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I watched that too! IMO, it was the show "I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here!" that family forced me to watch sometimes, that REALLY exposed the truth of how cruel and disgusting these game shows could be!
its so disturbing how performative a lot of peoples concerns about childrens safety online is. its easy to call a stranger a pedo, but a lot of people refuse to reckon with the facts when their friends are the ones posing a threat to minors.
I think the worst is that situations like these aren't used to raise real awareness for the lack of child safety provided by the parents and social media platforms and instead primarely used to target completely unrelated groups of people. I've never seen anything comperable to the outrage at trans, gay, black people and co. get when a white person does the exact same thing. That the actual safety of our children or exploitation of others by people in power is a side event to anti-human culture war bs.
it's perhaps the most performative concern out there. if they really cared about protecting kids from predators they'd be advocating for teaching proper sex ed, teaching about consent and how predators are very often people they are related to, etc etc. I could go on. but you never see the "shoot your neighborhood pedo" brigade talking about these things.
Reminds me of my grandma claiming haitian and cuban immigrants were all just a bunch of r*pists for literally no reason other than racism but when her husband was caught with a 10yo she completely denied it, defended him and called everyone a liar just goes to show many people don't care about children at all and are only willing to call minorities pedos
It's a triple whammy. LGBT people get harassed, threatened, and attacked over this shit, actual abuse is reported less and less often, and abuse victims get to agonize over whether their experiences will be taken seriously at all, used as an excuse to spread xenophobia, or taken as an attempt to start another witch hunt. Nobody wins...except for abusers and fascists, anyway.
i love the fact that people are like jUST DOn'T paRTICipATe, when Jimmy literally owns/owned the houses that his staff lived in, the health insurance for his staff, etc. That much power over someone and people still defend his treatment of these people...
If I was really racist to a black person online and said they were a menace, and then it turned out that black person had actually done bad things, that wouldn’t then vindicate my racism lmao.
@@somedudewatchintv52971) not how that works, forgetting racism doesn't make it go away 2) the court of pubic opinion is not the arbiter of truth you think it is
@@nman551 he was right though. Сhrіs Tyson had been a crееру sех-pеst wеirdo оnline for a long time, and “coming out as a trans wоmаn”/an almost archetypical mаle fеtіshіst was not in fact contradictory to that, but раrt of it. So if people were getting ranсіd vibes from him even before they knew the full ехtent of his behaviour, they were right
49:29 it is crazyyy that people think that signing a contract means that it is acceptable to treat people however you want. You cannot be a slave because you signed a contract saying you wouldn't get any money
@@MrTVintro jimmy should have paid for his medical expenses and trauma therapy. Also you don't know what is said explicitly in the contract. This isn't just a normal contest production. There's some hocus pocus in the bg.
39:53 I think the wildest thing about this bit, is its exactly what the show Squid Game was ALSO about- about the way these contestants were very much willing to go through the game because an amount of money a rich guy can afford to portion off to a show each year isn't much for him, but it sure it means literally and metaphorically their lives to the contestants
they literally get to leave after the first game once the threat of death is established and like 3/4 of them voluntarily come back because the imminent threat of death in the games is still better than the certainty of it outside due to having no money but you know it's a critique of communism because the north korean said south korea (famously communist country) was supposed to be better than this
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i'm old, i was never in beast's potential audience, i don't want to do the whole "obviously this guy was bad, i knew he was bad because i didn't care about him for other reasons" schtick ... but man, saying "this guy gives me bad vibes" three years ago or whatever was the easiest called shot for anybody online. yeah, no shit a guy throwing a bunch of money around, jerking himself off about how philanthropic he is in africa, cultivating an army of child fans, etc., turned out to be a scumbag, and it's baffling that anybody (any adult, anyway) would be surprised by this
Exactly how I’ve felt the past three years. Just never liked the vibe. I had roommates who became obsessed with Mr Beast videos as their “reality TV trash” as their lives were kinda falling apart and they got really into the videos. So, no one is immune to this kind of content I suppose.
@@Jakeurb8ty82 Felt like I was watching one of those "IT'S JUST A JOKE BRO!!!!" asshole prank channels that tried to pretend to be good by throwing money at the homeless, so I get the general vibe, 3 card monty hustle is also very very accurate.
I had that thought while watching Bill Maher and other adults do the "But he does such good charity work" thing. Surely you don't really buy that? Surely you know that performative philanthropy is a red flag? RIGHT??
I think all rich people should have their money taken away except her because she knows what to do with it and I think she might be the only person who does
He just screenshots comments from the dumbest, bigoted kids online and then edits them together and reads them aloud like he's documenting something. He's a lazy slop content creator, coherency is not a requirement, his audience of dumb kids just enjoy hearing bigoted things and internet drama.
one thing people are always doing, as you know, is to constantly try to get diversity points with their rich friends. it's like one of our favorite things to do, you see, to drastically change our lives so that our friends see us as "diverse" in some way. a fundamentally human behavior imo
that part was strangely cathartic for me. like so many dumb shits have argued with me before about how mr beast doesn't deserve criticism and look at all the poors he's helping how generous etc. etc. and, would you look at that! this opinion is also held by noted gobshite bill maher. good to know this braindead analysis was _also_ shared by _very rich and influential_ dumbasses, too, and not just the garden-variety idiots i waste my time engaging with online. it was a sort of vindication-for if your thoughts on a subject align with those of _bill maher,_ it usually indicates that you screwed up somewhere and need to go back to the drawing board. i only wish i knew at the time that it was a Maher Opinion; would have saved me a lot of time if i'd just told them to fuck off instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I never looked fondly upon MrBeast for "building water wells". In university, there were always students participating in medical voluntourism. Theyd fundraise a couple thousands of dollars to fund their stupid trip to a poor nation to help build a water well. Sounds great right? No. Theyre not qualified whatsoever. All they did was make themselves feel better and to add to their application so they can get into med schools. (Except it actually hurts their chances at decent schools...) Their wells were never sustainable. Their schools were never sustainable. They dont get used by locals, they take away from the local economy, and these kids pat themselves on the back. Some of them actually end up killing locals because they pretend to be doctors. He built a couple wells, cool, will they be used 5 years from now?
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Feel free to cite that claim. Especially since most of the African centered charity work was handled by local partners. Its not like the crew just hired a drill and yolo'd a well into existence and left.
@@edwardnygma8533 probably because decent schools know what that type of people are since i recon they have met quite a few people who try to look better by having that on their cv
It feels like everything is so screwed up, I just wonder, what are people supposed to do to help? Just give funding and donations? Because that... Doesn't feel like it'd help.
It’s kind of funny (but mostly exhausting) how former Mr. Beast fans get so angry when people rightfully criticized him before he was cancelled because they don’t want to confront the fact that hey, maybe it is weird to exploit the needy, even if you do help them.
RIGHT like, in any other capacity, if you see someone try and go up to a homeless person and tell them "If you do a little dance for me right now, I will give you lots of money." we all rightfully call that weird and unethical. But when this guy does essentially that but films it for his online audience of millions upon millions, suddenly it's okay and he is a true hero. Never understood the admiration.
If you ever feel the need to defend the existence of ultra rich people keep in mind that every single day they go through life knowing they have enough money to change many many many lives for better but they don't.
Well, why does it matter which side I am going to support regardless of which side I'm on This is similar to a political party exclaiming the other side to be wrong just *because* they belongs to the opposite group. Are billionaires and rich peeps obliged? And if I speak against a bad faith argument, then does it matter which side benefits from it?
@vibhav6551 What dafuq are you trying to say here? Are you unironically trying to apply Centrist brainrot to class division? Because if the only reason you can think of that people don't like the wealthy is because they're not wealthy themselves, you really don't have any understanding of what you're talking about. People have y'know, actual reasons to sympathize with or be against political groups, especially when one group upholds a system that benefits them at the expense of everyone else.
@Uhhhhhhhhhhh6 which is all due fair, I'm haven't even said anything against the person here, nor am I commenting on individualism My sole issue is with the argument that "you are wrong because you side with the rich." To boil that down my argument to 'centralist idea' feel bad faith, but I won't indulge in that area I come here to disagree against the claims of the commentor above, which holds this certain structure of downplaying the arguments simply because of the side which it benefits
The wells were defective. Each country spoke out to say that he was doing it too quickly and didn't do enough research also lunchables has a pretty decent contract with the department of education for certain areas and I'm pretty sure that mrbeast would rather have that contract considering he's lining himself up as a direct competitor
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 They partenered with local charities for the well building. Unless you have any info we don't we can reasonably assume they handle maintenance. Edit: the campaign website actually specifically mentions maintenance by local charities.
The whole Ava Kris Tyson thing still leaves a knot in my belly. Ava was, and maybe still is, a weirdo who probably shouldn't have gone unchecked considering she was platformed by a creator who's main audience is children. But it's so abundantly clear that the whole 'evidence gathering' was not borne from consideration and clarity, but because Ava came out as trans and they wanted the dirt. Even at the expense of, by their own narrative, 'a victim'.
Fr. Immediately after everything got exposed Sunny's comments were flooded with people saying shit like "They hated him because he told the truth," and I was sitting here like what truth? At best bro was speculating about Jimmy losing views/subscribers because his preteen to young-adult following wouldn't like seeing a trans person on screen, which his chronically online ass *knew* (or at least should know) would never happen. If they don't care about the shit the Pauls have done there's zero chance they'll care about Ava being trans. I will genuinely never understand why or how they've twisted his transphobic bs into something to pat him on the back for because the way it stands there's only two ways to interpret it; A) He did zero extra research and purely upon hearing Ava is trans decided to make a video acting like Jimmy and his friends are cartoon characters that should push her aside purely because it's "not good for branding," which is already a bad option by itself or B) even worse he *did* do extra research, discovered the pdf shit by himself a full year before anyone else, popped this hate boner for Ava and decided to make his video purely for clicks *but* actively avoided warning anyone about a pdf file being best friends with and working for one of the biggest kid's content youtubers on the site because it might've put even bigger damper on his numbers. Either way you cut it, dude is a piece of shit and there is absolutely no reason for people to praise him lmao.
@@erroneousfax9351I made the horrible mistake of replying to some of those comments and arguing with the dumb kids who watch Sunny's content and they were literally giddy at what they perceived to be vindication for Sunny because their logic was that since the conclusion was technically correct two years later for completely different reasons. I was a real world example of that Bill Murray quote about arguing with a stupid person.
Charles Feeny was one of the better ones, who in 1986, realized he had far more money than he could ever spend and took the majority of his then $6 Billion to put into a fund to give away...the last of that money he gave away in 2020 and still had enough money to live in a Victorian era townhouse in San Francisco before passing away in '22. I could use more billionaires doing that, or better yet, having the government tax the shit outta of everything over $100 million, which is still an obscene amount of wealth to go through in one lifetime and make them pay their fair share.
Big facts dunno how kids (I'm not even 30) can be so naive as to think the single biggest corporate entity on YT and one of the top 500 global (especially for Jimmy's age and generation) business people has any sort of interest in fair practice and "giving back." They ruthlessly got to where they are, and stay there, for a reason. The more someone screams in your face that they're doing this for a good cause, "love giving stuff away," that they are DEFINITELY an ethical autocrat.. I've never watched and am totally not surprised, how are there unironic glazers--youll find them in this comments section even--that Jimmy dindu nuffin, and if he did, it wasn't that bad; you jelly, you mad, DRINK PRIME™ etc. What a coincidence that someone who exploited every loopho-- well, it's not a loophole, YT is just a corporate oligarchy that doesn't actually have consumer protection-- *WHAT A COINCIDENCE* that a scumbag used to pulling every dirty, greasy edge possible to skim extra bucks and make the most "exciting content" immediately runs into FCC-esque adjacent problems when they have to deal with real (well, realer than YT which is just exceptionalism while pretending to care) work and safety standards
bro the guy who said 'you can't complain about a bad work environment because you chose to took the money'....... we're fucking cooked as a society dude. i didn't even think it was possible to get boot so far down your throat.
and when ava tyson was actually called out for something mr beast was there playing along or ignoring her antics whilst his video held mr beast to a "can do no wrong" standard, he basically predicted nothing, just expected being trans was enough to cause career ending controversies when he was the one starting the controversy
"If you are bisexual, you should not talk to children." Saying you think sexuality influences whether or not you can talk to children says a lot about you. Primarily, it says that you are not safe to have around children.
What even is that about? I mean hetero people raise kids of the opposite gender than themselves all of the time. What does being attracted to more than one gender have to do with being an adult raising children? Most adult people are not attracted to children in a sexual way, regardless of what gender or genders they are attracted to. Being straight or bisexual has nothing to do with attraction to minors. And any parent who struggles with being sexually attracted to their own children needs serious help and probably shouldn't be alone with their own children or any children. Being bisexual or pansexual doesn't turn someone into a sex crazed animal that wants to screw everyone they meet. To be at all consistent with their theories, they should be just as concerned that if you're straight you shouldn't be alone around children of the opposite gender as you might abuse them if you're attracted to the gender they happen to be. At least by their twisted logic. If that was a valid concern, then I guess the only safe people to be raising children are the asexuals. Somehow, I doubt these anti LGBTQ + bigots would be for that either, considering aces are part of the LGBTQ + community.
I've heard this argument when i was stuck around conservative christians. I genuinely had to explain to the guy that being gay doesn't mean you feel the uncontrollable urge to rape all men/boys in sight. They don't see bi/homosexuality as equivalent to heterosexuality
People victim blaming Jack Weddle are insane man, imagine being mistreated and tortured at your work whatever that job is and everyone be like "oh this is your fault, you can just quit at any moment also you should not take your paycheck to keep your creditbility if you quit."
@@MrTVintroyou have a job that pays you presumably. Now. Imagine your employer owns your house and healthcare. If you quit you loose everything yea? Now he tells you that instead of just stacking boxes you now have to do so and transport them without a forklift and also maybe you don't get your salary if you're slower than your coworker. You've got some super great options in this situation have you not? Now also add peer pressure and actual real life fear of loosing everything you have into the mix.
Thing is, had you called MrBeast a shithead in the previous videos you bring up, you'd have been raged at by the same people who say your comments aged like milk now. You can never be correct
Yeah, this. A UA-camr I watch has been calling out Mr beast for years and every single time he would be dogpiled by beast fans. After everything started unfolding it was quite vindicating to see everyone reassess his videos from three years ago calling out the exploitation.
@@Patashu absolutely. He stayed true to his core beliefs, applied them to someone who, underneath the glamorisation, was just another rich person and was proven right when they did exactly what other rich people do. I think there's a good message there to be a little more skeptical of content we consume online, even if the person seems like the exception to the rule.
I never liked mr beast cause his charity work always made me feel icky. Like I know you have to fund it somehow, but filming people and making them humiliate themselves??? Always made me feel weird. And I don’t feel like you deserve a round of applause if ur mega rich and you give to charity. Like, it’s nice and good, but if you’re mega rich, you SHOULD be doing that. When it’s someone’s whole brand that they’re charitable (literally a brand) it’s just inevitable something gross is going on.
