This teaching will benefit those who are already curious in this direction. If THIS isn't you, it is quite possible that you may not fully comprehend what God is doing through Apostle right now. Let others be able to receive this "engrafted word with meekness" (James 1:31) for the salvation of their souls. May God dare us closer to him in Jesus' name. Amen
The apostle is missing some crucial doctrines that will damn some souls. He's trying but he excludes some keys things. Its dangerous. Ask the HS for insight.
Souls are saved by Faith In Jesus, not by their knowledge of The location of Paradise. The knowledge or ignorance of this poses no threat to my faith, it only broadens my understanding.
@@melchizedek79So why haven't you shared the insights? You can't say something is missing then not share. Do you doubt that Apostle Arome Osayi is a seasoned man of God? You doubt He is not led by the Holy Spirit? Yes he can have mistakes but where is your Take? Sorry it's hard to take your response seriously
Many yrs ago I'd a vision of the 3angels to proclaim rapture & I was terrified that out of my mom's household (children&grand children), only 5persons were to b saved as at that time. After thatI'd another vision where we were shouting that the time of our Savior JESUS Christ has come. There was heavy rain with white stones dropping from the sky. Some great buildings were crumbling while some remained up. After the storm I realised that my late father resurected though looking younger& I was happy but I was worried that my late maternal grand father never resurected. I was looking for him anxiously but I couldn't see him. Then I woke up. Glory be to God in the highest amen. Following with faith from Southern Cameron Africa. Amen.
This hast been my most confused question in the scripture, yet different preachers has given their own opinion but you (apostle arome osayi) has really given the revelation of truth. God bless you sir
Exactly. I heard a preaching saying its used to be paradise until Jesus died and resurrected and he set the captives free and they raptured with Him. That was in the Abrahams blossom
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222, which means you didn't get his explanation about the word translated 'caught up. you can still watch the video if you missed that part.
@@henryakoje9284 : He talked about "caught up"(rapture). Where he said the body in heaven is downloaded and will locate you were you are. And once you put that on, Hades won't be able to keep you." Is that what you are talking about??
@@henryakoje9284 : I have other scriptures that disagree with him. For instance, why did the persecuted saints appear under the altar in the presence of God's throne at the opening of the 5th seal. I mean, that tells you they were in HEAVEN waiting?? God Himself sitting on the throne told them to wait. Hades was clearly a spirit(a fallen spirit) that was riding behind death, and so will be cast into the lake of fire. At the opening of the 4th seal, this was revealed. To put a person in Hades is to put the person in the custody of that spirit. This is impossible because the book of Revelation clearly calls Paradise "The paradise of my God". So, the government running the paradise is different from the government running hades(which is a fallen spirit). Though Christ is head over all principalities, even hades. But Christ clearly runs paradise directly. He doesn't share it with anyone. My point is that, the scripture about the Third HEAVEN is very accurate because it is telling us which government is running the place called "Paradise". It is the sole presence of God's governance or pleasing and perfect will in a place that makes the place "Heaven". Moreover, the unprofitable servant was condemned. The outer darkness is the darkness outside the kingdom of LIGHT.
I completely agree with you that is how I understand it. During the resurrection the Paradise was transferred from the belly of the Earth to third Heaven as some saints were seen walking in Israel. Most importantly Isaiah 61 explains this phenomenon in much detail. However, the apostle explains the scriptures very well and vivid I have actually learnt much and it was interesting as well. Another point is that Hell is made up of different compartments and Jewish oral traditions points that Hell has got 7 compartments one after the other like the sky scraper, abyss is the lowest compartment of the Hell.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@Ajiboye Adeleye : My brother, I don't disagree that it is a waiting place for now. I don't even disagree that it was in the "heart of the earth"(not "Hades") up until the death and ressurection of Jesus. But where I disagree is that it is currently in Hades. I m not claiming to have all the revelations on this scripture. God is still teaching me as I go. But for where I am at the moment, I see it clearly in heaven not Hades. But as the Lord enlightens me further, if it proves otherwise I will be public about it. If you want more details I will give you details, showing that paradise does infact move and change locations.
@@kemijohnson3653 : Look at where the tribulation saints are in the book of revelation 7:9. They are the full number of brethren that were to be killed according to Rev 6:11. Off ourse, being that the same persecution killed them, it is safe to say they would be in the same place. Before the THRONE of God and the Lamb. Now unless a person believes in a PRETRIBULATION rapture(which is not biblical), I don't see how they can think these people are in Hades.
May God strengthen prophet Osayi as he struggles to run the straight race wth God almighty but faces attacks frm charlatans of miracle money.God forbid!! Jesus said a wicked generation looks for miracles.....Prayers for prophet Osayi from Southern Cameron Africa. Amen.
I love Apostle Arome Osayi and what the Lord is using him to do all around the world and his stand on purity and righteousness. I pray that God continue to prosper his ministry. WHERE TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL GO AFTER DEATH. I believe the scriptures will give more insight to this. I will endeavour to give us some scriptures that stated categorically where true believers will go when they die: APOSTLE PAUL STATEMENTS OF FACTS: Philippians 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is far better.(Emphasis mine). 2 Corinthians 5:6, 8 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD.( Emphasis mine). EVIDENCE FROM JESUS STATEMENT John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. THE FIRST CHRISTIAN MARTYR GAVE A GOOD INSIGHT TO THIS: Acts 7:55,56, 59 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit It's very clear from these scriptures that when a true Christian die, he/she goes to where Jesus is. Though some may extrapolate that our Lord Jesus is omni- present, hence His ability to be both at the right hand of God and paradise down below. But this speculative in a sense. We may ask, where is Jesus now? At the right hand of God as Stephen saw, testified and prayed to be received there. It is quite important that we do not speculate with scriptures as it is exact with these information and also not mix old testament dispensation with the new testament dispensation. That's why Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise". Paradise(παράδεισος-paradeisos: enclosed garden, heaven) and heaven(οὐρανός-ouranos: heaven) in this case are synonymous.
The question is whether they are going to be with Him immediately after death or after a waiting period especially if paradise and heaven are two different things.
@@melchizedek79 Jesus specifically stated when this will be: Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, TODAY (Emphasis mine) shalt thou be with me in paradise. Today, meaning the same day they died, their destination will be determined; either heaven or hell. The writer of Hebrews elaborated how this will be: Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men ONCE TO DIE(Emphasis mine), but AFTER THIS(Emphasis mine) the judgment: This means in collaboration with Jesus statement of fact that the same day of death, there will be judgement for those that die before rapture as a prerequisite to passage the same day to their abode; either to be with Jesus or hell. Hebrews elaborated what happens the same day of death; between the time of death and the destination of the person that died. There is no waiting time as Jesus categorically stated it's the same day the person's destination will be determined by judgement according to Hebrews 9:27 One death, one judgement before one destination determined by judgement. This verse in Hebrews stated it's an APPOINTMENT and that one appointment, no waiting and like Clarke commentary put it: no metempsychosis, no transmigration from body to body; Scriptures explains itself. There is not room for speculative teachings.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
🔥🔥🔥MOUNT OF TRANSFIGURATION 🔥🔥🔥🔥Moses and Elijah came from above to meet Jesus and three desciples. Also He rose and led the freed captives to heaven { ascended) God bless apostle Osayi🙏
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@barryoghagbon3917 Lol... that's called hero worship. They are afraid to disagree even when the Bible is clear. Paul rebuked Peter, even when Peter was the leader of the church and apostles.
@@timothybolofinde1987 : There are many of them. I m talking about the key people that God used to spark REVIVALS after the church was planted by the 12. John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield... I m talking about the key revivalists in church history who taught that we go to HEAVEN when we die.
I thought Matthew 25 was referring to those who waiting and are wise to remain in their salvation plan, because there will be a slight delay, {*} the lamb is the son of man which is the light of the world {**} the oil is salvation which may imply are you secure in your scriptural knowledge, Which inturns mean they used to be born again Christians but because of the delay they slipped out and their light went off so when christ is returning they heard the noise and decided to return and to slip back in. So they ran to the church to refire up their salvation, but before they return the "taken away" has been completed and the porter close. Am not correcting anyone just saying it as it drop into my spirit.
There are some of fruits that are missing in today's Christianity where a pastor can say i dont know or iam stil goin to search about it or anyone who can help us in the congregation 🤔🤔🤔
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 so all the explanation on "hapazo" refuting the direction implied from the phrase "caught up" is all invalid? It's like you didn't finish the whole video.
@@jaimzjnr7713 I honestly did not fully listen to the videos the first time. Someone else in another comment brought my attention to that. So, I listened through to the end. However, besides the "Hapazo" explanation, we still have the 5th Seal in the book of Revelation where the saints appear in God's presence in HEAVEN where John "WENT UP". We know that the RAPTURE comes after the man of lawlessness been revealed. It doesn't happen at the 5th seal, and proof of this can be seen in the fact that they did not appear there in "BODIES". That also contradicts his understanding of the scripture.
Amen, God bless this apostle. He is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
He made a striking revelation about Adam. I appreciate that but After listening to the message I came here to make comment concerning the paradise the preacher talked about that believers go to after they . Jesus is the only way to heaven. Before he came Saints go to paradise in hades when they die but after His resurrection He took all of them with Him to heaven. When He resurrected the bible said that there were many people that resurrected with Him. Besides, if you look at all the accounts of people that had an experience of heaven, most of them talks about ascending to heaven and not descending to hades. I have not seen or heard of any genuine testimony that talks about going to paradise in hades after death. It's either going to hell or to heaven. Through the death and resurrection of Christ, saints now have access to heaven after death. This is where Pst AROME OSAYI got it wrong. The next thing he said that struck me which I am researching to verify is where he said that the OUTER DARKNESS is not HELL. but a kind of purging center where the saints who did not measure up to the standards are kept till they are ready. It seems to agree with the catholic Doctrine of purgatory. He made a reference to it in his previous message on Underworld ad that's what I came to check out. He released some powerful revelations which I appreciate and agree to except for this ones about paradise I just mentioned. Then I am not yet convinced and satisfied with that of outer darkness. He may be right or wrong, but it's now a subject I am going to do a research on. You guys can tell me what you think about the outer darkness. Because if you read how Jesus described it, you will discover that he described it the same way he described hell;, a place of torment and gnashing of teeth.
Huuuuuuuuuun, we tread on Holy grounds. The doctrine of purgatory, though much maligned because of d abuses of RCC clergy, is truth. Our Father, in His great mercy, has prepared a means of correction/reformation/restitution for His children who died unprepared and unfit for His immediate presence at their death. It takes the PURE to appear before consuming Fire. By d PURE I mean confession and up to date forgiveness of all sins. 1Cor.3:15
Just as one of the contributors wrote, Jesus told one of the thieves by His side that "today you will meet Me in paradise". Many saints in our days die and at the point of death Angels came to usher them to heaven.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Thanks for fresh insight. The outer darkness, according to Apst. Arome is a place of reformation/restitution akin to d RCC doctrine of purgatory. Do you have any opinion on this?
