He Wakaputanga, The ACTUAL story part 2

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
  • #He Wakaputanga, #Te Tiriti O Waitangi, #The Treaty Of Waitangi

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  • @kinohunt3505
    @kinohunt3505 5 місяців тому +5

    I totally understand it as I come in my ancestors steps! & I will hard out honor He whakaputunga 1835

  • @chriselliott368
    @chriselliott368 Місяць тому +1

    Don't ask the government for funding. Don't ask them for anything! There's a very heavy ball on the end of that chain ......

  • @johntemoni6564
    @johntemoni6564 Рік тому +3

    Maori must give the History of the Chiefs mahi that allowed the only indigenous nation natives to be INSTITUTED as their own nation as a CONFEDERATION now research the difference between a Confederation a Federation and Sovereign law... India views its SUPEME COURT the peoples court ...no need to stay a sovereign SUBJECT when one is a Patriot to the Chiefs Declaration of independence 1835 that states ALL have equal rights under the DOI 1835.... We need to stop giving the infant discription, Where does this Chiefs Declaration of Independant's sit in International law ....ngamihi

    • @georgimarchionijob4204
      @georgimarchionijob4204 Місяць тому

      Absolutely on point. This is too much telling of the defacto Nz corporation story.

  • @puhigeoffreywaynefuimaonok8656
    @puhigeoffreywaynefuimaonok8656 2 місяці тому +1

    thanks Robert

  • @Chronicz120
    @Chronicz120 11 днів тому +1

    Maori don't own the land nor do pakeha, it was here before yous arrived. The question is who's contributed the most with in the time frame of arrival till the present day? We have to evolve with time not sit stagnant change is inevitable.

  • @johntemoni6564
    @johntemoni6564 Рік тому +2

    or don't you Rangatira know...if not research the Hitori from a Pakeha view from their legal perspective...And you will see the power of this doctrin which can't be denied in an international court ...Mauriora

    • @ruadogg5482
      @ruadogg5482 4 місяці тому

      👏 that's lion talk butha

  • @shanepotter9590
    @shanepotter9590 4 місяці тому +1

    The truth is reality stay woke

  • @AdmiringOceanSunset-sy7ys
    @AdmiringOceanSunset-sy7ys 3 місяці тому

    🤠🥰😇paimarire,māori,māui, he tangata he tangata he tangata! Tangata-whenua!!!

  • @DW_Kiwi
    @DW_Kiwi 6 місяців тому +2

    "The French are coming to take our land" That is the "bases and reason" James Busby got the far North Chiefs (It wasn't "their" idea!!) to sigh a document called He Wakaputanga. They could even come together and form a sensible government and form laws. The Chief were too engrossed in war and utu!! Their only contribution was to choose a flag. And that was Busby idea as well. Shipping trading in early NZ, needed a flag (to define the country) to trade!!
    This guy is talking hog wash

  • @jamescrydeman540
    @jamescrydeman540 4 місяці тому +1

    The actual story is Maoridom ceded sovereignty for equality, read the whole document put it together and that is what you get and it is the only thing that could have been arrived then. Nothing has changed since. There hasn’t been another treaaty signed has there ?

    • @jonathantepairi2664
      @jonathantepairi2664 4 місяці тому +7

      Bloke for your statement that maori ceded sovereignty is like you telling your neighbour that you have a signed doccument that says you are now owner to his house and you now have governance over his wife snd kids ,and no matter what he has in his yard now belongs to you,,,I'll bet he'll fight you tooth and nail to get that note annulled,,,and just like our tipuna ,,,we continue to fight ,no one who owns any piece of land gives up the freedom of that place without a fight ,,,just giving an entire country away just because someone had a great deal ,,,that doesn't make sense at all,,,,,none

    • @Tru-k4d
      @Tru-k4d Місяць тому

      @jamescrydeman540
      Why would maori cede sovereignty to an unruly bunch of convicts, the deal was Tino Rangatiratanga for kawanatanga, & what part in that DOI says we cede sovereignty? still hasn't been confirmed in any court. This govt & it's policy enforcers have powers that are only conferred. They are lawless & have no constitution, & no trade flag, no rights to make any laws...once again took our mindfulness as another opportunity to steal, as this document was also put in place for the colonials to keep their drunk & disorderly misfits in line..

    • @jamescrydeman540
      @jamescrydeman540 Місяць тому

      @@Tru-k4d Māori never had sovereignty to cede. They had occupancy alone. Māori societal development was at the stone age stage, did not even have the capability of recording anything in writing. There were no political structures to create a government or any of its agencies, courts etc, and of courser there was no sovereign. The sovereign that came later, after the treaty was third choice, the Rangatira of Ngati Porou and Ngati Tuwharetoa both having declined the role, and was recognised by a minority of Iwi. No you never had sovereignty to cede so it isn’t going to be proven in court. The convicts were for next door.

    • @jamescrydeman540
      @jamescrydeman540 Місяць тому +1

      @@Tru-k4dMaoridom never had sovereignty to cede. they had occupancy as colonists, socio/political development in keeping with the stone age which was their technological level and also missing all the societal structures that develop in keeping with technological advance. Eventually arriving at a written alphabet with which records could be kept and structures of society developed. Sovereignty, of a sort, came after the treaty and the first two Rangatira approached to take the role were refused. Recognition was largely limited to the Waikato/King Country and was not universal.

    • @jamescrydeman540
      @jamescrydeman540 Місяць тому

      @@Tru-k4d They never had sovereignty to cede, they had occupancy and none of the societal structures of government, property, judiciary, other than at the “condone” level as determined by Galbraith in his “Anatomy of Power”.Maoridom point of development was stone age such was their technollogical development..

  • @labellaangora6887
    @labellaangora6887 Рік тому +1

    Sad it is edited so much

    • @robertperham
      @robertperham  Рік тому +1

      Was only edited to save time, this was filmed over 2 days

    • @rauituiri6051
      @rauituiri6051 14 днів тому

      ​@@robertperhamWhere can we view the unedited version?

  • @jamescrydeman540
    @jamescrydeman540 28 днів тому

    They never had sovereignty to cede, they had occupancy on the same basis as the latter day occupants. Maoridoms anthropology had none of the structures in place to ever had had sovereignty. At the Europeans arrival Māori development had not progressed yet to having characters to represent language, an abreviated aural alphabet.

    • @robertperham
      @robertperham  27 днів тому +1

      Lol

    • @jamescrydeman540
      @jamescrydeman540 27 днів тому +1

      @@robertperham I am flattered, People seldom laugh at what I say. Generally considered too serious for my own good. I hope I have made your day as good has your comment has mine. Thank you.