I think it's a mistake to think of it as charity at all. If giving things away is part of your business model, which it absolutely is in the case of Mr Beast, then it's not charity. It's a business expense.
@@wendyheatherwood yea you said this way better than I can coney - it always felt so gross cause it’s like, why is everyone praising him it’s what he’s decided his brand is !
@@wendyheatherwood it always felt gross when people do charity, for money charity is supposed to be giving up part of your wealth to people who need it more or to make your community a better place. If you're giving away money and through that make all your money back AND THEN SOME. You're not doing charity, you're profiting off vulnerable people.
I've done a lot of volunteer work in my life and came close to becoming a social worker and it was so obvious to me that MrBeast's content isn't what actually helping people looks like
I don't get this argument he isn't (or wasn't at least for most of the time) mega rich. Up until Feastables became a success his net worth probably dipped into the negative some months. I also still don't really get how "humiliate themselves" applies. When we go back to the original giveaway video he literally just hands the homeless guy the money, asks him about his life (not gonna deny its a slightly awkward "interview" but you try doing better) and they take him out to dinner and that's the video. Skip ahead a few videos to giving pizza delivery people money. Same thing, here's your money, a little bit of talking, and that's it. 3 mil pennies for 3 mil subscriber, same shit. Ridiculous tips for waiters, same shit, hell in that one they mostly don't even talk with the waiter after they give the tip. Tipping waitresses gold bars, playstations etc. Same shit. Like, we're literally talking the absolutele highest chance of humiliating someone because its unexpected, in public, to people who are not likely to not have a lot of money so you can make them act out.... And they don't. They have respectful if sometimes awkward conversations and they leave. Show me the humiliation. That time they hired a bank building and gave out free money? Same. Exact. Shit. Money, respectful if awkward conversation, the end. They had a few people where they had them participate in a short skit as if they were legit applying for a loan or taking out money from the bank but is that humiliating people? Show me the humiliation. Please.
“Everyone hates their job” is something my father says to me as genuine advice. I don’t hate him for it, I know he’s just trying to help me through this life, but sometimes I just want him to understand that living under constant fear of labor exploitation isn’t a good mental space to be in for what I understand to be a large majority of your life. You only get one life, and as you get older, you’ll slowly lose opportunities to experience certain aspects of life to its fullest due to health issues. Isn’t it at least a little concerning that most of the common man’s life will be taken up by exploitative labor?
I feel there are two entirely different contexts to this 1. There's "hating your job" because it's genuinely abusive. Most people don't do that. 2. there's "hating your job" because inevitably there will be times when you feel angry and frustrated at something you do every day, no matter what it is, even something you love. A few people do that. 3. there's the idea that you'd rather be someplace else doing something different, but you just gotta stick with your current lot for awhile and get through it. Universally everyone does this. Thinking that the "right" job for you is one where you want to be there 100% of the time is delusional. I love programming. I also love anime. I don't "hate" my job. But I'd rather watch animes than be at work. No, that's not a bad attitude to have in life. I'll do my job, then go watch some animes. If I had a job in the anime industry, I'd be counting the minutes until I can get back to that GitHub project I know I can get working in just a few more clicks...
@@pordawgWork is always going to be a part of life, but there's a difference between exploitative, abusive work where you're not paid enough to live on and treated badly, VS. work that is necessary but fulfilling. A world where we can work together and provide for ourselves and communities WITHOUT being treated like shit is possible.
The one thing rich people have over the poor, is that they generally don't expect their children to live like a slave just because they did, and actually make sure their children will always be taken care of whereas most poor families try to push you out of their hair and responsibility as soon as possible.
The ava tyson situation infuriates me mainly because i knew the transphobes would glom onto the one trans person that could be verified as a predator and act like that made them right all along as if one trans person happening to be a piece of shit, starting before she even transitioned, is at all statisically significant against the multitude of non lgbt celebrities and the like with grooming scandals
What irritates me is the only reason they're coming for her is because she's trans. Look at the energy they have for Dr. Disrespect. He quite literally admitted it and they're all coming to defend him. I've even seen dudes "congratulate" him for getting someone so young :( I'm tired of this world.
So much a case of "if you f--s really want equality, you'll hold her accountable just like him" and meanwhile they attack only her and defend every guy accused
@@fawnieeefor an even better comparison, Colleen Ballinger did nearly identical stuff and it took for years for Adam McIntyre to be believed…because Colleen is a cis woman.
@fawnieee you don't even need to move past this story to find an example of this. Mr Beast quite literally participated in the predatory behaviour whit Ava too. As Jack said, he quite literally interacted within the discord server where Ava was inapropriate with minors in too. Mr Beast also interacted with shadman. The drawing Ava bought from shadman was hanged in the room where Mr Beast slept in for a long while. Mr Beast hired know predators. But most of the people who went after Ava didn't share the same energy to go after him when all this also implicated him too. Now don't get me wrong, Ava doesn't deserve a platform after what she has done. But I think this instance has shown that most of the people who went after her didn't really care about protecting any one and just saw a convinient way to attack a trans person. If it really is just about protecting children, then taking down Mr Beast should have been part of the goal too.
I'm a truck driver and the lack of understanding of coercion is what keeps this industry afloat. People don't understand it because it's kinda like phishing. "I'm too >insert adjective< to be coerced"
Yup. That would never happen to me. I would definitely be on the side of the millionaires and not the ahh ahh stain they wipe off their boot. Type of delulu.
@@tinoesroho Except there is no implication. You decide you've had enough? Great, you get paid whatever days you've been in the room. Which likely adds up to more than a few monthly wages earned in just a few days. There is no implication that if you don't keep participating that you'll be fired from a job because it isn't a job.
The cynical side of me thinks that had Tyson not transitioned, no one would have cared about whatever weird shit she was getting into. It would have been swept under the rug ala Dr. Disrespect (whom I personally believe would have gone to meet up with that minor had he not been caught so early in the process of setting it up).
God the "He claims he hates money yet he talks about wanting money!" is really feels like the "YOU DON'T LIKE CAPITALISM YET YOU EXIST! IPHON VENEZUELLA BOTTOM TEXT 1 BILLION DEAD" meme presented as an actual argument.
Yeah, I was watching that, and that just angered me. Like, he's talking about the biggest dichotomy in our society: The fact that pursuing money will ruin your life just as much as not having money will. And then they use him touching on this deep-rooted problem as some kind of half-assed gotcha.
The only other option to making money is literally dying from starvation, so to claim that people shouldn't complain when they said yes to something for money is utterly absurd. In a world dominated by money, the control of capital restricts us from any real free choice.
Fully agree. A lot of people think that hypocrisy* is something to write home about, and that it completely destructs an argument (which is a logical fallacy). It's sort of an issue with people not seeing themselves in the other person's shoes, as a lot of people tend to distance themselves from the person they're debating. But if your family was on the brink of homelessness, who knows what things you'd need to do to stay afloat? *By hypocrisy, in this instance I'm talking about people who speak out about actions (or jobs) that they partake in.
Yes!!! A lot of people would be willing to take part in the challenge that Jake Weddle did because, like him, they're desperate to pay off student loan debt that we all got suckered into.
Fun fact, this was one of the main points of Squid Game which was the most watched on Netflix. Did no one understand the plot of Squid Game. Because it wasn't that subtle.
It's the same playbook society always uses to shift blame onto the disempowered in any regards. You want to fight climate change? It's your fault for buying plastic-wrapped products! You're constantly one paycheck away from homelessness? It's your fault for not using leisure time to pick up extra shifts! You got SA'd? It's your fault for wearing revealing clothing! Instead of risking their own status by challenging the system to be less oppressive toward others, it's easier for those who live in safety and stability to blame the victims of those systems.
One thing I will say is that I understand that building wells in Africa is a very kind thing to do, but for a couple of generations now it’s been a trope used to make fun of what some people refer to as “white saviourism” and what is generally a symptom of lack of social awareness; plus we’ve understood for years now that building wells does no good in the long term unless life time maintenance is somehow provided with the wells (it never is). In this case I think it’s more his money making complex that made him do it, but that’s besides the point: the fact he thought he was bigger than that decades old “building wells in Africa” meme is crazy to me. He could have done so many other things and avoided that criticism and it’s like he was baiting people.
Ohoho, it's me, an eighteenth century factory owner somehow able to operate legally in the year of our lord 2024! People get maimed and die in my factories all the time, but some of them are paid quite well, and they choose to work there, so clearly my factory's operating procedures are just fine as-is!
I just find it always so telling when people who bring the sussy stuff in regards to Ava up now would 100% defend it if she had never come out as trans.
Sunnyv2 does not deserve any kind of praise for "predicting" Mr. Beast's downfall. All that guy said was transphobic bullshit. Im still surprised that there are people who unironically believes in what Sunny has to say.
Dumb kids will believe whatever they want to, especially if their only friends are other bigots they talk to online. I'm convinced the average age of his viewers is 15
I think that it's so important to clarify that Ava Tyson is transgender and also a terrible person, but those are unrelated. SunnyV2 is just transphobic, gross.
@@ssesssusman9417so. If I can name a cis person that is terrible, does that mean every cisgender individual is bad by default? Someone's horribleness is not related to their gender identity. She might as well have been cis for all intends and purposes, her character, her behavior would not have changed in the slightest.
Like bruh if i make a billion guesses about what celebrity will die on what day and one actually happens that doesn’t suddenly make me a prophet, that just makes me lucky
I don't hate Critikal... but that line "Mr. Beast does everything that Twitter wants other rich people to do"... No... we want rich people to pay their fucking taxes, stop exploiting their workers, stop lobbying and working to pull up their ladder and instead lobby for more ladders. If a billionaire pays for my crazy expensive medical treatment I'm STILL beholden to them, they haven't FUCKING CHANGED anything, but an influential dude like Hank Green forcing pharma companies to drop their shitty patents so we can actually manufacture and distribute TB medication for a reasonable goddamn price... THATS FUCKING LIFE CHANGING... FUCKING LIFE SAVING. New Mr Beast video idea, instead of something like "I treated 1000 people for HIV" Why don't you just invite Martin Shkreli to a cruise, leave him on a deserted island for a month, and kick him of the yacht if he somehow survives... in Minecraft.
Yeah, Mr. Beast does the opposite for what I’d want him to do. But that’s the problem, Critikal and the like don’t have a clue what it is we want the rich to do and what the left in general wants. I suppose it makes a lot of the divide make sense… but I’m still confused how they’re confused.
@@jaybee4118they are incurious and listen to the most outrageous and overtop people and just decide that's what all leftists are like and believe. They will look at some terminally online Twitter addict with some vaguely progressive views and be like "This is a leftist. This is what all leftists are like"
I think a lot of people think "paying taxes" and "donating to charity" are essentially equivalent, so those people think Mr. Beast is *essentially* paying his taxes and "giving back his fair share." People just have difficulty imagining that donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars is a pittance to the truly rich. (One hundred thousand is literally 0.001% of a billion.) It would be like if a normal person just paid a handful of pennies for their yearly taxes. For such a tiny price to them, they get massively inflated reputations that prevents the majority doing anything meaningful against them.
I think Sean clarified in his podcast that he didn't think that Mr Beast is bad, and even had a chat with Jimmy over DMs or something. I think it was on one of his brainleak episodes.
Seeing all the sub-zero reading comprehension arguments from people trying to shut down anyone who said anything even slightly critical about the way he went about his charity or the whole Squid Games thing was wild to me. And I saw this all going down back when it happened as someone with no strong feelings about Mr. Beast at the time, to the point that it kinda turned me off him and I didn’t care all that much to begin with. Seeing how rabidly people bent over backwards for this dude I don’t think most of them have spoken to or really know just reeked of something being deeply wrong. Especially seeing how badly they either misunderstood or intentionally misinterpreted the arguments people were making, for… some dude on the internet. That kind of energy is just repellent to me in a way that I didn’t care enough to fully describe at the time, because I have better things to do with my time, but absolutely ruined any chance I would’ve had at being even a passive Mr. Beast supporter. Absolute cult behavior.
Speaking as someone who also didn't know/care about him for a while (just watched video game or essay things so the "Live Challenge" stuff was never in my orbit aside from people doing them as one-off videos with friends), I feel like one of the weird moments from me was actually from the Ghost Kitchen video from Eddie Burback. In it, he basically talks about how various "restaurants" are in like, warehouses or inside of another restaurant, and the one thing I definitely remember was thinking while watching it "Huh, it feels weird seeing this random UA-camr just has a restaurant brand like this, especially since he's not a food person like Guy Fieri and such". Like it wasn't necessarily him doing anything bad (arguably Mr. Beast burgers was iffy because... the point of the episode), but it did stick out as "Oh huh, guess he is tied to questionable business practices". The one tweet of him also asking random people to make his chocolate bars look more presentable just also stuck out as odd, and while I can't find the video I remember one youtuber said they hated what Mr. Beast did with regards to how his influence affected UA-cam's algorithm. Like at no point did I see any of the actually awful stuff mentioned here, but from all the stuff I did see it was like "Oh, this guy somehow made it big and is definitely in it for the money now".
Had pretty much the exact same experience as you, I didn’t really think much of mr beast until I got exposed to the blind stupidity of his influencer defense squad. After that, anything that even remotely involved him just repulsed me.
I do not understand how anyone could have looked at Beast's immoral, egregious wealth and assumed that it meant he was anything remotely resembling good.
today i learned that going to the mental ward and being on a Mr. Beast video are way more similar than either should be, separately, much less mutually
@@esotericpince 🫂 I'm sorry to hear that and hope you get discharged soon. I would say I hope you feel better soon but, having just been to one about three months ago, I'm just going to assume that you'll have a better health outcome pretty much anywhere else and hope that comes sooner rather than later
@@jenny_azoth i'm actually having an ok enough experience (it's voluntary and in canada for context) thought it would be funnier to just agree with your comment 💔 im really privileged to be able to access a place like this (and to have mild enough mental health issues that i'm given more freedoms than the average person here, like going home on the weekend) sorry it was shitty for you :( thank you for the kind words anyway ! its complicated lol. it kind of sucks here but its not as bad as involuntary units or underfunded ones
Mr. Beast is in no way the "only" rich guy who spends the amount of money he does on charitable causes. He's just the biggest one who does so exclusively in the form of making UA-cam content and promoting his personal brands. Many, many people, both rich and not-so-rich, give money to charity all the time, it's just that most of them don't have massive audiences watching them.
Yeah that's the thing, there are rich people out there that do donate to charitable causes. The difference is that they don't make a big deal out of it and they're not known for it at all. MrBeast's entire brand is just "Hey look at me in the good guy look at me donating to all these charities oh I'm so nice I would never do anything terrible"
And charity isn’t systemic change. The money spent on outreach in Africa is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions extracted from Africa through economic exploitation by western countries and corporations.
@carlostaffanelly418 *dialectical materialism. Or read Why Marx Was Right by Terry Eagleton. It's marxism-lite, but for many people it would be a good place to start. It's short and very well-written.
