Hot Water Shower System - Heat Exchanger - Van Life Build
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2021
- In this video I install a Glind Heat Exchanger. This uses your coolant system to heat water for a shower or sink. I am using mine to heat water for showers when I am on the trail. I also install a CVT Shower Awning. I like this system because it is integrated into the van build and I don't have to store extra components like the hot water heater that I used before.
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Your Primal Outdoors - Camping and Overlanding, I am living the van life in my Ford E350 4x4 Van traveling around the remote public land system in Oregon
That river looks awesome. Can't wait to one day explore this landscape!
You Americans have no idea how fortunate you are to have so much beautiful wilderness. The quality of the water in that river is outstanding.
Nice set-up on the shower...
Just want to say I really enjoyed your videos it inspires me to one day build up my 2000 E350 just waiting for biden's high gas prices to go away.....
Enjoyed the rap video commercial while watching this😀
A shower is a very good thing! 👍😎🌲🇨🇦💧
That’s going to come in handy in the cooler weather approaching 👏🏽🔥
Thanks. This video was just what I needed. 🍻
Thanks for putting time in on making this video. It was very informative!
Your welcome
Very nice system upgrade.
You are really dialing in the van for maximum usage and efficiency.
I like that folding shower stall.
Your vendors, AJ’s, Dirt Road Garage, etc. are amazing resources.
Happy Camping
I installed my heat exchanger by taping into the the cars heater hoses then you can controls the water temp by moving the temperature control of the cars heater
Another advantage your set-up, is that since the heater system typically bypasses the thermostat, and blocks retain a good bit of heat, one can get hot water for quite some time after shutting down the engine. Of course, operation after shut down requires a separate circulation pump.
My suburban had a factory rear HVAC system that I deleted. I considered using the system for a water to water exchanger like here.
Thanks for the ideas!
Hello Jason , thumbs UP !
Cool
Thx Jason, great balance between the installation and end result testing without going on too long. Great Aussie made product.
Thank you, I am really loving it so far, it simplified showering in the field.
Jason
nice update Jason...interesting!... btw if you'd like to see that overlook in Owyhee Canyon you featured in your RMT Overland Jeep video "They Gave Me a Jeep Gladiator"....well I got there on my own and made some video of it and the process....if you're bored and want to see the view again maybe go have a look...
Jason, I truly enjoy your videos. That is never in question. Would you consider to a full on restoration of all the flexible lines, hoses and reapply the electrical connection grease to the entire van??? In turn, eliminating potential points of failure. It's your wagon, push it or pull it. Cheers, Mate.
Another pump you can try is an rv water pump they have built in pressure monitor valve
It can shut off or run slower depending on output
Mount it next to heate exchanger
I do have a internal RV pump for my van in house water needs that is hooked to my 7 gallon inside water tank, but I didn’t want to pull from that water source for my showers. The Joocla pump does have a pressure on and off built in and being external I can take it to the water source which is really convenient.
Jason
Looks good. Sure beats warming up water on a fire or stove and using a gravity bag set up.
Wow, very interesting. Thanks for the video.
Try running a aluminum heat shield on bottom of that heat exchanger because remember the cold sits lower than heat
Half of your audience is disappointed that there was no steamy shower scene. Haha Couldn't you also pump the water up to your rack top shower thing so you don't have to listen to the van run? Pretty neat item.
That’s awesome. My wife said if I do all the work of getting the water, warming it up and deploying the curtain she would use it 😂 imagine that. That’s very cool 👍🏼
really cool upload Primal Outdoors - Camping and Overlanding. I crushed the thumbs up on your video. Keep on up the excellent work.
Very informative. Thx for giving me an idea for my truck camper.
I enjoy how involved you get into your rig modifications, even when you get a shop to install a component. Other guys just drop their truck off and a video later, out it rolls with 150K worth of improvements. Not you, you work alongside or follow them step by step. You have an intimate knowledge of how your vehicle and sub-systems work and will repair them yourself. That shows the sincerity of your lifestyle.
Now, like your LP tank, you need a small insulated hot water tank tucked up under the van. Have the system circulate while you drive and you’ll have hot water in the tank ready to go for shower or washing dishes. Of course, if there’s no room and it affects your cleanse, is there room inside the van for the tank? Ahh heck, it looks like it works fine as is…. Fun project. Thanks for sharing.
recirculation tank would be a good option for sure, I don’t see myself going that route but I still think it could be a great setup.