@@lolasobande8663 : Purgatory is doesn't exist. Jesus teachings in the bible only reflected three places; Heaven, Abraham's Bosom(Paradise) and Hades. I believe scripture tells us that the outer darkness is clearly a place of torment. I don't agree with his teaching on this. Outer darkness is the darkness found outside the kingdom of Light as the name suggests. Luke 13:28 28“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves THROWN OUT." I personally believe that it is an expulsion from the kingdom of God. Death has always been associated with sorrow(weeping) and Destruction with immemse pain(Gnashing of Teeth). So, these people who were unfruitful will be thrown out of the kingdom where they share a portion with the hipocrites. Matthew 24:48-51 48But suppose THAT SERVANT IS WICKED and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. (He is a drunkard-1 Corinthians 6:10- tells us that drunkards don't inherit God's kingdom) 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the HIPOCRITES, where there will be WEEPING and GNASHING OF TEETH. The real question now is this; Who are the hipocrites??(I personally think the pharisees met that description). Where are the pharisees today?? I don't think they are in heaven or paradise. They can only be in Hades(Matthew 23:13-15). So, I believe somehow, outer darkness is a term used to qualify one who has been expelled from the kingdom of God to a spiritual place of death and destruction. It can only be the Lake of Fire and Hades. I think that the believers who lived as hipocrites that died before Jesus return will be in Hades, missing the first ressurection. That is how they will be "thrown out of the kingdom". Then those who will be alive at the second coming will be put to death and will remain in Hades until the White Throne Judgment where they will be cast into the Lake of Fire. Luke 12:47-48 47“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. (These two servants have one thing in common. They were disobedient but the reasons for disobedience differed. "My people STILL PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE" though they are "MY PEOPLE" and the blows of their judgment be fewer). So, yes, I disagree with him on that teaching about outer darkness. "Outer darkness" is a term used to point to the fact that the person was of the Light at some point but they got thrown out.
Not all, some souls stay under the alter of God crying to him daily not from hades but from the alter of God. His children will not be in darkness or be stranded in hades and sheol but unto the alter basin there they will wait and will not expirience the bounties of resurrection until the Lord's day.
Unfortunately, William Branham was not called to be a teacher. Actually, his ministry suffered in the latter stages because he deviated from his calling as a prophet and started to major as a teacher, and taught many things that were not sound. Every minister is called to teach, but not every minister is a teacher. Certain teachings, such as establishing and correcting doctrine, should be reserved for teachers that God has given the grace. Apostle Arome is fully aware of Branham's teachings as I have heard him comment on them many times. I have also read books by other fathers that have commented on Branham's ministry.
As he rightly said GEHENNA and PARADISE are two separate things apostle used the word compartment Gehenna is translated hell and this word is derived from the Hebrew Word ge-hi nom, hinnom, it also called Tophet or the valley of dead bones (Jer.31:40) Jesus used the symbolism of Gehenna to describe a place of everlasting punishment. Mark 9:43, Luke 12:5.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@Ajiboye Adeleye : The door to paradise in EDEN was shut to fallen man because of sin. Suddenly the door was being reopened as Jesus died. What then to you is the difference between PARADISE and Abraham's Bossom??
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Thank you Nnamdi for this. Our people don't have time to do personal research and study with the Holy Spirit. They just follow whatever they hear. Especially if the teacher is widely respected. Thinking the teacher can never make mistake.
@Nnamdi Enekwa , I understand, but my question is when Jesus died did he fly to haven to paradise, and then come back to the world to show up to his disciples and then leave again to haven, waiting for the end of the age to take us home to haven with him. Why some people who died long before Jesus's death showed up on earth when Jesus was giving up his spirit?..... Does it mean those people came from paradise, which is in heaven?
2 Corinthians 12:1-4 KJV It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. [2] I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. [3] And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) [4] How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
@Nnamdi Enekwa -I believe that the Apostle is right. Because when Jesus Died first, he went to paradise or Hades to defeat the Devil to take back the key to life and death. So we know paradise and hades are not in the heavens. When he rose from the dead, he had never been to any havens. He said to his disciples that he had gotten back all authority in even and on earth. He went to the mountain with his disciples, and he flew to heaven; then angle appeared to the disciples of Jesus, saying that the same way you see him leaving through the sky is the same way you will see him coming from the haven. Or otherwise, there will be the third coming of Jesus. So what I mean is if paradise was up there in the haven, then when Jesus died, he flew in the sky to the heavens to go to paradise and then came down on the earth to go to the bottom pit of hades to defeat the devil to take the keys of life and death. Do you mean that Jesus as a man or in the human body, already came from heaven to earth a second time, and now we're waiting for the third coming of Jesus? Please let us know if Jesus physically went to heaven twice while on earth. Thanks.
Well, the most important thing is not to struggle to make heaven, because you can make heaven and not make the Kingdom of God......to make heaven all you need is your spirit salvation, which is Justification, like the thief on the cross, he just believe...but to make the Kingdom of God that is coming on the earth, you need your Spirit, Soul and Body to be kept blameless until the coming of our Lord. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until that day when our Lord Jesus Christ comes again. That was what Paul was talking about.... also when Jesus said, "the meek shall inherit the earth" or when he told his disciples in Matthew 19Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, Truly I say to you, in the new age [the Messianic rebirth of the world], when the Son of Man shall sit down on the throne of His glory, you who have [become My disciples, sided with My party and] followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel. I hope this helps.
Good question 🤔 Thank you for the answer. Might Man of God🙏 I have a question that comes up a lot if a person committed suicide where do they go? It's a oftenly asked question I remember Jesus talking about the trader (Judas Iscariot) " It would been better if not born?- Jesus said 🤔 please can you do a video on this topic?
1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a MURDERER, and you know that NO MURDERER has ETERNAL LIFE residing in him. Suicide is self murder. Thou shall not do murder. This scripture is clear that they will go to hell and await the judgement unto the lake of fire. What do you want to know about Judas?? I might be able to help through the grace of God.
Even Osayi Arome himself has told numerous stories of how he went up to Heaven where he met Jesus, Abraham, Joel, John Knox, and many other people who died in Christ. So, was it in the Paradise, a compartment of Hades, that he met all these great men who died in Christ? The soul of a believer in Christ who dies does not go down, as Osayi Arome suggests. When a believer dies, his soul goes back to its Maker, who is God. In 2 Corinthians 12: 2-4, Paul narrated the story of a “man” who was caught UP into paradise. “I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was CAUGHT UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." Paradise isn’t some kind of temporary holding place for dead Christians. The thief went into paradise. The apostle Paul went up into paradise after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s just a term to describe the glories of heaven. He went there, heard inexpressible words which a man is not permitted to speak. It was a place of indescribable glory, joy and satisfaction. Paradise is up in Heaven in the presence of God, and it is not one of the two compartments of Hades.
Paradise used to be in the heart of the earth. He is right about that part. But I believe the name shifted from the heart of the earth to the new location in Heaven where the saints await ressurection.
You're wrong .. Paradise is here and not in heaven . no one is going to live in heaven ..we are all coming back to a new earth after judgment to live forever.Heaven is for God and the angels
@@vincentjohn9501 : A paradise is a place where the throne of God is perfectly established amongst men. It is not yet here but it will be in the future when God is enthroned on earth.
In messages like this, I suggest you listen to Men of God like Pastor W F Kumuyi, you'll see scriptural evidence that shows that Christians who died in Christ are in Heaven already not in hades/grave...pls let's be careful... pls let's developer the attitude of preaching the word of God only, the pure word of God, it has sustained the faith that you met, so called mystery and semantics did not preserve the Faith... There is No waiting after death!
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 thank you very much... The only problem is how to unteach any error we preach as children of God, the reason we need to be careful of what we preach...I pray God grants us and the man of God(Arome Osayi) enlightenment in the areas needed... Amen.
Comparison Gehenna and Hades Gehenna is different from Hades 1) Hades is a temporary place of the dead where only the soul exist in both spirit and soul. 2)the suffering in Gehenna is eternal while the suffering in Hades is temporal.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
God bless you, you are very accurate on this, but I believe that our teachings must come from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, we have no right to teach what the Lord has not taught us ourselves, that why I believe arome need correction. I know that you have been taught by the Spirit of God before you could be this accurate on this subject. Once again thank you. I
@@Confirmnews1 : Amen, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I was taught by the LORD on this. All the glory belongs to Him. He teaches us His word. I m sure the LORD would have already shown him his error.
@@bwiredenis898 : Truth is that he actually made a valid point about Paradise and the Third HEAVEN being two different experiences by that man 14 years ago. I can see that from the scripture. However, there are still other scriptures like Rev 6 that SEEM to contradict his teaching on this. Was that ALTAR under which the persecuted souls were found in heaven or not?? I mean, we know that they got there as a result of Matthew 24:9 Also, one of the riders was death and Hades followed him. This same Hades and death were cast into the lake of fire, telling us that they are fallen spirits. How then can we say that paradise is in the custody of that fallen spirit called HADES. That would be bondage. This paradise will still be in the presence of God, even after Hades is thrown into the lake of fire. So, that is why I disagree with him, even with the explanation he gave so far, unless the location for the tree of life will change.
d apostles answer to d brother's question was both confusing & very wrong. very wrong! d answer to d brother's question is d millenial reign of Christ & His raptured saints. 1st we r raptured to heaven. 2nd, while in heaven, we r married to Jesus at d marriage supper of THE LAMB + receive our rewards. at dis time, d tribulation is happening on d earth for 7 years. . 3rd, after d tribulation, Jesus & His saints return to a beautiful earth & stay for 1000 years.
