Matthew 16:25 “For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.“…. >>> And one of them, a lawyer, asked Jesus a question to test Him, ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?’ And He said to him, ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.'” -Matthew 22: 35-40 >>> For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 >>> Luke 12:49-56 “I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning! 50 I have a terrible baptism of suffering ahead of me, and I am under a heavy burden until it is accomplished. 51 Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! 52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against-or two in favor and three against.” 53 ‘Father will be divided against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother; and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.’[a]” 54 Then Jesus turned to the crowd and said, “When you see clouds beginning to form in the west, you say, ‘Here comes a shower.’ And you are right. 55 When the south wind blows, you say, ‘Today will be a scorcher.’ And it is. 56 You fools! You know how to interpret the weather signs of the earth and sky, but you don’t know how to interpret the present times.>If you do not put God above your family you all will not be saved and come harvest time you will be separated from your family and thus thrown into the fiery pit.
I hate the "'You Atheists'" callers (especially repeat callers) for the simple fact that they are always 70% preaching and 30% debating skills/arguments.
Christianity is built on assertions. The truly indoctrinated think saying something with confidence makes it true and when I tell them Muslims and pagans also assert their message is true they spin out and Gish gallop or call me an agent of satan. They are naive enough to believe throwing bible quotes at people that said they don’t believe in the bible will somehow be a magic spell that converts us. It’s irrational and the proselytizing is insufferable. I just walk away or say hail Satan to drive them off
@@oliverthompson9922 Saying something like "Are you done, is that the whole thing?" in response to your position being completely dismantled and then following it up with random shit that in no way addresses the points you were given, is incredibly rude.
@NottherealLucifer nah, it's not rude in itself. Saying "have you finished?" can be meant in a rude way or it could just be a genuine question. Some people are better at expressing themselves than others. I can see how it came across as rude but I think he was genuinely asking for permission to speak. Forrest just misjudged it.
Saying ‘no one knows the day or time’ gives a convenient ‘out’ since he can’t be proved false when the end doesn’t come. All cult leaders like Applewhite, Jim jones, Jesus and all end of days preachers can cruise along and be unfalsifiable. That’s the evil genius of using that claim
I think that makes it worse, becasue if no one knows the "day or time" then the event could already have happened but the prophecy failed and no one realized.
@@GodcodeX77 But then how can you trust Jesus with his "timings" ever again?? If say you would have a normal conversation with Jesus (ie in heaven and or on a re-created earth) then how would you understand what Jesus would mean whenever he used the word "soon" in conversing? So there is already a precedent set there, a pretty big and time-ly precedent if you'd ask me. Can't also wait to hear "God" soon-enough as it explains evolution and why Jesus does not have a tail bone.
And how his life is retconned to have him fulfill prophesies. Is there a prophesy that the Messiah is to be called Immanuel? Just claim that it's a title and claim that Jesus had that title. See. Easy, peasy.
It is worse when you notice there is not beginning for that timeline. The two references for a beginning in the story gets you to a time frame that doesnt exist.
There was no Jesus. He is a fictional character. There is not a single contemporary of Jesus who mentions him. Not one. The Romans kept great records. They never mentioned him. No one did till Flavious Josephus, and that was almost 100 years later. A lot of experts believe that those may be later additions by Christians to give Jesus credibility.
*FYI* Armin does a great job also running the 'Atheist Republic' podcast, specifically dealing with Islam. Yes, Atheism is growing in the Muslim world as well, so despite Religion's desperate power grabs as of late, there is hope. Once the seeds of reason and compassion start in one generation, Religion cannot keep people oppressed forever.
I was on the fence about Gigotwat's claims but the multiple laugh emojis he places at the end of his comments have completely swayed me and persuaded me that he's right. You can't argue with emojis 🙏
The Bible genuinely is *far* more fascinating from a secular perspective. I’ve never been more interested in the Bible than since I’ve become an atheist.
A Christian is 99.9 percent atheist of gods. Were you not an atheist of the Hindu God's, ancient Greek gods, Egyptian God's? You just added one more god to your list of disbelief.
It is always curious how atheists, specially ex christians, know more about the bible than christian themselves... almost as if reading the bible is a way to abandon the cult.
@@wrencestondwanson3437 "If a day is 1,000 yrs" ?? but a day is a day and 365 days are one year. But thanks for giving us yet more evidence that the bible is a load of babble.
@@wrencestondwanson3437 That "if" does all the heavy lifting in your fantasy world. Time to come back to reality, admit you lied in making your failed prophecy, and then we can work on curing you of your God disease and helping you to learn something for once.
@@holgerlubotzki3469Apparently god is ignorant of what a day means so he told his worshippers the wrong time. Christians are supposed to wait 10 billion years before Jesus comes back.
hmm. so , having a solarpanel or something, that is not hooked up to the grid, having a phone that is charged by that panel, makes you somehow NOT offgrid? Please explain.?
@@Goldenhawk583 Because he admitted he was lying. Thanks for asking. Now can you please explain how you can get internet reception from a solar panel...?
@@Sundae_Times lol, I was pointing out how you can be offgrid and still have electricity. But I suspect we define offgrid slightly differently. I see it as being selfsufficient when it comes to energy production. So there is no wiring delivering electricity to the property. Having a phone or a computer with mobile access to the internet does not connect you to the electrical grid, but it does allow you to take part in online activities. Like paying bills.
In Matthew 24:19 Jesus said woe unto women who are with child and breastfeeding. “Woe” means suffering, desolation, and distress. And the context is that Jesus is speaking of the “end of days”. And the entire chapter is referring to the end of days; nation against nation, false prophets, and heaven and earth will pass (end). So according to the Bible, Jesus was DEFINITELY NOT a peaceful prophet.
@@wrencestondwanson3437Hell isn't real, and if it were your bitch ass god can get off of its fat useless ass and actually tell us that it is. Your imaginary friend doesn't scare anyone, you dolt.
@@wrencestondwanson3437 As that other person mentioned, all Forrest is doing is criticizing the actions the "faithful" are taking and questioning the basic logic of god's mythology and existence. If that warrants eternal torture, your god is a monster undeserving of worship
Jesus definitely wasn't peaceful: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
I can do you one better, :p. Luke 19:27 (KJV) But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 And do you actually think you made a fucking point? The book was written by desert dwelling dipshits, it doesn't matter if people are actually following it completely, we know they fucking aren't, that's our goddamn point.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 Ever heard about the crusades, or the inquisitions? And yes, people are still dying because of witch hunts, exorcisms and praying instead of seeking medical help.
Hey, Seth? I'd just like to say thank you for the eye-roll at Forrest's "Never had a bad day in my life." Much appreciated, dude -- you non-verbally speak for many of us. 😂 Love you, Forrest. (I'm actually wearing my Roland shirt today, lol.)
Jesus is God in the flesh. God himself wrote the 10 Commandments with his finger which is preserved in the Ark of the Covenant….and you are not Holy enough to see or touch that!
There are no characters in any version of any religion’s literature who exhibit all-knowing and infallible capabilities. YHWH is a complete failure in his relationships with humans. Knowledge is that thing Christianity's God did not want humans to have. Christianity’s creator God is six do over plans deep by the time we get around to reading Revelation.
@@photographyenthusiast9941 too bad you cannot demonstrate with any means what the g0d even is. But you are already at a story about the g0d and g0d magic. seems legit
A claim is a statement or assertion that is made to support a particular viewpoint or position. It is a statement that presents a belief or opinion without providing any evidence or supporting arguments. Claims are often used to persuade or convince others of a certain perspective, but they do not necessarily provide a logical or factual basis for that perspective. Instead, claims serve as the starting point for further analysis and discussion. @@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 Evidence is any information or data that supports or refutes a claim, hypothesis, or argument. It is the basis for making decisions, drawing conclusions, and establishing the truth or validity of a statement. @theflaggedyoutuberii4311
@ggedyoutuberii4311 A claim is just something you assert. Like "There is a unicorn in my garage". Whereas evidence would be to demonstrate it actually is there. Claims are quite literally worthless on their own. Of course we accept many, many claims on a trust basis, because most of them are mundane. "I had toast this morning" is a claim. But it doesn't need evidence because it's both completely banal and also not consequential. The more outlandish the claim, the less likely for someone to accept the claim without evidence. So in the case of my garage unicorn claim, there is no way anyone would believe me without evidence.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311Stop being purposefully obtuse, you're not this fucking stupid. Words, tiny moron, can often sound the same, or even be spelled the same, and yet have completely different meanings. You're talking about a legal concept, not an assertion of a fact. Just like how the word "base" can mean "the lowest part or edge of something," "a conceptual structure or entity on which something draws or depends," and "a place used as a center of operations by the armed forces or others; a headquarters" depending on the context, the word "claim" also has different meanings. I know you're not actually ignorant of that fact, but the only way to deal with people like you is to actually spell it out completely so your attempts to pretend to be thick don't work, and you're forced to fall back on sarcasm or outright insults.
a 'peaceful messiah' who introduced hell to those who do not believe and also the end of days both as a coercion tool to scare his listeners into submission which is reminiscent of a mobster.
We don't know that anyone named "Jesus" who was the "son of God" actually existed 2,000 years ago in a small, mid-eastern country called Palestine. At that time in history there were many wandering prophets and preachers convinced that the end of the world was upon them, and probably more than a few were named Jeshua or Jesus, but regardless of what they claimed I doubt if any of them were the "son of god". It's a good story, but there is no shortage of good stories without a shred of evidence proving they ever happened. Tell us why anything about the "Jesus" fables makes them believable, why a god should send his "only begotten son" to a primitive desert country that didn't even have the printing press, why a young Jewish girl wouldn't tell a fib about how she got pregnant, and why one individual's tortured, painful death should compensate for two millenniums of human cruelty. Realistically, nothing about the story makes sense. Politically, it's a gold mine for anyone seeking unearned power over the gullible. I recommend that fantastically overwrought tales about the metaphysical -- when repeated with great solemnity by politicians, military leaders and greedy televangelists -- should be viewed with utmost suspicion.
False. Thee are Jewish historians among others that wrote about him. And because it made too much sense it’s deemed unreliable and or “written by someone else.” You know what they say, if the facts don’t support your claim change the facts.
@@anthonylemanski9032"if the facts don’t support your claim change the facts." this is just what the church has been doing to the bible since it was written. And I'll repeat what the OP said. There is no conclusive evidence that anyone by that name existed and did what is reported in the at fairy tale book.
😅 Yeah, but did the Sheeple ever say that he was going to return before his disciples tasted death? And then never return??? That makes Sheeple more honest than Jesus.
I've destroyed you and all your asinine, lost & clueless ideas and I promise you that such will continue. I never lose. God said his existence is known when we observe what has been made (Romans 1:20). So when we actually observe what is made, we see that all physical matter is FINITE/contiguous/DYING/losing information/decaying in disorder (entropy) to it's END/heat death. How can a DYING entity have a regress of just more DYING entities? Is there just falling dominoes forever and NEVER a prime mover to start the fall? So do we have a DYING cause? No, because there's no possibility of an INFINITE regress of the DYING/FINITE. There has to be a NON-DYING CAUSE to initiate FINITE existence. In the fall of dominoes. there has to be a prime mover & not just another preceding falling domino. Our eternal/infinite God is easily proved. The chain of creator/created cannot only be populated only by "needy" finite links that depend on other "needy" finite links to come into existence. There must be at least one infinite "non-needy" link as prime mover/uncaused first cause/infinite G0D to start existence (the chain of creator/created). Entropy prohibits all gain of information (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and that's why NONE OF THAT GARBAGE has ever been observed. Atheism destroyed - God proved - I'm a genius. Oh btw, just admitting that there was a beginning of time (planck epoch) debunks your desperation that nature is INFINITE, because only in time can nature progress. Without time, you have no nature: time/matter/space/energy. You have NOTHING without time and we know FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) came into existence simultaneously, due to their correlative nature. If you have matter, but no space, WHERE would you put matter? If you have space, but no time, WHEN would you put space? As I've even further proved, our INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL, ETERNAL GOD is required to produce FINITE NATURE, just as a set of dominoes falling; there can't be only falling dominoes; there must be a prime mover to start the fall. In other words, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Again, destroyed: Argument from Entropy: You argue that the observation of entropy in the universe implies the need for a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move toward disorder, it does not necessarily require a supernatural prime mover to explain its effects. The concept of entropy is well understood within the framework of physics and does not imply the existence of a specific deity. Prime Mover Argument: You invoke the Prime Mover argument, which suggests that there must be an initial, uncaused cause to start the chain of causation. However, this argument is based on philosophical assumptions and has been subject to criticism and debate. Alternative explanations for the origins of the universe exist, including naturalistic explanations that do not rely on the existence of a supernatural prime mover. Entropy and Information Gain: You claim that entropy prohibits the gain of information, which you use to dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution. However, this oversimplifies the concept of entropy and its relationship to information. While entropy may describe the tendency of systems to become more disordered over time, it does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the gain of information through natural processes. Nature of Time and Existence: You argue that the beginning of time implies the existence of a supernatural, eternal God. However, this is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion. The nature of time and existence at the earliest moments of the universe is still an area of active research and debate among physicists and cosmologists, and it is not appropriate to draw definitive conclusions based on current scientific understanding. In summary, while your argument presents a philosophical perspective on the existence of God and the origins of the universe, it relies on assumptions and interpretations rather than empirical evidence. The questions of God's existence and the origins of the universe remain subjects of debate and inquiry within both religious and scientific communities. Your claim that atheism is "destroyed" and that God's existence is "proved" is not supported by the argument presented.