Jason
@@PrimalOutdoors Ok, I understand. I guess it’s still easier to run the engine than to say boil 5 gallons in of water using your Propane and poring that into a jug or just drawing out of big pot. Probably burn less Diesel and you have more of it than Propane. Can’t remember. Was your plan to run the pump, fill a 5 gallon jug, then recycle that using heater with van running until it was up to temp, turn engine off and pump out of jug for shower? Or were you just going to go directly from cold water source through heat exchanger to shower head? Navy type shower with on and off shower head could result in extreme heated water with each initial turn back on of the water. If you keep the water flowing, I thought you were not happy with the temperature out of heat exchanger? Really going to enjoy seeing what works for “you”. Thanks for sharing the build and experiments along the way.
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Amazing! So cool! Thanks!
Pretty cool. Since I have a diesel van I'm looking at a diesel water heater like a webasto? Water could get as hot as you want and already have diesel. Don't have to run the van.
if you can slow down the pump the water could be warmer.
Awesome bro!!!
Pretty cool set up buddy I like how you can pull water out of the lake or the river I’ve got my system hooked up to a road shower on the side of my truck I also run a small little compressor to keep the air in the road shower always up and then of course I have a propane bottle running through my little hot water heater that I hang up on the side of the truck but I do like how you have the CV shower cover integrated into the side of your roof rack gives me some idea on how to redo my pop out tent always had a problem with the pop out tent dressing room tent I should say trying to fly away when the wind blows but if I can integrate something like that that folds out I can attach it to the top part anyway give me a great idea keep the videos coming
Nice video and explanation. I’m new and just subscribed.
Love your vids!
Sorry for this Random Question.... Im New to your Channel and Im Learning Alot.. Question For you... Why A Van And Not A Ambulance
Another great informative video! Vary little to wrong with that set up!
Thank you it is very simple and easy to use and doesn’t take up space in my in van storage areas.
Jason
Or you could buy an Earthcruiser lol
I'm kidding, I don't have 200k either.
Very informative like all your videos. That'll be a nice addition!!
Hi mate, Recently i had a heat exchanger for my transmission, i replaced it with a dedicated radiator for the oil from the transmission as ford made it so complicated as it also connected to a thermostat housing that was plastic, so i put a bypass hose on that but this gives me an idea to salvage that heat exchanger as it was just going to sit on a shelf, its full aluminum design and works well.
Thanks.
Yay!
That’s a awesome set up Jason. Have you checked into transfer flow tanks in Chico ca they make and install custom gas and fuel tanks for in-bed and under body replacing the factory tank with a larger tank. I have a 42 gal in bed-combination toolbox fuel tank. My neighbor got a factory replacement for his short bed f250 adding an additional 30 gal of fuel. Great local company really friendly staff. Would make the long trips maybe a little less worrisome not having to do many fuel ups. Thanks for the video
Problem is California regulations. Especially on the van tank swaps
I've been debating between this and a portable propane water heating system. Right now I'm leaning towards the propane heating system only for the fact that I don't have to run my rig to get hot water. It's a bulkier system for sure but if you want hot water first thing in the morning you don't need to worry about waking other people up with a running vehicle. It's more on demand. An idea for you though, tuck a pressure regulated self priming pump under the hood, that way you can have the pump shut off after your shower and not worry about the pump burning out and it's even more compact. All you have to do is move a jug to the front of your rig and drop the hose into it, turn it on and bam you're all setup for hot water
Great work Jason! Quite the set up this is turning into 👏💯
amazon has thermostatic mixing valves for 18$
cheap insurance, much cheaper than a skin graph
Cool install. I wonder if the long heater hose you added is limiting the coolant flow through the heat exchanger. It's can be surprising how added length of a hose can restrict flow. It would be interesting to know the temperature of the coolant into and out of the heat exchanger. If there is a large drop in temp, that might tell you that more coolant flow would help. It will also be interesting to know if the longer hose effects your vans heater effeteness.
Hay Jason,
I would like to know when will start doing camping videos instead of vlogs.
I really enjoyed the videos and photos you always posted???😥😥😥
Dennis from Delaware
I posted a camping video just last Sunday, lots of folks are enjoying the vlogs so I will be keeping a nice mixture of both on the channel.
Jason
@@PrimalOutdoors Right On Brother!!💯👍👌✌😉❣❗
That's a very interesting shower set up. My experience with shooting a laser thermometer into a silver bowl (reflective surface) is that the reading is not accurate at all. I have gotten low readings with this method.
Edit: I confirmed this by using a probe type thermometer at the same time as the laser.
IR thermal sensors will read the temperature of the reflection on a shiny surface. They are really only accurate looking at a matt black object. This becomes really clear when you use an IR camera. You can "see" the reflection of hotter and cooler objects in many surfaces.