People after watching Squid Game: “Wow such a genius critique about how capitalism allows money to be the most powerful tool to make people go through the most indecent, inhumane situations just to change their lives. The players are the true victims of the system.” People after MrBeast’s victims come out: “WELL IT’S THEIR FAULT FOR ACCEPTING THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD DIE TO BE IN YOUR PLACE AND YOU’RE COMPLAINING?”
“there’s a common tactic you can use to jump from ‘I dislike this person’ to ‘disliking this person is an important cause for everyone,’ and that’s calling someone a p***phile” And people just eat it up all the time. I guess the off-chance that you might get to vent sadism against the only broadly socially acceptable target is just too precious for people to pass up -.-;
Remember, if you want someone to support a cause, tell them that their children will be in danger if they don't support it. It worked for Hitler! No, really. This isn't a joke. It's in the 14 Words and everything. "Think of the children!" was straight up one of the excuses the Nazis used for their crimes.
I got to laugh at that because as someone who's been SA as a child by different predators. People really only give a fuck if it's a vague concept that's removed from them. No one's looking into the way so many cultures by design will protect incestuous predators, or look into child sex trafficking, or the way people dismiss children showing concerns, lack of discussions of consent to children (because oh no talking about content is talking about sex and that's taboo, because that's totally gonna help a victim to not know what's happening to them), the normalization of exerting power imbalance on children (even when it's not sexual) or even in this case internet safety. So many people want to get mad without looking into the real factors that contributes to this. You can see it already in this video with that guy who was like "Ava is a predator and Jimmy knew" and as soon as it was his brother suddenly "the victim was lying".
Twitter users realising they can call anyone they don't like a p*do and everyone will automatically take their side with no evidence: *cue evil laughter*
Does no one remember when he destroyed the thanksgiving of an entire community by buying out their only grocery store and donating this stuff a town over?
@@jamestaylor3805 Yes I know which video it is. I'm asking you to prove your claim that it ruined peoples Thanksgiving because they had to drive to a different city.
@@MrTVintro it was a poor community, couldn't drive anywhere... Thanksgiving ruined. It was a huge hoopla at the time and it's as if it has been nearly scrubbed from existence during the "we must all defend MrBeast" period.
@@jamestaylor3805 "scrubbed from existence" Just like my last reply it seems. TL;DR SAve A Lot location was in Greenville where MrBeast lives. There easily a dozen or more larger and smaller grocery stores, store was restocked same day. Nobodies Thanksgiving was ruined.
Bill Maher: "Who the fuck are you?" I'M A HUMAN BEING WHO IS NOT SWAYED BY $$$ AND ACTUALLY KNOWS WTF IS GOING ON, AND I ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE... that's who.
The entire wells thing got me, because I learned a local organization that had the contract was turned away, and instead the local government accepted help from an outside org that Beast had paid to dig the defunct wells, that were later found will fail within a decade. Thx Mr. Beast. The US based company didn't dig them to spec, and pocketed the Mr. Beast and government subsidy money.
Saw that coming a mile away because I've seen other rich crypto-loving grifters do the same with literally every project they got their hands on in Africa. (and yes Mr. Beast has some crypto interest, he hopped on along with Logan Paul on some crypto grift before.)
@@MrTVintro try looking for "wells of life" rather than beast. The US based faith organization that Beast partnered with. Not sure which part of what I said you're interested in, but focusing on them might get you better results.
Acting like “you chose to do this for money” is the fault of a person in a desperate situation is the most obtuse statement - how about “you chose to offer money to someone who is desperate enough to suffer that much for it”? Like the power dynamic is so obvious, but the assumption is that it’s okay for those with money to be able to do whatever they want over those who don’t. Acting like Mr Beast is not responsible for unethical treatment and quite frankly torture in the case of the unreleased isolation video - as if he didn’t choose to inflict this on people while waggling money as incentive - pretending this is somehow defensible is inconceivably stupid to me.
The situation around shadman has always made me insanely uncomfortable. Just knowing that so many famous youtubers were completely "fine" with it is so gross...
Not directly related to that but I swear the internet must be a safe haven for pdf files, I’m in fan communities that have some of those “1,000 yr old kid” characters, and every time I comment about how weird those characters are, it’s like a coin toss that some weirdo will come out argue that I’m being judgmental, and I’ll have to futilely attempt to explain how CP is still CP even if it’s anime. For some reason there’s a level of acceptance on the internet for owning cp because it’s not literally SAing kids
Even the creators of Smiling Friends and Sr. Pelo were 'okay' with him. It's just Newground boys protecting each other, but he was the one who "didn't grew up".
@@samkeiser9776 theres a level of disconnect for these creeps thats seriously dangerous. their main excuse is that it doesnt harm actual children when.... theres plenty of evidence and resources showing it being used as grooming material online
@@delunimbusits also funny when people ignore how blatantly racist sr pelo is too. one of the few videos i watched of his was a storytime about someone doing something because they're black (of course). not to mention the history of him using the n word
@@samkeiser9776 As much as I love playing Persona 5, the fandom and subreddit had me noping tf out of there as quickly as possible. It'll only take two and a half replies until someome starts arguing about how teachers should have the right to date students. Then, they'll go on their 'let me defend underage marriage' rant.
I know it's a small thing, but thank you for using Ava's correct pronouns while still discussing what she'd done. It's small, but so many jump to misgendering and being transphobic when a trans person turns out to be bad.
Yes! When you misgender a bad trans person you're not only being transphobic to them, you're being transphobic to ALL trans people. If someone was being racist towards a POC who did something bad and tried to justify it with "no no, I'm only being racist towards them, I'm not ACTUALLY racist," they'd be torn to shreds.
One guy out it best, "if you misgender a trans person just because they're bad, I'm looking at both of you weird now" these people have always been transphobic but only go mask off when it's suddenly acceptable to be bigoted because said minority turned out to be a bad person
It just makes it clear those people think being gendered correctly is some kind of 'privilege' 'good' trans people get which can be revoked for bad behaviour.
Same crowd who will put wicked trans people on blast, sneering about how they're not so perfect after all, are they?!?? Like, we never said they were infallible. We just said don't treat them as inherently evil for being trans.
I do find it bizarre that they want praise for making rip off versions, and it's all junk food that is no good for you on top of it being creatively bankrupt. If they wrote a book it would be called The Ravenous Larva, and it's better than The Hungry Caterpillar because it's 2 pages longer.
2 pages shorter, which is better because less time reading means more time for watching mr beast content. naturally all the artwork is ai slop, too, with no consistency.
I hate being right. I really, really do. I was content to just be annoyed that a youtuber had to "fix the world" with the most minimal charity and that he just gave me terrible vibes while he did it. To just take the damn L over being "one of those people." for daring question anything. Like I'm a professional hater for my health or something. When your gut tells you something, it's usually right. We're a social species and the red flags were always there, even if we can't consciously call them out. Never. Trust. The. Rich. Ever. They don't see you as a person. They don't get there without losing that ability.
god im right there with you. my cousin tried to get me into mr beast (hes older than me, we're both in our 30s). i told him i dont trust rich people. i hope now he sees why
if they were born rich, they don't stay rich without losing the ability (well, not before sinking to 'upper middle class' whatever that fucking means these days) if they weren't born obscenely rich, yeah.
Like I said before I'm waiting for Mr Beast, Logan and KSI to go into the drug trade and tell us all it's good because at least their product doesn't contain fentanyl.
I know Internet Comment Etiquette might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I found it a real temperature check when in one of his videos he stumbled upon SunnyV2's videos and, instead of leaving a trolling comment like he usually does, he simply used the "Don't recommend channel" button and went on with the video. Not even **he** wanted to give this guy more exposure.
@@80s_graffitireally? 2016 was when cringe culture was in full swing. You couldn't do ANYTHING the internet deemed to be cringe in the slightest. You like a game or a show? Cringe, get harrassed. That kind of thing. Stop looking at this hellscape through rose tinted glasses only because you never experienced the sheer amount of witch hunting lol
@@sharkenjoyer rose-tinted? I was a child, this culture was vile to be surrounded by. Both existed at the same time, cringe and "this is just art" edgelord defense. They just kept their distance most of the time.
55:06 Every time I see this sentiment expressed I think of the CJ the X quote that sums it up pretty well: "Profit isn't value. Value is value. Don't let them convince you they're the same thing." You are not "giving the people what they want." You're essentially tricking them into clicking on a video and then tricking them into watching that video all the way through. That's what advertising is. The fact that Jimmy talks like Jeff Bezos probably should've clued people in a lot sooner.
People keep saying on SunnyV2’s video that “they own him a apology” that BS but I think we really owe Rosanna Pansino a big apology she called mr beast out for some of this a long time ago and we ignored her.
Girl you don't have Bald and Gay 3 yet? Somebody buy this man bg3 right now Great video, as always. I also liked the guest appearance of the washing machine, very calm and charming personality On a more serious note: It is bizarre to me that people swat torture allegations (or whatever you wanna call it) by saying "you agreed to it AND you're getting paid by it, you can't complain", as if money was this completely optional side feature of human existence that you can opt in and out of at a whim. The sheltered life these people must live to not understand financial pressure and basic concepts of coercion is WILD. Me when I'd rather engage in some recreational victim blaming instead of wondering whether the squid games irl should be a legal thing to host
2016 was absolute garbage, I'd rate 2012 as the last point I thought "those were the times". Mostly because at least everyone's cool personal sites were still around. 2019 does get a shout out for looking at what everyone was joking about was gonna be the next disaster and going "BET" and making our shitty memes real (wildfire: predicted. then we joked about a zombie epidemic and got the 'rona and everyone kinda got scared of meming a new disaster)
the thing people don’t get about the “they chose to do this challenge, they shouldn’t complain” argument is that most people don’t realize HOW SEVERE what they’re choosing to do is. most of the people criticizing people like jake weddle and saying “they chose this,” likewise don’t realize the severity. like, we all know solitary confinement is bad. there’s a reason it’s used to punish people who are already serving a criminal sentence. but i don’t think many people appreciate the way that it can cause permanent psychological damage in mere days. the idea of ANYONE doing a month of solitary is fucking insane, and i don’t think many people fully realize that. and being asked to run a marathon on top of that???? professional runners train for weeks, if not months, for marathons- and it’s still utterly exhausting. again, i don’t think there’s a widespread awareness of how grueling it is. like, there’s a very good reason why the namesake of the “marathon” fucking DIED at the end of his run.
It's not only that, jake weddle, just like the other contestants on beast games. They didn't sign up for the fck up shit, there was no warning, in fact they told Jake it was gonna be a vacation, made everything sound great and then what? Just like the beast games contestants not knowing they'll be filming at night fcking their nocturnal clock and not knowing there will be 2000 instead of 1000 people. In the first place, challenges like with jake are handled with huge interview and psyche evaluation in bigger shows like survivor. Wtf would they choose the most extroverted and someone coming off seemingly with past mental health problems into this crap, especially when they let the other talents fake videos. Why not this as well?
The Worst of All Possible Worlds podcast has a great episode, "Who's Afraid of Mr. Beast," covering him from somewhere over a year ago iirc. One of the things they mention is that his channel's success is partly because he has been focused on gaming the algorithm pretty much from the jump. It's almost an obsession. This video and that episode pair extremely well, because they synthesize in a really interesting way.
So tired of the attack on the lgbtqia+ community, especially in the last few years. Me and my partner are just trying to get our kid through high school and it's sad to see how hostile everything is getting now
I wish the best for you, your partner, and your kid. I truly do. I also feel the increasing hostility and it has made me want to disconnect from pretty much everything social. Take lots of care.
Which the guy could voluntarily leave at any second. With running water, a makeshift shower and toilet facilities. With access to sunlight. With mountains and mountains of varied food & drink and a grocery store full of potential mental stimuli.
He could've done more nefarious things yea, like creating PragerU and funding that girl's channel so she can go and defend all the billionaires that did nefarious things.
@@MrTVintro Have you ever heard that solitary confinement is literally torture? Not interacting or even seeing other humans causes intense psychological damage. Just because someone isn't literally starving to death does not mean they're not experiencing inhumane conditions.
I still have no idea who Moist Critikal is beyond a white cishet dude who has dumb opinions he shares in incredibly stupid fashion, and someone who has too many internet handles. why do any of us care what he has to say, if not merely as a control?
Pretty wild to see Shoe on the list of Shad defenders when she's been trying to make a niche for herself as UA-cam's greatest anti-grooming warrior (who completely ignores all of the many, many scandals involving Republicans and churches).
Not to defend Shoe here, but (anecdotally) I’m pretty sure I saw her in the chat of a ChudLogic stream about the Shadman situation (don’t ask me why I was watching I have no idea). I also think she was making fun of Shadman in the chat, but I’m not so sure on that one.
@@BunnyBoyMcGill Shoe is extremely sus for so many reasons. I used to love her but it annoys me how whenever she gets caught doing something that goes against her beliefs she acts like that thing was just a silly misunderstanding. Like, girl, you have to be incompetent or malicious to have this many oopsies. Pick ONE.
@@CanIswearinmyhandleI haven't through about that movie since 2020 I watched it bc I thought it fair to, you know, do that before screaming my head off when Netflix has a known history of sensationalist mismarketing (see also: _Q-Force_ discourse) and it was a coming of age story from the perspective of a child caught between two cultures with conflicting ideas of growing up. A typical French art house film that would have gone unnoticed if not for the shitty picture they used in the US for ads versus the one in France. People can think the way the director went about it was incorrect but personally, I'm gonna assume there was something more than just titillation as to why the Black Muslim Algerian woman director was telling this story. 🤷♀️ (Also, of the very few close up shots of the bodies, doubles of legal women were used and there were therapists on set for the kids as needed. Even in the movie itself, this stuff was not depicted to be positive by normal people)
@@KariIzumi1 The right wanted a good hysterical reason to cancel Netflix and the left took the pedo outragebait angle they peddled on Twitter and went just as batshit with it, because performing not being a pedo is imperative so that people don't think you're a pedo, I guess. The movie is a meme now. Watching it = allegations. Talking about it = you should be on a list. So how would anyone ever know it's a kinda boring arthouse movie vaguely about growing up in the TikTok generation?
the most frustrating thing about people transgender, is that on the occasion that another transgender person you have zero affiliation with does something actually shitty, people who were already looking for an excuse to attack trans people as a group will find a few cherry-picked examples and go "SEE WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!". Imagine if this was done to any other group of people. Imagine if any time a Christian talked about their faith and identity, everyone immediately went "OH so you must be a pedophile, right? I mean look at all these Church sex scandals", and the thing is even considering faith leaders are over-represented in those cases, kinda fucked up to collectively punish a group of people based on the actions of folks who share one thing in common and zero affiliation. we do not have the benefit of being seen as individual people, only a monolith. doesn't matter that there are millions of us around the world, doesn't matter when cis people abuse trans people, or when trans people abuse other trans people for that matter. what people want is their biases confirmed, and trans people being like other people, means some of us do horrific things. we can call it out and avoid abusers, ask for accountability, etc. but once you make this about the abuser's identity, you are doing a disservice to the victims, because it was never about them for you, it was about grabbing ammunition to defend your bigotry.
this we should not use trans people who happen to be bad people as a way to be transphobic, or any minority for that matter. plus there are many trans people who aren't bad people
It's surprising what you don't notice when 80% of your attention is on your phone, and not the video - which is how I assume his audience "watches" his videos.
