@demonmellow7743 Brooo I read your comment first before watching the video and it killed me when I came to the part "i was thinking the exact same thing" ♥ ♥ ♥ hahahahahahahah
it's crazy how Pika speaks like a sort of second language. He has meaning attached to EVERY single one of the rogue abilities. When he goes "I would have step, cheapshot, sepsis, evis, rupture fullblind the priest" etc etc etc - he has like a full mental map of exactly what those abilties would do in this situation. It's actually really hard to follow as someone that isn't a rogue main but it's interesting to hear someone talk like this almost as if it's an extension of their body/mind.
@@neslind1 fair enough, but it is a lot of process information. The fact that it becomes automatic means processing capacity remains bigger, but you're still unconsciously processing said information (that what was controlled before, and is now automatic).
I know Ven is Canadian but the level of humility with which he approached this VOD review and how receptive he was to the feedback was a PvP developmental clinic in itself. I would love to see more of these from both of them taking Ven to rank 1 on sub. Also, turn about is fair play Ven should VOD review Pika on Mage. Gr8 content gentlemen, thank you.💪😈🤙
Are Canadians especially humble? I'm a Canadian and I'd say a good portion of us are not humble. We're considered friendly and polite but thats something of a misclassification as well. On initially meeting ppl this holds true but we're a judgy people who are pretty non-confrontational. If you are rude, dumb, classless, etc we more often than not give the sardonic, sarcastic friendliness that I think people fail to see. We're not big on public spectacle. So ppl won't call you these things, they'll imply it beneath a veneer of politeness. We project being humble but we're quick to act superiour if givem reason. There's not alot of tolerance for low effort intelligence.
I give you props for wading through the mean whispers from others while learning sub rogue. That was my experience trying to learn rogue in Shadowlands at least lol Thanks for sharing your rogue journey with us! It's a joy watching you try so hard and do well. Letting pika coach your vid was awesome!❤
A great display of confidence and humility. This is what the gaming community needs to see. In a realm full of insecure arrogant people this man is standing out and shining. Great work brother! I admire your courage, Venruki.
if you're talking about pika's comment at 18:50 he is talking about the Premeditation talent which makes the first Shadowstrike after stealth/dance generate 2 additional combo points.
@@Schiimonthat’s upon entering or gaining stealth/dance it causes your shadow strike to give 2 extra pts and 10sec of slice which he got because he just vanished it’s the purple spectre looking icon top row of buffs 2nd from far left you always have premed for your first shadow strike because it requires stealth to get and shadow strike requires stealth to use but he specifically says “shoulda sliced though it also procs your things and when you shadow strike you get more combo pts” slice has zero to do with shadow strike giving more combo pts even though that’s basically what pika said lol What he’s talking about is a passive called shadow techniques “your auto attacks have a 28% chance to generate 4 energy and store 1 combo point” which is why you want slice up 50% more attack speed means 28% chance happens 50% more often which was introduced in WoD i specifically remember coming from MoP and having to form a habit of keeping slice up for the combo point generation because that was never a thing before you didn’t even have to keep slice up you kept up recuperation which is what gave you energy and hp regen starting in cata (main reason rogues are busted in cata)
@@everythingtankpit Premeditation your next Shadowstrike [...] generates 2 additional combo points if Slice and Dice is active. If you do not have SnD, SS gives your SnD, if you have SnD it gives you 2 extra CPs.
@@everythingtankpit side note: Shadow Techniques was introduced in Legion as part of the Sub weapon. The energy regen from Recup was moved to Slice n Dice in MoP and completely removed in Legion.
@@Schiimon he already had slice up for the extra 2 cp and premed and he was already at full damn combo pts now why would you slice off full combo pts to generate an extra 2 on a shadow strike when you’re going to be opening with a stun from vanish into a dance which also generates full pts
And this is why people like Venruki are amongst the best in the world. He is always open to learning from better players. If you are learning Rogue, I couldn’t imagine a higher value asset than Pika. I don’t play anymore but good lord was I bad in Arena lol. I had fun though.
Also i think @ 19:00 hes talking about slice and dice proccing more combos from autos? I could be way off but i remember watching one of his streams one time. He talked about finisher priority
But insteaaaaad XD gotta love it followed by that belly laugh awesome and wholesome! I would like a 2.0 that he reviews you recent sub Rogue journey ''conclusion''
I would love to see you break down the mage like Pikaboo does sub. It would be extremely valuable. This is an amazing video. You should do more like this. I think it would help draw some people back into arena. Thank you.
If you have to use rupture and septis as a sub rogue you mite as well go assassination rogue. Blizzard hasn't even buffed sub rogue at all for the next expansion.
loved rogue back in BFA season 1. did good damage and was fun, cc was not mandatory. i donno what happened since than, assassin does like no damage in pvp. i can't just bully healers anymore like back in BFA, although game play didnt change much. not it's all around cc set ups and crap on rogues. a pure dps class, can;t bully a healer, what a nonsense. especially not being able to bully a healer in bgs.