@@marcericdavis To support your observation: I bought an Amazon Basics IR thermometer on sale for, I think, $15. I wasn't expecting much but I like to have one for each of my grills. It's the best IR thermometer I own. It even cane with "offset adjustments" for taking readings from various surfaces.
@0:35 you mentioned running the hot and cold fluids in the same direction through the heat exchanger? For max heat exchange, run them in opposite directions. Imagine this, you have hot and cold fluids entering into exchanger at the same end and a 'infinitely' long-enough exchanger, both outlets fluids will be the ruffly the same temperature coming out somewhere between the hot and cold temps based on the ratio of water flowing (volume/time, i.e. CFM) on each side. For one fluid path, flip the direction and the same "long-enough" exchanger, and the temps still be closer to each other but one end will have hotter fluids and the other end will have cooler fluids with an increase in heat exchanged between the two fluids. For heat exchangers, the greater the temperature delta the greater the heat exchange efficiency (one of the rules in thermal dynamics)... translation: raising or lowering 20 degrees is easier than raising/lowering 2 degrees. Make sure you are running the fluids in opposite directions in your heat exchanger.
Hey Man, just wanted to let you know I enjoy watching your channel! You have some awesome adventures and your video skills are amazing! Kind of new to actually subscribing but keep on keeping on!
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Cool video, always love when you post new content. But I would just pre-soap my butt, balls and pits and jump in that cold creek to rinse off and call it good, much quicker LOL
Ha!!! Way easier. Might be a risk though. Doesn’t take long getting hypothermia. Also, putting soaps n shit into the creeks isn’t stellar.
You do know that the van should to be on and you adjust the water by the heater control in the van ? I could not hear the van running.
Hey there, what did you do with your tiny trailer that you used with your two dogs?
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Informative. I might see about adding one to my rig. How long did you have to run the van to get it up to temp?
I think it only takes about 5 or 10 minutes to get up operating temp from a cold start
What about a solar pre-heater?
I was really curious how the heat exchanger would work. I was surprised it didn't heat it more than it did but I guess that joolca is running the water through pretty quick. I used the joolca at Overland Expo and discovered I could go through 5 gal pretty quick. Is 5 gal the size of that water canister you were using? Just curious. I got through my shower but just barely. I did waste some while I was setting it up and testing so I probably took a shower on 4gal but just curious how you managed that. running out in the middle would really stink LOL.
I've been thinking about a simple recirculating outdoor shower set up. I good way to shower just using water from a stream instead of hauling all that water and you get almost unlimited hot showers. A heat exchanger like that could work well for my idea.
If you reduce the flow rate coming out, it will heat up more. I do this with homebrewing when cooling the wort from boiling to 70F. The faster the liquid moves through the coil, the less heat it can absorb ( or in my case dissipate).
You can also recirculate into your jug to keep adding heat to the water
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Any concerns with cold weather and stuff freezing with the heat exchanger mounted horizontal (aka, not self draining)?
no because it will get blown out between uses
good solution.
What did you do with the propane gas water heater?????
Now you have to burn gasoline at $3.25+ a gallon 😔😔😔!!!
Dennis from Delaware
As mentioned in the video I get the added benefit of charging my in house battery system while the van is running and I can also choose to heat the interior as well that is three uses while van is running. The propane hot water heater only gave me one use and I had to take up space storing it.
Jason
I'm really torn between this system and a propane hot water heater......
The heat exchanger solution is slow, but a lot less fuss to deal with IMO when installing. You will need 2 lengthy hoses, one from the water tank to the motor compartment, and one back to your kitchen/shower. Propane needs a tank, proper gas hoses, extra safety measures, and needs to be refilled separately, but it will provide warm water 'instantly'.
Comes right out of the ground... I know what river you are on. Starts with an M and ends with an S. 🤪
Haha, Nope😂
@@PrimalOutdoors Did I spend almost a week there one time?
Okay Sir LOL, why don’t you rig up a device to lay in a steel pot where it puts water from a stream into a pot where it’s laying a fire pit like copper tubing than away from the fire and into a separate hope into your shower because the water will be boiling before you use, just ration the water like an RV living. Wet body down later than rinse
Reason: The government often imposes temporary or seasonal "burn bans" (fire restrictions) where we are not allowed to have a fire. The climate is too dry; there is too much risk of forest fire.
Just straight hot water can’t control the temperatures not a great set up
Like I mentioned in the video you can get a thermostatically controlled mixer valve but I chose not to because for my needs I didn’t see it necessary.
Jason
Or wrap an aluminum can around it, LOL
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