Skutch makes a thumbnail for F.D. Signifier: "A.I. art!?! I'm so disappointed in you." Skutch makes a thumbnail for Jack Saint: "🦗🎶" Edit: Skutch's art is amazing btw! Don't want people to get mixed up about my intentions. Just asking people to question biases and maybe read descriptions and pinned comments before commenting.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Definetly seems like the proportion of those comments to other comments is higher when the creator the thumbnail is made for is a black person. The black creators on this platform tend to be held to a higher standard I've noticed. White creators are more likely to be extended grace and either assumed to have worked with and paid someone or it goes unnoticed when A.I. is used. These are just my observations, but it's kinda a trend you can notice if you pay attention. Like the black creators who tend to get successful are more likely to have a college education and degree than their white counterparts, almost like it's needed to become successful as a black creator when a large part of the available audience is white.
Did not think it was AI when I saw it on F.D.'s video, also didn't know the same artist did both thumbnails! Now that you've said it though, I can see the similarities.
What people seem to not understand is that he was holding the prospect of a better future, the pursuit of happiness, over people's heads... there is no greater form of control than to hold someone's own future hostage. I don't think most people understand that money IS that exact thing, and we've tricked ourselves for generations that capitalism isn't form of control that drives technological progression and furthers the roots of exploitation that underpin the system.
I start to feel good about having no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about and then I realize that they are PROFOUNDLY WEALTHY because they are ASTRONOMICALLY POPULAR and then I shrivel into a compacted bit of detritus and cease to exist.
I love having my feed be bombarded with drama about the same person for months, but only finding out what's actually going on when Jack Saint talks about.
I loved Oneyplays but since DingDong and Julian left, it isn't for me, especially after Chris' statements on Shad. If you were made aware your friend drew nsfw of REAL LIFE KIDS why are you not stepping back and saying that's indefensible and messed up? I tried calling it out at the time too but I got dragged as well. I believe Julian specifically said he did not like Shad and that's one of the reasons I really liked DingDong and Julian. I have no idea why people like Shad were so normalized back then.
Oney can be a very funny guy, but I never thought of him as someone who really had a lot of perspective on things, DingDong and Julian are a lot more grounded (And as much as Tomar and the others are funny, I think DD and J brought some balance.), He wasn't the only one either, the whole culture around Shad was so weird, I used to think it was just the L*lis, but he drew plenty of other shit, and it blows my mind anyone tried to defend it as an "edgy" humor even then. I'm glad internet is a bit past that, but history will probably repeat itself.
@@nachoqt I didn't really keep up with his art and I agree Oney made weird stuff but Shad is a whole different beast. He drew NSFW of his own mother. 💀
I used to like Sunnyv2s content, the I realised what it really is when he put up the Redemption of Logan Paul video which was overwhelmingly positive, didn’t even address half the controversies and Sunny released the video during the cyptozoo controversy
I always wonder if Jack's awesome Mum will get asked her opinion on something again in a JS video. Jack's Mum's appearances are rad; they have a nice vibe together. But some topics I'm like "I'd rather Jack's Mum doesn't know this exists...". This is one of them. Protect her peace of mind.
Can't wait for the day when people have this realization about every celebrity that's ever existed. You can't get to the top of any hierarchy without standing on the bodies of the people you've defeated.
I love your channel Jack, but as a trans person, I'm gonna have to pass on this one. Just hearing Sunny's video by itself is depressing as hell and the fact that so many people are just chill with that does not do great things for my mental health. Still liking though.
I wish more UA-camrs could be like Shaun, where they talk about all this awful stuff without feeling the need to show you clip after clip of it. It makes it harder to watch this type of content when it also means listening to soundbites of Shapiro, Walsh et al
oh jesus christ seeing that last content warning one just gave me a fight or flight, please tell me that won't be prominently featured in the vide- aw, fuck...
The shit with shadman trips me the fuck out even to this day Insane how many creators were okay with him even after he drew CP of the literal child from logan
@@tinoesroho I dunno about the logan child cp thing but he drew Keemstar's 8 years old in notsee lewd, and he also drew porn of that lady who was kidnapped in an elevator, went missing, and the video of her kidnapping went twitter viral. And that's just what I was exposed to against my will that I know of that was WHAT THE FUCK.
Tbf, I think a lot of the creators on the “list” have said they didn’t know the extent of what Shad did and just knew of him as a meme figure or whatever. Like interacting with his non-child porn art like once isn’t indicative of them co-signing everything that he did. The r/youtubedrama list is just kind of that though, a list of everyone who ever associated with him in any capacity.
@@Kallgon yeah I wish it went into to detail of the range people were associated with like oneyplays was actually friends and defend him, while others were actively dismissing him. But a large most were just "Hey look controversial boogeyman guy let's make a joke about him" in general that was still a bad thing alot of people did I wish they didn't give an actual pdf a platform
Everyone saying Sunny was right but not mentioning the allegations that actually got Tyson cancelled instead of what Sunny was throwing up really rubs me the wrong way. Like they don't actually care what Tyson did, just that they did something bad, which fuels their hate. They couldn't care less.
Accusing the people calling out the people filming themselves doing good things of virtue signaling is such clear DARVO. Kavernacle has said it for ages. The masses need to catch up.
Meh, Kavernacle is insufferable at times with their clearly devoid of contextual knowledge at times. It's lazy. There's already way too much of that content.
@@OryxAUHis childish opinions on the Tv Show Mr Robot made it hard for me to take him as seriously, but that's a personal bias I have against people with bad media analysis skills
@@maybemablemaples2144 Kav is 50/50 on good takes. Heart's in the right place, the ethics and morals are consistent, but god does he talk out of his ass when he goes outside his wheelhouse. The only reason I'm still positive toward him is that despite his sometimes TORTUROUS media illiteracy on his analyses, he's still checking out as staying true to his stances and hasn't done any hypocrisy there that I've seen. But god, his take on cyberpunk alone had me wondering what the fuck he watches to get the conclusions he got. Not to watch for media analysis that's for sure.
Bill Maher: "You have a problem with an influencer trying to change the world for the better? How pathetic." Also Bill Maher: *jokes about a travel vlog couple being murdered and how its not a real job*
Did . . . did the title change without me reloading? I'm 40 minutes in and I'd swear the video was called something like "An Apology Video" instead of "The Collapse of Mr Beast". Yeah, it was! The tab's title is still the same! I'm not crazy. I'M NOT CRAZY.
fucking finally, someone seeing through the sunnyv2 shit. i'm sick to death of people backtracking and praising the guy for somehow "predicting" the entire situation when the issue he spoke of was entirely different from the actual allegations.
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I'm glad watching Total Drama as a kid convinced me not to take part in or watch reality shows.
I watched that too! IMO, it was the show "I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here!" that family forced me to watch sometimes, that REALLY exposed the truth of how cruel and disgusting these game shows could be!
That show was seriously underrated. Taught us a lot tbh.
Total drama island? Ive started rewatching it recently
What a coincidance
Nice Hilda pfp btw
“Alriiiight campers! Today’s challenge is to survive one Mr Beast video! Anyone who fails to live will be eliminated.”
its so disturbing how performative a lot of peoples concerns about childrens safety online is. its easy to call a stranger a pedo, but a lot of people refuse to reckon with the facts when their friends are the ones posing a threat to minors.
I think the worst is that situations like these aren't used to raise real awareness for the lack of child safety provided by the parents and social media platforms and instead primarely used to target completely unrelated groups of people.
I've never seen anything comperable to the outrage at trans, gay, black people and co. get when a white person does the exact same thing.
That the actual safety of our children or exploitation of others by people in power is a side event to anti-human culture war bs.
it's perhaps the most performative concern out there. if they really cared about protecting kids from predators they'd be advocating for teaching proper sex ed, teaching about consent and how predators are very often people they are related to, etc etc. I could go on. but you never see the "shoot your neighborhood pedo" brigade talking about these things.
Precisely. The biggest threat to children being abused is a family member. This has remained the conclusion of studies for decades upon decades.
Reminds me of my grandma claiming haitian and cuban immigrants were all just a bunch of r*pists for literally no reason other than racism but when her husband was caught with a 10yo she completely denied it, defended him and called everyone a liar
just goes to show many people don't care about children at all and are only willing to call minorities pedos
It's a triple whammy. LGBT people get harassed, threatened, and attacked over this shit, actual abuse is reported less and less often, and abuse victims get to agonize over whether their experiences will be taken seriously at all, used as an excuse to spread xenophobia, or taken as an attempt to start another witch hunt. Nobody wins...except for abusers and fascists, anyway.
i love the fact that people are like jUST DOn'T paRTICipATe, when Jimmy literally owns/owned the houses that his staff lived in, the health insurance for his staff, etc. That much power over someone and people still defend his treatment of these people...
Wouldn't be surprised if we hear about Beastlandia soon.
If I was really racist to a black person online and said they were a menace, and then it turned out that black person had actually done bad things, that wouldn’t then vindicate my racism lmao.
I don't know, if enough time passed for people to forget specifics they might.
You’d be shocked how many people would somehow disagree with this
@@somedudewatchintv52971) not how that works, forgetting racism doesn't make it go away
2) the court of pubic opinion is not the arbiter of truth you think it is
@carlostaffanelly418 i dont think he disagrees with your point, i think hes just trying to show how other people think with an ironic point
No, but 1350
Thank heavens someone said this ab SunnyV2.. the praising of him has been wild for no conceivable reason
He's only been praised by the dumb kids who watch his terrible content.
I hate Sunny, and he shouldn’t be given any credit.
His Сhrіs Tyson video was bаsed though. Maybe it was the wrоng working-оut, but the right sоlution
@@alexbennet4195 no it wasn’t, the guy was being transphobic the entire time.
@@nman551 he was right though. Сhrіs Tyson had been a crееру sех-pеst wеirdo оnline for a long time, and “coming out as a trans wоmаn”/an almost archetypical mаle fеtіshіst was not in fact contradictory to that, but раrt of it. So if people were getting ranсіd vibes from him even before they knew the full ехtent of his behaviour, they were right
49:29 it is crazyyy that people think that signing a contract means that it is acceptable to treat people however you want. You cannot be a slave because you signed a contract saying you wouldn't get any money
People keep repeating this. Jake has never claimed this!
He got paid exactly what was agreed on for the video.
@@MrTVintro jimmy should have paid for his medical expenses and trauma therapy.
Also you don't know what is said explicitly in the contract. This isn't just a normal contest production. There's some hocus pocus in the bg.
Too many people think legal = moral
Besides, capitalism has plenty of other ways to make someone a slave, be it prison or debt.
39:53 I think the wildest thing about this bit, is its exactly what the show Squid Game was ALSO about- about the way these contestants were very much willing to go through the game because an amount of money a rich guy can afford to portion off to a show each year isn't much for him, but it sure it means literally and metaphorically their lives to the contestants
they literally get to leave after the first game once the threat of death is established and like 3/4 of them voluntarily come back because the imminent threat of death in the games is still better than the certainty of it outside due to having no money
but you know it's a critique of communism because the north korean said south korea (famously communist country) was supposed to be better than this
@misirtere9836 based aradia
Jimmy recreating Squid Game not realizing the actual show was already about him.
Life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates Mr Best
@@misirtere9836 no its not
i'm old, i was never in beast's potential audience, i don't want to do the whole "obviously this guy was bad, i knew he was bad because i didn't care about him for other reasons" schtick ... but man, saying "this guy gives me bad vibes" three years ago or whatever was the easiest called shot for anybody online. yeah, no shit a guy throwing a bunch of money around, jerking himself off about how philanthropic he is in africa, cultivating an army of child fans, etc., turned out to be a scumbag, and it's baffling that anybody (any adult, anyway) would be surprised by this
Exactly how I’ve felt the past three years. Just never liked the vibe.
I had roommates who became obsessed with Mr Beast videos as their “reality TV trash” as their lives were kinda falling apart and they got really into the videos. So, no one is immune to this kind of content I suppose.
Anyone who exploits kids for money is a bad guy.
Watched one video for 10 min years ago. Felt like I was watching a 3 card monty hustle from the vibe alone.
@@Jakeurb8ty82 Felt like I was watching one of those "IT'S JUST A JOKE BRO!!!!" asshole prank channels that tried to pretend to be good by throwing money at the homeless, so I get the general vibe, 3 card monty hustle is also very very accurate.
I had that thought while watching Bill Maher and other adults do the "But he does such good charity work" thing. Surely you don't really buy that? Surely you know that performative philanthropy is a red flag? RIGHT??
I resent the whole “he’s the only rich person actually doing good things” Dolly Parton is right fucking there, how dare you
That's a women so people don't wanna treat her like Mr.Beast
I think all rich people should have their money taken away except her because she knows what to do with it and I think she might be the only person who does
Mark and Jack holding numerous charity streams
Babish giving money to No-Kid-Hungry with sponsors
"Wtf dude?"
there has been many rich people who have done good things
@@stupidmangoz Didn't Babish promote that fucking Hogwarts game?
I'm sorry, did SunnyV2 just say that Ava Tyson transitioned for diversity points for Mr. Beast? Hello? What? Why? How?
because only good things happen when people publicly transition. No harassment at all.
Mr. Beast is VERY persuasive (I'm obviously joking).
But also shes ruining his brand and destroying her relationship with him by doing so. Sunny spun that shit a million different ways
He just screenshots comments from the dumbest, bigoted kids online and then edits them together and reads them aloud like he's documenting something.
He's a lazy slop content creator, coherency is not a requirement, his audience of dumb kids just enjoy hearing bigoted things and internet drama.
one thing people are always doing, as you know, is to constantly try to get diversity points with their rich friends. it's like one of our favorite things to do, you see, to drastically change our lives so that our friends see us as "diverse" in some way. a fundamentally human behavior imo
Please never put Bill Maher on my screen ever again. Thank you.
Same take as charlie
good lord i got brain damage from hearing his voice
Same with pegasus
that part was strangely cathartic for me. like so many dumb shits have argued with me before about how mr beast doesn't deserve criticism and look at all the poors he's helping how generous etc. etc. and, would you look at that! this opinion is also held by noted gobshite bill maher. good to know this braindead analysis was _also_ shared by _very rich and influential_ dumbasses, too, and not just the garden-variety idiots i waste my time engaging with online. it was a sort of vindication-for if your thoughts on a subject align with those of _bill maher,_ it usually indicates that you screwed up somewhere and need to go back to the drawing board. i only wish i knew at the time that it was a Maher Opinion; would have saved me a lot of time if i'd just told them to fuck off instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I'd like to not see Charlie's face on my screen again
I never looked fondly upon MrBeast for "building water wells". In university, there were always students participating in medical voluntourism. Theyd fundraise a couple thousands of dollars to fund their stupid trip to a poor nation to help build a water well. Sounds great right? No. Theyre not qualified whatsoever. All they did was make themselves feel better and to add to their application so they can get into med schools. (Except it actually hurts their chances at decent schools...)