@@ApatheticFish3667 You're once again debunked in factual details. Are you really this stupid? The Bible is all fact. However, hell is full of intelligent fools. Maybe you're just desperate to be the boss, instead of God; so you don't want God to exist. All atheists are liars (Romans 1:20), so I refuse to ask you any questions and hope for the truth. The "ignorant people" of 3,500 yrs ago didn't have the knowledge to write what's in the Bible. The Bible is a record of observation that's written by God himself. If you think the Bible wasn't observed and documented by God, then you are poorly educated as there is more evidence for the Bible then any other historical writings. God wrote the Bible & used mankind to pen it. You actually think God would depend on weak stupid humans to think up and print his Word? That we'd be judged on "Judgement Day" by what men wrote and not what God wrote? God promised that he'd preserve his Word and he did (Psalm 11:6-7). The Bible has plenty of science in it’s 66 books. It mentions the effect of a nuke on the human body, the 2nd law, the fact that God created time/space/matter/energy, that circumcision is done on the 8th day, just like doctors do today. The earth is round and the fact that the Universe is expanding: ”He alone STRETCHES OUT the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea.” Job 9:8. ” … who STRETCHES OUT the heavens like a curtain, and SPREADS THEM like a tent to live in.” - Isaiah 40:22 You have a lot to learn and you’re basically starting from abject atheist idiocy. Let me educate you further: Assumption of Entropy and Decay: You assert that all physical matter is finite, dying, and decaying in disorder due to entropy. While it's true that entropy describes the tendency of systems to move towards disorder, it doesn't necessarily imply that all matter is inherently dying. >>> Yes, it doesn. Furthermore, the concept of entropy applies to closed systems, and it doesn't necessarily apply to the universe as a whole. >>> NO, the "system" doesn't matter and to prove it, what "system" will stop you from dying? You're debunked. Infinite Regress Fallacy: You argue against the possibility of an infinite regress of dying or finite entities, stating that there must be a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. However, this is a misapplication of the principle of causality. While it's true that an infinite regress of causes may pose philosophical challenges, it doesn't logically necessitate the existence of a non-dying cause. Additionally, positing a non-dying cause raises further questions about the nature and attributes of such a cause. >>> Wrong again. I've pointed out to you over & over that All life & all matter are trending in disorder towards their heat death end and that via the chain of creator/created, FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) are all NEEDY links in that chain and the chain must also have a NON-NEEDY link (God) in the chain or else the NEEDY links cannot exist. NEEDY links only lose information & heat as their chemicals react. Prime Mover Analogy: You use the analogy of falling dominoes to illustrate the need for a prime mover to initiate the chain of causation. While this analogy is often used in cosmological arguments, it oversimplifies the complexities of causality and the nature of existence. The analogy assumes a linear, deterministic model of causation, which may not accurately reflect the nature of reality at fundamental levels. >>> See above, because I already debunked you. Argument from Entropy: You argue that the observation of entropy in the universe implies the need for a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move toward disorder, it does not necessarily require a supernatural prime mover to explain its effects. The concept of entropy is well understood within the framework of physics and does not imply the existence of a specific deity. >>> Wrong. Since all matter moves into disorder, it requires an initial input of order (GENESIS). There's no escape for the atheist. Prime Mover Argument: You invoke the Prime Mover argument, which suggests that there must be an initial, uncaused cause to start the chain of causation. However, this argument is based on philosophical assumptions and has been subject to criticism and debate. Alternative explanations for the origins of the universe exist, including naturalistic explanations that do not rely on the existence of a supernatural prime mover. >>> A lot of words to say nothing, kid. I've pointed out to you over & over that All life & all matter are trending in disorder towards their heat death end and that via the chain of creator/created, FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) are all NEEDY links in that chain and the chain must also have a NON-NEEDY link (God) in the chain or else the NEEDY links cannot exist. NEEDY links only lose information & heat as their chemicals react. Entropy and Information Gain: You claim that entropy prohibits the gain of information, which you use to dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution. However, this oversimplifies the concept of entropy and its relationship to information. While entropy may describe the tendency of systems to become more disordered over time, it does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the gain of information through natural processes. Nature of Time and Existence: You argue that the beginning of time implies the existence of a supernatural, eternal God. However, this is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion. >>> Wrong. The cause/source of "time" is required to be TIMELESS. Absorb the facts.
@@frompartsunknown687 Debunked ONCE AGAIN: 'Biblical Infallibility: You claim that the Bible is all fact and that it was written by God Himself. However, this is a theological belief rather than an empirically proven fact. The assertion that the Bible is historically accurate and divinely inspired is a matter of faith, not objective evidence. Misuse of Scripture: Quoting Romans 1:20 to label all atheists as liars is a misinterpretation of the Bible. This verse does not specifically refer to atheists but rather to those who deny the existence of God despite the evidence present in nature. Using it to categorically dismiss all atheists as liars is an oversimplification. Scientific Accuracy of the Bible: While the Bible may contain passages that align with scientific understanding, such as descriptions of natural phenomena, it also includes many passages that contradict scientific knowledge. Interpreting biblical passages as scientific truths requires selective cherry-picking and ignoring other verses that are inconsistent with modern science. Entropy and Disorder: Your argument about entropy and disorder is based on a misunderstanding of thermodynamics. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move towards disorder, it does not imply that all matter is inherently dying or decaying. Entropy is a measure of energy dispersal and does not necessarily signify an ultimate heat death of the universe. Prime Mover Fallacy: You invoke the Prime Mover argument to suggest the necessity of a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. However, this argument is a philosophical assertion and does not provide empirical evidence for the existence of a supernatural deity. It relies on assumptions about causality that are not universally accepted. Misrepresentation of Scientific Theories: You dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution by claiming that entropy prohibits the gain of information. However, this is a misunderstanding of both entropy and the scientific principles underlying these theories. Entropy does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the evolution of life over time. Nature of Time and Existence: Your argument that the beginning of time implies the existence of a timeless God is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion. While it's true that the origin of time raises profound questions about the nature of existence, attributing it to a supernatural deity is a matter of belief rather than empirical evidence. In summary, your arguments rely on theological assertions, misinterpretations of scientific concepts, and logical fallacies. They do not provide compelling evidence for the existence of a supernatural deity or the infallibility of religious texts like the Bible.
@@frompartsunknown687 Your incorrect understanding of thermodynamics doesn't count as an argument. Your "look, things decay, so that must be god" makes no sense. This is ALL just fiction you created UNSUPPORTED by the Bible. You are making up a LOT of fanfic just from a verse that says that your god stretched out the heavens. If you would BOTHER to look at the Hebrew, you would know that interpretation is a... stretch. you have SO much fallacious arguments to share, why do you run from calling in or debating for real? Hmmm? Are you THAT scared? Your cowardice means that you LOSE all these interactions BY DEFAULT.
I just want to thank the Christian trolls for repeatedly demonstrating that their preaching is counterproductive. It's just as much appreciated by us nonchristian theists as it is the atheists. Thank you ❤❤❤
What do you mean by hell? Because the Bible is full of contradictory description of hell. Matthew 10:28 says that your body and soul can be destroyed in hell. But then later, in Matthew 25:46, Jesus says that if you weren't charitable to the needy, you will be eternally punished. Which is it? Are you destroyed or eternally punished in hell? Apparently the Bible actually subscribes to the Greek concept of Hades, as opposed to the Jewish concept of hell in the old testament. But then the Bible contradicts itself by saying that it's a lake of fire. Which is it? Revelations 20:13-14 talk about everyone being judged for what they did to determine whether you go to hell, but then in the Pauline section, what you did doesn't matter, since you just need to accept Jesus. Hmmm... how contradictory. And according to the Bible, DEATH as well as Hades are thrown into the lake of fire! How nonsensical. It's almost as if NO ONE actually knows what hell is like, so the authors of the Bible just made things up with flowery allegories and whatever was available in the Greco-Roman culture. 🤔 ...sounds like confusion???
@@queuecee We only have the Bible and thousands of NDE testimonies to know about hell. Some people say “WE LIVE ONCE!” Yes and you die once also. And you’ll be dead for a longgggg time. 100 trillion yrs and you’ll still be dead. But hey, we don’t really die; we just change locations. God kills us all at some point: “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” - Hebrews 9:27 And if you don’t understand eternity now, you’ll understand it then. You arrive in hell (if you die sealed in your sin) the moment you die w/ your last gasp and your temporary free will expired. THEN you will wish 100+ trillion times that you had never been born. IMMEDIATELY you know you’re in hell, because the heat is much too hot for life. The stench is far worse than dozens of open sewers & the sulfuric smell is toxic. But you’ve taken God for granted and without his grace, you’re in hell now FOREVER. And the most horrible mental torture you bear in hell is that you know you will never get out. On earth, you can breathe, be comforted, eat, smell fragrances, enjoy relationships, sleep, daydream, walk around in freedom, watch entertainment, go swimming and enjoy the things God has provided. But in hell NONE of that is possible. To add some more, there will be no comforts in hell, such as communication, a fresh breath of air, relaxation, quiet, room temperature, calm, water, freedom from predators, food. On top of that, demons will torture you. Whatever sin you committed on earth, you will be grouped w/ those people and tormented by demons FOREVER that actually get high on your pain. If you’re not screaming loud enough, demons come to you to fix it.
@@sineaddwanson9294 How funny that you went from "millions" of NDE testimonies to "thousands".😂😂 Anyway, provide even five NDE testimonies about hell. There's only that one debunked guy that's making money off of his dishonest description. Who else? And can you provide any from non-Christians from non-Western nations? I'll bet they'll have a VERY different description.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311So the gospels contradict each other? Got it! What about the other people that mentioned Jesus’ command to cause division, says he HAS NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD, and that people who don’t worship him should be slain? Are you going to keep ignoring that?
Well it’s seems the pressure of hitting 64 days of failing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings is really starting to bend the “theists” out of shape. But they e come no closer to breaking their losing streak.
According to neppy if you've never heard of this Jesus character you don't go to hell. It looks like he hasn't thought about the implications of his preaching or what that really says about Christianity
And he talks as if he's sure what his God would do. It's almost as if he's just making up what his God would do. Or does his God take orders from him? 🤔
@@queuecee ACCORDING to JESUS CHRIST, the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God as written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 ACCORDING to SATAN the DEVIL, the Creator is cruel, merciless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God in his hatred and mockeries of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3. ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS who deliberately joined Satan the Devil in dishonoring and insulting the Creator as cruel, merciless and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God are clearly the arrogant, merciless, and deceitful mockers and haters of the Creator and Jesus Christ on earth who are obviously hurt and offended by the TRUTH that the SUBMISSIVENESS of lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth to the authority of Jesus Christ and OBEDIENCE to his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" will definitely bring them honor and the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful Earth without arrogant, cruel, and merciless persons, without liars, slanderers, traitors and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8. All Atheists and Christians can't evade the TRUTH that their Satanic hatred, mockeries, OPPOSITION and DEFIANCE of the authorities, will, teachings, and instructions of the Creator and his Christ will definitely bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall, and turning into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths while LOVING, KIND, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever, instead, in the right and proper time, the Creator will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, Jesus Christ as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Armin. huge mistake by flopping around different parts the gospels. These believers ALWAYS will say that another part of the bible has a different context, but if just literally read 1 verse down from the callers reference, Matthew 24:37 "As it was in the day of Noah, so it will be in the coming of the Son of Man." Literally an apocalyptic reference. They love just cherry picking specific verses, then completely ignoring the context.