*What is the outer darkness in Matthew 22:13?* outer darkness In the Parable of the Wedding Feast, Jesus tells of a “wedding crasher” of sorts: a man in the wedding hall was discovered to have entered the feast without authorization. Jesus says that the king, the master of the feast, issued a dire command concerning the interloper: “Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness” (ESV). Jesus uses the term “outer darkness” in the parable to describe a condition of great sorrow, loss and woe. It stands in vivid contrast to the brightly lit and joyous celebration attended by those who accepted the king’s invitation. Interpreting the wedding feast as heaven, the “outer darkness” must be the place of eternal punishment. Most Bible scholars agree that the phrase “outer darkness” refers to hell or, more properly, the lake of fire (Matthew 8:12; 13:42; 13:50; and 25:30,41). The outer darkness of Jesus’ parable is called “blackest darkness” in Jude 1:13. Again, a place of judgment is the obvious meaning, since it is reserved for “godless men” (verse 4). Perhaps the place of judgment is pictured as “dark” because of the absence of God’s cheering presence. “When you hide your face, they are terrified” (Psalm 104:29). God is called “light” in 1 John 1:5, and if He withdraws His blessing, only darkness is left. Throughout the Scriptures light symbolizes God’s purity, holiness, and glory. Darkness is used as a symbol of moral depravity (Psalm 82:5; Proverbs 2:13; Romans 3:12). Darkness can also refer to trouble and affliction (Job 5:12; Proverbs 20:20; Isaiah 9:2) and to death and nothingness (1 Samuel 2:9; Ecclesiastes 11:8; Job 3:4-6). The outer darkness of judgment is accompanied by “weeping and gnashing of teeth.” The “weeping” describes an inner pain of the heart, mind, and soul. The word in the original denotes a bewailing or lamentation by beating the breast in an expression of immense sorrow. The “gnashing of teeth” describes an outward pain of the body. Taken together, the weeping and gnashing of teeth says hell is a place of indescribable spiritual agony and unending physical pain (see Luke 16:23-28). The outer darkness is a place of anguish, heartache, grief, and unspeakable suffering. Such will be the lot of all who reject Christ (John 3:18, 36). Christ is the Light of the World (John 8:12). When one rejects the Light, he will be cast into eternal darkness. Just like the man in the parable, the one who rejects Christ will lose his chance for joy, blessing and fellowship and will be left with nothing but darkness and eternal regret the "exterior darkness" or outer darkness is a place referred to three times in the Gospel of Matthew (8:12, 22:13, and 25:30) into which a person may be "cast out", and where there is "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming. The phrase first occurs in Jesus' comment concerning the faith of the Centurion of Capernaum: Matthew 8:11 'And I say to thee that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven: But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” The use of the term exterior darkness is in Jesus' parable of the wedding feast (also known as the parable of the marriage of the king's son). In this parable, a king arranged a wedding for his son, but the normal guests did not come; therefore, the king sent his servants to gather guests from off the street. One of these guests, however, appeared without the proper wedding attire. When the king asked, "Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?" the man was silent (Matt 22:12); therefore, the king said: "Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen. (Matt. 22:13-14, D-R.) The third use occurs in the parable of the talents: "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."(Matthew 25:30).
Our works are either according to God's Word or according to men or our own hearts. The fire that will be used for testing is a metaphor for the Word of Jesus. Is your work according Christ's commandments? We will know! Many Believers believe in the Pastor than in Christ. Jesus Christ said we should love our enemies, many people are not in acceptance with that because their Pastors teach them otherwise so they cause, they hate, and pray hell on their enemies. Such things Will underscore the judgement of the Believer. We shall be rewarded for the works we have DONE. It is important that we teach what Jesus has commanded, not after the vain philosophies of men. Be careful.
Thanks so much for the insight Apostle but I think your introduction is quite misleading here because Prior to Jesus death and resurrection Saints who died goes to paradise in Hades which is still in the domain of the devil because remember Bible says he led captives in his train which means when Jesus died he went to hell and when he went there he led the saints of old who were captives free so after his resurrection Saints no longer go to hades, Apostle Paul says Absent from the body and present with the Lord..so all the saints who have died now are all present with the Lord in heaven..infact prior to Jesus death there were 3 personalities that were in heaven,Moses,Elijah and Enoch but as of now every believer who dies appears in heaven not hades...The reason for paradise in Hades was because Jesus hadn't died yet so when he came he died and went to hades to lead captivity captive..infact Bible makes the point that the old testament saints were also raised from the dead when Jesus rose from the dead and they went to show themselves in the holy city... May God bless his word..
I think the message is quite clear. Let us, not debate about the saints. If I am not wrong, those who are led by the Spirit will not be judged. So these are the saints and they may already be in heaven. However we need to understand that not all Christians are saints. They were never born again. Majority are carnal and living by the flesh. And they will be judged. As long as they have not gone through judgement they cannot go to heaven. Heaven is holy. I know from the Spirit that there is a place called paradise. I know from scripture that on the 2nd coming of Christ, those in the grave will rise up first. I also know from scripture there is a place called outer darkness where there is gnashing of teeth. These are for unrepentant believers who do not walk in love. From the book Heaven Is Real there are 2 places where most Christians will end up. One wearing blue robes and one grey robes. I heard a testimony of a youth who saw his grandfather in blue robe on the day he passed on. I believe the grandfather is not a practising Christian because the children and grandchildren do not know the Lord.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
I saw this in my dream the Lord took me to that place the gate 2 angel stood at the entrance so when the angel open the gate I saw dead people I saw my father looking fresh that place is very quiet and beautiful the angel as me to go and talk to my father I talk to him and told me so many things he gave me letter that I should give it my brother who's is a pastor when I open the letter it was written with red biro I don't understand it but he said if I give the letter to him he will understand I ask the angel which place is this he said this is where all believer will stay on till the second come of Jesus, also they used to open this gate for human being once in 2000 years. He shouted I should go the angel want to close the gate and I ran out and the gate was close and disappear I found myself inside tick bush . So I told my brother what I saw but he didn't pay attention to my words bcos he is a man of God, that red biro means danger is coming but I cannot figure it out on till the problem started he was attack in the dream he nearly died but God restore him back but he suffer for more than 6month.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
Hades is hell according to scripture. The parable of Lazarus and the richman in Luke 16:22 clearly states paradise (Abraham's blossom) and hell (hades) as two separate places. Search the scriptures oh brethren.
After rapture,the Lord and His church will come back and rule for 1000 yrs..During that time satan will be bound to deceive no more for that period. After that he will be released briefly. Before that time,the sinners are still unressurrected Rev 20: gives that account. In Rev 6:9-11 all the dead from the tribulation appear by the alter in heaven,not in hades and they are told to wait a little more .....
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I deeply respect the teachings of apostle arome osayi and i listen to a lot of them. but with all due respect on this one I do not agree with the man of God. I want to say that paradise is not beneath the earth. When Jesus was on earth , paradise and hades(gehena) was located under the earth but when He rose from the death, Paradise was shifted from under the earth to Heaven.So paradise is no longer under the earth. Matthew 27:51-53 says the graves of the righteous people were opened and they came out the graves after His resurrection...He arose first and then all the righteous souls were raised to fulfill the word that He is the first born from the dead Revelations 1:5.....so at this point psalm 68:18 was fulfilled which says He led captivity captive(Ephesians 4:8-10). So when Jesus ascended to Heaven, He took all righteous souls with Him . 1Thessalonians 4:14 says if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will BRING with HIM(Jesus) those who have fallen asleep... So those who have fallen asleep in Jesus are with Him in paradise and He will Come with Them. Acts 7:55-60 Stephen saw the son of man standing on the right Hand of God and he said LORD Jesus receive my spirit and he fell asleep thus when a child of God dies his spirit will go directly to the LORD and not down the earth, the apostle paul said Iam hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ....Philippians 1:23 Remember that a witch from en dor was able to summon the spirit of the great man of God( the prophet Samuel) to come up from under the earth because by that time paradise was under the earth but today no witch can summon the true child of God who has died in the LORD because paradise has been shifted from under the earth to Heaven. This topic is so deep it needs the revelation of the HOLY SPIRIT to fully understand it...
No, when believers die they go to heaven now. I heard the Apostle in one video that he was taken to heaven in a revelation and saw Abraham and John Knox, now why should it be Hades if he saw these two saints in heaven ? I submit that all believers, holy and ready, go to heaven when they die. For unbelievers and all sinners it is straight way hell.
Read the bible yourself and understand for yourself that Paul says Christ will come with all those who died in christ and that consists the first resurrection 1Thes5....
I disagree. Strongly. After Jesus descent to hades be let the saints to heaven. When John had visions In Revelation he encountered elders in heaven. The Word elder is given to a man.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@andreasuupindi7546 : There are many of them. I m talking about the key people that God used to spark REVIVALS after the church was planted by the 12. John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield... I m talking about the key revivalists in church history who taught that we go to HEAVEN when we die. It was quite bold to go against such a teaching without really digging into scriptures.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
Jesus went to hades,a place of punishment for sinners,as in Lk 16 : so that you and me dont go there 1Pet3:18-20 . When you go out of your costume,the body remains and you gravitate to hades or the paradise of God that Christ promised the thief at the cross. The blood of Christ is all you need and there is no further purging when you go as a christian....It is the Catholic who teach about purgatory,without sccriptural back up. This is not in scriptures for us. And about us going to be with Christ upon leaving the bodies Paul also refers to it in Philipians1:21-23...where he says I desire to depart and be with Christ....Where is Christ? In hades,a place of punishment? Where are the souls that arrive at the alter in Rev6:9 after being killed in the coming great tribulation? These are all in heaven,and not in hades or hell as falsely taught here that ppo go to hades including saints. Pray over this before believing it. Hear from God
@@J_a_s_o_n Look for Kevin Zadai,a man who finished his minstry at about 30 and was asked to come back again for reassignment to do what he is doing now.He is a very reliable minister if you listen to his testimony. Otherwise,I have noticed that we Christians need to.learn to read the bible alpne and be prayerful so that we tap.imto discernment too,otherwise we may be misled by some zealous,yet not really knowledgeable ministers. Just for another issue I have met about Apostle Arome is that he is on record saying that TB Joshua was a sooth sayer,and not from God and that alll who have been to scoan need deliverance...The worst part was when he mentioned that he saw it in the spirit realm about TBJ! To me and to any one who has a revelation from God about TB J that is something worrying,because automatically we know that it was not a revelation from God the Father of Jesus. He means to say even.Apostle Selman needs deliverance because he was even prayed.for by TBJ....What am I trying to say?So called men of God can miss it too,just as Elijah missed.it in thinking that "I am the only.one left....",hence need for discernment on our part and studiousness of scripture....The fact that someone claims to have spiritual encounters does not mean they are correct in everything....They can even encounter demons too,as in the case of lying thar TB.Joshua was a sooth sayer and not a manof God....Just watch Emmanuel Tv! Is what is happening there now satanic?, Watch his spiritual sons too,are they really soooth sayers? There Wiseman Hurry and Daniel and apostle John Chi in Cameron...Watch tjem and see if they seem like satanists....
Gehenna or Hell is presently unoccupied, this will happen in the future when God judges the wicked angels along with evil humanity that is where Hell and Gehenna will become occupied or inhabited.
@@J_a_s_o_n once and again you need to spend more time on scripture disciple am not here to defend doctrine or defend my thesis on a subject. I do respect ✊ your views, opinions etc. and I still stand by it Gehenna or he’ll is currently not occupied period.