Their wells were never sustainable. Their schools were never sustainable. They dont get used by locals, they take away from the local economy, and these kids pat themselves on the back. Some of them actually end up killing locals because they pretend to be doctors.
He built a couple wells, cool, will they be used 5 years from now?
They didn't show anyone maintainence, many of the wells have failed since being built.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Feel free to cite that claim. Especially since most of the African centered charity work was handled by local partners. Its not like the crew just hired a drill and yolo'd a well into existence and left.
Out of curiosity, why would adding that to their applications hurt their chances at a decent school?
@@edwardnygma8533 probably because decent schools know what that type of people are since i recon they have met quite a few people who try to look better by having that on their cv
It feels like everything is so screwed up, I just wonder, what are people supposed to do to help? Just give funding and donations? Because that... Doesn't feel like it'd help.
It’s kind of funny (but mostly exhausting) how former Mr. Beast fans get so angry when people rightfully criticized him before he was cancelled because they don’t want to confront the fact that hey, maybe it is weird to exploit the needy, even if you do help them.
Yup, that was always the reaction I got
RIGHT like, in any other capacity, if you see someone try and go up to a homeless person and tell them "If you do a little dance for me right now, I will give you lots of money." we all rightfully call that weird and unethical. But when this guy does essentially that but films it for his online audience of millions upon millions, suddenly it's okay and he is a true hero. Never understood the admiration.
Anyone who claims they can "cure" a person's blindness or deafness is full of shit and should never be believed again.
@@MrMarxy
Something something oppa homeless style
@@randomjunkohyeah1 LMAO yaass
If you ever feel the need to defend the existence of ultra rich people keep in mind that every single day they go through life knowing they have enough money to change many many many lives for better but they don't.
Oh, they change many lives for the worse.
I was about to say the same thing. The problem is that they _do_ change many lives. It's usually for the worse.
Well, why does it matter which side I am going to support regardless of which side I'm on
This is similar to a political party exclaiming the other side to be wrong just *because* they belongs to the opposite group.
Are billionaires and rich peeps obliged? And if I speak against a bad faith argument, then does it matter which side benefits from it?
@vibhav6551 What dafuq are you trying to say here? Are you unironically trying to apply Centrist brainrot to class division? Because if the only reason you can think of that people don't like the wealthy is because they're not wealthy themselves, you really don't have any understanding of what you're talking about. People have y'know, actual reasons to sympathize with or be against political groups, especially when one group upholds a system that benefits them at the expense of everyone else.
@Uhhhhhhhhhhh6 which is all due fair, I'm haven't even said anything against the person here, nor am I commenting on individualism
My sole issue is with the argument that "you are wrong because you side with the rich." To boil that down my argument to 'centralist idea' feel bad faith, but I won't indulge in that area
I come here to disagree against the claims of the commentor above, which holds this certain structure of downplaying the arguments simply because of the side which it benefits
The wells were defective. Each country spoke out to say that he was doing it too quickly and didn't do enough research also lunchables has a pretty decent contract with the department of education for certain areas and I'm pretty sure that mrbeast would rather have that contract considering he's lining himself up as a direct competitor
They also didn't show/provide maintainence.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 They partenered with local charities for the well building. Unless you have any info we don't we can reasonably assume they handle maintenance.
Edit: the campaign website actually specifically mentions maintenance by local charities.
Feel free to cite a single example of a defective well.
@@MrTVintro Hey buddy. MrBeast aint gonna pay you. Get a hobby
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 My hobby is correcting confidently incorrect chuds on the internet
The whole Ava Kris Tyson thing still leaves a knot in my belly. Ava was, and maybe still is, a weirdo who probably shouldn't have gone unchecked considering she was platformed by a creator who's main audience is children. But it's so abundantly clear that the whole 'evidence gathering' was not borne from consideration and clarity, but because Ava came out as trans and they wanted the dirt. Even at the expense of, by their own narrative, 'a victim'.
Another UA-camr put it well, “if you think anything Ava did has to do with her being trans, then wisdom is chasing you, but you are faster”
Fr. Immediately after everything got exposed Sunny's comments were flooded with people saying shit like "They hated him because he told the truth," and I was sitting here like what truth? At best bro was speculating about Jimmy losing views/subscribers because his preteen to young-adult following wouldn't like seeing a trans person on screen, which his chronically online ass *knew* (or at least should know) would never happen. If they don't care about the shit the Pauls have done there's zero chance they'll care about Ava being trans.
I will genuinely never understand why or how they've twisted his transphobic bs into something to pat him on the back for because the way it stands there's only two ways to interpret it; A) He did zero extra research and purely upon hearing Ava is trans decided to make a video acting like Jimmy and his friends are cartoon characters that should push her aside purely because it's "not good for branding," which is already a bad option by itself or B) even worse he *did* do extra research, discovered the pdf shit by himself a full year before anyone else, popped this hate boner for Ava and decided to make his video purely for clicks *but* actively avoided warning anyone about a pdf file being best friends with and working for one of the biggest kid's content youtubers on the site because it might've put even bigger damper on his numbers. Either way you cut it, dude is a piece of shit and there is absolutely no reason for people to praise him lmao.
@@erroneousfax9351yeah damn right
@@erroneousfax9351I made the horrible mistake of replying to some of those comments and arguing with the dumb kids who watch Sunny's content and they were literally giddy at what they perceived to be vindication for Sunny because their logic was that since the conclusion was technically correct two years later for completely different reasons.
I was a real world example of that Bill Murray quote about arguing with a stupid person.
its always the same with those people: they act like they care but really all they want is vindication for being terrible
There are no good billionaires, although some are worse than others.
Charles Feeny was one of the better ones, who in 1986, realized he had far more money than he could ever spend and took the majority of his then $6 Billion to put into a fund to give away...the last of that money he gave away in 2020 and still had enough money to live in a Victorian era townhouse in San Francisco before passing away in '22.
I could use more billionaires doing that, or better yet, having the government tax the shit outta of everything over $100 million, which is still an obscene amount of wealth to go through in one lifetime and make them pay their fair share.
Big facts dunno how kids (I'm not even 30) can be so naive as to think the single biggest corporate entity on YT and one of the top 500 global (especially for Jimmy's age and generation) business people has any sort of interest in fair practice and "giving back." They ruthlessly got to where they are, and stay there, for a reason. The more someone screams in your face that they're doing this for a good cause, "love giving stuff away," that they are DEFINITELY an ethical autocrat.. I've never watched and am totally not surprised, how are there unironic glazers--youll find them in this comments section even--that Jimmy dindu nuffin, and if he did, it wasn't that bad; you jelly, you mad, DRINK PRIME™ etc.
What a coincidence that someone who exploited every loopho-- well, it's not a loophole, YT is just a corporate oligarchy that doesn't actually have consumer protection-- *WHAT A COINCIDENCE* that a scumbag used to pulling every dirty, greasy edge possible to skim extra bucks and make the most "exciting content" immediately runs into FCC-esque adjacent problems when they have to deal with real (well, realer than YT which is just exceptionalism while pretending to care) work and safety standards
Carnegie was probably the only good billionaire that Im aware of.
You don't accrue that amount of wealth by "working hard" and "being diligent", no you get there by being evil.
@@jshowao maybe take another look.
bro the guy who said 'you can't complain about a bad work environment because you chose to took the money'....... we're fucking cooked as a society dude. i didn't even think it was possible to get boot so far down your throat.
you have to stay quiet in the name of freedom
people acting like sunnyV2 saw this all coming when his entire argument was just "trans people le bad" is extremely annoying
Right, never mind the four non-trans people who were also revealed to be sickos in this situation
@@larissabrglum3856its almost like the controversy was never about the children in the first place to them
and when ava tyson was actually called out for something mr beast was there playing along or ignoring her antics whilst his video held mr beast to a "can do no wrong" standard, he basically predicted nothing, just expected being trans was enough to cause career ending controversies when he was the one starting the controversy
You got funny number likes now
for someone so transphobic and conservative, the meatr-
"If you are bisexual, you should not talk to children."
Saying you think sexuality influences whether or not you can talk to children says a lot about you.
Primarily, it says that you are not safe to have around children.
What even is that about? I mean hetero people raise kids of the opposite gender than themselves all of the time. What does being attracted to more than one gender have to do with being an adult raising children? Most adult people are not attracted to children in a sexual way, regardless of what gender or genders they are attracted to. Being straight or bisexual has nothing to do with attraction to minors. And any parent who struggles with being sexually attracted to their own children needs serious help and probably shouldn't be alone with their own children or any children.
Being bisexual or pansexual doesn't turn someone into a sex crazed animal that wants to screw everyone they meet.
To be at all consistent with their theories, they should be just as concerned that if you're straight you shouldn't be alone around children of the opposite gender as you might abuse them if you're attracted to the gender they happen to be. At least by their twisted logic.
If that was a valid concern, then I guess the only safe people to be raising children are the asexuals.
Somehow, I doubt these anti LGBTQ + bigots would be for that either, considering aces are part of the LGBTQ + community.
I've heard this argument when i was stuck around conservative christians. I genuinely had to explain to the guy that being gay doesn't mean you feel the uncontrollable urge to rape all men/boys in sight. They don't see bi/homosexuality as equivalent to heterosexuality
An actual self-snitch mindset lol
Fr, do we need to keep that guy away from little girls? Or does he just think of seggsy stuff when he thinks of queer people?
Damn, guess I, a straight man, may no longer talk to my younger sister 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is so real.
People victim blaming Jack Weddle are insane man, imagine being mistreated and tortured at your work whatever that job is and everyone be like "oh this is your fault, you can just quit at any moment also you should not take your paycheck to keep your creditbility if you quit."
He. Got. Paid. Exactly. What. Was. Agreed. On.
@@MrTVintro wow no empathy
@@MrTVintroyou have a job that pays you presumably. Now. Imagine your employer owns your house and healthcare. If you quit you loose everything yea?
Now he tells you that instead of just stacking boxes you now have to do so and transport them without a forklift and also maybe you don't get your salary if you're slower than your coworker.
You've got some super great options in this situation have you not? Now also add peer pressure and actual real life fear of loosing everything you have into the mix.
@MrTVintro yeah, but what he agreed to, wasn't the thing that happened
@@pocketglove By all means be specific
Thing is, had you called MrBeast a shithead in the previous videos you bring up, you'd have been raged at by the same people who say your comments aged like milk now. You can never be correct
Yeah, this. A UA-camr I watch has been calling out Mr beast for years and every single time he would be dogpiled by beast fans. After everything started unfolding it was quite vindicating to see everyone reassess his videos from three years ago calling out the exploitation.
@@ryanstardust_ The Kavernacle or a different one?
@@Patashu Kav
@@ryanstardust_ gotta be the most vindicated youtuber lol
@@Patashu absolutely. He stayed true to his core beliefs, applied them to someone who, underneath the glamorisation, was just another rich person and was proven right when they did exactly what other rich people do. I think there's a good message there to be a little more skeptical of content we consume online, even if the person seems like the exception to the rule.
I never liked mr beast cause his charity work always made me feel icky. Like I know you have to fund it somehow, but filming people and making them humiliate themselves??? Always made me feel weird. And I don’t feel like you deserve a round of applause if ur mega rich and you give to charity. Like, it’s nice and good, but if you’re mega rich, you SHOULD be doing that. When it’s someone’s whole brand that they’re charitable (literally a brand) it’s just inevitable something gross is going on.
I think it's a mistake to think of it as charity at all. If giving things away is part of your business model, which it absolutely is in the case of Mr Beast, then it's not charity. It's a business expense.
@@wendyheatherwood yea you said this way better than I can coney - it always felt so gross cause it’s like, why is everyone praising him it’s what he’s decided his brand is !
@@wendyheatherwood it always felt gross when people do charity, for money
charity is supposed to be giving up part of your wealth to people who need it more or to make your community a better place. If you're giving away money and through that make all your money back AND THEN SOME. You're not doing charity, you're profiting off vulnerable people.
I've done a lot of volunteer work in my life and came close to becoming a social worker and it was so obvious to me that MrBeast's content isn't what actually helping people looks like
I don't get this argument he isn't (or wasn't at least for most of the time) mega rich. Up until Feastables became a success his net worth probably dipped into the negative some months.
I also still don't really get how "humiliate themselves" applies. When we go back to the original giveaway video he literally just hands the homeless guy the money, asks him about his life (not gonna deny its a slightly awkward "interview" but you try doing better) and they take him out to dinner and that's the video.
Skip ahead a few videos to giving pizza delivery people money. Same thing, here's your money, a little bit of talking, and that's it.
3 mil pennies for 3 mil subscriber, same shit.
Ridiculous tips for waiters, same shit, hell in that one they mostly don't even talk with the waiter after they give the tip.
Tipping waitresses gold bars, playstations etc. Same shit.
Like, we're literally talking the absolutele highest chance of humiliating someone because its unexpected, in public, to people who are not likely to not have a lot of money so you can make them act out....
And they don't. They have respectful if sometimes awkward conversations and they leave.
Show me the humiliation.
That time they hired a bank building and gave out free money? Same. Exact. Shit.
Money, respectful if awkward conversation, the end. They had a few people where they had them participate in a short skit as if they were legit applying for a loan or taking out money from the bank but is that humiliating people?
Show me the humiliation. Please.
“Everyone hates their job” is something my father says to me as genuine advice. I don’t hate him for it, I know he’s just trying to help me through this life, but sometimes I just want him to understand that living under constant fear of labor exploitation isn’t a good mental space to be in for what I understand to be a large majority of your life. You only get one life, and as you get older, you’ll slowly lose opportunities to experience certain aspects of life to its fullest due to health issues. Isn’t it at least a little concerning that most of the common man’s life will be taken up by exploitative labor?
Everyone has to work, and work isn't fun. Not saying reform isn't needed or anything, but work is always going to be part of human life.
I feel there are two entirely different contexts to this
1. There's "hating your job" because it's genuinely abusive. Most people don't do that.
2. there's "hating your job" because inevitably there will be times when you feel angry and frustrated at something you do every day, no matter what it is, even something you love. A few people do that.
3. there's the idea that you'd rather be someplace else doing something different, but you just gotta stick with your current lot for awhile and get through it. Universally everyone does this.
Thinking that the "right" job for you is one where you want to be there 100% of the time is delusional.
I love programming. I also love anime.
I don't "hate" my job. But I'd rather watch animes than be at work.
No, that's not a bad attitude to have in life.
I'll do my job, then go watch some animes.
If I had a job in the anime industry, I'd be counting the minutes until I can get back to that GitHub project I know I can get working in just a few more clicks...