Weren't the days of Noah choc full of incest and liquor? What's that got to do with the apocalypse? On a more serious note, I think there's a difference between the end of the world and the drowning of most life. life could obviously return to the earth, once the waters receded; not sure that's the case, post-apocalypto ...I don't really care about fairy tales one way or another, but I'd challenge your supposed "direct" apocalyptic reference...especially when levelled against someone who, as you indicated, is unlikely to be arguing honestly in the first place...just sayin'
@@sixofsix "As it was in the day of Noah, so it will be in the coming of the Son of Man." *Literally an apocalyptic reference.* I was cheekily pointing out that "the time of Noah" is not *LITERALLY* an apocalyptic reference. What it is, is *literally* an allusion to which you are choosing to ascribe apocalyptic characteristics. "The time of Noah" could *literally* refer to 12:57 on some idle Tuesday where he was sleeping one off. ....So I'm very much challenging *YOUR* reference, inasmuch as you've failed to use the biblical reference correctly/accurately. I furthermore articulated that there is a vast chasm between drowning *most* things, *AND THE APOCALYPSE,* with all of its characteristic *TOTAL* global extermination, cataclysmic tumult, etc... live well
FloridaBBJKickboxing, 5 hours ago (on Daskippa's "I hate God" thread below): "I’ll debate anyone! I work nights, so anytime on my schedule after hours EST! I know those goofy demons in you are scared, & they better be! Amen! 💪" Quecee's reply: "This should be fun. I'll find a way to let everyone know how to listen in. And even ask questions." So come on, Florida, what's the hold-up? This is your chance! 🤔
@@Sundae_Times I'm not upset. I've just never read such an overt rendering of the conversational tropes exhibited by individuals like @tolkar273. Just enjoying my Saturday morning here.
@larrycraddock3063 really misses the good old days. He really longs for the time way back when the inquisitions were cool and he and his friends were allowed to torture anybody who dared raise a quizzical eyebrow in response to his claims that the tribal war g0d of one particular tribe of bronze age desert nomads was actually real. He didn't mind the Salem Witch Trials either. Too bad for larry that nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
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Morning. You just missed all the threads from @1.21gigowatts showing his proof that he wears women's lingerie to give his "service" at the back of truck stops. He got embarrassed and deleted all his threads.
@@queuecee I'm shocked that he deleted that entire thread from yesterday that had about 150 comments on it. Is there any point in engaging with that dude just to see our efforts go up in flames?
@@Sundae_TimesMost of us have taken to starting our own threads* to laugh at him instead of engaging him directly. It's funny to see him scramble for attention. He posted at least half a dozen threads this morning before deleting them all. * with blackjack! And hookers!
@@Sundae_TimesYeah. Don't contribute to his thread. If you have a response, do it in a new thread that someone else has started to respond or create a new thread yourself. That way, even if he deletes his posts, your comments will remain. His whole shtick is to get you to respond in his thread and then "wave" them away by deleting the thread. Don't take his bait.
Trolling doesn't do Religion any favors regardless. Poe's law - parody (or in this case trolling) can be indistinguishable from genuine lunacy and absurdity.
Also note that circular reasoning is not technically invalid. All it means to say that an argument is valid is that IF the premises were true, the conclusion would logically follow- IOW the conclusion would ALSO be true. And "A therefore A" is definitely valid in that sense. But a circular argument is an informal fallacy because it 'works' by assuming the truth of the very thing the argument is supposed to demonstrate!
"Extraordinary claims"- 1.21 Gigawatts: keeps using that term. In their hands, it is a term of trollish sophistry that has no actual meaning other than, "I want to put you on the defensive."
DNA and its origins are a matter of scientific study. If 1.21 Gigawatts has feedback to provide on the science, why don't they do that in the arena of scientific research and debate instead of in the comment section of an atheist YT channel?
@@amtlpaulIf anything DNA proves evolution as it is a link to every preceding creature. And that's not even addressing that DNA is full of errors and is a primitive system for passing along information. If a God or gods did it, there'd be no need for DNA or perhaps there would be multiple unrelated methods
@@amtlpaul There's actually quite a bit of research in the evolution of DNA and RNA polymers in the primordial earth. It's very likely that DNA came about MUCH later than RNA. And there's been pretty good research demonstrating that RNA can generate random sequences and from these random sequences, it's possible to get enzymatic ribozymes that can catalyze replication.
When we have claims of divine revelation, we have to consider different possible explanations of what's going on. One can make a rational case that the evidence supports one to the exclusion of all others, but that requires presenting the evidence and showing that it unambiguously points to the one explanation rather than the others.
Divine revelation is irrelevant until someone PROVES there is something out there that is both divine AND caused a revelation.. The fact that EVERY religion has claims of divine revelation implies that if all other religions are false, then all other divine revelations are also false, and if so many are false, the odds are that the Bible god beliefs are also false... and shows that divine revelation cannot be used to PROVE any religion....
Giggles still hadn't figured out why his argument is circular, despite it being spelled out to him a dozen times. Maybe he should reread the older threads... Oh, wait... 🤣
He's run away so much, I don't think he'll ever agree. I've destroyed his shoddy cosmological argument, pointed out the absolute idiocy by saying causes can't be finite, and his idea that an intelligent god is needed to create something from nothing, especially since he has such a limited understanding of nothing. So, I think he'll be too scared to agree to a real debate when he can't do anything in the comments except "nuh-uh". But I would LOVE to laugh directly at his claim that he's been doing this, SO badly, for FIFTY years. And I would get him to confess that he's never had a real debate before.
NEPy. Pro tip. If you are going to run away from real debates, don't go around claiming that you've defeated every atheist or that you run this channel. The level of humiliation that you've brought on yourself is ALL because of your lying bluster.
@ Liar. I've easily destroyed every atheist on these threads - especially you and to prove it, you're not going to present the details as to how you beat me. I always win and everybody knows it. Fact sting LOL Let me (Dr. Powers) be clear. I TOTALLY DOMINATE this channel for yrs now, because I’m blessed by God. And by the will of God, I know more than you, type better than you, fight/work harder than you and am anointed to win any debate on these threads against any atheist that comes my way. That’s only going to continue for yrs to come. So you can either fight me and lose or you can take advantage of my knowledge to learn the truth (God, Creation, The Bible). But in the meantime I'm going to TOTALLY DOMINATE this channel for yrs to come and guess what? There's nothing anybody can do about it :)
@@frompartsunknown687I don't know if you've noticed but nobody here takes you seriously. In fact posts like yours make Christians look stupid and make atheism the only logical position
An edit on this post. BJ provided his contact, I think due to the backlash, he tried a bit harder to provide his number. I texted back and forth with him, and it looks like he misunderstood and took this comment to mean that I declined the debate: 🤷♂ "@FloridaBJJKickboxing And we don't need to exchange phone numbers. We'll do this on a public platform." I don't know why he immediately sent out the inflammatory reply without even responding to my request for the dates, but that's water under the bridge. The bottom line is we will try to make arrangements to have this real, voice debate. It'll be recorded and I'll make sure to include the debate in its entirety so that there's no contentions about what was actually discussed. Despite this unfortunate incident, I commend BJ for at least being willing to have this debate, unlike some Christian trolls that I know... So we'll see if this actually happens. The below is the content of what led to this hoopla. -------------------------------- @SundaeExpress had challenged FloridaBJ to debate me, and he surprisingly accepted, unlike some of the theist trolls here. So I told BJ: "@FloridaBJJKickboxing OK. Give me some dates and times when you are available." But instead of replying with the dates and times, here's what he said: "I challenged you to a one-on-one, man-to-man debate, & you declined! So don’t go around acting all tough like you’re ready to debate people when you’re not!!! If you muster up the courage, you know where to find me! 👍" He never responded to me prior to that message, to the point that @SundaeExpress wrote: "@FloridaBJJKickboxing Why haven't you answered Quecee? You said you'll "debate anyone any time after hours EST", so here's your chance!" and "@FloridaBJJKickboxing Oh dear, you've run away again. You're a liar and a coward." You can judge who's the liar here. But I brought the receipts and I told BJ to quote me where I declined him. He obviously will fail.
@@ChristOnABike1 He constantly posts Bible verses and pretends that he has some higher morality. He REALLY demonstrated how awful the Christian trolls on here are. I guess maybe the other trolls should thank BJ. Now we know which of them is the most blatantly dishonest hypocrite.
@FloridaBJJKickboxing That way you don't have to put your number in the comments. And you don't have to pretend you posted it and deleted it after a while. Not that you would do something so dishonest. 🙄
What's up with such obvious blatant lying from these trolls? They absolutely don't care that they are just lying through their teeth. Gigolo and BJ, but so many others.
1 21 Gigawatts is still trying to pretend that "A therefore A" counts as a deductive argument for A. No, it doesn't- not when A is the very matter under dispute!
@t800fantasm2 Yep. Their outright lying that atheists reject deductive reasoning is a pretty good sign of their desperation. But what's strange is that he wants to keep his fallacious NOT deductive reasoning, even when it leads to the "proof" that he wears women's lingerie to sometimes go "service" truckers at the back of truck stops. 😬 He's really committed to the fallacy.
Gigolo's extraordinary claim: "I proved the existence of god, both inductively and deductively (it's so easy when I can just declare that premises are just true because I said so). No one else in human history was able to do it, but I did it using my "logic". But these mean atheists won't believe me!😭😭😭 Boo, hoo, hoo! Now my shift is starting and I have to go to the back of the truck stops."
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 It's in Matthew 16:28 "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." And what does this mean? In Matthew 25:31-32 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." In before some Christian comes with their _ad hoc_ explanation that "Son of Man" already came in his kingdom when he was on the Mount of Transfiguration. And YET, NOWHERE does it mention the angels. There's no sitting on the throne. And no all nations gathered before him and him separating them one from another.
FIRST: Thank you, Forrest, not just for your integrity, but for pointing out the power dynamic problem with the story of Mary's pregnancy. I've tried to stress this issue with several people and most are far better at understanding this dynamic than the caller, even though they disagree with my characterization. I don't think Bart Ehrman claimed that Jesus was saying the end was coming *next week,* as the caller claimed. I've not listened to everything Bart has stated, so I guess this is another "Citation Needed" moment. Also, it feels like this caller was less making an argument or having a conversation, but just waiting to assert his claims; as if he wanted to preach, not discuss. Plus he keeps making these comments about his imaginary interlocutors, asserting strawman positions about atheists and other non-Christians.
Well 68 days have come and gone since counting began and nobody has been able to provide a single convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings.
The lies of atheism cannot be EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution). ONLY TRUE NATURE can be EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
Bravely bold Sir NEPPY Rode forth from his basement. He was not afraid to lose, Oh brave Sir NEPPY. He was not at all afraid To be shamed in silly ways. Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir NEPPY. He was not in the least bit scared To be laughed at in public. Or to have his brain flayed out, And his logic broken. To have his fallacies split And his self esteem burned away, And his credibility all hacked and mangled Brave Sir NEPPY. His lies smashed in And his hatred cut out And his logic removed And his banality unplugged And his nonsense raped And his rebuttals burnt off And his penis (Phallusees?) "That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot." Brave Sir NEPPY ran away. ("No!") Bravely ran away away. ("I didn't!") When logic reared it's ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. ("I never!") Yes, brave Sir NEPPY turned about from the debate he chickened out. ("You're lying!") Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir NEPPY!
@@frompartsunknown687"OBSERVABLE"? So we can go observe Jesus get crucified and rise from the dead? Or do you mean, we can read a story about it, written by cultists who weren't there and never observed it either? Exactly what "OBSERVABLE evidence" did you provide?
I challenged "wave away" to prove their claim or lie and say, "asked and answered". Their response was to lie and say "asked and answered" I challenged them to prove me wrong about calling them a liar and present their best/strongest evidence or prove themselves to be a lying hypocritical coward by engaging in claim and blame. Their response was to call me a liar and calling me arrogant. In other words, they claimed and blamed. Are they the biggest lying hypocritical cowards in this section? Discuss.
