCRIBEDDDDDDD
cloudflare >
LOLOL..."chicken nuggets of code"...😆
yo
yo
Yoooo
you need to grow mustache. or at least get the fake one.
😂
workerdeez n
Bullshit
I know right? I was shocked too at how good the video was. I was like nah son this ain’t real.
next.js is definitely overrated, you’ve just described it as it is one piece at a time and package them all.
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