@@pordawgWork is always going to be a part of life, but there's a difference between exploitative, abusive work where you're not paid enough to live on and treated badly, VS. work that is necessary but fulfilling. A world where we can work together and provide for ourselves and communities WITHOUT being treated like shit is possible.
The one thing rich people have over the poor, is that they generally don't expect their children to live like a slave just because they did, and actually make sure their children will always be taken care of whereas most poor families try to push you out of their hair and responsibility as soon as possible.
The ava tyson situation infuriates me mainly because i knew the transphobes would glom onto the one trans person that could be verified as a predator and act like that made them right all along as if one trans person happening to be a piece of shit, starting before she even transitioned, is at all statisically significant against the multitude of non lgbt celebrities and the like with grooming scandals
What irritates me is the only reason they're coming for her is because she's trans. Look at the energy they have for Dr. Disrespect. He quite literally admitted it and they're all coming to defend him. I've even seen dudes "congratulate" him for getting someone so young :(
I'm tired of this world.
So much a case of "if you f--s really want equality, you'll hold her accountable just like him" and meanwhile they attack only her and defend every guy accused
Mfs be like "Ava's son no longer has a father figure to look up to" as if Ava would have been a good role model before the transition
@@fawnieeefor an even better comparison, Colleen Ballinger did nearly identical stuff and it took for years for Adam McIntyre to be believed…because Colleen is a cis woman.
@fawnieee you don't even need to move past this story to find an example of this. Mr Beast quite literally participated in the predatory behaviour whit Ava too. As Jack said, he quite literally interacted within the discord server where Ava was inapropriate with minors in too.
Mr Beast also interacted with shadman. The drawing Ava bought from shadman was hanged in the room where Mr Beast slept in for a long while. Mr Beast hired know predators. But most of the people who went after Ava didn't share the same energy to go after him when all this also implicated him too.
Now don't get me wrong, Ava doesn't deserve a platform after what she has done. But I think this instance has shown that most of the people who went after her didn't really care about protecting any one and just saw a convinient way to attack a trans person.
If it really is just about protecting children, then taking down Mr Beast should have been part of the goal too.
I'm a truck driver and the lack of understanding of coercion is what keeps this industry afloat. People don't understand it because it's kinda like phishing. "I'm too >insert adjective< to be coerced"
[it's always sunny in philadelphia voice] because of the implication
Yup. That would never happen to me. I would definitely be on the side of the millionaires and not the ahh ahh stain they wipe off their boot. Type of delulu.
similarly, a lot of the people who say they could never be talked into joining a cult are actually the easiest to talk into joining a cult
@@tinoesroho Except there is no implication. You decide you've had enough? Great, you get paid whatever days you've been in the room. Which likely adds up to more than a few monthly wages earned in just a few days.
There is no implication that if you don't keep participating that you'll be fired from a job because it isn't a job.
@MrTVintro it was just a fucking reference
The cynical side of me thinks that had Tyson not transitioned, no one would have cared about whatever weird shit she was getting into. It would have been swept under the rug ala Dr. Disrespect (whom I personally believe would have gone to meet up with that minor had he not been caught so early in the process of setting it up).
Oh you hate money? but you actually have money? completely owned
God the "He claims he hates money yet he talks about wanting money!" is really feels like the "YOU DON'T LIKE CAPITALISM YET YOU EXIST! IPHON VENEZUELLA BOTTOM TEXT 1 BILLION DEAD" meme presented as an actual argument.
😂
"and yet you continue to participate in society? curious. i am very smart" reminds me of this meme
Yeah, I was watching that, and that just angered me. Like, he's talking about the biggest dichotomy in our society: The fact that pursuing money will ruin your life just as much as not having money will. And then they use him touching on this deep-rooted problem as some kind of half-assed gotcha.
@@capn_toad lol yeah was going to give a similar comment
The only other option to making money is literally dying from starvation, so to claim that people shouldn't complain when they said yes to something for money is utterly absurd. In a world dominated by money, the control of capital restricts us from any real free choice.
Fully agree. A lot of people think that hypocrisy* is something to write home about, and that it completely destructs an argument (which is a logical fallacy). It's sort of an issue with people not seeing themselves in the other person's shoes, as a lot of people tend to distance themselves from the person they're debating. But if your family was on the brink of homelessness, who knows what things you'd need to do to stay afloat?
*By hypocrisy, in this instance I'm talking about people who speak out about actions (or jobs) that they partake in.
Yes!!! A lot of people would be willing to take part in the challenge that Jake Weddle did because, like him, they're desperate to pay off student loan debt that we all got suckered into.
Fun fact, this was one of the main points of Squid Game which was the most watched on Netflix. Did no one understand the plot of Squid Game. Because it wasn't that subtle.
It's the same playbook society always uses to shift blame onto the disempowered in any regards.
You want to fight climate change? It's your fault for buying plastic-wrapped products!
You're constantly one paycheck away from homelessness? It's your fault for not using leisure time to pick up extra shifts!
You got SA'd? It's your fault for wearing revealing clothing!
Instead of risking their own status by challenging the system to be less oppressive toward others, it's easier for those who live in safety and stability to blame the victims of those systems.
@@drawingsticks5333Not even just Squid Game, there's basically a whole subgenre of "rich guy gets poor people to play deadly games for money."
One thing I will say is that I understand that building wells in Africa is a very kind thing to do, but for a couple of generations now it’s been a trope used to make fun of what some people refer to as “white saviourism” and what is generally a symptom of lack of social awareness; plus we’ve understood for years now that building wells does no good in the long term unless life time maintenance is somehow provided with the wells (it never is). In this case I think it’s more his money making complex that made him do it, but that’s besides the point: the fact he thought he was bigger than that decades old “building wells in Africa” meme is crazy to me. He could have done so many other things and avoided that criticism and it’s like he was baiting people.
aged like milk (into delicious cheese)
Maybe some Casu Martzu...🤢
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 😭😭 yuckie
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 menggoda lidah 😋
I like my cheese drippy, bruh!
If Bill Maher is the solution, I'm more than happy to be the problem
If he went into battle for me....I will just admit that I've been awful
Ohoho, it's me, an eighteenth century factory owner somehow able to operate legally in the year of our lord 2024! People get maimed and die in my factories all the time, but some of them are paid quite well, and they choose to work there, so clearly my factory's operating procedures are just fine as-is!
Honestly that's a fairly good description.
I just find it always so telling when people who bring the sussy stuff in regards to Ava up now would 100% defend it if she had never come out as trans.
Like with Dr disrespect
@@faithfm1or with Mr Beast himself. The dude ran the discord Ava was using to abuse fans. The dude knew about Shadman and said nothing
@@longliverocknroll5 I sure hope nobody beats Shadman to death with hammers one day, that would be a thing I don't want to happen
So incredibly true
its not really surprising when you think about it and look at what laws GCers keep trying to pass
Sunnyv2 does not deserve any kind of praise for "predicting" Mr. Beast's downfall. All that guy said was transphobic bullshit. Im still surprised that there are people who unironically believes in what Sunny has to say.
Dumb kids will believe whatever they want to, especially if their only friends are other bigots they talk to online.
I'm convinced the average age of his viewers is 15
The Kavernacle is the person who should be saying "I told you so" right now (and he is)
does it really matter? these youtubers only exist for my entertainment, whether they're "right" or "wrong" does'nt change anything in my life
@@Lora_Beolabspoken like the true entitled, ignorant brat you are
@@Lora_Beolab You clearly don't understand the nuance of how harmful this is
I think that it's so important to clarify that Ava Tyson is transgender and also a terrible person, but those are unrelated. SunnyV2 is just transphobic, gross.
“Unrelated.” I respectfully disagree.
@@ssesssusman9417it is most definitely unrelated. You are just eager to paint everyone different from you as bad
@@ssesssusman9417so. If I can name a cis person that is terrible, does that mean every cisgender individual is bad by default?
Someone's horribleness is not related to their gender identity. She might as well have been cis for all intends and purposes, her character, her behavior would not have changed in the slightest.
@@ssesssusman9417 congrats, everyone else disrespectfully disagrees with you
@@TryinaD No I’m not, I’m eager to paint how much disrespect Chris deserves. I’m not talking about the average transgender person am I?
Lil bro threw out a billion guesses with zero proof, got one right, and got praised for it, dawg what😭
Like bruh if i make a billion guesses about what celebrity will die on what day and one actually happens that doesn’t suddenly make me a prophet, that just makes me lucky
@@boirnoboiovanna1130 that's like the simpsons predicting trump's presidency lol
@@LegoGoblin ong
like, he got like, the noun and the adjective right, completely whiffing on all the verbs. do you get partial credit on takedowns?
Pulled a Nostradamus by generalising
I don't hate Critikal... but that line "Mr. Beast does everything that Twitter wants other rich people to do"... No... we want rich people to pay their fucking taxes, stop exploiting their workers, stop lobbying and working to pull up their ladder and instead lobby for more ladders. If a billionaire pays for my crazy expensive medical treatment I'm STILL beholden to them, they haven't FUCKING CHANGED anything, but an influential dude like Hank Green forcing pharma companies to drop their shitty patents so we can actually manufacture and distribute TB medication for a reasonable goddamn price... THATS FUCKING LIFE CHANGING... FUCKING LIFE SAVING.
New Mr Beast video idea, instead of something like "I treated 1000 people for HIV" Why don't you just invite Martin Shkreli to a cruise, leave him on a deserted island for a month, and kick him of the yacht if he somehow survives... in Minecraft.
Yeah, Mr. Beast does the opposite for what I’d want him to do. But that’s the problem, Critikal and the like don’t have a clue what it is we want the rich to do and what the left in general wants. I suppose it makes a lot of the divide make sense… but I’m still confused how they’re confused.
I just want there to be no more rich people.
@@jaybee4118they are incurious and listen to the most outrageous and overtop people and just decide that's what all leftists are like and believe.
They will look at some terminally online Twitter addict with some vaguely progressive views and be like "This is a leftist. This is what all leftists are like"
@@jaybee4118Charlie is a multimillionaire, of course he is out of touch as hell
I think a lot of people think "paying taxes" and "donating to charity" are essentially equivalent, so those people think Mr. Beast is *essentially* paying his taxes and "giving back his fair share." People just have difficulty imagining that donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars is a pittance to the truly rich. (One hundred thousand is literally 0.001% of a billion.) It would be like if a normal person just paid a handful of pennies for their yearly taxes. For such a tiny price to them, they get massively inflated reputations that prevents the majority doing anything meaningful against them.
ngl "mr beast may have violated the geneova convention" was such a jumpscare i legit belly laughed out loud for like a full minute.
Munecat, and jacksepticeye warned us, and they were right oh and you too Jack. I never ever liked Mr beast.
The Kavernacle called out the very obvious very early. Disappointed most in Coffeezilla who should have seen through it.
Yes, what do sloppa producers, like jacksepticeye, have to say about who is ruining UA-cam?
I'm Irish and I will forever hate jacksepticeye for normalising "Top of the morning", but he always seems to get on the wrong side of the drama mob.
Munecat and jacksepticeye are not a pairing I ever expected to see lmao
I think Sean clarified in his podcast that he didn't think that Mr Beast is bad, and even had a chat with Jimmy over DMs or something. I think it was on one of his brainleak episodes.
Seeing all the sub-zero reading comprehension arguments from people trying to shut down anyone who said anything even slightly critical about the way he went about his charity or the whole Squid Games thing was wild to me. And I saw this all going down back when it happened as someone with no strong feelings about Mr. Beast at the time, to the point that it kinda turned me off him and I didn’t care all that much to begin with. Seeing how rabidly people bent over backwards for this dude I don’t think most of them have spoken to or really know just reeked of something being deeply wrong. Especially seeing how badly they either misunderstood or intentionally misinterpreted the arguments people were making, for… some dude on the internet.
That kind of energy is just repellent to me in a way that I didn’t care enough to fully describe at the time, because I have better things to do with my time, but absolutely ruined any chance I would’ve had at being even a passive Mr. Beast supporter. Absolute cult behavior.
sub-zero
"oh yeah? well, when was the last time _you_ personally cured 9,999,999,999 people of cancer!? huh? that's what i thought"
They act as if those problems magically appeared "ah yes gene, double world hunger!" @@soupalex
Speaking as someone who also didn't know/care about him for a while (just watched video game or essay things so the "Live Challenge" stuff was never in my orbit aside from people doing them as one-off videos with friends), I feel like one of the weird moments from me was actually from the Ghost Kitchen video from Eddie Burback. In it, he basically talks about how various "restaurants" are in like, warehouses or inside of another restaurant, and the one thing I definitely remember was thinking while watching it "Huh, it feels weird seeing this random UA-camr just has a restaurant brand like this, especially since he's not a food person like Guy Fieri and such". Like it wasn't necessarily him doing anything bad (arguably Mr. Beast burgers was iffy because... the point of the episode), but it did stick out as "Oh huh, guess he is tied to questionable business practices". The one tweet of him also asking random people to make his chocolate bars look more presentable just also stuck out as odd, and while I can't find the video I remember one youtuber said they hated what Mr. Beast did with regards to how his influence affected UA-cam's algorithm. Like at no point did I see any of the actually awful stuff mentioned here, but from all the stuff I did see it was like "Oh, this guy somehow made it big and is definitely in it for the money now".
Had pretty much the exact same experience as you, I didn’t really think much of mr beast until I got exposed to the blind stupidity of his influencer defense squad. After that, anything that even remotely involved him just repulsed me.
I do not understand how anyone could have looked at Beast's immoral, egregious wealth and assumed that it meant he was anything remotely resembling good.
today i learned that going to the mental ward and being on a Mr. Beast video are way more similar than either should be, separately, much less mutually
currently in a mental ward and can confirm
@@esotericpince 🫂 I'm sorry to hear that and hope you get discharged soon. I would say I hope you feel better soon but, having just been to one about three months ago, I'm just going to assume that you'll have a better health outcome pretty much anywhere else and hope that comes sooner rather than later
@@jenny_azoth i'm actually having an ok enough experience (it's voluntary and in canada for context) thought it would be funnier to just agree with your comment 💔 im really privileged to be able to access a place like this (and to have mild enough mental health issues that i'm given more freedoms than the average person here, like going home on the weekend) sorry it was shitty for you :( thank you for the kind words anyway ! its complicated lol. it kind of sucks here but its not as bad as involuntary units or underfunded ones
@@esotericpince sending you all the positive thoughts and wishing you all the best ❤❤
@@esotericpince I'm glad to hear you have a better situation and are getting the care you need! Don't come to the US, lmao
Mr. Beast is in no way the "only" rich guy who spends the amount of money he does on charitable causes. He's just the biggest one who does so exclusively in the form of making UA-cam content and promoting his personal brands. Many, many people, both rich and not-so-rich, give money to charity all the time, it's just that most of them don't have massive audiences watching them.