Maybe he answered in some posts from the past few days. He can just tell us which posts from the past he "answered" the questions that were "asked". Right? If by some weird technical issue, his comments got deleted, then he will need to give those answers again, unfortunately. 😂
@@queuecee "If my some weird technical issue, his comments got deleted, ..." Yeah, they "accidently" pressed the delete button over and over and over and over and......
Yeah he tried that moronic "asked and answered" with me and proved to everyone he was a lying dishonest troll with mental issues.... The best thing about lying trolls is we all know, that if they have to lie, then they truly have NOTHING!
“I just wanna state that jesus wasn’t with ISIS” that had me dying lmao 17:12 also Armin’s face when the caller said “maybe you could grow back your hair” 💀 19:34
I WISH that when some of the theists make the EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM that SCIENCE fully supports their bare statements that they would show some ACTUAL science, such as citations and research. Instead of just some vague _post facto_ justifications to say that trees or DNA means god.
God said his existence is known when we observe what has been made (Romans 1:20). So when we actually observe what is made, we see that all physical matter is FINITE/contiguous/DYING/losing information/decaying in disorder (entropy) to it's END/heat death. How can a DYING entity have a regress of just more DYING entities? Is there just falling dominoes forever and NEVER a prime mover to start the fall? So do we have a DYING cause? No, because there's no possibility of an INFINITE regress of the DYING/FINITE. There has to be a NON-DYING CAUSE to initiate FINITE existence. In the fall of dominoes. there has to be a prime mover & not just another preceding falling domino. Our eternal/infinite God is easily proved. The chain of creator/created cannot only be populated only by "needy" finite links that depend on other "needy" finite links to come into existence. There must be at least one infinite "non-needy" link as prime mover/uncaused first cause/infinite G0D to start existence (the chain of creator/created). Entropy prohibits all gain of information (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and that's why NONE OF THAT GARBAGE has ever been observed. Atheism destroyed - God proved - I'm a genius. Oh btw, just admitting that there was a beginning of time (planck epoch) debunks your desperation that nature is INFINITE, because only in time can nature progress. Without time, you have no nature: time/matter/space/energy. You have NOTHING without time and we know FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) came into existence simultaneously, due to their correlative nature. If you have matter, but no space, WHERE would you put matter? If you have space, but no time, WHEN would you put space? As I've even further proved, our INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL, ETERNAL GOD is required to produce FINITE NATURE, just as a set of dominoes falling; there can't be only falling dominoes; there must be a prime mover to start the fall. In other words, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Look trees, look entropy, look things die, that must mean god. The reason that entropy is increasing, according to you, is because of the NON-DYING CAUSE. Because your god is weak. So what would have happened if only a FINITE cause started everything? Oh, the same thing. Great.
Don’t be a fool! These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
Notice that he actually admits that all he has is a "valid" logic. He can't bring himself to make up the lie that it's a sound logic. Probably because he's so ignorant that he doesn't understand that. A deductive argument has to be valid and sound, and he wants to pretend that he knows "logic".😂😂😂
They can't acknowledge any such difference, any more than they can acknowledge a distinction between 'looks designed to me' and 'somebody designed it'..
Of course he also throws in a strawman for good measures. He claims that atheists (not scientists for some reason) say DNA "code" was "coded" by nothing. I don't remember saying that. You?
@@sideboob6851 Yeah, such a great addition to the cotery of trolls on this channel. And he's soooo witty in his retorts.🙄 Well, at least he's up front about his necropolis. 🤷♂️ So he's not into kink shaming. So I'm sure he's willing to come out about his coprophilia and who knows what else.😬
@@RodneyR-kx9nkOh, I'm sorry. Did I hit a nerve by bringing up your kink? So you have coprophobia, a negative fascination with feces. I'm sure your obsession is treatable, with the kind of witty banter you are able to hold here, you are obviously very mentally equipped to take of your obsessions. Now hit me with your best worn out juvenile playground insults. What you gonna do? Respond with, "no, you"?
@@sideboob6851 He seems to have some strange fascinations. Fortunately, he's not too smart. He didn't know what coprophilia was, so he had to look it up. 😂 You can tell because he copy pasted it. That's why it's capitalized in the middle of the sentence. 😂
The caller is in the comments. He didn’t know that. Now that he’s been told he doesn’t care. When he was told about the Spanish Inquisition he said “do you think Jesus was Spanish” showing he simply doesn’t have the brains to understand what he’s talking about.
@joshsheridan9511 No. They have quite a bit besides strawman. They have circular reasoning, personal incredulity, ad hominem, equivocation, sheer dishonesty, pure ignorance, etc. They have a LOT!
This reminds me of this vid I saw once about this preacher who said the end is near, and all who got there were so happy that the hell was over. Me, I agree, come soon, end of times.
The debackle about Forrest's name might be cause he didnt understand that Forrest was his FIRST name, since he said "Mr. Forrest which usually point to the last name of a person with that honorific
1.21 Gigawatts made the clam that "Atheists say you have to break the rules of reality in order to make an argument." I don't know what atheists he's referring to, but I suspect they are imaginary. That claim doesn't make any sense to me. But then, the same is true of a lot of Giggles' garbled claims.
Did he already give up? I wonder if he realized the obvious logical error in his "argument". Or maybe he got frustrated with the lack of replies in his thread. Or maybe he wanted to delete his posts before his shift at the back of the truck stop in his lingerie. 😂
@@queueceeAlmost certainly the latter. Explaining the obvious flaw to him in length isn't enough. As simple as it is, he'll never figure it out on his own.
“He’s not an apocalyptic figure because I say he wasn’t” is basically the caller’s argument. 😂
Yep. Everyone else throughout all history has it wrong. But Mikael gets it 🫠
KNOCK KNOCK!
WHO'S THERE?
JESUS!
WHAT DO YOU WANT?
I'M HERE TO SAVE YOU!
FROM WHAT?
FROM ME IF YOU DON'T LET ME IN!
Knock knock
Who's there?
Jesus and a bag of nails
OK, how can I help?
Could you put me up for the night?
And yet we are meant to have free will while being threatened by this gangster Jesus!
@@Sundae_Times dark.
I bet lots of priests want to "let Jesus in"
AHAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@BenjaminJones-y4hJesus is way too old for a priest sir!
Ah yes, the guy who "came with the sword" and told people to hate their entire families, the prince of peace, indeed
Which verse; which chapter?
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 doesn't matter. Lord of the Rings is better.
@@nathanwatkins1005 For nerds.
Matthew 16:25 “For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.“….
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And one of them, a lawyer, asked Jesus a question to test Him, ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?’ And He said to him, ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.'”
-Matthew 22: 35-40
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For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12
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Luke 12:49-56
“I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning! 50 I have a terrible baptism of suffering ahead of me, and I am under a heavy burden until it is accomplished. 51 Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! 52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against-or two in favor and three against.”
53 ‘Father will be divided against son
and son against father;
mother against daughter
and daughter against mother;
and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law
and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.’[a]”
54 Then Jesus turned to the crowd and said, “When you see clouds beginning to form in the west, you say, ‘Here comes a shower.’ And you are right. 55 When the south wind blows, you say, ‘Today will be a scorcher.’ And it is. 56 You fools! You know how to interpret the weather signs of the earth and sky, but you don’t know how to interpret the present times.>If you do not put God above your family you all will not be saved and come harvest time you will be separated from your family and thus thrown into the fiery pit.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311The Bible, Lord Of The Rings - both works of fiction so I suppose on that basis both are intended for nerds.
Armin, Seth, and Forrest is a powerhouse line up. So cool to see you all working together.
Amen.
@@slackerman9758😂
Amen-Ra
I hate the "'You Atheists'" callers (especially repeat callers) for the simple fact that they are always 70% preaching and 30% debating skills/arguments.
The ratio is much worse than that, but you’re right that they preach more than they debate.
I really hate that they'll preach but the shit they're saying will have nothing at all to do with the conversation that they're a part of.
It's never great to lead an argument with your bias. And they 100% dodge questions.
Christianity is built on assertions. The truly indoctrinated think saying something with confidence makes it true and when I tell them Muslims and pagans also assert their message is true they spin out and Gish gallop or call me an agent of satan. They are naive enough to believe throwing bible quotes at people that said they don’t believe in the bible will somehow be a magic spell that converts us. It’s irrational and the proselytizing is insufferable. I just walk away or say hail Satan to drive them off
Apologetics that start off with _"You atheists"_ aren't actually apologetics, are they?
“I don’t mean to be rude…” Yet it comes so naturally to you, caller. Impressive.
I genuinely don't think he meant to be rude.
@@oliverthompson9922 Saying something like "Are you done, is that the whole thing?" in response to your position being completely dismantled and then following it up with random shit that in no way addresses the points you were given, is incredibly rude.
Yes, i'm very impressed with myself.😂.
@@NottherealLuciferI'm not looking at the screen. I can't see if they're done talking or not.😮.
@NottherealLucifer nah, it's not rude in itself. Saying "have you finished?" can be meant in a rude way or it could just be a genuine question. Some people are better at expressing themselves than others.
I can see how it came across as rude but I think he was genuinely asking for permission to speak. Forrest just misjudged it.
Saying ‘no one knows the day or time’ gives a convenient ‘out’ since he can’t be proved false when the end doesn’t come. All cult leaders like Applewhite, Jim jones, Jesus and all end of days preachers can cruise along and be unfalsifiable. That’s the evil genius of using that claim
Tbf, Jim Jones chose the date, then had them all end themselves that day. Not technically wrong, was the end of their times
I think that makes it worse, becasue if no one knows the "day or time" then the event could already have happened but the prophecy failed and no one realized.
@@UhOhDovah Jim Jones didn't know the "date" until the day it happened. It was a panic response to being found out by the US government.
Jesus coming back has taken an ungodly long time, I'm starting to think we got Holy Ghosted....
@@GodcodeX77 Sure he will... until then I'll be busy with something plausible.
Wow super cool. Start a cult or something. Don't just sit on that intel!@GodcodeX77
@@nathanwatkins1005Sounds like they already did 🤣
didn't see this coming😂
@@GodcodeX77 But then how can you trust Jesus with his "timings" ever again?? If say you would have a normal conversation with Jesus (ie in heaven and or on a re-created earth) then how would you understand what Jesus would mean whenever he used the word "soon" in conversing? So there is already a precedent set there, a pretty big and time-ly precedent if you'd ask me. Can't also wait to hear "God" soon-enough as it explains evolution and why Jesus does not have a tail bone.
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Following the timeline of Jesus as he goes form preacher to miracle worker to god makes him sound like a cult leader.
And how his life is retconned to have him fulfill prophesies. Is there a prophesy that the Messiah is to be called Immanuel? Just claim that it's a title and claim that Jesus had that title.
See. Easy, peasy.
It is worse when you notice there is not beginning for that timeline. The two references for a beginning in the story gets you to a time frame that doesnt exist.
There was no Jesus. He is a fictional character. There is not a single contemporary of Jesus who mentions him. Not one. The Romans kept great records. They never mentioned him. No one did till Flavious Josephus, and that was almost 100 years later. A lot of experts believe that those may be later additions by Christians to give Jesus credibility.
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Armin, you are fabulous.
He really is. So good that you won’t see a single intelligent post that disagrees.
@@jayrose8638 Amen! The atheist Bad Experience has gotten so desperate that they have to hire Muslims to back them up🤔🤔🤔
@@369spartan Nope, homophobia is fascistic.
He's becoming one of my favourite hosts.
I also love hearing about his religions, and how similar it is the the Christian one as well.
*FYI*
Armin does a great job also running the 'Atheist Republic' podcast, specifically dealing with Islam.
Yes, Atheism is growing in the Muslim world as well, so despite Religion's desperate power grabs as of late, there is hope.
Once the seeds of reason and compassion start in one generation, Religion cannot keep people oppressed forever.
"I come not to bring peace but division!"
That sums it up quite nicely
But god said to be fruitful and multiply, not to subtract from what you said.
@@queuecee I thought he said "be a frootloop and tell lots of lies"... I must have misheard.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED what context is missing?
Congratulations on 408k Subscribers AXP ❤❤❤
Armin: "...Jesus was not ISIS, and I agree with you. Jesus was failed ISIS, okay?" 😂😂😂
I guess he was 'failed ISIS,' in the sense that he failed to do anything that isis ever have done.😂.