Gehenna is actual valley in the city of Jerusalem, in the bible it was a place of child sacrifice remember the reign of king Josiah onward, Gehenna is a garbage dump where there’s constant fire 🔥 is burning refuse. Jesus used Gehenna as a final judgement of the wicked.
@@J_a_s_o_n am not confused disciple,am very clear on this very subject. The subject of heaven and hell has been distance from the pulpit when it comes to this generation. And apostle brought it to light that is that matters to me thank you.
Born again Christians don’t go to hades .. the go to Paradise , when the man on the other side of Christ on the cross told Jesus I want to be with you in paradise Christ granted him his wish , also Christ went to hades to redeem those there who were waiting for him , when u read revelation believers await there not in hades .. God bless you
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 exactly, that is why is good to learn the word of God by yourself he is good and he is also human is not all the time he can be perfect . Someone will see this and say he is false teacher , but it’s not so , if u admit he is human u won’t get carried away
The appointment for one to die is never talking about natural death. This death is the wages of sin. Jesus died that death. Study your Bible. I'm sure you know that people saw their dead walking the street when Jesus arose. All who die in Christ, his Spirit goes to God in CHRIST while the body returns to the earth. Remember that all Believers are already in Christ and have made heaven the day they became Born Again. Again, judgement is not after We die, but based on our choice of Jesus Christ or not. Believers are not to be judged for sin because they have been judged by faith. Read John 5. As you believed you passed from death unto Life, else you are already dead. That's judgement. In heaven Believers are not to be judged for sin or Righteousness but for the work done on Faith.
Hebrews 9.27- end . Please ready and understand for your self, once to dies means Jesus died and we died in him . No waiting and all these wrong explanation. Error and error, we have been judged in christ and declared not guilt . If any man be in christ , full stop . Too much error in this teaching
Corporate Judgement is not same with individual judgment. Just as Corporate glorification is not same with individual glorification. Though corporately we are seated with Christ in the heavenly places. But individually we still need to overcome and then qualify the right to sit... Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Though corporately we died in Christ on the cross, nevertheless we are individually alive. And if we do not appropriate this death in our individual life. Then we shall die. But if through the spirit we appropriate this death, then we enter into resurrection life reality. Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
@@mgbuowa6990 Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. II Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
you sound like antichrist. How do you say the servant of God is wrong and you have nothing to present? You are completely empty and jelous. Child of the devil.
Oga apostle! Your position on Adam sounds like heresy! Are you aware Adam was created in God's image? A sinless man! Don't preach from your "head" sir! So you also believe christians don't go to heaven immediately they die??? This is ridiculous sir!
It is okey and possible for Apostle to say I dnt know, to some questions. Issues about heaven and where people go , need a deep prophetic insight. U must be able to see the dead and talk to them, talk to those that died in christ , those that dint die in christ. There are prophets who move in such realms like Prophet Samuel kakande. He explains them better. Apostle Aroma is gifted at teaching faith and prayer but not these topics of after life. He is clearly struggling and the preaching seems so lacking.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH. Apostle is correct about this. Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.” The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death. Again apostle is correct up until this point. However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise. 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound. Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection. Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it. Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles. God bless you guys.
There’s now no judgement for those who are in Christ Jesus. Romans 8:1 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life. John 5:24 Also hebrews 9 verse 27 must be read upto verse 28 to get it’s full context, otherwise you may fall into error like how Apostle here have. FURTHERMORE, IT IS BETTER TO JUST KEEP QUEIT TO SOME QUESTIONS WE DO NOT KNOW FOR THE WELL BEING OF THE DOCTRINE BEING FED TO THE BELIEVERS. 🙏🏿
There is no condemnation for those in Christ but for those without Christ. The judgement seat of Christ for believers is not for condemnation but for crown. I HOPE THIS HELPS
Most of you should sit and study... I Corinthians 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
Sir God will judge ur work not you but if your work is found to meet requirements you get the reward but if it doesn't you will b punished it's like dt. Ask yourself about the 10 virgins Apostle is right
From the first verse he quoted, he's wrong. It is appointed unto man to die, and after that judgement, was talking about Jesus. Believers in Christ will not come into judgment, but have been passed from death to life already at the moment of believing. John 5:24, (go and read the verse and even the context before replying me) why is that so? Because Jesus was judged for us on the cross. These so called apostles flying around these days need to sit down and believe the simplicity of the scriptures, they read too much meaning into texts, and that causes them to lose out on what the context is saying.
At least you should learn to honour people's labour and not just condemn them. what is the meaning of the Apostles flying around? it shows you only have head knowledge of the word you are yet to receive the life and the spirit of the word. Don't you study the manner of correcting people from the scripture.
Thank you very much. any child of God who died in Christ is not in Hades/grave, He is in Heaven. That's the word of God, it says, blessed are the dead in Christ from now henceforth... Search the scriptures...
@@samueladeniji5370 I don't think you understand the gravity of the scriptures when it talked about how we should avoid teachers whose teaching isn't wholesome. I've listened to a ton of their teachings and these apostles teach wrong doctrine, it's not even wrong to call it heresy. With the seriousness of the tone of the scriptures, if I see one of my disciples or students listening to their teachings, I would rebuke them sharply! Right from the basic understanding of the simplicity of the gospel, their teachings on the foundation of the death burial and resurrection of Christ has been wrong, I wouldn't advice even my enemies to listen to their teachings, I wouldn't expect you to understand, at least not on this space, but I will never honor false teachers, not even supported scripturally.
You neither provided proper scriptural references nor properly explain the one you provided and from you speakings one can readily deduce that you either don't have proper spiritual upbringing or you don't even submit under any authority. common Bible knowledge tells you not to correct elders but intreat them. May God deliver and help your disciples before you destroy their lives
Brother Arome, pls limit your teachings to the obvious: faith, righteousness and the totality of the Christian's earthly sojourn. Don't venture into the events of the afterlife.
@@mrsxber1916 Human beings should learn to keep to the confines of revealed scripture. Don't assume or presume what the scripture draws no conclusions on by adding what's not there ! There's this temptation to impress your followers that know and have mastered every topic in the the book, by embellishing the stories. Besides, God won't give a revelation that would not be corroborated by the logos, written scriptures --- the bible.
I personally don’t think he has gone out of range,pulpits now a days don’t talk about after life. The new offsprings don’t want to accept that there hell and heaven so brother I understand where u are going BUT someone need to teach this concept or where we are going after we die.
Seconded brother. That's what our woke generation wants to listen, and most of these things been said are just a drifting from this scriptures and you see who don't read their bibles or esteem extra biblical teachings shouting and clapping.
And by what authority do you think you can tell him what and what not to teach. Why did the Bible ask you to study to show yourself approved and please what are you supposed to do to the word of truth again?
This teaching will benefit those who are already curious in this direction.
If THIS isn't you, it is quite possible that you may not fully comprehend what God is doing through Apostle right now.
Let others be able to receive this "engrafted word with meekness" (James 1:31) for the salvation of their souls.
May God dare us closer to him in Jesus' name. Amen
Thank you
The apostle is missing some crucial doctrines that will damn some souls. He's trying but he excludes some keys things. Its dangerous. Ask the HS for insight.
Souls are saved by Faith In Jesus, not by their knowledge of The location of Paradise. The knowledge or ignorance of this poses no threat to my faith, it only broadens my understanding.
@@melchizedek79So why haven't you shared the insights? You can't say something is missing then not share. Do you doubt that Apostle Arome Osayi is a seasoned man of God? You doubt He is not led by the Holy Spirit? Yes he can have
mistakes but where is your Take? Sorry it's hard to take your response seriously
@@godishere4Did he teach that your faith is challenged?
My people perish because of lack of knowledge 😂
Many yrs ago I'd a vision of the 3angels to proclaim rapture & I was terrified that out of my mom's household (children&grand children), only 5persons were to b saved as at that time. After thatI'd another vision where we were shouting that the time of our Savior JESUS Christ has come. There was heavy rain with white stones dropping from the sky. Some great buildings were crumbling while some remained up. After the storm I realised that my late father resurected though looking younger& I was happy but I was worried that my late maternal grand father never resurected. I was looking for him anxiously but I couldn't see him. Then I woke up. Glory be to God in the highest amen. Following with faith from Southern Cameron Africa. Amen.
Apostle, God has graced you with great revelations of the word. I never heard this kind of revelation abt the 10 virgins. Waaaaa. God bless you
We need fathers like this in this our generation who tells us the truth not otherwise.
This hast been my most confused question in the scripture, yet different preachers has given their own opinion but you (apostle arome osayi) has really given the revelation of truth. God bless you sir
Exactly. I heard a preaching saying its used to be paradise until Jesus died and resurrected and he set the captives free and they raptured with Him. That was in the Abrahams blossom
I want to listen to this several times over
You teach so well Apostle is like you were there when the Bible ws written🙌💯🔥😭
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222, which means you didn't get his explanation about the word translated 'caught up.
you can still watch the video if you missed that part.
@@henryakoje9284 :
He talked about "caught up"(rapture). Where he said the body in heaven is downloaded and will locate you were you are. And once you put that on, Hades won't be able to keep you."
Is that what you are talking about??
@@henryakoje9284 :
I have other scriptures that disagree with him.
For instance, why did the persecuted saints appear under the altar in the presence of God's throne at the opening of the 5th seal. I mean, that tells you they were in HEAVEN waiting?? God Himself sitting on the throne told them to wait.
Hades was clearly a spirit(a fallen spirit) that was riding behind death, and so will be cast into the lake of fire. At the opening of the 4th seal, this was revealed. To put a person in Hades is to put the person in the custody of that spirit.
This is impossible because the book of Revelation clearly calls Paradise "The paradise of my God". So, the government running the paradise is different from the government running hades(which is a fallen spirit). Though Christ is head over all principalities, even hades. But Christ clearly runs paradise directly. He doesn't share it with anyone.
My point is that, the scripture about the Third HEAVEN is very accurate because it is telling us which government is running the place called "Paradise". It is the sole presence of God's governance or pleasing and perfect will in a place that makes the place "Heaven".
Moreover, the unprofitable servant was condemned. The outer darkness is the darkness outside the kingdom of LIGHT.
I completely agree with you that is how I understand it. During the resurrection the Paradise was transferred from the belly of the Earth to third Heaven as some saints were seen walking in Israel. Most importantly Isaiah 61 explains this phenomenon in much detail. However, the apostle explains the scriptures very well and vivid I have actually learnt much and it was interesting as well.
Another point is that Hell is made up of different compartments and Jewish oral traditions points that Hell has got 7 compartments one after the other like the sky scraper, abyss is the lowest compartment of the Hell.