Hell...That was Bill Gates brand for most of the 2000's
Yeah that's the thing, there are rich people out there that do donate to charitable causes. The difference is that they don't make a big deal out of it and they're not known for it at all. MrBeast's entire brand is just "Hey look at me in the good guy look at me donating to all these charities oh I'm so nice I would never do anything terrible"
And charity isn’t systemic change. The money spent on outreach in Africa is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions extracted from Africa through economic exploitation by western countries and corporations.
Saclers donating a ton to libraries and museums while spreading the opioid crisis
it was literally a handful of people who were actually upset about the wells thing, and the ENTIRE GRIFTER SPHERE pretended like it wasn't
It's like every video you make links back to "capitalism bad", but it's always interesting to see new outcomes of it
Has anyone ever introduced you to dialectic materialism? I would love to introduce you to dialectic materialism
@carlostaffanelly418 *dialectical materialism.
Or read Why Marx Was Right by Terry Eagleton. It's marxism-lite, but for many people it would be a good place to start. It's short and very well-written.
@@colonelweird yes thank you, I was typing on mobile
@@colonelweird Another one I always recommend is "Killing Hope" my William Blum.
all roads lead to rome
"The only prop he deserves is of the Alec Baldwin kind" good fucking lord 💀
I cackled out loud
oml I was stumped on what he meant until I re-read your comment and suddenly... like a shot in the dark...
OH FUCK LMAO I COMPLETELY FORGOT
I don't get it
@@nicoruppert4207 Rust lawsuit
People after watching Squid Game: “Wow such a genius critique about how capitalism allows money to be the most powerful tool to make people go through the most indecent, inhumane situations just to change their lives. The players are the true victims of the system.”
People after MrBeast’s victims come out: “WELL IT’S THEIR FAULT FOR ACCEPTING THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD DIE TO BE IN YOUR PLACE AND YOU’RE COMPLAINING?”
“there’s a common tactic you can use to jump from ‘I dislike this person’ to ‘disliking this person is an important cause for everyone,’ and that’s calling someone a p***phile”
And people just eat it up all the time. I guess the off-chance that you might get to vent sadism against the only broadly socially acceptable target is just too precious for people to pass up -.-;
Remember, if you want someone to support a cause, tell them that their children will be in danger if they don't support it. It worked for Hitler!
No, really. This isn't a joke. It's in the 14 Words and everything. "Think of the children!" was straight up one of the excuses the Nazis used for their crimes.
Well said
I got to laugh at that because as someone who's been SA as a child by different predators. People really only give a fuck if it's a vague concept that's removed from them.
No one's looking into the way so many cultures by design will protect incestuous predators, or look into child sex trafficking, or the way people dismiss children showing concerns, lack of discussions of consent to children (because oh no talking about content is talking about sex and that's taboo, because that's totally gonna help a victim to not know what's happening to them), the normalization of exerting power imbalance on children (even when it's not sexual) or even in this case internet safety.
So many people want to get mad without looking into the real factors that contributes to this. You can see it already in this video with that guy who was like "Ava is a predator and Jimmy knew" and as soon as it was his brother suddenly "the victim was lying".
we have learned nothing from the witch trials, or the mcmartin trial
Twitter users realising they can call anyone they don't like a p*do and everyone will automatically take their side with no evidence: *cue evil laughter*
"Money doesn't mean anything to a crab"?
Um... Jack, what about goddamn Mr. Krabs?
You just played yourself
I forgot he was a crab
@@LackingSaint I'll see you in court
Aged like milk 😔
@@LackingSaint Jack, I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this, but he has the word in his name
@@LackingSainteasy mistake, forgiven.
Does no one remember when he destroyed the thanksgiving of an entire community by buying out their only grocery store and donating this stuff a town over?
Nope. Feel free to give some citations.
@@MrTVintro it was a Thanksgiving episode, emptied a local Save A Lot. Every single item. I would say 5 or 6 years ago.
@@jamestaylor3805 Yes I know which video it is. I'm asking you to prove your claim that it ruined peoples Thanksgiving because they had to drive to a different city.
@@MrTVintro it was a poor community, couldn't drive anywhere... Thanksgiving ruined. It was a huge hoopla at the time and it's as if it has been nearly scrubbed from existence during the "we must all defend MrBeast" period.
@@jamestaylor3805 "scrubbed from existence"
Just like my last reply it seems.
TL;DR
SAve A Lot location was in Greenville where MrBeast lives. There easily a dozen or more larger and smaller grocery stores, store was restocked same day. Nobodies Thanksgiving was ruined.
Bill Maher: "Who the fuck are you?"
I'M A HUMAN BEING WHO IS NOT SWAYED BY $$$ AND ACTUALLY KNOWS WTF IS GOING ON, AND I ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE... that's who.
mrpieceofwork for president :D!
Bill Maher: "Oh, you're poor? FUCK YOU"
@@TomMinnowthe first president to have nothing
The entire wells thing got me, because I learned a local organization that had the contract was turned away, and instead the local government accepted help from an outside org that Beast had paid to dig the defunct wells, that were later found will fail within a decade. Thx Mr. Beast. The US based company didn't dig them to spec, and pocketed the Mr. Beast and government subsidy money.
Saw that coming a mile away because I've seen other rich crypto-loving grifters do the same with literally every project they got their hands on in Africa. (and yes Mr. Beast has some crypto interest, he hopped on along with Logan Paul on some crypto grift before.)
So where did you learn that? Because Google doesn't bring up a single thing.
@@MrTVintro try looking for "wells of life" rather than beast. The US based faith organization that Beast partnered with. Not sure which part of what I said you're interested in, but focusing on them might get you better results.
@@MrTVintro can't tell you, because every time I type it, UA-cam censors me.
@@infinitivez same
Acting like “you chose to do this for money” is the fault of a person in a desperate situation is the most obtuse statement - how about “you chose to offer money to someone who is desperate enough to suffer that much for it”? Like the power dynamic is so obvious, but the assumption is that it’s okay for those with money to be able to do whatever they want over those who don’t. Acting like Mr Beast is not responsible for unethical treatment and quite frankly torture in the case of the unreleased isolation video - as if he didn’t choose to inflict this on people while waggling money as incentive - pretending this is somehow defensible is inconceivably stupid to me.
The situation around shadman has always made me insanely uncomfortable. Just knowing that so many famous youtubers were completely "fine" with it is so gross...
Not directly related to that but I swear the internet must be a safe haven for pdf files, I’m in fan communities that have some of those “1,000 yr old kid” characters, and every time I comment about how weird those characters are, it’s like a coin toss that some weirdo will come out argue that I’m being judgmental, and I’ll have to futilely attempt to explain how CP is still CP even if it’s anime.
For some reason there’s a level of acceptance on the internet for owning cp because it’s not literally SAing kids
Even the creators of Smiling Friends and Sr. Pelo were 'okay' with him. It's just Newground boys protecting each other, but he was the one who "didn't grew up".
@@samkeiser9776 theres a level of disconnect for these creeps thats seriously dangerous. their main excuse is that it doesnt harm actual children when.... theres plenty of evidence and resources showing it being used as grooming material online
@@delunimbusits also funny when people ignore how blatantly racist sr pelo is too. one of the few videos i watched of his was a storytime about someone doing something because they're black (of course). not to mention the history of him using the n word
@@samkeiser9776 As much as I love playing Persona 5, the fandom and subreddit had me noping tf out of there as quickly as possible. It'll only take two and a half replies until someome starts arguing about how teachers should have the right to date students. Then, they'll go on their 'let me defend underage marriage' rant.
I know it's a small thing, but thank you for using Ava's correct pronouns while still discussing what she'd done. It's small, but so many jump to misgendering and being transphobic when a trans person turns out to be bad.
Yes! When you misgender a bad trans person you're not only being transphobic to them, you're being transphobic to ALL trans people. If someone was being racist towards a POC who did something bad and tried to justify it with "no no, I'm only being racist towards them, I'm not ACTUALLY racist," they'd be torn to shreds.
One guy out it best, "if you misgender a trans person just because they're bad, I'm looking at both of you weird now" these people have always been transphobic but only go mask off when it's suddenly acceptable to be bigoted because said minority turned out to be a bad person
It just makes it clear those people think being gendered correctly is some kind of 'privilege' 'good' trans people get which can be revoked for bad behaviour.
Same crowd who will put wicked trans people on blast, sneering about how they're not so perfect after all, are they?!?? Like, we never said they were infallible. We just said don't treat them as inherently evil for being trans.
Yes!!
Philanthropy as entertainment is gross and sus as hell.
philanthropy is basically siphoning money from poor people in private and then giving them back some of it in public
@@robinsparrow1618 Exactly
I do find it bizarre that they want praise for making rip off versions, and it's all junk food that is no good for you on top of it being creatively bankrupt.
If they wrote a book it would be called The Ravenous Larva, and it's better than The Hungry Caterpillar because it's 2 pages longer.
2 pages shorter, which is better because less time reading means more time for watching mr beast content. naturally all the artwork is ai slop, too, with no consistency.
recognized you from making a similar comment on Evil Pinely's video yesterday :D
I hate that I found out that the author of Hungry Caterpillar died because it was posted on the official Twitter for Blue's Clues
And it has Electrolytes!!
Ravenous Larva sounds like a dark souls enemy
Starting with bashing SunnyV2
Lets gooooo!
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YAAAY
Boohooo 😢😢😢😢😢😂
@@lamb9642 🤡
Its such a bummer that the hide and seek thing was rigged. What a fun concept just destroyed by scripting and business deals.
sick video, she should have won
I hate being right. I really, really do. I was content to just be annoyed that a youtuber had to "fix the world" with the most minimal charity and that he just gave me terrible vibes while he did it. To just take the damn L over being "one of those people." for daring question anything.
Like I'm a professional hater for my health or something. When your gut tells you something, it's usually right. We're a social species and the red flags were always there, even if we can't consciously call them out.
Never. Trust. The. Rich. Ever.
They don't see you as a person. They don't get there without losing that ability.
god im right there with you. my cousin tried to get me into mr beast (hes older than me, we're both in our 30s). i told him i dont trust rich people. i hope now he sees why
Damn that's so true
if they were born rich, they don't stay rich without losing the ability (well, not before sinking to 'upper middle class' whatever that fucking means these days)
if they weren't born obscenely rich, yeah.
Like I said before I'm waiting for Mr Beast, Logan and KSI to go into the drug trade and tell us all it's good because at least their product doesn't contain fentanyl.
Breaking Beast
I know Internet Comment Etiquette might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I found it a real temperature check when in one of his videos he stumbled upon SunnyV2's videos and, instead of leaving a trolling comment like he usually does, he simply used the "Don't recommend channel" button and went on with the video. Not even **he** wanted to give this guy more exposure.
Good guy Erik.
"Cringe in hindsight, but that was just the times,"
Yeah... No. That was just them being weird. That wasnt acceptable even back then.
On a very large part of the internet, yes it was.
It was unacceptable, but back then the internet accepted anything
@@80s_graffitireally? 2016 was when cringe culture was in full swing. You couldn't do ANYTHING the internet deemed to be cringe in the slightest. You like a game or a show? Cringe, get harrassed. That kind of thing.
Stop looking at this hellscape through rose tinted glasses only because you never experienced the sheer amount of witch hunting lol
@@sharkenjoyer rose-tinted? I was a child, this culture was vile to be surrounded by. Both existed at the same time, cringe and "this is just art" edgelord defense. They just kept their distance most of the time.
Basically, I'm sorry I'm only now getting in trouble.
55:06 Every time I see this sentiment expressed I think of the CJ the X quote that sums it up pretty well: "Profit isn't value. Value is value. Don't let them convince you they're the same thing."
You are not "giving the people what they want." You're essentially tricking them into clicking on a video and then tricking them into watching that video all the way through. That's what advertising is. The fact that Jimmy talks like Jeff Bezos probably should've clued people in a lot sooner.
Ah, a fellow CJ fan utilizing their words of wisdom!
Thank you for this comment.
Hopefully, to quote the X:
Everything'll be alright.
People keep saying on SunnyV2’s video that “they own him a apology” that BS but I think we really owe Rosanna Pansino a big apology she called mr beast out for some of this a long time ago and we ignored her.
Girl you don't have Bald and Gay 3 yet? Somebody buy this man bg3 right now
Great video, as always. I also liked the guest appearance of the washing machine, very calm and charming personality
On a more serious note: It is bizarre to me that people swat torture allegations (or whatever you wanna call it) by saying "you agreed to it AND you're getting paid by it, you can't complain", as if money was this completely optional side feature of human existence that you can opt in and out of at a whim. The sheltered life these people must live to not understand financial pressure and basic concepts of coercion is WILD. Me when I'd rather engage in some recreational victim blaming instead of wondering whether the squid games irl should be a legal thing to host
15:04 lol, "cringe in hindsight but those were the times" about 2016+ is deranged
2016 was absolute garbage, I'd rate 2012 as the last point I thought "those were the times". Mostly because at least everyone's cool personal sites were still around.
2019 does get a shout out for looking at what everyone was joking about was gonna be the next disaster and going "BET" and making our shitty memes real (wildfire: predicted. then we joked about a zombie epidemic and got the 'rona and everyone kinda got scared of meming a new disaster)
Right??? 2017 wasn't even a decade ago
@@neoqwerty I'd argue 2012 was the last hurrah of the old Internet.
the thing people don’t get about the “they chose to do this challenge, they shouldn’t complain” argument is that most people don’t realize HOW SEVERE what they’re choosing to do is. most of the people criticizing people like jake weddle and saying “they chose this,” likewise don’t realize the severity.
like, we all know solitary confinement is bad. there’s a reason it’s used to punish people who are already serving a criminal sentence. but i don’t think many people appreciate the way that it can cause permanent psychological damage in mere days. the idea of ANYONE doing a month of solitary is fucking insane, and i don’t think many people fully realize that. and being asked to run a marathon on top of that???? professional runners train for weeks, if not months, for marathons- and it’s still utterly exhausting. again, i don’t think there’s a widespread awareness of how grueling it is. like, there’s a very good reason why the namesake of the “marathon” fucking DIED at the end of his run.
It's not only that, jake weddle, just like the other contestants on beast games. They didn't sign up for the fck up shit, there was no warning, in fact they told Jake it was gonna be a vacation, made everything sound great and then what? Just like the beast games contestants not knowing they'll be filming at night fcking their nocturnal clock and not knowing there will be 2000 instead of 1000 people.
In the first place, challenges like with jake are handled with huge interview and psyche evaluation in bigger shows like survivor. Wtf would they choose the most extroverted and someone coming off seemingly with past mental health problems into this crap, especially when they let the other talents fake videos. Why not this as well?
The Worst of All Possible Worlds podcast has a great episode, "Who's Afraid of Mr. Beast," covering him from somewhere over a year ago iirc. One of the things they mention is that his channel's success is partly because he has been focused on gaming the algorithm pretty much from the jump. It's almost an obsession. This video and that episode pair extremely well, because they synthesize in a really interesting way.