I was on the fence about Gigotwat's claims but the multiple laugh emojis he places at the end of his comments have completely swayed me and persuaded me that he's right. You can't argue with emojis 🙏
Gigotwat, Nepy, Libby, Flo, Lamebot et al... I'm conducting a survey. Just one question: what's your favourite flavour of Kool-Aid?
The Bible genuinely is *far* more fascinating from a secular perspective. I’ve never been more interested in the Bible than since I’ve become an atheist.
A Christian is 99.9 percent atheist of gods. Were you not an atheist of the Hindu God's, ancient Greek gods, Egyptian God's? You just added one more god to your list of disbelief.
It is always curious how atheists, specially ex christians, know more about the bible than christian themselves... almost as if reading the bible is a way to abandon the cult.
@@Julian0101 The whole world revolves around Christianity? A Christian thinks so.
Jesus was preaching the 'end of times' 2000 years ago, and we're still here!
If a day is 1,000 yrs, then the last 2,000 yrs could be defined as "The Last Days."
@@wrencestondwanson3437but virtually none of the prophecies from revelations has come true
@@wrencestondwanson3437 "If a day is 1,000 yrs" ??
but a day is a day and 365 days are one year.
But thanks for giving us yet more evidence that the bible is a load of babble.
@@wrencestondwanson3437 That "if" does all the heavy lifting in your fantasy world. Time to come back to reality, admit you lied in making your failed prophecy, and then we can work on curing you of your God disease and helping you to learn something for once.
@@holgerlubotzki3469Apparently god is ignorant of what a day means so he told his worshippers the wrong time.
Christians are supposed to wait 10 billion years before Jesus comes back.
Lamebot says he lives off-grid... yet he somehow manages to access the internet day in day out 🤷♂
hmm. so , having a solarpanel or something, that is not hooked up to the grid, having a phone that is charged by that panel, makes you somehow NOT offgrid? Please explain.?
@@Goldenhawk583 Because he admitted he was lying. Thanks for asking. Now can you please explain how you can get internet reception from a solar panel...?
@@Sundae_Times lol, I was pointing out how you can be offgrid and still have electricity. But I suspect we define offgrid slightly differently.
I see it as being selfsufficient when it comes to energy production. So there is no wiring delivering electricity to the property. Having a phone or a computer with mobile access to the internet does not connect you to the electrical grid, but it does allow you to take part in online activities. Like paying bills.
@then youu're on the gridGoldenhawk583
Big Brother sees you...
In Matthew 24:19 Jesus said woe unto women who are with child and breastfeeding. “Woe” means suffering, desolation, and distress.
And the context is that Jesus is speaking of the “end of days”. And the entire chapter is referring to the end of days; nation against nation, false prophets, and heaven and earth will pass (end).
So according to the Bible, Jesus was DEFINITELY NOT a peaceful prophet.
Three things in life are inevitable.
Taxes. Death. Forrest never having a bad day in his life.
Just a bad eternity in hell, unless he decides to leave the darkness & come into the light.
@@wrencestondwanson3437Hell isn't real, and if it were your bitch ass god can get off of its fat useless ass and actually tell us that it is. Your imaginary friend doesn't scare anyone, you dolt.
@wrencestondwanson3437 What an 'all loving' god you believe in...
@@369spartanScumfuck believer spotted
@@wrencestondwanson3437 As that other person mentioned, all Forrest is doing is criticizing the actions the "faithful" are taking and questioning the basic logic of god's mythology and existence.
If that warrants eternal torture, your god is a monster undeserving of worship
Mikael finds out what's in his book and he doesn't like it.
Which book?
Armin, I love the way you articulate... You explained all religions of all times in a few minutes. Bravo!
Jesus definitely wasn't peaceful:
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
I can do you one better, :p.
Luke 19:27 (KJV)
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
And do you actually think these people are murdering each other or something?
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 And do you actually think you made a fucking point? The book was written by desert dwelling dipshits, it doesn't matter if people are actually following it completely, we know they fucking aren't, that's our goddamn point.
That's the dream my dude, that's the dream.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311
Ever heard about the crusades, or the inquisitions? And yes, people are still dying because of witch hunts, exorcisms and praying instead of seeking medical help.
Hey, Seth? I'd just like to say thank you for the eye-roll at Forrest's "Never had a bad day in my life." Much appreciated, dude -- you non-verbally speak for many of us. 😂 Love you, Forrest. (I'm actually wearing my Roland shirt today, lol.)
Hahah, i was like “who says that with a straight face?”
We have zero documents, document fragments, or words on any page written from the biblical character, Jesus’, own hand.
Jesus is God in the flesh. God himself wrote the 10 Commandments with his finger which is preserved in the Ark of the Covenant….and you are not Holy enough to see or touch that!
There are no characters in any version of any religion’s literature who exhibit all-knowing and infallible capabilities.
YHWH is a complete failure in his relationships with humans.
Knowledge is that thing Christianity's God did not want humans to have.
Christianity’s creator God is six do over plans deep by the time we get around to reading Revelation.
Are you being serious?@@photographyenthusiast9941
@@photographyenthusiast9941
@@photographyenthusiast9941 too bad you cannot demonstrate with any means what the g0d even is. But you are already at a story about the g0d and g0d magic.
seems legit
Mikael doesn't seem to understand the difference between claims and evidence.
What's the difference o wise teacher?
A claim is a statement or assertion that is made to support a particular viewpoint or position. It is a statement that presents a belief or opinion without providing any evidence or supporting arguments. Claims are often used to persuade or convince others of a certain perspective, but they do not necessarily provide a logical or factual basis for that perspective. Instead, claims serve as the starting point for further analysis and discussion. @@theflaggedyoutuberii4311
Evidence is any information or data that supports or refutes a claim, hypothesis, or argument. It is the basis for making decisions, drawing conclusions, and establishing the truth or validity of a statement. @theflaggedyoutuberii4311
@ggedyoutuberii4311 A claim is just something you assert. Like "There is a unicorn in my garage". Whereas evidence would be to demonstrate it actually is there. Claims are quite literally worthless on their own. Of course we accept many, many claims on a trust basis, because most of them are mundane. "I had toast this morning" is a claim. But it doesn't need evidence because it's both completely banal and also not consequential.
The more outlandish the claim, the less likely for someone to accept the claim without evidence. So in the case of my garage unicorn claim, there is no way anyone would believe me without evidence.
@@Finckelstein So if you have a claim to a fortune, then it's just a subject to you even if you have a deed.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311Stop being purposefully obtuse, you're not this fucking stupid. Words, tiny moron, can often sound the same, or even be spelled the same, and yet have completely different meanings. You're talking about a legal concept, not an assertion of a fact. Just like how the word "base" can mean "the lowest part or edge of something," "a conceptual structure or entity on which something draws or depends," and "a place used as a center of operations by the armed forces or others; a headquarters" depending on the context, the word "claim" also has different meanings.
I know you're not actually ignorant of that fact, but the only way to deal with people like you is to actually spell it out completely so your attempts to pretend to be thick don't work, and you're forced to fall back on sarcasm or outright insults.
Forrest's good day streak continues
Forrest is a very intelligent and polite gentleman. The world needs a million more like him .
Seeing as we're doing surveys, can I ask the B-thumpers how many guns you have?
My guess: it varies from room to room.
a 'peaceful messiah' who introduced hell to those who do not believe and also the end of days both as a coercion tool to scare his listeners into submission which is reminiscent of a mobster.
We don't know that anyone named "Jesus" who was the "son of God" actually existed 2,000 years ago in a small, mid-eastern country called Palestine. At that time in history there were many wandering prophets and preachers convinced that the end of the world was upon them, and probably more than a few were named Jeshua or Jesus, but regardless of what they claimed I doubt if any of them were the "son of god".
It's a good story, but there is no shortage of good stories without a shred of evidence proving they ever happened. Tell us why anything about the "Jesus" fables makes them believable, why a god should send his "only begotten son" to a primitive desert country that didn't even have the printing press, why a young Jewish girl wouldn't tell a fib about how she got pregnant, and why one individual's tortured, painful death should compensate for two millenniums of human cruelty.
Realistically, nothing about the story makes sense. Politically, it's a gold mine for anyone seeking unearned power over the gullible. I recommend that fantastically overwrought tales about the metaphysical -- when repeated with great solemnity by politicians, military leaders and greedy televangelists -- should be viewed with utmost suspicion.
all stories are sus until independent confirming evidence , and even then …
"I doubt if any of them were the "son of god"."
I would agree with that, because god is made up, it's not real.
Funnily enough, Life of Brian is a more accurate movie than the passion of the christ
False. Thee are Jewish historians among others that wrote about him. And because it made too much sense it’s deemed unreliable and or “written by someone else.” You know what they say, if the facts don’t support your claim change the facts.
@@anthonylemanski9032"if the facts don’t support your claim change the facts."
this is just what the church has been doing to the bible since it was written.
And I'll repeat what the OP said. There is no conclusive evidence that anyone by that name existed and did what is reported in the at fairy tale book.
I'm reminded of the XKCD comic strip about Sheeple.
It's number 1013 if you fancy another laugh.
😅 Yeah, but did the Sheeple ever say that he was going to return before his disciples tasted death? And then never return??? That makes Sheeple more honest than Jesus.
I love your channel Forrest!
Im feeling for Armin and Forrest because they are speaking intelligently to a guy who is so indocunated by rubbish he can only spew out garbage 😢
The one thing harder to explain than the beginning of the universe:
Why NEPy is still here and making himself look like a creep
I've destroyed you and all your asinine, lost & clueless ideas and I promise you that such will continue. I never lose.
God said his existence is known when we observe what has been made (Romans 1:20). So when we actually observe what is made, we see that all physical matter is FINITE/contiguous/DYING/losing information/decaying in disorder (entropy) to it's END/heat death. How can a DYING entity have a regress of just more DYING entities? Is there just falling dominoes forever and NEVER a prime mover to start the fall? So do we have a DYING cause? No, because there's no possibility of an INFINITE regress of the DYING/FINITE. There has to be a NON-DYING CAUSE to initiate FINITE existence. In the fall of dominoes. there has to be a prime mover & not just another preceding falling domino.
Our eternal/infinite God is easily proved. The chain of creator/created cannot only be populated only by "needy" finite links that depend on other "needy" finite links to come into existence. There must be at least one infinite "non-needy" link as prime mover/uncaused first cause/infinite G0D to start existence (the chain of creator/created).
Entropy prohibits all gain of information (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and that's why NONE OF THAT GARBAGE has ever been observed. Atheism destroyed - God proved - I'm a genius.
Oh btw, just admitting that there was a beginning of time (planck epoch) debunks your desperation that nature is INFINITE, because only in time can nature progress. Without time, you have no nature: time/matter/space/energy. You have NOTHING without time and we know FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) came into existence simultaneously, due to their correlative nature. If you have matter, but no space, WHERE would you put matter? If you have space, but no time, WHEN would you put space?
As I've even further proved, our INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL, ETERNAL GOD is required to produce FINITE NATURE, just as a set of dominoes falling; there can't be only falling dominoes; there must be a prime mover to start the fall. In other words, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Again, destroyed:
Argument from Entropy: You argue that the observation of entropy in the universe implies the need for a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move toward disorder, it does not necessarily require a supernatural prime mover to explain its effects. The concept of entropy is well understood within the framework of physics and does not imply the existence of a specific deity.
Prime Mover Argument: You invoke the Prime Mover argument, which suggests that there must be an initial, uncaused cause to start the chain of causation. However, this argument is based on philosophical assumptions and has been subject to criticism and debate. Alternative explanations for the origins of the universe exist, including naturalistic explanations that do not rely on the existence of a supernatural prime mover.
Entropy and Information Gain: You claim that entropy prohibits the gain of information, which you use to dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution. However, this oversimplifies the concept of entropy and its relationship to information. While entropy may describe the tendency of systems to become more disordered over time, it does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the gain of information through natural processes.
Nature of Time and Existence: You argue that the beginning of time implies the existence of a supernatural, eternal God. However, this is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion. The nature of time and existence at the earliest moments of the universe is still an area of active research and debate among physicists and cosmologists, and it is not appropriate to draw definitive conclusions based on current scientific understanding.
In summary, while your argument presents a philosophical perspective on the existence of God and the origins of the universe, it relies on assumptions and interpretations rather than empirical evidence. The questions of God's existence and the origins of the universe remain subjects of debate and inquiry within both religious and scientific communities. Your claim that atheism is "destroyed" and that God's existence is "proved" is not supported by the argument presented.