That's why i never take wow pvp seriously, coz eventually you just gonna run into someone who puts the effort into managing all this shit at once and just mega outplay you, i prefer chill and pve and dungeons :D
Dude, stop being a baby and just make a rogue in cata. With the change to conquest cap it's so easy to gear up now, they even doubled honor from bgs. Id like to see you play a rogue but I don't play retail, i literally have no fckin clue whats going on.
Cast sequences. Is for people with disabilities or like only one hand or low finger dexterity and can not hit multiple button presses fast 3leno7gh to enjoy the game t9 remain t a competitive level with other players who can.not talking about kick botting
" i was thinking the exact same thing" HAHAHAH
made me lol also
Ahaha!
lol
@demonmellow7743 Brooo I read your comment first before watching the video and it killed me when I came to the part "i was thinking the exact same thing" ♥ ♥ ♥ hahahahahahahah
the second i was thinking the same thing got me
it's crazy how Pika speaks like a sort of second language. He has meaning attached to EVERY single one of the rogue abilities. When he goes "I would have step, cheapshot, sepsis, evis, rupture fullblind the priest" etc etc etc - he has like a full mental map of exactly what those abilties would do in this situation. It's actually really hard to follow as someone that isn't a rogue main but it's interesting to hear someone talk like this almost as if it's an extension of their body/mind.
You’d be the same if you also spent 15 hours a day for 15 years straight only doing one thing on one class
@@frostgodx Dude legit hit 2400 on every non-tank spec lol. Shut the fuck up.
Yeah step cheap shot sepsis is not the right combo though so
@@Jay-jayy-n9u ok bro
You know what’s wild, I was thinking the same thing too
this is great to see! love seeing breakdown of gameplay from the both of you
The amount of information process per second on wow arena is insane
Not rlly. It becomes automatic u just need to put in the games
@@neslind1 fair enough, but it is a lot of process information. The fact that it becomes automatic means processing capacity remains bigger, but you're still unconsciously processing said information (that what was controlled before, and is now automatic).
@@neslind1 yeah just needs to play for 2k hours and youre set... cmon man
I know Ven is Canadian but the level of humility with which he approached this VOD review and how receptive he was to the feedback was a PvP developmental clinic in itself. I would love to see more of these from both of them taking Ven to rank 1 on sub. Also, turn about is fair play Ven should VOD review Pika on Mage. Gr8 content gentlemen, thank you.💪😈🤙
Are Canadians especially humble? I'm a Canadian and I'd say a good portion of us are not humble. We're considered friendly and polite but thats something of a misclassification as well. On initially meeting ppl this holds true but we're a judgy people who are pretty non-confrontational. If you are rude, dumb, classless, etc we more often than not give the sardonic, sarcastic friendliness that I think people fail to see. We're not big on public spectacle. So ppl won't call you these things, they'll imply it beneath a veneer of politeness. We project being humble but we're quick to act superiour if givem reason. There's not alot of tolerance for low effort intelligence.
@@Lloociithats cause most Canadians arnt canadians anymore, theyre immigrants. The canadian culture is dead
So ur polite lol
@@Lloocii That's basically what being polite implies.
@pocketvices Sure, but not humble, which was the point made.
Peekaboo: "He should have *lists a sequence of the next 15 global cooldowns*"
Venruki: "I was thinking the same thing"
xD
It's so crazy I was thinking the same thing as he was saying it. Wild how were so in tune with how sub rogue works.
Shot every time ven mentions he was 6-0 in his last lobby on his rogue! Much love brother good games.
You should do more of these for other classes as well, really interesting.
Listening to Pikaboo commentate this is insane. I love your perspective on it as well. Great vid!
It's uncanny how I don't even play rogue and I was thinking the exact same thing too!
5:54 "yeah i was thinking the same thing" LMFAO
I give you props for wading through the mean whispers from others while learning sub rogue. That was my experience trying to learn rogue in Shadowlands at least lol
Thanks for sharing your rogue journey with us! It's a joy watching you try so hard and do well. Letting pika coach your vid was awesome!❤
A great display of confidence and humility. This is what the gaming community needs to see. In a realm full of insecure arrogant people this man is standing out and shining. Great work brother!
I admire your courage, Venruki.
Yea I was thinking the same thing. Fun watching you learn sub
Quality coaching
Ngl hearing this vod review made me realize I'm way to washed to ever come back to arena
The Venrogui arc is finally upon us and I’m so damn here for it.
What he meant about having slice up is your auto attacks generate combo pts or “have a chance to” so 50% attack speed from slice=more procs
if you're talking about pika's comment at 18:50 he is talking about the Premeditation talent which makes the first Shadowstrike after stealth/dance generate 2 additional combo points.