God bless you Apostle ❤
So deep and true
I had a revelation of this but couldn’t explain it. Thanks sir
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@Ajiboye Adeleye :
My brother, I don't disagree that it is a waiting place for now.
I don't even disagree that it was in the "heart of the earth"(not "Hades") up until the death and ressurection of Jesus.
But where I disagree is that it is currently in Hades.
I m not claiming to have all the revelations on this scripture. God is still teaching me as I go. But for where I am at the moment, I see it clearly in heaven not Hades. But as the Lord enlightens me further, if it proves otherwise I will be public about it.
If you want more details I will give you details, showing that paradise does infact move and change locations.
@@kemijohnson3653 :
Look at where the tribulation saints are in the book of revelation 7:9. They are the full number of brethren that were to be killed according to Rev 6:11. Off ourse, being that the same persecution killed them, it is safe to say they would be in the same place. Before the THRONE of God and the Lamb.
Now unless a person believes in a PRETRIBULATION rapture(which is not biblical), I don't see how they can think these people are in Hades.
May God strengthen prophet Osayi as he struggles to run the straight race wth God almighty but faces attacks frm charlatans of miracle money.God forbid!! Jesus said a wicked generation looks for miracles.....Prayers for prophet Osayi from Southern Cameron Africa. Amen.
I love Apostle Arome Osayi and what the Lord is using him to do all around the world and his stand on purity and righteousness. I pray that God continue to prosper his ministry.
WHERE TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL GO AFTER DEATH.
I believe the scriptures will give more insight to this. I will endeavour to give us some scriptures that stated categorically where true believers will go when they die:
APOSTLE PAUL STATEMENTS OF FACTS:
Philippians 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is far better.(Emphasis mine).
2 Corinthians 5:6, 8
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD.( Emphasis mine).
EVIDENCE FROM JESUS STATEMENT
John 17:24
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
THE FIRST CHRISTIAN MARTYR GAVE A GOOD INSIGHT TO THIS:
Acts 7:55,56, 59
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit
It's very clear from these scriptures that when a true Christian die, he/she goes to where Jesus is. Though some may extrapolate that our Lord Jesus is omni- present, hence His ability to be both at the right hand of God and paradise down below. But this speculative in a sense.
We may ask, where is Jesus now? At the right hand of God as Stephen saw, testified and prayed to be received there. It is quite important that we do not speculate with scriptures as it is exact with these information and also not mix old testament dispensation with the new testament dispensation. That's why Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise".
Paradise(παράδεισος-paradeisos: enclosed garden, heaven) and heaven(οὐρανός-ouranos: heaven) in this case are synonymous.
The question is whether they are going to be with Him immediately after death or after a waiting period especially if paradise and heaven are two different things.
@@melchizedek79 Jesus specifically stated when this will be: Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, TODAY (Emphasis mine) shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Today, meaning the same day they died, their destination will be determined; either heaven or hell. The writer of Hebrews elaborated how this will be:
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men ONCE TO DIE(Emphasis mine), but AFTER THIS(Emphasis mine) the judgment:
This means in collaboration with Jesus statement of fact that the same day of death, there will be judgement for those that die before rapture as a prerequisite to passage the same day to their abode; either to be with Jesus or hell.
Hebrews elaborated what happens the same day of death; between the time of death and the destination of the person that died. There is no waiting time as Jesus categorically stated it's the same day the person's destination will be determined by judgement according to Hebrews 9:27
One death, one judgement before one destination determined by judgement. This verse in Hebrews stated it's an APPOINTMENT and that one appointment, no waiting and like Clarke commentary put it: no metempsychosis, no transmigration from body to body; Scriptures explains itself. There is not room for speculative teachings.
@@okech321 Thank you
please, for a better explanation and understanding of what he is saying, listen to his message titled, 'messages from the underworld.
Thank you for the message. But the pop notifications for like/subscribe are a bit too much.
Exactly…..
Honestly.. .
It’s so annoying
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
Kindly pay for you tube then they will stop
Great teacher 👏
So much information
This man is deep
Am enjoying the message,put please remove the noise sound,like a bell in the background
Powerful
🔥🔥🔥MOUNT OF TRANSFIGURATION 🔥🔥🔥🔥Moses and Elijah came from above to meet Jesus and three desciples.
Also He rose and led the freed captives to heaven { ascended)
God bless apostle Osayi🙏
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
Apostle says u will go to Hades. How does his teaching agree with your comment?
@@barryoghagbon3917 Lol... that's called hero worship. They are afraid to disagree even when the Bible is clear. Paul rebuked Peter, even when Peter was the leader of the church and apostles.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Who are these Father's of Faith ?
@@timothybolofinde1987 :
There are many of them. I m talking about the key people that God used to spark REVIVALS after the church was planted by the 12.
John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield... I m talking about the key revivalists in church history who taught that we go to HEAVEN when we die.
I thought Matthew 25 was referring to those who waiting and are wise to remain in their salvation plan, because there will be a slight delay,
{*} the lamb is the son of man which is the light of the world
{**} the oil is salvation which may imply are you secure in your scriptural knowledge,
Which inturns mean they used to be born again Christians but because of the delay they slipped out and their light went off so when christ is returning they heard the noise and decided to return and to slip back in.
So they ran to the church to refire up their salvation, but before they return the
"taken away" has been completed and the porter close.
Am not correcting anyone just saying it as it drop into my spirit.
There are some of fruits that are missing in today's Christianity where a pastor can say i dont know or iam stil goin to search about it or anyone who can help us in the congregation 🤔🤔🤔
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
We love apostle Osayi his family
@@luthandolaw2301 :
Yes oh, Amen.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 so all the explanation on "hapazo" refuting the direction implied from the phrase "caught up" is all invalid? It's like you didn't finish the whole video.
@@jaimzjnr7713 I honestly did not fully listen to the videos the first time. Someone else in another comment brought my attention to that. So, I listened through to the end.
However, besides the "Hapazo" explanation, we still have the 5th Seal in the book of Revelation where the saints appear in God's presence in HEAVEN where John "WENT UP".
We know that the RAPTURE comes after the man of lawlessness been revealed. It doesn't happen at the 5th seal, and proof of this can be seen in the fact that they did not appear there in "BODIES". That also contradicts his understanding of the scripture.
Exactly ❤
God bless you Apostle
Amen, God bless this apostle. He is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
He made a striking revelation about Adam. I appreciate that but After listening to the message I came here to make comment concerning the paradise the preacher talked about that believers go to after they
. Jesus is the only way to heaven. Before he came Saints go to paradise in hades when they die but after His resurrection He took all of them with Him to heaven. When He resurrected the bible said that there were many people that resurrected with Him.
Besides, if you look at all the accounts of people that had an experience of heaven, most of them talks about ascending to heaven and not descending to hades. I have not seen or heard of any genuine testimony that talks about going to paradise in hades after death. It's either going to hell or to heaven.
Through the death and resurrection of Christ, saints now have access to heaven after death. This is where Pst AROME OSAYI got it wrong. The next thing he said that struck me which I am researching to verify is where he said that the OUTER DARKNESS is not HELL. but a kind of purging center where the saints who did not measure up to the standards are kept till they are ready. It seems to agree with the catholic Doctrine of purgatory.
He made a reference to it in his previous message on Underworld ad that's what I came to check out. He released some powerful revelations which I appreciate and agree to except for this ones about paradise I just mentioned. Then I am not yet convinced and satisfied with that of outer darkness. He may be right or wrong, but it's now a subject I am going to do a research on.
You guys can tell me what you think about the outer darkness. Because if you read how Jesus described it, you will discover that he described it the same way he described hell;, a place of torment and gnashing of teeth.
Read Evangelist Peter Tan's Book "The Spiritual World" it contains a lot of information on this matter. God bless
You are right
Huuuuuuuuuun, we tread on Holy grounds. The doctrine of purgatory, though much maligned because of d abuses of RCC clergy, is truth. Our Father, in His great mercy, has prepared a means of correction/reformation/restitution for His children who died unprepared and unfit for His immediate presence at their death. It takes the PURE to appear before consuming Fire.
By d PURE I mean confession and up to date forgiveness of all sins. 1Cor.3:15
Just as one of the contributors wrote, Jesus told one of the thieves by His side that "today you will meet Me in paradise". Many saints in our days die and at the point of death Angels came to usher them to heaven.
Very true!!
I agree strongly and I've known this before by God's grace
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Thanks for fresh insight. The outer darkness, according to Apst. Arome is a place of reformation/restitution akin to d RCC doctrine of purgatory. Do you have any opinion on this?
@@lolasobande8663 :
Purgatory is doesn't exist. Jesus teachings in the bible only reflected three places;
Heaven, Abraham's Bosom(Paradise) and Hades.
I believe scripture tells us that the outer darkness is clearly a place of torment. I don't agree with his teaching on this.
Outer darkness is the darkness found outside the kingdom of Light as the name suggests.
Luke 13:28
28“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves THROWN OUT."
I personally believe that it is an expulsion from the kingdom of God. Death has always been associated with sorrow(weeping) and Destruction with immemse pain(Gnashing of Teeth).
So, these people who were unfruitful will be thrown out of the kingdom where they share a portion with the hipocrites.
Matthew 24:48-51
48But suppose THAT SERVANT IS WICKED and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. (He is a drunkard-1 Corinthians 6:10- tells us that drunkards don't inherit God's kingdom)
50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the HIPOCRITES, where there will be WEEPING and GNASHING OF TEETH.
The real question now is this; Who are the hipocrites??(I personally think the pharisees met that description).
Where are the pharisees today?? I don't think they are in heaven or paradise. They can only be in Hades(Matthew 23:13-15).
So, I believe somehow, outer darkness is a term used to qualify one who has been expelled from the kingdom of God to a spiritual place of death and destruction. It can only be the Lake of Fire and Hades.
I think that the believers who lived as hipocrites that died before Jesus return will be in Hades, missing the first ressurection. That is how they will be "thrown out of the kingdom". Then those who will be alive at the second coming will be put to death and will remain in Hades until the White Throne Judgment where they will be cast into the Lake of Fire.
Luke 12:47-48
47“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
(These two servants have one thing in common. They were disobedient but the reasons for disobedience differed. "My people STILL PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE" though they are "MY PEOPLE" and the blows of their judgment be fewer).
So, yes, I disagree with him on that teaching about outer darkness. "Outer darkness" is a term used to point to the fact that the person was of the Light at some point but they got thrown out.
Not all, some souls stay under the alter of God crying to him daily not from hades but from the alter of God. His children will not be in darkness or be stranded in hades and sheol but unto the alter basin there they will wait and will not expirience the bounties of resurrection until the Lord's day.