@@ApatheticFish3667 You're once again debunked in factual details. Are you really this stupid? The Bible is all fact. However, hell is full of intelligent fools. Maybe you're just desperate to be the boss, instead of God; so you don't want God to exist. All atheists are liars (Romans 1:20), so I refuse to ask you any questions and hope for the truth.
The "ignorant people" of 3,500 yrs ago didn't have the knowledge to write what's in the Bible. The Bible is a record of observation that's written by God himself. If you think the Bible wasn't observed and documented by God, then you are poorly educated as there is more evidence for the Bible then any other historical writings.
God wrote the Bible & used mankind to pen it. You actually think God would depend on weak stupid humans to think up and print his Word? That we'd be judged on "Judgement Day" by what men wrote and not what God wrote? God promised that he'd preserve his Word and he did (Psalm 11:6-7).
The Bible has plenty of science in it’s 66 books. It mentions the effect of a nuke on the human body, the 2nd law, the fact that God created time/space/matter/energy, that circumcision is done on the 8th day, just like doctors do today. The earth is round and the fact that the Universe is expanding:
”He alone STRETCHES OUT the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea.” Job 9:8.
” … who STRETCHES OUT the heavens like a curtain, and SPREADS THEM like a tent to live in.” - Isaiah 40:22
You have a lot to learn and you’re basically starting from abject atheist idiocy.
Let me educate you further:
Assumption of Entropy and Decay: You assert that all physical matter is finite, dying, and decaying in disorder due to entropy. While it's true that entropy describes the tendency of systems to move towards disorder, it doesn't necessarily imply that all matter is inherently dying.
>>> Yes, it doesn.
Furthermore, the concept of entropy applies to closed systems, and it doesn't necessarily apply to the universe as a whole.
>>> NO, the "system" doesn't matter and to prove it, what "system" will stop you from dying? You're debunked.
Infinite Regress Fallacy: You argue against the possibility of an infinite regress of dying or finite entities, stating that there must be a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. However, this is a misapplication of the principle of causality. While it's true that an infinite regress of causes may pose philosophical challenges, it doesn't logically necessitate the existence of a non-dying cause. Additionally, positing a non-dying cause raises further questions about the nature and attributes of such a cause.
>>> Wrong again. I've pointed out to you over & over that All life & all matter are trending in disorder towards their heat death end and that via the chain of creator/created, FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) are all NEEDY links in that chain and the chain must also have a NON-NEEDY link (God) in the chain or else the NEEDY links cannot exist. NEEDY links only lose information & heat as their chemicals react.
Prime Mover Analogy: You use the analogy of falling dominoes to illustrate the need for a prime mover to initiate the chain of causation. While this analogy is often used in cosmological arguments, it oversimplifies the complexities of causality and the nature of existence. The analogy assumes a linear, deterministic model of causation, which may not accurately reflect the nature of reality at fundamental levels.
>>> See above, because I already debunked you.
Argument from Entropy: You argue that the observation of entropy in the universe implies the need for a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move toward disorder, it does not necessarily require a supernatural prime mover to explain its effects. The concept of entropy is well understood within the framework of physics and does not imply the existence of a specific deity.
>>> Wrong. Since all matter moves into disorder, it requires an initial input of order (GENESIS). There's no escape for the atheist.
Prime Mover Argument: You invoke the Prime Mover argument, which suggests that there must be an initial, uncaused cause to start the chain of causation. However, this argument is based on philosophical assumptions and has been subject to criticism and debate. Alternative explanations for the origins of the universe exist, including naturalistic explanations that do not rely on the existence of a supernatural prime mover.
>>> A lot of words to say nothing, kid. I've pointed out to you over & over that All life & all matter are trending in disorder towards their heat death end and that via the chain of creator/created, FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) are all NEEDY links in that chain and the chain must also have a NON-NEEDY link (God) in the chain or else the NEEDY links cannot exist. NEEDY links only lose information & heat as their chemicals react.
Entropy and Information Gain: You claim that entropy prohibits the gain of information, which you use to dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution. However, this oversimplifies the concept of entropy and its relationship to information. While entropy may describe the tendency of systems to become more disordered over time, it does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the gain of information through natural processes.
Nature of Time and Existence: You argue that the beginning of time implies the existence of a supernatural, eternal God. However, this is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion.
>>> Wrong. The cause/source of "time" is required to be TIMELESS. Absorb the facts.
@@frompartsunknown687 Debunked ONCE AGAIN:
'Biblical Infallibility: You claim that the Bible is all fact and that it was written by God Himself. However, this is a theological belief rather than an empirically proven fact. The assertion that the Bible is historically accurate and divinely inspired is a matter of faith, not objective evidence.
Misuse of Scripture: Quoting Romans 1:20 to label all atheists as liars is a misinterpretation of the Bible. This verse does not specifically refer to atheists but rather to those who deny the existence of God despite the evidence present in nature. Using it to categorically dismiss all atheists as liars is an oversimplification.
Scientific Accuracy of the Bible: While the Bible may contain passages that align with scientific understanding, such as descriptions of natural phenomena, it also includes many passages that contradict scientific knowledge. Interpreting biblical passages as scientific truths requires selective cherry-picking and ignoring other verses that are inconsistent with modern science.
Entropy and Disorder: Your argument about entropy and disorder is based on a misunderstanding of thermodynamics. While entropy describes the tendency of systems to move towards disorder, it does not imply that all matter is inherently dying or decaying. Entropy is a measure of energy dispersal and does not necessarily signify an ultimate heat death of the universe.
Prime Mover Fallacy: You invoke the Prime Mover argument to suggest the necessity of a non-dying cause to initiate finite existence. However, this argument is a philosophical assertion and does not provide empirical evidence for the existence of a supernatural deity. It relies on assumptions about causality that are not universally accepted.
Misrepresentation of Scientific Theories: You dismiss scientific theories such as the Big Bang and evolution by claiming that entropy prohibits the gain of information. However, this is a misunderstanding of both entropy and the scientific principles underlying these theories. Entropy does not preclude the emergence of complexity or the evolution of life over time.
Nature of Time and Existence: Your argument that the beginning of time implies the existence of a timeless God is a philosophical interpretation rather than a scientific conclusion. While it's true that the origin of time raises profound questions about the nature of existence, attributing it to a supernatural deity is a matter of belief rather than empirical evidence.
In summary, your arguments rely on theological assertions, misinterpretations of scientific concepts, and logical fallacies. They do not provide compelling evidence for the existence of a supernatural deity or the infallibility of religious texts like the Bible.
@@frompartsunknown687 Your incorrect understanding of thermodynamics doesn't count as an argument. Your "look, things decay, so that must be god" makes no sense. This is ALL just fiction you created UNSUPPORTED by the Bible. You are making up a LOT of fanfic just from a verse that says that your god stretched out the heavens. If you would BOTHER to look at the Hebrew, you would know that interpretation is a... stretch.
you have SO much fallacious arguments to share, why do you run from calling in or debating for real? Hmmm? Are you THAT scared?
Your cowardice means that you LOSE all these interactions BY DEFAULT.
I just want to thank the Christian trolls for repeatedly demonstrating that their preaching is counterproductive.
It's just as much appreciated by us nonchristian theists as it is the atheists.
Thank you ❤❤❤
He could go on Bart’s blog and argue with Bart directly. ;-)
Well if he replicated his "only my interpretation is right" attitude with Bart he probably got crucified then blocked
Wow Armin. I gave an some of his other videos. But as historian I really enjoyed and appreciated what he brought to the table on this one.
Why I'm not afraid of hell:
A) God won't send me to hell
B) If god sends me to hell, I'll get to spend eternity laughing at NEPy.
What do you mean by hell? Because the Bible is full of contradictory description of hell.
Matthew 10:28 says that your body and soul can be destroyed in hell. But then later, in Matthew 25:46, Jesus says that if you weren't charitable to the needy, you will be eternally punished. Which is it? Are you destroyed or eternally punished in hell?
Apparently the Bible actually subscribes to the Greek concept of Hades, as opposed to the Jewish concept of hell in the old testament. But then the Bible contradicts itself by saying that it's a lake of fire. Which is it?
Revelations 20:13-14 talk about everyone being judged for what they did to determine whether you go to hell, but then in the Pauline section, what you did doesn't matter, since you just need to accept Jesus. Hmmm... how contradictory.
And according to the Bible, DEATH as well as Hades are thrown into the lake of fire! How nonsensical.
It's almost as if NO ONE actually knows what hell is like, so the authors of the Bible just made things up with flowery allegories and whatever was available in the Greco-Roman culture. 🤔
...sounds like confusion???
If their God is as just as they claim he is, then hell would be empty.
@aBJJKickboxing More fun than worshipping a god I hate for all eternity. Also, I hear there's alcohol and drugs in hell, so hail Satan!
@@queuecee We only have the Bible and thousands of NDE testimonies to know about hell. Some people say “WE LIVE ONCE!” Yes and you die once also. And you’ll be dead for a longgggg time. 100 trillion yrs and you’ll still be dead. But hey, we don’t really die; we just change locations. God kills us all at some point:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” - Hebrews 9:27
And if you don’t understand eternity now, you’ll understand it then. You arrive in hell (if you die sealed in your sin) the moment you die w/ your last gasp and your temporary free will expired. THEN you will wish 100+ trillion times that you had never been born. IMMEDIATELY you know you’re in hell, because the heat is much too hot for life. The stench is far worse than dozens of open sewers & the sulfuric smell is toxic. But you’ve taken God for granted and without his grace, you’re in hell now FOREVER. And the most horrible mental torture you bear in hell is that you know you will never get out.
On earth, you can breathe, be comforted, eat, smell fragrances, enjoy relationships, sleep, daydream, walk around in freedom, watch entertainment, go swimming and enjoy the things God has provided. But in hell NONE of that is possible. To add some more, there will be no comforts in hell, such as communication, a fresh breath of air, relaxation, quiet, room temperature, calm, water, freedom from predators, food. On top of that, demons will torture you. Whatever sin you committed on earth, you will be grouped w/ those people and tormented by demons FOREVER that actually get high on your pain. If you’re not screaming loud enough, demons come to you to fix it.
@@sineaddwanson9294 How funny that you went from "millions" of NDE testimonies to "thousands".😂😂
Anyway, provide even five NDE testimonies about hell. There's only that one debunked guy that's making money off of his dishonest description. Who else? And can you provide any from non-Christians from non-Western nations? I'll bet they'll have a VERY different description.
Peaceful Jesus- " Whoever doesn't have a sword should sell his robe and buy one." (Luke 22:36)
"Whoever lives by the sword dies by the sword," - [Matthew 26:52.]
Damn I guess Jesus lived everyday really cross then.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311So the gospels contradict each other? Got it!
What about the other people that mentioned Jesus’ command to cause division, says he HAS NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD, and that people who don’t worship him should be slain?
Are you going to keep ignoring that?
@@NotALiberalSoSkipTheScript Are you literally stalking me?
I'll pass on wearing a dress like jesus 😎
This guy Mikael doesn't seem to understand that every generation claims the end is near and will come in their lifetime. 👍💙💙💙🥰✌
Too bad jesus did it.😂.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311
Oh, so the end only applied to this Jesus fellow and not everyone. We can all go back to ignoring Christian claims then
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311except he hasn't or christers wouldn't believe we are in the end times
Well it’s seems the pressure of hitting 64 days of failing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings is really starting to bend the “theists” out of shape.
But they e come no closer to breaking their losing streak.
This whole thing was deeply disturbing
According to neppy if you've never heard of this Jesus character you don't go to hell.
It looks like he hasn't thought about the implications of his preaching or what that really says about Christianity
And he talks as if he's sure what his God would do. It's almost as if he's just making up what his God would do. Or does his God take orders from him? 🤔
@@queuecee ACCORDING to JESUS CHRIST,
the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
as written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
ACCORDING to SATAN the DEVIL,
the Creator is cruel, merciless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
in his hatred and mockeries of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3.
ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS
who deliberately joined Satan the Devil in dishonoring and insulting the Creator as cruel, merciless and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
are clearly
the arrogant, merciless, and deceitful mockers and haters of the Creator and Jesus Christ on earth
who
are obviously hurt and offended by the TRUTH
that
the SUBMISSIVENESS of lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth to the authority of Jesus Christ and OBEDIENCE to his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will
definitely bring them honor and the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful Earth without arrogant, cruel, and merciless persons, without liars, slanderers, traitors and murderers
as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.