I'm going to check it out 🙌
ETA unfortunately it seems the full episode is only available on their patreon :-/
So tired of the attack on the lgbtqia+ community, especially in the last few years. Me and my partner are just trying to get our kid through high school and it's sad to see how hostile everything is getting now
yeah fucking hell. as if we don't already hate ourselves enough
@@v0id_d3m0n oh and you know that gets used against us too, absolutely disgusting. Hopefully we start progressing forwards again soon...
I wish the best for you, your partner, and your kid. I truly do. I also feel the increasing hostility and it has made me want to disconnect from pretty much everything social.
Take lots of care.
@@v0id_d3m0n Why is that...? You guys are being your truest selves. No reason to hate the person you are, right?
zane, are you dense?
Shadman needs to be in jail, it's abhorrent
I don't think they actually do anything illegal though, it's just often times immoral
@@kirayoshikage1491 Depending on where you are, depictions of minors is as bad as photos of minors.
@@bushybeardedbear really? I guess that makes sense, different states/countries have different rules.
I thought it was rumored that Shadman did get arrested but for something entirely different (I don’t think he was put in prison for it though)
@@gorman1852he was in prision for asault for like 6 months
9:09 Mr. Beast could be doing far more nafarious thing woth his money. Like torturing a guy by leaving him in a grocery store for a month.
I love the "our standards for rich people are ABYSMALLY low" gambit, works every time, unfortunately.
Which the guy could voluntarily leave at any second. With running water, a makeshift shower and toilet facilities. With access to sunlight. With mountains and mountains of varied food & drink and a grocery store full of potential mental stimuli.
He could've done more nefarious things yea, like creating PragerU and funding that girl's channel so she can go and defend all the billionaires that did nefarious things.
How does the boot taste?@@MrTVintro
@@MrTVintro Have you ever heard that solitary confinement is literally torture? Not interacting or even seeing other humans causes intense psychological damage. Just because someone isn't literally starving to death does not mean they're not experiencing inhumane conditions.
Whoa, Moist Critikal had a bad take... And it was the same take as Bill Maher 😂
Poetry
Charlie isn't necessary a bad person, but he sure is necessarily stupid
@@cynthiacrescent yeah absolutely. He's great at some things, social commentary isn't one of them.
Charlie has been real quiet after he was in one of Mr beast’s video..
@@cynthiacrescentHe embodies the "Florida man"
I still have no idea who Moist Critikal is beyond a white cishet dude who has dumb opinions he shares in incredibly stupid fashion, and someone who has too many internet handles. why do any of us care what he has to say, if not merely as a control?
Pretty wild to see Shoe on the list of Shad defenders when she's been trying to make a niche for herself as UA-cam's greatest anti-grooming warrior (who completely ignores all of the many, many scandals involving Republicans and churches).
Not to defend Shoe here, but (anecdotally) I’m pretty sure I saw her in the chat of a ChudLogic stream about the Shadman situation (don’t ask me why I was watching I have no idea). I also think she was making fun of Shadman in the chat, but I’m not so sure on that one.
Not really. Shoe has always been ok hanging with weirdo sex pest types.
@@BunnyBoyMcGill Shoe is extremely sus for so many reasons. I used to love her but it annoys me how whenever she gets caught doing something that goes against her beliefs she acts like that thing was just a silly misunderstanding. Like, girl, you have to be incompetent or malicious to have this many oopsies. Pick ONE.
shes a liberal thats really fond of republican virtue signaling
As opposed to the many more scandals involving democrats and public school teachers (who are predominantly liberals)
Doesn't defend cuties, gets accused of defending cuties. That's the internet for ya.
Classis Sargon L
Are people still insane about that movie?
@@CanIswearinmyhandleI haven't through about that movie since 2020
I watched it bc I thought it fair to, you know, do that before screaming my head off when Netflix has a known history of sensationalist mismarketing (see also: _Q-Force_ discourse) and it was a coming of age story from the perspective of a child caught between two cultures with conflicting ideas of growing up. A typical French art house film that would have gone unnoticed if not for the shitty picture they used in the US for ads versus the one in France.
People can think the way the director went about it was incorrect but personally, I'm gonna assume there was something more than just titillation as to why the Black Muslim Algerian woman director was telling this story. 🤷♀️
(Also, of the very few close up shots of the bodies, doubles of legal women were used and there were therapists on set for the kids as needed. Even in the movie itself, this stuff was not depicted to be positive by normal people)
@@KariIzumi1 The right wanted a good hysterical reason to cancel Netflix and the left took the pedo outragebait angle they peddled on Twitter and went just as batshit with it, because performing not being a pedo is imperative so that people don't think you're a pedo, I guess. The movie is a meme now. Watching it = allegations. Talking about it = you should be on a list. So how would anyone ever know it's a kinda boring arthouse movie vaguely about growing up in the TikTok generation?
@@KariIzumi1 Yeah I also watched it and it really was just a movie and not the pedophilia version of Birth of a nation that people treat it as
Jack can I just say I love this embattled unapologetic version of you. "goblin mode" as the kids say
the most frustrating thing about people transgender, is that on the occasion that another transgender person you have zero affiliation with does something actually shitty, people who were already looking for an excuse to attack trans people as a group will find a few cherry-picked examples and go "SEE WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!".
Imagine if this was done to any other group of people. Imagine if any time a Christian talked about their faith and identity, everyone immediately went "OH so you must be a pedophile, right? I mean look at all these Church sex scandals", and the thing is even considering faith leaders are over-represented in those cases, kinda fucked up to collectively punish a group of people based on the actions of folks who share one thing in common and zero affiliation.
we do not have the benefit of being seen as individual people, only a monolith. doesn't matter that there are millions of us around the world, doesn't matter when cis people abuse trans people, or when trans people abuse other trans people for that matter. what people want is their biases confirmed, and trans people being like other people, means some of us do horrific things.
we can call it out and avoid abusers, ask for accountability, etc. but once you make this about the abuser's identity, you are doing a disservice to the victims, because it was never about them for you, it was about grabbing ammunition to defend your bigotry.
this
we should not use trans people who happen to be bad people as a way to be transphobic, or any minority for that matter. plus there are many trans people who aren't bad people
"people transgender" lmao
you're right tho
That is SunnyV2's actual voice?! How can anyone stand that shit for a few minutes?
People can listen to anyone if they say whatever they want to hear.
@@itcouldbelupus2842 it's like negative ASMR... Torturous.
@@brittlepencil2393 I think the average age of his audience is probably 15 so mostly just lower standards I guess.
It's surprising what you don't notice when 80% of your attention is on your phone, and not the video - which is how I assume his audience "watches" his videos.
I worry kids may develop UA-cam Voice
Skutch makes a thumbnail for F.D. Signifier: "A.I. art!?! I'm so disappointed in you."
Skutch makes a thumbnail for Jack Saint: "🦗🎶"
Edit: Skutch's art is amazing btw! Don't want people to get mixed up about my intentions. Just asking people to question biases and maybe read descriptions and pinned comments before commenting.
Skutch has had the AI accusations since the begining of the prominent AI surge.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Definetly seems like the proportion of those comments to other comments is higher when the creator the thumbnail is made for is a black person. The black creators on this platform tend to be held to a higher standard I've noticed. White creators are more likely to be extended grace and either assumed to have worked with and paid someone or it goes unnoticed when A.I. is used. These are just my observations, but it's kinda a trend you can notice if you pay attention. Like the black creators who tend to get successful are more likely to have a college education and degree than their white counterparts, almost like it's needed to become successful as a black creator when a large part of the available audience is white.
Did not think it was AI when I saw it on F.D.'s video, also didn't know the same artist did both thumbnails! Now that you've said it though, I can see the similarities.
What people seem to not understand is that he was holding the prospect of a better future, the pursuit of happiness, over people's heads... there is no greater form of control than to hold someone's own future hostage. I don't think most people understand that money IS that exact thing, and we've tricked ourselves for generations that capitalism isn't form of control that drives technological progression and furthers the roots of exploitation that underpin the system.
I start to feel good about having no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about and then I realize that they are PROFOUNDLY WEALTHY because they are ASTRONOMICALLY POPULAR and then I shrivel into a compacted bit of detritus and cease to exist.
"and then I shrivel into a compacted bit of detritus" is one of the best things I have read on the internet, thank you.
In some immortal words: "Overrated by a mile, overbearing, unimportant, overrated, overblown!"
T_T
I love having my feed be bombarded with drama about the same person for months, but only finding out what's actually going on when Jack Saint talks about.
FINALLY SOMEONE NOT DEFENDING SUNNYV2
It’s just wild to me how you can watch Squid Games and then genuinely think “let’s make this an actual game show!”
Like… how?
We finally created The Torment Nexus from the sci-fi novel "Don't create The Torment Nexus"
@@lankinmoon In b4 Mr Beast recreates Omelas, but only the part with the suffering kid in the hole
I keep saying modern AI is a race to build AM.
I loved Oneyplays but since DingDong and Julian left, it isn't for me, especially after Chris' statements on Shad. If you were made aware your friend drew nsfw of REAL LIFE KIDS why are you not stepping back and saying that's indefensible and messed up? I tried calling it out at the time too but I got dragged as well. I believe Julian specifically said he did not like Shad and that's one of the reasons I really liked DingDong and Julian. I have no idea why people like Shad were so normalized back then.
Oney can be a very funny guy, but I never thought of him as someone who really had a lot of perspective on things, DingDong and Julian are a lot more grounded (And as much as Tomar and the others are funny, I think DD and J brought some balance.),
He wasn't the only one either, the whole culture around Shad was so weird, I used to think it was just the L*lis, but he drew plenty of other shit, and it blows my mind anyone tried to defend it as an "edgy" humor even then. I'm glad internet is a bit past that, but history will probably repeat itself.
Because Oney also drew nsfw of real life kids? Have you seen his Harry Potter animations?
@@nachoqt I didn't really keep up with his art and I agree Oney made weird stuff but Shad is a whole different beast. He drew NSFW of his own mother. 💀
Asmodeus fan omg Obey Me sis
@@80s_graffiti OMG!!! It's so rare to see obey me fans in the wild nowadays!
I used to like Sunnyv2s content, the I realised what it really is when he put up the Redemption of Logan Paul video which was overwhelmingly positive, didn’t even address half the controversies and Sunny released the video during the cyptozoo controversy
I always wonder if Jack's awesome Mum will get asked her opinion on something again in a JS video. Jack's Mum's appearances are rad; they have a nice vibe together.
But some topics I'm like "I'd rather Jack's Mum doesn't know this exists...".
This is one of them. Protect her peace of mind.
Jack's mum is the best.
Can't wait for the day when people have this realization about every celebrity that's ever existed. You can't get to the top of any hierarchy without standing on the bodies of the people you've defeated.
Under capitalism, certainly.
The ladder to success is made of bodies under capitalism, unfortunately. I wish money wasn't real lmao
I love your channel Jack, but as a trans person, I'm gonna have to pass on this one. Just hearing Sunny's video by itself is depressing as hell and the fact that so many people are just chill with that does not do great things for my mental health. Still liking though.
I wish more UA-camrs could be like Shaun, where they talk about all this awful stuff without feeling the need to show you clip after clip of it. It makes it harder to watch this type of content when it also means listening to soundbites of Shapiro, Walsh et al
oh jesus christ seeing that last content warning one just gave me a fight or flight, please tell me that won't be prominently featured in the vide-
aw, fuck...
welp i wasn’t sure what you meant until it jumpscared me.
Oh man I was wondering what this comment would refer to and when it hit me my jaw dropped
the scream i scrum
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@@cranktherider4302 I scrum so fuckin' loud
The shit with shadman trips me the fuck out even to this day
Insane how many creators were okay with him even after he drew CP of the literal child from logan
he hwat
@@tinoesroho I dunno about the logan child cp thing but he drew Keemstar's 8 years old in notsee lewd, and he also drew porn of that lady who was kidnapped in an elevator, went missing, and the video of her kidnapping went twitter viral.
And that's just what I was exposed to against my will that I know of that was WHAT THE FUCK.
Tbf, I think a lot of the creators on the “list” have said they didn’t know the extent of what Shad did and just knew of him as a meme figure or whatever. Like interacting with his non-child porn art like once isn’t indicative of them co-signing everything that he did. The r/youtubedrama list is just kind of that though, a list of everyone who ever associated with him in any capacity.
@@tinoesrohothe X-Men movie Logan
@@Kallgon yeah I wish it went into to detail of the range people were associated with like oneyplays was actually friends and defend him, while others were actively dismissing him. But a large most were just "Hey look controversial boogeyman guy let's make a joke about him" in general that was still a bad thing alot of people did I wish they didn't give an actual pdf a platform
Everyone saying Sunny was right but not mentioning the allegations that actually got Tyson cancelled instead of what Sunny was throwing up really rubs me the wrong way.
Like they don't actually care what Tyson did, just that they did something bad, which fuels their hate. They couldn't care less.
its why 90% of them were also defending DrDisrespect despite his allegations being much much worse
It's why they ignore the fact that Beast was hiring predators *after learning of their history.*
Its never about defending the kids
I don't think that your channel is terrible, actually is quite good.
I agree, its eclectic nature is very charming
Accusing the people calling out the people filming themselves doing good things of virtue signaling is such clear DARVO. Kavernacle has said it for ages. The masses need to catch up.
Meh, Kavernacle is insufferable at times with their clearly devoid of contextual knowledge at times. It's lazy. There's already way too much of that content.
@OryxAU this is...a really bad opinion you have.
@@OryxAUHis childish opinions on the Tv Show Mr Robot made it hard for me to take him as seriously, but that's a personal bias I have against people with bad media analysis skills
@@maybemablemaples2144 Kav is 50/50 on good takes. Heart's in the right place, the ethics and morals are consistent, but god does he talk out of his ass when he goes outside his wheelhouse.
The only reason I'm still positive toward him is that despite his sometimes TORTUROUS media illiteracy on his analyses, he's still checking out as staying true to his stances and hasn't done any hypocrisy there that I've seen.
But god, his take on cyberpunk alone had me wondering what the fuck he watches to get the conclusions he got. Not to watch for media analysis that's for sure.
@@neoqwerty okay another opinion.
Bill Maher: "You have a problem with an influencer trying to change the world for the better? How pathetic."
Also Bill Maher: *jokes about a travel vlog couple being murdered and how its not a real job*
Turns out MrBeast was the downfall of MrBeast in the end
Did . . . did the title change without me reloading? I'm 40 minutes in and I'd swear the video was called something like "An Apology Video" instead of "The Collapse of Mr Beast". Yeah, it was! The tab's title is still the same! I'm not crazy. I'M NOT CRAZY.
I saw it too!
Me too! I saw it also!
It's still called "An Apology Video" on my tab and on the title. Did he change it back ?
when i clicked on this video, it was "an apology video," now it aged like milk.
fucking finally, someone seeing through the sunnyv2 shit. i'm sick to death of people backtracking and praising the guy for somehow "predicting" the entire situation when the issue he spoke of was entirely different from the actual allegations.