It would be nice if the apostle would take a look at what William Branham taught on the subject.
Unfortunately, William Branham was not called to be a teacher. Actually, his ministry suffered in the latter stages because he deviated from his calling as a prophet and started to major as a teacher, and taught many things that were not sound.
Every minister is called to teach, but not every minister is a teacher. Certain teachings, such as establishing and correcting doctrine, should be reserved for teachers that God has given the grace.
Apostle Arome is fully aware of Branham's teachings as I have heard him comment on them many times. I have also read books by other fathers that have commented on Branham's ministry.
@@tsalira But here Apostle Arome is not given to teach this subject. He has missed it
Please where can we get the complete version of this clip. Thanks
You read my mind sir😅
Can I get the link to the full teaching sir?
Do we baptize in the name of Jesus or father son holyspirit
As he rightly said GEHENNA and PARADISE are two separate things apostle used the word compartment
Gehenna is translated hell and this word is derived from the Hebrew Word ge-hi nom, hinnom, it also called Tophet or the valley of dead bones (Jer.31:40)
Jesus used the symbolism of Gehenna to describe a place of everlasting punishment. Mark 9:43, Luke 12:5.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@Ajiboye Adeleye :
Why??
@Ajiboye Adeleye :
The door to paradise in EDEN was shut to fallen man because of sin.
Suddenly the door was being reopened as Jesus died.
What then to you is the difference between PARADISE and Abraham's Bossom??
@Ajiboye Adeleye Why should he delete it?
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Thank you Nnamdi for this. Our people don't have time to do personal research and study with the Holy Spirit. They just follow whatever they hear. Especially if the teacher is widely respected. Thinking the teacher can never make mistake.
Please can someone throw more light on the parable of the 10 virgins: 5 wise and 5 foolish , further more on what Apostle Arome revealed?
@Nnamdi Enekwa , I understand, but my question is when Jesus died did he fly to haven to paradise, and then come back to the world to show up to his disciples and then leave again to haven, waiting for the end of the age to take us home to haven with him. Why some people who died long before Jesus's death showed up on earth when Jesus was giving up his spirit?..... Does it mean those people came from paradise, which is in heaven?
2 Corinthians 12:1-4 KJV
It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. [2] I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. [3] And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) [4] How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
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Paradise is where the third heaven is
@Nnamdi Enekwa -I believe that the Apostle is right. Because when Jesus Died first, he went to paradise or Hades to defeat the Devil to take back the key to life and death. So we know paradise and hades are not in the heavens. When he rose from the dead, he had never been to any havens. He said to his disciples that he had gotten back all authority in even and on earth. He went to the mountain with his disciples, and he flew to heaven; then angle appeared to the disciples of Jesus, saying that the same way you see him leaving through the sky is the same way you will see him coming from the haven. Or otherwise, there will be the third coming of Jesus. So what I mean is if paradise was up there in the haven, then when Jesus died, he flew in the sky to the heavens to go to paradise and then came down on the earth to go to the bottom pit of hades to defeat the devil to take the keys of life and death. Do you mean that Jesus as a man or in the human body, already came from heaven to earth a second time, and now we're waiting for the third coming of Jesus? Please let us know if Jesus physically went to heaven twice while on earth. Thanks.
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Hmmn, most of the things said we're not specified in the Bible... Just as the Catholic Church taught about purgatory and people rejected it
The subscription ad is too much. It's quite irritating cos it's interrupting the message
Sorry about that. We will work on it
Direction is intresting it can be both up or down....do you realise that the Sun which is up is usually besides you when you look at The solar system?
The most important thing is to struggle to make heaven at last, whether you will paradise before heaven, it doesn't matter
True
@Patrick, Exactly. All these eschatological explanations don't matter to me oo.
Well, the most important thing is not to struggle to make heaven, because you can make heaven and not make the Kingdom of God......to make heaven all you need is your spirit salvation, which is Justification, like the thief on the cross, he just believe...but to make the Kingdom of God that is coming on the earth, you need your Spirit, Soul and Body to be kept blameless until the coming of our Lord. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until that day when our Lord Jesus Christ comes again.
That was what Paul was talking about.... also when Jesus said, "the meek shall inherit the earth" or when he told his disciples in Matthew 19Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, Truly I say to you, in the new age [the Messianic rebirth of the world], when the Son of Man shall sit down on the throne of His glory, you who have [become My disciples, sided with My party and] followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
I hope this helps.
Good question 🤔 Thank you for the answer. Might Man of God🙏 I have a question that comes up a lot if a person committed suicide where do they go? It's a oftenly asked question
I remember Jesus talking about the trader (Judas Iscariot) " It would been better if not born?- Jesus said 🤔 please can you do a video on this topic?
1 John 3:15
Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a MURDERER, and you know that NO MURDERER has ETERNAL LIFE residing in him.
Suicide is self murder. Thou shall not do murder. This scripture is clear that they will go to hell and await the judgement unto the lake of fire.
What do you want to know about Judas?? I might be able to help through the grace of God.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 right on point 🙌
@@godishere4 :
Glory to God my brother. All glory to Him.
Even Osayi Arome himself has told numerous stories of how he went up to Heaven where he met Jesus, Abraham, Joel, John Knox, and many other people who died in Christ. So, was it in the Paradise, a compartment of Hades, that he met all these great men who died in Christ?
The soul of a believer in Christ who dies does not go down, as Osayi Arome suggests. When a believer dies, his soul goes back to its Maker, who is God.
In 2 Corinthians 12: 2-4, Paul narrated the story of a “man” who was caught UP into paradise.
“I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was CAUGHT UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."
Paradise isn’t some kind of temporary holding place for dead Christians. The thief went into paradise. The apostle Paul went up into paradise after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s just a term to describe the glories of heaven. He went there, heard inexpressible words which a man is not permitted to speak. It was a place of indescribable glory, joy and satisfaction.
Paradise is up in Heaven in the presence of God, and it is not one of the two compartments of Hades.
Paradise used to be in the heart of the earth. He is right about that part. But I believe the name shifted from the heart of the earth to the new location in Heaven where the saints await ressurection.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Can you prove this scripturally ?
You're wrong .. Paradise is here and not in heaven . no one is going to live in heaven ..we are all coming back to a new earth after judgment to live forever.Heaven is for God and the angels
@@vincentjohn9501 :
A paradise is a place where the throne of God is perfectly established amongst men. It is not yet here but it will be in the future when God is enthroned on earth.
@@mikahel.m.i9217 I will give you proof before the end of the day.
In messages like this, I suggest you listen to Men of God like Pastor W F Kumuyi, you'll see scriptural evidence that shows that Christians who died in Christ are in Heaven already not in hades/grave...pls let's be careful... pls let's developer the attitude of preaching the word of God only, the pure word of God, it has sustained the faith that you met, so called mystery and semantics did not preserve the Faith... There is No waiting after death!
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 thank you very much... The only problem is how to unteach any error we preach as children of God, the reason we need to be careful of what we preach...I pray God grants us and the man of God(Arome Osayi) enlightenment in the areas needed... Amen.
@@israelofgod.victor.1522 : Amen, I stand in total agreement with you.
Hallelujah
Comparison Gehenna and Hades
Gehenna is different from Hades
1) Hades is a temporary place of the dead where only the soul exist in both spirit and soul.
2)the suffering in Gehenna is eternal while the suffering in Hades is temporal.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 100%...thats exactly the reason I said he missed it on this one..
@@mubangansofu7469 :
You are right.
Wow thanks for this inside I'm grateful
Jesus my God
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
God bless you, you are very accurate on this, but I believe that our teachings must come from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, we have no right to teach what the Lord has not taught us ourselves, that why I believe arome need correction. I know that you have been taught by the Spirit of God before you could be this accurate on this subject. Once again thank you.
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@@Confirmnews1 :
Amen, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I was taught by the LORD on this. All the glory belongs to Him. He teaches us His word. I m sure the LORD would have already shown him his error.
Thanks for the clarity and direction!! How I wish everyone child born of God..eat the scroll and allow the lead of spirit of God for all directions!!
@@bwiredenis898 :
Truth is that he actually made a valid point about Paradise and the Third HEAVEN being two different experiences by that man 14 years ago. I can see that from the scripture. However, there are still other scriptures like Rev 6 that SEEM to contradict his teaching on this.
Was that ALTAR under which the persecuted souls were found in heaven or not?? I mean, we know that they got there as a result of Matthew 24:9
Also, one of the riders was death and Hades followed him. This same Hades and death were cast into the lake of fire, telling us that they are fallen spirits. How then can we say that paradise is in the custody of that fallen spirit called HADES. That would be bondage.
This paradise will still be in the presence of God, even after Hades is thrown into the lake of fire.
So, that is why I disagree with him, even with the explanation he gave so far, unless the location for the tree of life will change.
Amen. Lets pray for him to correct that point. Paradise is now in Heaven.
d apostles answer to d brother's question was both confusing & very wrong.
very wrong!
d answer to d brother's question is d millenial reign of Christ & His raptured saints.
1st we r raptured to heaven. 2nd, while in heaven, we r married to Jesus at d marriage supper of THE LAMB + receive our rewards. at dis time, d tribulation is happening on d earth for 7 years. . 3rd, after d tribulation, Jesus & His saints return to a beautiful earth & stay for 1000 years.
*What is the outer darkness in Matthew 22:13?*
outer darkness
In the Parable of the Wedding Feast, Jesus tells of a “wedding crasher” of sorts: a man in the wedding hall was discovered to have entered the feast without authorization. Jesus says that the king, the master of the feast, issued a dire command concerning the interloper: “Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness” (ESV).
Jesus uses the term “outer darkness” in the parable to describe a condition of great sorrow, loss and woe. It stands in vivid contrast to the brightly lit and joyous celebration attended by those who accepted the king’s invitation. Interpreting the wedding feast as heaven, the “outer darkness” must be the place of eternal punishment. Most Bible scholars agree that the phrase “outer darkness” refers to hell or, more properly, the lake of fire (Matthew 8:12; 13:42; 13:50; and 25:30,41).
The outer darkness of Jesus’ parable is called “blackest darkness” in Jude 1:13. Again, a place of judgment is the obvious meaning, since it is reserved for “godless men” (verse 4).
Perhaps the place of judgment is pictured as “dark” because of the absence of God’s cheering presence. “When you hide your face, they are terrified” (Psalm 104:29). God is called “light” in 1 John 1:5, and if He withdraws His blessing, only darkness is left. Throughout the Scriptures light symbolizes God’s purity, holiness, and glory. Darkness is used as a symbol of moral depravity (Psalm 82:5; Proverbs 2:13; Romans 3:12). Darkness can also refer to trouble and affliction (Job 5:12; Proverbs 20:20; Isaiah 9:2) and to death and nothingness (1 Samuel 2:9; Ecclesiastes 11:8; Job 3:4-6).