All Atheists and Christians
can't evade the TRUTH that their Satanic hatred, mockeries, OPPOSITION and DEFIANCE of the authorities, will, teachings, and instructions of the Creator and his Christ
will
definitely bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall, and turning into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths
while
LOVING, KIND, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time,
the Creator will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life
so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, Jesus Christ
as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854TL;DR
@@jaflenbond7854DERPburger
Why?@@jaflenbond7854
Preachers gotta grift for followers and wealth.. he already doesn’t qualify as the messiah so he needs another angle..
Armin. huge mistake by flopping around different parts the gospels. These believers ALWAYS will say that another part of the bible has a different context, but if just literally read 1 verse down from the callers reference, Matthew 24:37 "As it was in the day of Noah, so it will be in the coming of the Son of Man." Literally an apocalyptic reference. They love just cherry picking specific verses, then completely ignoring the context.
Weren't the days of Noah choc full of incest and liquor? What's that got to do with the apocalypse? On a more serious note, I think there's a difference between the end of the world and the drowning of most life. life could obviously return to the earth, once the waters receded; not sure that's the case, post-apocalypto ...I don't really care about fairy tales one way or another, but I'd challenge your supposed "direct" apocalyptic reference...especially when levelled against someone who, as you indicated, is unlikely to be arguing honestly in the first place...just sayin'
@@TheSnoeedog Why are you challenging my reference when it wasn't MY reference lmao. It's the Bible making the reference.
@@sixofsix "As it was in the day of Noah, so it will be in the coming of the Son of Man." *Literally an apocalyptic reference.*
I was cheekily pointing out that "the time of Noah" is not *LITERALLY* an apocalyptic reference. What it is, is *literally* an allusion to which you are choosing to ascribe apocalyptic characteristics. "The time of Noah" could *literally* refer to 12:57 on some idle Tuesday where he was sleeping one off.
....So I'm very much challenging *YOUR* reference, inasmuch as you've failed to use the biblical reference correctly/accurately. I furthermore articulated that there is a vast chasm between drowning *most* things, *AND THE APOCALYPSE,* with all of its characteristic *TOTAL* global extermination, cataclysmic tumult, etc...
live well
@@TheSnoeedog you're right.
✌@@sixofsix
1.21 Gigawatts is fond of writing out epistemological checks that he can't cash.
He's really going all in on the presup routine
Childish
No, why would it?
Lol, you went out to get my attention, not vice versa. 🤣
So you're doing these childish antics to make me lose interest in countering your nonsensical bs? That it?
FloridaBBJKickboxing, 5 hours ago (on Daskippa's "I hate God" thread below): "I’ll debate anyone!
I work nights, so anytime on my schedule after hours EST!
I know those goofy demons in you are scared, & they better be!
Amen! 💪"
Quecee's reply: "This should be fun. I'll find a way to let everyone know how to listen in. And even ask questions."
So come on, Florida, what's the hold-up? This is your chance! 🤔
That was clumsy of flojo, he usually waits until Que's off line to issue his challenge
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED you say a lot of things, but I've yet to see a post with your number
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED That explains why you run away each time your whines get answered.
This is like nerds arguing who’s nicer - Superman or Batman.
Not even remotely similar. That's just your own frame of reference because you don't get the topic, so you've dumbed it down in order to process it.
@@Sundae_Times😂😂😂💀 wtf!
@@Sundae_Times I'm not upset. I've just never read such an overt rendering of the conversational tropes exhibited by individuals like @tolkar273. Just enjoying my Saturday morning here.
Nope it's more like arguing who's nicer, batman or the joker
For the algorithm! ✌🏼
@larrycraddock3063 really misses the good old days. He really longs for the time way back when the inquisitions were cool and he and his friends were allowed to torture anybody who dared raise a quizzical eyebrow in response to his claims that the tribal war g0d of one particular tribe of bronze age desert nomads was actually real. He didn't mind the Salem Witch Trials either.
Too bad for larry that nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Amarican Christians,.....you gotta lov them..😅😅😅
I feel love.
They are the more whinny then most, as most in other countries just do their thing and don't feel the need to advertise it so loudly.
They are the worst
@@WarMonkeyOG True 😅
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Morning. You just missed all the threads from @1.21gigowatts showing his proof that he wears women's lingerie to give his "service" at the back of truck stops. He got embarrassed and deleted all his threads.
Good Sunday evening, love and respect from blighty
@@queuecee I'm shocked that he deleted that entire thread from yesterday that had about 150 comments on it. Is there any point in engaging with that dude just to see our efforts go up in flames?
@@Sundae_TimesMost of us have taken to starting our own threads* to laugh at him instead of engaging him directly. It's funny to see him scramble for attention. He posted at least half a dozen threads this morning before deleting them all.
* with blackjack! And hookers!
@@Sundae_TimesYeah. Don't contribute to his thread. If you have a response, do it in a new thread that someone else has started to respond or create a new thread yourself.
That way, even if he deletes his posts, your comments will remain.
His whole shtick is to get you to respond in his thread and then "wave" them away by deleting the thread. Don't take his bait.
Apparently 1.21 Gigawatts doesn't know what a factual claim is, or is pretending not to for the purpose of trolling.
Trolling doesn't do Religion any favors regardless.
Poe's law - parody (or in this case trolling) can be indistinguishable from genuine lunacy and absurdity.
This is the guy who asked you to say you’re done talking so he knows when to talk
Guilty as charge.😂.
Also note that circular reasoning is not technically invalid. All it means to say that an argument is valid is that IF the premises were true, the conclusion would logically follow- IOW the conclusion would ALSO be true. And "A therefore A" is definitely valid in that sense. But a circular argument is an informal fallacy because it 'works' by assuming the truth of the very thing the argument is supposed to demonstrate!
"Extraordinary claims"- 1.21 Gigawatts: keeps using that term. In their hands, it is a term of trollish sophistry that has no actual meaning other than, "I want to put you on the defensive."
DNA and its origins are a matter of scientific study. If 1.21 Gigawatts has feedback to provide on the science, why don't they do that in the arena of scientific research and debate instead of in the comment section of an atheist YT channel?
Note most of his list is "you didn't accept my flawed logic! What an extraordinary claim!"
@@amtlpaulIf anything DNA proves evolution as it is a link to every preceding creature.
And that's not even addressing that DNA is full of errors and is a primitive system for passing along information.
If a God or gods did it, there'd be no need for DNA or perhaps there would be multiple unrelated methods
@@amtlpaul There's actually quite a bit of research in the evolution of DNA and RNA polymers in the primordial earth. It's very likely that DNA came about MUCH later than RNA. And there's been pretty good research demonstrating that RNA can generate random sequences and from these random sequences, it's possible to get enzymatic ribozymes that can catalyze replication.
He's like a toddler with a new toy. He'll take it everywhere, even if it doesn't belong.
When we have claims of divine revelation, we have to consider different possible explanations of what's going on. One can make a rational case that the evidence supports one to the exclusion of all others, but that requires presenting the evidence and showing that it unambiguously points to the one explanation rather than the others.
Divine revelation is irrelevant until someone PROVES there is something out there that is both divine AND caused a revelation..
The fact that EVERY religion has claims of divine revelation implies that if all other religions are false, then all other divine revelations are also false, and if so many are false, the odds are that the Bible god beliefs are also false... and shows that divine revelation cannot be used to PROVE any religion....
Giggles still hadn't figured out why his argument is circular, despite it being spelled out to him a dozen times. Maybe he should reread the older threads... Oh, wait... 🤣
Neppy confuses the words 'equivalent' and 'equivocation' in their latest bit of nonsense.
He Soso thinks being wrong for fifty years means he knows what he's talking about. 🤣
So when's the live debate happening, Nepy?
He's run away so much, I don't think he'll ever agree. I've destroyed his shoddy cosmological argument, pointed out the absolute idiocy by saying causes can't be finite, and his idea that an intelligent god is needed to create something from nothing, especially since he has such a limited understanding of nothing.
So, I think he'll be too scared to agree to a real debate when he can't do anything in the comments except "nuh-uh". But I would LOVE to laugh directly at his claim that he's been doing this, SO badly, for FIFTY years. And I would get him to confess that he's never had a real debate before.
NEPy. Pro tip. If you are going to run away from real debates, don't go around claiming that you've defeated every atheist or that you run this channel.
The level of humiliation that you've brought on yourself is ALL because of your lying bluster.
@ Liar. I've easily destroyed every atheist on these threads - especially you and to prove it, you're not going to present the details as to how you beat me. I always win and everybody knows it. Fact sting LOL
Let me (Dr. Powers) be clear. I TOTALLY DOMINATE this channel for yrs now, because I’m blessed by God. And by the will of God, I know more than you, type better than you, fight/work harder than you and am anointed to win any debate on these threads against any atheist that comes my way. That’s only going to continue for yrs to come. So you can either fight me and lose or you can take advantage of my knowledge to learn the truth (God, Creation, The Bible). But in the meantime I'm going to TOTALLY DOMINATE this channel for yrs to come and guess what? There's nothing anybody can do about it :)
@@frompartsunknown687 I asked for a time and date, mate, not your life story.
@@frompartsunknown687I don't know if you've noticed but nobody here takes you seriously.
In fact posts like yours make Christians look stupid and make atheism the only logical position
bro the face Seth makes when Forrest says "never had a bad day"😂😂😂😂
Its amazing when seth reacts to forrest' "I've never have a bad day.."
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
Luke 19:27
JC said that.
think it said hitler not hither didnt it? lol
An edit on this post. BJ provided his contact, I think due to the backlash, he tried a bit harder to provide his number. I texted back and forth with him, and it looks like he misunderstood and took this comment to mean that I declined the debate: 🤷♂
"@FloridaBJJKickboxing And we don't need to exchange phone numbers. We'll do this on a public platform."
I don't know why he immediately sent out the inflammatory reply without even responding to my request for the dates, but that's water under the bridge. The bottom line is we will try to make arrangements to have this real, voice debate. It'll be recorded and I'll make sure to include the debate in its entirety so that there's no contentions about what was actually discussed.
Despite this unfortunate incident, I commend BJ for at least being willing to have this debate, unlike some Christian trolls that I know... So we'll see if this actually happens.
The below is the content of what led to this hoopla.
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@SundaeExpress had challenged FloridaBJ to debate me, and he surprisingly accepted, unlike some of the theist trolls here.
So I told BJ:
"@FloridaBJJKickboxing OK. Give me some dates and times when you are available."
But instead of replying with the dates and times, here's what he said:
"I challenged you to a one-on-one, man-to-man debate, & you declined!
So don’t go around acting all tough like you’re ready to debate people when you’re not!!!
If you muster up the courage, you know where to find me! 👍"
He never responded to me prior to that message, to the point that @SundaeExpress wrote:
"@FloridaBJJKickboxing Why haven't you answered Quecee? You said you'll "debate anyone any time after hours EST", so here's your chance!"
and
"@FloridaBJJKickboxing Oh dear, you've run away again. You're a liar and a coward."
You can judge who's the liar here. But I brought the receipts and I told BJ to quote me where I declined him. He obviously will fail.
Yes, I must admit I've been watching with my jaw on the floor. It's amazing to see a so-called man of God telling such blatant untruths! 👀
@@ChristOnABike1 He constantly posts Bible verses and pretends that he has some higher morality.
He REALLY demonstrated how awful the Christian trolls on here are. I guess maybe the other trolls should thank BJ. Now we know which of them is the most blatantly dishonest hypocrite.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Yes, he will. But will you, er, answer the call?
@FloridaBJJKickboxing That way you don't have to put your number in the comments. And you don't have to pretend you posted it and deleted it after a while.
Not that you would do something so dishonest. 🙄
Flojo messed up, he usually posts his debate challenge when he's sure you're off-line. Now he's trying to cover his cowardice.
The 'logic' that 1.21 Gigawatts has 'demonstrated' is: "It's just true, ok? Just take my word for it!" Sorry, no.
What's up with such obvious blatant lying from these trolls? They absolutely don't care that they are just lying through their teeth. Gigolo and BJ, but so many others.
Giggawatts thinks that him declaring that something is proved means that it is. Ofc that is incorrect!
I literally proved that his God doesn't exist. Why doesn't he accept logic?