The outer darkness of judgment is accompanied by “weeping and gnashing of teeth.” The “weeping” describes an inner pain of the heart, mind, and soul. The word in the original denotes a bewailing or lamentation by beating the breast in an expression of immense sorrow. The “gnashing of teeth” describes an outward pain of the body. Taken together, the weeping and gnashing of teeth says hell is a place of indescribable spiritual agony and unending physical pain (see Luke 16:23-28). The outer darkness is a place of anguish, heartache, grief, and unspeakable suffering. Such will be the lot of all who reject Christ (John 3:18, 36).
Christ is the Light of the World (John 8:12). When one rejects the Light, he will be cast into eternal darkness. Just like the man in the parable, the one who rejects Christ will lose his chance for joy, blessing and fellowship and will be left with nothing but darkness and eternal regret
the "exterior darkness" or outer darkness is a place referred to three times in the Gospel of Matthew (8:12, 22:13, and 25:30) into which a person may be "cast out", and where there is "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming.
The phrase first occurs in Jesus' comment concerning the faith of the Centurion of Capernaum:
Matthew 8:11 'And I say to thee that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven: But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
The use of the term exterior darkness is in Jesus' parable of the wedding feast (also known as the parable of the marriage of the king's son). In this parable, a king arranged a wedding for his son, but the normal guests did not come; therefore, the king sent his servants to gather guests from off the street. One of these guests, however, appeared without the proper wedding attire. When the king asked, "Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?" the man was silent (Matt 22:12); therefore, the king said: "Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen. (Matt. 22:13-14, D-R.)
The third use occurs in the parable of the talents: "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."(Matthew 25:30).
Our works are either according to God's Word or according to men or our own hearts. The fire that will be used for testing is a metaphor for the Word of Jesus. Is your work according Christ's commandments? We will know! Many Believers believe in the Pastor than in Christ. Jesus Christ said we should love our enemies, many people are not in acceptance with that because their Pastors teach them otherwise so they cause, they hate, and pray hell on their enemies. Such things Will underscore the judgement of the Believer. We shall be rewarded for the works we have DONE. It is important that we teach what Jesus has commanded, not after the vain philosophies of men. Be careful.
Thanks so much for the insight Apostle but I think your introduction is quite misleading here because Prior to Jesus death and resurrection Saints who died goes to paradise in Hades which is still in the domain of the devil because remember Bible says he led captives in his train which means when Jesus died he went to hell and when he went there he led the saints of old who were captives free so after his resurrection Saints no longer go to hades, Apostle Paul says Absent from the body and present with the Lord..so all the saints who have died now are all present with the Lord in heaven..infact prior to Jesus death there were 3 personalities that were in heaven,Moses,Elijah and Enoch but as of now every believer who dies appears in heaven not hades...The reason for paradise in Hades was because Jesus hadn't died yet so when he came he died and went to hades to lead captivity captive..infact Bible makes the point that the old testament saints were also raised from the dead when Jesus rose from the dead and they went to show themselves in the holy city...
May God bless his word..
I think the message is quite clear. Let us, not debate about the saints. If I am not wrong, those who are led by the Spirit will not be judged. So these are the saints and they may already be in heaven.
However we need to understand that not all Christians are saints. They were never born again. Majority are carnal and living by the flesh. And they will be judged. As long as they have not gone through judgement they cannot go to heaven. Heaven is holy.
I know from the Spirit that there is a place called paradise. I know from scripture that on the 2nd coming of Christ, those in the grave will rise up first. I also know from scripture there is a place called outer darkness where there is gnashing of teeth. These are for unrepentant believers who do not walk in love.
From the book Heaven Is Real there are 2 places where most Christians will end up. One wearing blue robes and one grey robes.
I heard a testimony of a youth who saw his grandfather in blue robe on the day he passed on. I believe the grandfather is not a practising Christian because the children and grandchildren do not know the Lord.
@@huios974 😲
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 🤡🤡🤡🤡
If this is true that people go direct to heaven when they die, how then do u explain 1cor 15:51-52; 1thesallonian 4:16-17
I saw this in my dream the Lord took me to that place the gate 2 angel stood at the entrance so when the angel open the gate I saw dead people I saw my father looking fresh that place is very quiet and beautiful the angel as me to go and talk to my father I talk to him and told me so many things he gave me letter that I should give it my brother who's is a pastor when I open the letter it was written with red biro I don't understand it but he said if I give the letter to him he will understand I ask the angel which place is this he said this is where all believer will stay on till the second come of Jesus, also they used to open this gate for human being once in 2000 years. He shouted I should go the angel want to close the gate and I ran out and the gate was close and disappear I found myself inside tick bush . So I told my brother what I saw but he didn't pay attention to my words bcos he is a man of God, that red biro means danger is coming but I cannot figure it out on till the problem started he was attack in the dream he nearly died but God restore him back but he suffer for more than 6month.
Wow this is serious that simply means those who died in Christ especially our love ones they do interceed for us
How about Stephen, the Bible record that while Stephen was stoned he lift up his eyes onto Heaven and saw the Lord Jesus welcoming him to Heaven
God bless you. This teaching is filled with errors! So disappointed...
Where did it say HEAVEN ?
@@J_a_s_o_n:
Can't you read??
Exactly, Stephen asked Jesus to RECEIVE his spirit.
Paradise is now in Heaven. The righteous go to Heaven when they die, to await the next great event which is the rapture or first resurrection.
So the righteous do not go through judgement day ?
please share the complete message
It's not a complete message Q & A
@@Kingdomechos ohh💔💔
@@Kingdomechos But can we still get access to the full recording of the live stream?
Please reach out and we can help you with the right teaching
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
Hades is hell according to scripture. The parable of Lazarus and the richman in Luke 16:22 clearly states paradise (Abraham's blossom) and hell (hades) as two separate places. Search the scriptures oh brethren.
Thank you jesus
After rapture,the Lord and His church will come back and rule for 1000 yrs..During that time satan will be bound to deceive no more for that period.
After that he will be released briefly.
Before that time,the sinners are still unressurrected Rev 20: gives that account. In Rev 6:9-11 all the dead from the tribulation appear by the alter in heaven,not in hades and they are told to wait a little more .....
Wonderful message! But too much noise of notification 🙄! We can't get focus on the message! Because you make too much noise 😒! Frankly only God can make people subscribe to a channel not the noise that you are making all the time
I deeply respect the teachings of apostle arome osayi and i listen to a lot of them. but with all due respect on this one I do not agree with the man of God.
I want to say that paradise is not beneath the earth.
When Jesus was on earth , paradise and hades(gehena) was located under the earth but when He rose from the death, Paradise was shifted from under the earth to Heaven.So paradise is no longer under the earth. Matthew 27:51-53 says the graves of the righteous people were opened and they came out the graves after His resurrection...He arose first and then all the righteous souls were raised to fulfill the word that He is the first born from the dead Revelations 1:5.....so at this point psalm 68:18 was fulfilled which says He led captivity captive(Ephesians 4:8-10).
So when Jesus ascended to Heaven, He took all righteous souls with Him .
1Thessalonians 4:14 says if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will BRING with HIM(Jesus) those who have fallen asleep...
So those who have fallen asleep in Jesus are with Him in paradise and He will Come with Them.
Acts 7:55-60
Stephen saw the son of man standing on the right Hand of God and he said LORD Jesus receive my spirit and he fell asleep thus when a child of God dies his spirit will go directly to the LORD and not down the earth, the apostle paul said Iam hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ....Philippians 1:23
Remember that a witch from en dor was able to summon the spirit of the great man of God( the prophet Samuel) to come up from under the earth because by that time paradise was under the earth but today no witch can summon the true child of God who has died in the LORD because paradise has been shifted from under the earth to Heaven.
This topic is so deep it needs the revelation of the HOLY SPIRIT to fully understand it...
No, when believers die they go to heaven now. I heard the Apostle in one video that he was taken to heaven in a revelation and saw Abraham and John Knox, now why should it be Hades if he saw these two saints in heaven ?
I submit that all believers, holy and ready, go to heaven when they die. For unbelievers and all sinners it is straight way hell.
What if I cannot find a good church to use my talent. I thought the judgement was based on our robes.
Please brother 🙏 !
Stop doing that ! please ! Please !please ! That's too much noise of notification! As if you spoiled the message
Read the bible yourself and understand for yourself that Paul says Christ will come with all those who died in christ and that consists the first resurrection 1Thes5....
I disagree. Strongly.
After Jesus descent to hades be let the saints to heaven.
When John had visions In Revelation he encountered elders in heaven.
The Word elder is given to a man.
Reword your sentence.
Study again or study more
@@ucykendrick8409 Do you agree with Apostle?
I also have more questions in his answer......I think we need more guidance from the Holy Spirit
@@Kingdomechos Yes I do.
you people are all talking trash the apostle is correctly correct ask God to help your understanding all he said
Can I get a link to the complete lecture
It wasn't a full sermon but a Q & A
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 Who are the "Fathers of the faith"...??!! I have been hearing that quite many times and wondered who is referred to as such..
@@andreasuupindi7546 :
There are many of them. I m talking about the key people that God used to spark REVIVALS after the church was planted by the 12.
John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield... I m talking about the key revivalists in church history who taught that we go to HEAVEN when we die. It was quite bold to go against such a teaching without really digging into scriptures.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 It seems He gave enough scriptural references to clarify his points sir
You keep make the bell icon. It’s annoying. Stop it
God didn't create man to live in heaven and everything is going back to the original status quo before the fall.
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Thank you to everyone that has subscribed. Let’s keep subscribing guys.. thank you
Jesus went to hades,a place of punishment for sinners,as in Lk 16 : so that you and me dont go there 1Pet3:18-20 . When you go out of your costume,the body remains and you gravitate to hades or the paradise of God that Christ promised the thief at the cross. The blood of Christ is all you need and there is no further purging when you go as a christian....It is the Catholic who teach about purgatory,without sccriptural back up. This is not in scriptures for us. And about us going to be with Christ upon leaving the bodies Paul also refers to it in Philipians1:21-23...where he says I desire to depart and be with Christ....Where is Christ? In hades,a place of punishment?
Where are the souls that arrive at the alter in Rev6:9 after being killed in the coming great tribulation? These are all in heaven,and not in hades or hell as falsely taught here that ppo go to hades including saints. Pray over this before believing it. Hear from God
Sadly you are WRONG.
People have to be judged first.
Lake of FIRE
Hell
Heaven
Paradise
@@J_a_s_o_n Look for Kevin Zadai,a man who finished his minstry at about 30 and was asked to come back again for reassignment to do what he is doing now.He is a very reliable minister if you listen to his testimony.