Obviously God doesn't exist, because I demonstrates that the god-devouring dragon, who eats all gods before they can give divine revelation, exists.
1 21 Gigawatts is still trying to pretend that "A therefore A" counts as a deductive argument for A. No, it doesn't- not when A is the very matter under dispute!
1.3 Giggle twat is really getting desperate as no one is responding to HER.
@t800fantasm2 Yep. Their outright lying that atheists reject deductive reasoning is a pretty good sign of their desperation.
But what's strange is that he wants to keep his fallacious NOT deductive reasoning, even when it leads to the "proof" that he wears women's lingerie to sometimes go "service" truckers at the back of truck stops. 😬 He's really committed to the fallacy.
Akhmed and Jeremy: y’all rock.
Gigolo's extraordinary claim: "I proved the existence of god, both inductively and deductively (it's so easy when I can just declare that premises are just true because I said so). No one else in human history was able to do it, but I did it using my "logic". But these mean atheists won't believe me!😭😭😭 Boo, hoo, hoo! Now my shift is starting and I have to go to the back of the truck stops."
Thanks AXP!
Thou rocketh!
Forrest tried his darndest to derail this conversation. Good thing Armin was there
He literally “said” “the end days are coming, be prepared” all. The. Time.
Where?
He LITERALLY said it's coming before his disciples have tasted death.
Spoiler: They. All. Tasted. Death.
@@queuecee Cool, quote the verse.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 It's in Matthew 16:28 "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
And what does this mean? In Matthew 25:31-32 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats."
In before some Christian comes with their _ad hoc_ explanation that "Son of Man" already came in his kingdom when he was on the Mount of Transfiguration. And YET, NOWHERE does it mention the angels. There's no sitting on the throne. And no all nations gathered before him and him separating them one from another.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311Matthew 16:28
FIRST: Thank you, Forrest, not just for your integrity, but for pointing out the power dynamic problem with the story of Mary's pregnancy. I've tried to stress this issue with several people and most are far better at understanding this dynamic than the caller, even though they disagree with my characterization.
I don't think Bart Ehrman claimed that Jesus was saying the end was coming *next week,* as the caller claimed. I've not listened to everything Bart has stated, so I guess this is another "Citation Needed" moment.
Also, it feels like this caller was less making an argument or having a conversation, but just waiting to assert his claims; as if he wanted to preach, not discuss. Plus he keeps making these comments about his imaginary interlocutors, asserting strawman positions about atheists and other non-Christians.
1:37 "Forgive me brother: I'm on the clock! What is your question?" 😂 I love Seth.
Well 68 days have come and gone since counting began and nobody has been able to provide a single convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings.
The lies of atheism cannot be EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution).
ONLY TRUE NATURE can be EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine).
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@@frompartsunknown687" The lies of atheism "
What lies ass-wipe? The ones YOU made up?
You are a pathetic lying LOSER.
Bravely bold Sir NEPPY
Rode forth from his basement.
He was not afraid to lose,
Oh brave Sir NEPPY.
He was not at all afraid
To be shamed in silly ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir NEPPY.
He was not in the least bit scared
To be laughed at in public.
Or to have his brain flayed out,
And his logic broken.
To have his fallacies split
And his self esteem burned away,
And his credibility all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir NEPPY.
His lies smashed in
And his hatred cut out
And his logic removed
And his banality unplugged
And his nonsense raped
And his rebuttals burnt off
And his penis (Phallusees?)
"That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot."
Brave Sir NEPPY ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When logic reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir NEPPY turned about
from the debate he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir NEPPY!
@@frompartsunknown687"OBSERVABLE"? So we can go observe Jesus get crucified and rise from the dead?
Or do you mean, we can read a story about it, written by cultists who weren't there and never observed it either?
Exactly what "OBSERVABLE evidence" did you provide?
I challenged "wave away" to prove their claim or lie and say, "asked and answered". Their response was to lie and say "asked and answered" I challenged them to prove me wrong about calling them a liar and present their best/strongest evidence or prove themselves to be a lying hypocritical coward by engaging in claim and blame. Their response was to call me a liar and calling me arrogant. In other words, they claimed and blamed.
Are they the biggest lying hypocritical cowards in this section? Discuss.
Wow, possibly, though he faces some stiff competition!
@@amtlpaul Yeah, on a good day Neppy is pretty bonkers, LOLOL
Maybe he answered in some posts from the past few days. He can just tell us which posts from the past he "answered" the questions that were "asked". Right?
If by some weird technical issue, his comments got deleted, then he will need to give those answers again, unfortunately. 😂
@@queuecee "If my some weird technical issue, his comments got deleted, ..."
Yeah, they "accidently" pressed the delete button over and over and over and over and......
Yeah he tried that moronic "asked and answered" with me and proved to everyone he was a lying dishonest troll with mental issues....
The best thing about lying trolls is we all know, that if they have to lie, then they truly have NOTHING!
“I just wanna state that jesus wasn’t with ISIS”
that had me dying lmao
17:12
also Armin’s face when the caller said “maybe you could grow back your hair”
💀
19:34
I WISH that when some of the theists make the EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM that SCIENCE fully supports their bare statements that they would show some ACTUAL science, such as citations and research. Instead of just some vague _post facto_ justifications to say that trees or DNA means god.
God said his existence is known when we observe what has been made (Romans 1:20). So when we actually observe what is made, we see that all physical matter is FINITE/contiguous/DYING/losing information/decaying in disorder (entropy) to it's END/heat death. How can a DYING entity have a regress of just more DYING entities? Is there just falling dominoes forever and NEVER a prime mover to start the fall? So do we have a DYING cause? No, because there's no possibility of an INFINITE regress of the DYING/FINITE. There has to be a NON-DYING CAUSE to initiate FINITE existence. In the fall of dominoes. there has to be a prime mover & not just another preceding falling domino.
Our eternal/infinite God is easily proved. The chain of creator/created cannot only be populated only by "needy" finite links that depend on other "needy" finite links to come into existence. There must be at least one infinite "non-needy" link as prime mover/uncaused first cause/infinite G0D to start existence (the chain of creator/created).
Entropy prohibits all gain of information (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and that's why NONE OF THAT GARBAGE has ever been observed. Atheism destroyed - God proved - I'm a genius.
Oh btw, just admitting that there was a beginning of time (planck epoch) debunks your desperation that nature is INFINITE, because only in time can nature progress. Without time, you have no nature: time/matter/space/energy. You have NOTHING without time and we know FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) came into existence simultaneously, due to their correlative nature. If you have matter, but no space, WHERE would you put matter? If you have space, but no time, WHEN would you put space?
As I've even further proved, our INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL, ETERNAL GOD is required to produce FINITE NATURE, just as a set of dominoes falling; there can't be only falling dominoes; there must be a prime mover to start the fall. In other words, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Look trees, look entropy, look things die, that must mean god.
The reason that entropy is increasing, according to you, is because of the NON-DYING CAUSE. Because your god is weak.
So what would have happened if only a FINITE cause started everything? Oh, the same thing. Great.
Achmed and Jeremy😂❤
my favorite three all in one. jk all the hosts are my favorite ❤️
Don’t be a fool! These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
@@wrencestondwanson3437projection
Again 1.21 Gigawatts is under the misapprehension that declaring that something is proven is sufficient. It ain't, not by a long shot.
Notice that he actually admits that all he has is a "valid" logic. He can't bring himself to make up the lie that it's a sound logic. Probably because he's so ignorant that he doesn't understand that.
A deductive argument has to be valid and sound, and he wants to pretend that he knows "logic".😂😂😂
@@queueceeHe read your post and edited his to claim his logic is sound. Not that he knows the difference.
But he still hasn't answered Apathetic Fish's question.
@@Beacon80 Yeah he edited it so that it now becomes a lie. And he doesn't care.
@@queueceeWell, I don't call him Giggles the Liar because he's so well rested. 😁
- the song THE WIZARD/Black Sabbath
Funny they played that in my pub last night... was enjoying it...
Cool song, I think warpigs was their best track
@@joshsheridan9511Yeah, Warpigs was great... I have a rally cool video of my son playing guitar on it at an open jam at one of our local bars...
@@joshsheridan9511 - A NATIONAL ACROBAT as mine the track in that to Ozzy
Giggles doesn't know the difference between "you can think of it as a code" and it is a code.
They can't acknowledge any such difference, any more than they can acknowledge a distinction between 'looks designed to me' and 'somebody designed it'..
It's as bad as the idiots who think DNA is a digital code...
Of course he also throws in a strawman for good measures. He claims that atheists (not scientists for some reason) say DNA "code" was "coded" by nothing.
I don't remember saying that. You?
@@queueceeI mean, I started calling him Giggles the Liar because he's constantly insisting people said things they never said.
If an atheist mentions that the sun will rise tomorrow, a theist will find a way to argue with them.
@@sideboob6851 Apparently god is moving the sun across the sky by putting it on his chariots of fire. 😅
@@sideboob6851 Yeah, such a great addition to the cotery of trolls on this channel. And he's soooo witty in his retorts.🙄
Well, at least he's up front about his necropolis. 🤷♂️ So he's not into kink shaming. So I'm sure he's willing to come out about his coprophilia and who knows what else.😬
@@RodneyR-kx9nkOh, I'm sorry. Did I hit a nerve by bringing up your kink? So you have coprophobia, a negative fascination with feces. I'm sure your obsession is treatable, with the kind of witty banter you are able to hold here, you are obviously very mentally equipped to take of your obsessions.
Now hit me with your best worn out juvenile playground insults. What you gonna do? Respond with, "no, you"?
@@sideboob6851 He seems to have some strange fascinations. Fortunately, he's not too smart. He didn't know what coprophilia was, so he had to look it up. 😂 You can tell because he copy pasted it. That's why it's capitalized in the middle of the sentence. 😂
I'm an Atheist but can't contribute to that debate, as I live in the West Midlands, where we rarely get to see the Sun.
Apparently Giggles think his circular reasoning is some how logical
His arguments are easy to wave away.
I grabbed screen captures of that, because that's just a thing of beauty.
People insisting 2 things can't be true at the same time. I still can't tell if it's an inability, or just seems like an inability.
2 _contradictory_ things.
@@nealjroberts4050 ok ok ... People insisting 2 things are contradictory when they're not is an inability or just seems like an inability. Better?
Jesus himself said..
I've not come to bring peace but a sword...
The caller is in the comments. He didn’t know that. Now that he’s been told he doesn’t care.
When he was told about the Spanish Inquisition he said “do you think Jesus was Spanish” showing he simply doesn’t have the brains to understand what he’s talking about.
It's endlessly entertaining when apologists insist they can debunk science, but can't even describe it without resorting to Strawmen.
Straw science is all they can cope with
If they didn't have strawmen, they'd have nothing
@joshsheridan9511 No. They have quite a bit besides strawman. They have circular reasoning, personal incredulity, ad hominem, equivocation, sheer dishonesty, pure ignorance, etc. They have a LOT!
This reminds me of this vid I saw once about this preacher who said the end is near, and all who got there were so happy that the hell was over.
Me, I agree, come soon, end of times.
He said nobody knows but the father. Also said that it would happen before some of the apostles died. Contradictions, contradictions
The debackle about Forrest's name might be cause he didnt understand that Forrest was his FIRST name, since he said "Mr. Forrest which usually point to the last name of a person with that honorific
Giggles the Liar returns to demonstrate how much he enjoys lying.
The fictional character Jesus took a whip to the money lenders. That's violent.
Because they are the children of Satan.
1.21 Gigawatts made the clam that "Atheists say you have to break the rules of reality in order to make an argument."
I don't know what atheists he's referring to, but I suspect they are imaginary. That claim doesn't make any sense to me. But then, the same is true of a lot of Giggles' garbled claims.
Did he already give up?
I wonder if he realized the obvious logical error in his "argument". Or maybe he got frustrated with the lack of replies in his thread.
Or maybe he wanted to delete his posts before his shift at the back of the truck stop in his lingerie. 😂
@@queueceeAlmost certainly the latter. Explaining the obvious flaw to him in length isn't enough. As simple as it is, he'll never figure it out on his own.
Seth is great.
I say call me anything you want except late for dinner. 😊
12 men who left their families to follow Jesus, in sandals, and toga, more clearly explains why Jesus brought his sword 😆😂
It's certainly interesting that one could read a particular interpretation in the text 😉