Otherwise,I have noticed that we Christians need to.learn to read the bible alpne and be prayerful so that we tap.imto discernment too,otherwise we may be misled by some zealous,yet not really knowledgeable ministers. Just for another issue I have met about Apostle Arome is that he is on record saying that TB Joshua was a sooth sayer,and not from God and that alll who have been to scoan need deliverance...The worst part was when he mentioned that he saw it in the spirit realm about TBJ!
To me and to any one who has a revelation from God about TB J that is something worrying,because automatically we know that it was not a revelation from God the Father of Jesus. He means to say even.Apostle Selman needs deliverance because he was even prayed.for by TBJ....What am I trying to say?So called men of God can miss it too,just as Elijah missed.it in thinking that "I am the only.one left....",hence need for discernment on our part and studiousness of scripture....The fact that someone claims to have spiritual encounters does not mean they are correct in everything....They can even encounter demons too,as in the case of lying thar TB.Joshua was a sooth sayer and not a manof God....Just watch Emmanuel Tv! Is what is happening there now satanic?, Watch his spiritual sons too,are they really soooth sayers? There Wiseman Hurry and Daniel and apostle John Chi in Cameron...Watch tjem and see if they seem like satanists....
@@J_a_s_o_n Try to akso check out the testimony of Mary Baxter on her encounter...she is a woman of God....
Gehenna or Hell is presently unoccupied, this will happen in the future when God judges the wicked angels along with evil humanity that is where Hell and Gehenna will become occupied or inhabited.
WRONG.
Lake of FIRE and heaven
Hell will be thrown into the lake of fire
@@J_a_s_o_n once and again you need to spend more time on scripture disciple am not here to defend doctrine or defend my thesis on a subject. I do respect ✊ your views, opinions etc. and I still stand by it Gehenna or he’ll is currently not occupied period.
why do you do amateur work by putting @kingdomechos at the center of the video. Really boring
Open your channel please
Gehenna is actual valley in the city of Jerusalem, in the bible it was a place of child sacrifice remember the reign of king Josiah onward, Gehenna is a garbage dump where there’s constant fire 🔥 is burning refuse. Jesus used Gehenna as a final judgement of the wicked.
Typology sir don't be confused
@@J_a_s_o_n am not confused disciple,am very clear on this very subject. The subject of heaven and hell has been distance from the pulpit when it comes to this generation.
And apostle brought it to light that is that matters to me thank you.
Born again Christians don’t go to hades .. the go to Paradise , when the man on the other side of Christ on the cross told Jesus I want to be with you in paradise Christ granted him his wish , also Christ went to hades to redeem those there who were waiting for him , when u read revelation believers await there not in hades .. God bless you
You are correct
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
@@nnamdienekwa4222 exactly, that is why is good to learn the word of God by yourself he is good and he is also human is not all the time he can be perfect . Someone will see this and say he is false teacher , but it’s not so , if u admit he is human u won’t get carried away
@@madeselfmade4476 : Amen.
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The appointment for one to die is never talking about natural death. This death is the wages of sin. Jesus died that death. Study your Bible. I'm sure you know that people saw their dead walking the street when Jesus arose. All who die in Christ, his Spirit goes to God in CHRIST while the body returns to the earth. Remember that all Believers are already in Christ and have made heaven the day they became Born Again. Again, judgement is not after We die, but based on our choice of Jesus Christ or not. Believers are not to be judged for sin because they have been judged by faith. Read John 5. As you believed you passed from death unto Life, else you are already dead. That's judgement. In heaven Believers are not to be judged for sin or Righteousness but for the work done on Faith.
Hebrews 9.27- end . Please ready and understand for your self, once to dies means Jesus died and we died in him . No waiting and all these wrong explanation.
Error and error, we have been judged in christ and declared not guilt . If any man be in christ , full stop .
Too much error in this teaching
preach yours for people to hear my friend. bring your version. Jelousy and pride will kill you
Corporate Judgement is not same with individual judgment. Just as Corporate glorification is not same with individual glorification.
Though corporately we are seated with Christ in the heavenly places. But individually we still need to overcome and then qualify the right to sit...
Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Though corporately we died in Christ on the cross, nevertheless we are individually alive. And if we do not appropriate this death in our individual life. Then we shall die.
But if through the spirit we appropriate this death, then we enter into resurrection life reality.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
@@okoroaforpatrick9010 No believer in Christ goes to hell bro
@@mgbuowa6990 Revelation 21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
II Peter 3:17
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Romans 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Romans 11:20
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Romans 11:21
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
He is 1000% biblically wrong.
Wrong.
What is wrong?
you sound like antichrist. How do you say the servant of God is wrong and you have nothing to present? You are completely empty and jelous. Child of the devil.
Oga apostle! Your position on Adam sounds like heresy!
Are you aware Adam was created in God's image? A sinless man! Don't preach from your "head" sir!
So you also believe christians don't go to heaven immediately they die??? This is ridiculous sir!
Wrong teaching..may the spirit of God help us
You have ZERO response?🤡🤡
Apostle this is a strange teaching. Scripture is not on your side on this at all. I find it strangely heretic.
It is okey and possible for Apostle to say I dnt know, to some questions. Issues about heaven and where people go , need a deep prophetic insight. U must be able to see the dead and talk to them, talk to those that died in christ , those that dint die in christ. There are prophets who move in such realms like Prophet Samuel kakande. He explains them better. Apostle Aroma is gifted at teaching faith and prayer but not these topics of after life. He is clearly struggling and the preaching seems so lacking.
Repent and run away from chalatans
@@jessicamujambere7033 Go deep in your search for christ. U will find out how misinformed you are.
Have an open mind my brother Timothy that is all I can say
@Nissi , am free and open minded
God bless this apostle but he is right on some things and wrong on others.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus was clear that for the 3 days and 3 nights He was definitely going to be in the HEART OF THE EARTH.
Apostle is correct about this.
Luke 23:43
Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”
The language "TODAY" falls within the time frame of those 3 days. So, paradise WAS definitely in the heart of the earth. And so it WAS in the same place as Hades at Christ's death.
Again apostle is correct up until this point.
However, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3 tells is the present or post ressurection location of paradise.
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.
3And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows-
4was caught up to PARADISE and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Post ressurection, PARADISE is in the THIRD HEAVEN at the moment not in Hades. That is why we say people go to heaven if they die in Christ. This doctrine is sound.
Jesus led the saints of old to heaven upon ressurection.
Apostle got this one wrong. It doesn't make him a false teacher because he is a fallible human too. But he should be careful not to talk about things he is not sure of, especially if the doctrines of the Fathers of the faith seems to contradict it.
Also, people should learn to test what everyone is saying with the word regardless of their titles.
God bless you guys.
There’s now no judgement for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Romans 8:1
I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life.
John 5:24
Also hebrews 9 verse 27 must be read upto verse 28 to get it’s full context, otherwise you may fall into error like how Apostle here have.
FURTHERMORE, IT IS BETTER TO JUST KEEP QUEIT TO SOME QUESTIONS WE DO NOT KNOW FOR THE WELL BEING OF THE DOCTRINE BEING FED TO THE BELIEVERS.
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There is no condemnation for those in Christ but for those without Christ.
The judgement seat of Christ for believers is not for condemnation but for crown.
I HOPE THIS HELPS
Most of you should sit and study...
I Corinthians 11:32
But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
Sir God will judge ur work not you but if your work is found to meet requirements you get the reward but if it doesn't you will b punished it's like dt. Ask yourself about the 10 virgins Apostle is right
@@sanelisiwembona9743 punished in what way ?
@@mgbuowa6990 that I dnt knw but I think there rooms u wl not enter in heaven this s my opinion
From the first verse he quoted, he's wrong. It is appointed unto man to die, and after that judgement, was talking about Jesus.
Believers in Christ will not come into judgment, but have been passed from death to life already at the moment of believing. John 5:24, (go and read the verse and even the context before replying me) why is that so? Because Jesus was judged for us on the cross.
These so called apostles flying around these days need to sit down and believe the simplicity of the scriptures, they read too much meaning into texts, and that causes them to lose out on what the context is saying.
At least you should learn to honour people's labour and not just condemn them. what is the meaning of the Apostles flying around? it shows you only have head knowledge of the word you are yet to receive the life and the spirit of the word. Don't you study the manner of correcting people from the scripture.
Thank you very much.
any child of God who died in Christ is not in Hades/grave, He is in Heaven. That's the word of God, it says, blessed are the dead in Christ from now henceforth... Search the scriptures...
@@samueladeniji5370 I don't think you understand the gravity of the scriptures when it talked about how we should avoid teachers whose teaching isn't wholesome. I've listened to a ton of their teachings and these apostles teach wrong doctrine, it's not even wrong to call it heresy. With the seriousness of the tone of the scriptures, if I see one of my disciples or students listening to their teachings, I would rebuke them sharply! Right from the basic understanding of the simplicity of the gospel, their teachings on the foundation of the death burial and resurrection of Christ has been wrong, I wouldn't advice even my enemies to listen to their teachings, I wouldn't expect you to understand, at least not on this space, but I will never honor false teachers, not even supported scripturally.
@@manuelprime7881 he teaches error a lot. He needs to be tutor correctly. I perceive him to be a baby Christian his apostolic title notwithstanding.
You neither provided proper scriptural references nor properly explain the one you provided and from you speakings one can readily deduce that you either don't have proper spiritual upbringing or you don't even submit under any authority. common Bible knowledge tells you not to correct elders but intreat them. May God deliver and help your disciples before you destroy their lives
Brother Arome, pls limit your teachings to the obvious: faith, righteousness and the totality of the Christian's earthly sojourn. Don't venture into the events of the afterlife.
Why not, if such secrets have been revealed to him by God and he has been permitted to share, why must he keep quiet
@@mrsxber1916 Human beings should learn to keep to the confines of revealed scripture. Don't assume or presume what the scripture draws no conclusions on by adding what's not there ! There's this temptation to impress your followers that know and have mastered every topic in the the book, by embellishing the stories. Besides, God won't give a revelation that would not be corroborated by the logos, written scriptures --- the bible.
I personally don’t think he has gone out of range,pulpits now a days don’t talk about after life. The new offsprings don’t want to accept that there hell and heaven so brother I understand where u are going BUT someone need to teach this concept or where we are going after we die.
Seconded brother.
That's what our woke generation wants to listen, and most of these things been said are just a drifting from this scriptures and you see who don't read their bibles or esteem extra biblical teachings shouting and clapping.
And by what authority do you think you can tell him what and what not to teach. Why did the Bible ask you to study to show yourself approved and please what are you supposed to do to the word of truth again?