@@Schiimonthat’s upon entering or gaining stealth/dance it causes your shadow strike to give 2 extra pts and 10sec of slice which he got because he just vanished it’s the purple spectre looking icon top row of buffs 2nd from far left you always have premed for your first shadow strike because it requires stealth to get and shadow strike requires stealth to use but he specifically says “shoulda sliced though it also procs your things and when you shadow strike you get more combo pts” slice has zero to do with shadow strike giving more combo pts even though that’s basically what pika said lol What he’s talking about is a passive called shadow techniques “your auto attacks have a 28% chance to generate 4 energy and store 1 combo point” which is why you want slice up
50% more attack speed means 28% chance happens 50% more often which was introduced in WoD i specifically remember coming from MoP and having to form a habit of keeping slice up for the combo point generation because that was never a thing before you didn’t even have to keep slice up you kept up recuperation which is what gave you energy and hp regen starting in cata (main reason rogues are busted in cata)
@@everythingtankpit Premeditation
your next Shadowstrike [...] generates 2 additional combo points if Slice and Dice is active.
If you do not have SnD, SS gives your SnD, if you have SnD it gives you 2 extra CPs.
@@everythingtankpit side note: Shadow Techniques was introduced in Legion as part of the Sub weapon. The energy regen from Recup was moved to Slice n Dice in MoP and completely removed in Legion.
@@Schiimon he already had slice up for the extra 2 cp and premed and he was already at full damn combo pts now why would you slice off full combo pts to generate an extra 2 on a shadow strike when you’re going to be opening with a stun from vanish into a dance which also generates full pts
Now we need pika to react to you reacting to him reacting to you
So you can react again
And this is why people like Venruki are amongst the best in the world. He is always open to learning from better players. If you are learning Rogue, I couldn’t imagine a higher value asset than Pika. I don’t play anymore but good lord was I bad in Arena lol. I had fun though.
such a great feedback，this level of details really helps to understand the grand strategy of sub rogue
love this type of content hoping for more in the future
This series is gold. Hilarious
You were thinking it... I was thinking it... We all were thinking it.
That was the 3rd shuffle I ever ran on my 3 day old dh (Darivastor). GGs, I tried. Great video.
Y’all got bullied hard hahaha
What addon shows the big class cooldowns (offensive and defensive) on target nameplate? Love that looks so clean
One of the best videos so far, I watched it like 3-4 times now. “But insteeeead” I will watch it again 😁
Anything involving pika and rogues is high quality content.
Bro the "insteaaaaad" had me dying laughing 😂😂😂
The "thing" is Premeditation passive. After getting stealth your next combo generator give you full combo points.
If we had a third of Pika’s ability to see the game we’d be multi season glads. Honestly someone like this is such a good coach.
Great video 😂 informative stuff is good for the community
Also hilarious reactionception
Also i think @ 19:00 hes talking about slice and dice proccing more combos from autos? I could be way off but i remember watching one of his streams one time. He talked about finisher priority
Endless content here. Pikaboo should play mage and get a venruki review.
Now we need you to review his mage game play
How do you show your skill combos on screen or do you add that yourself?
But insteaaaaad XD gotta love it followed by that belly laugh awesome and wholesome!
I would like a 2.0 that he reviews you recent sub Rogue journey ''conclusion''
I would love to see you break down the mage like Pikaboo does sub. It would be extremely valuable. This is an amazing video. You should do more like this. I think it would help draw some people back into arena. Thank you.
I dont even like retail pvp anymore and this is entertaining af.
Instead.... we slice and dice. Brutal hahahaha
Watching Venruki watching pikaboo watching Venruki is pure ✨ content ✨
I was definitely thinking the same thing too
this inspired me to Q up some shuffielles on sub rogue for some fun, and it was! hate the long Q times but oh well
Brilliant, on both your parts. 💯
While I loath rogue... there is no one explains rogue like he can, I'd like to see him try the announcer thing, I think he'd be amazing.
Always enjoy these kind of things. I watched Pika video of this then yours lol. I still wanna see triple mage in arena again bake some pies!
This was great well done man hahahha
Pikaboo isnt reviewing the gameplay, he's singing like Eminem!! oh boiii!!!
I thought you could pain supp while stunned.
You can. Blind is a disorient. He got the pain supp off bc he went for the kidney instead of blind
I was thinking the same thing actually guys I’m telling you
So much wisdom...
Frig where are the boo vids at
Nice job! Funny content
I wonder if Ven 6-0 his last lobby
awesome vid. "It's great that you can take criticism.". like that
I just watched a video you did where you disagreed with a high barrier to entry for pvp. I too "was thinking the same thing." You understand I'm sure!
Pikaboo versus Crusader- Cattle Caller wow PvP rotation showdown
If you have to use rupture and septis as a sub rogue you mite as well go assassination rogue.
Blizzard hasn't even buffed sub rogue at all for the next expansion.
Shadowy Duel seems broken.
loved rogue back in BFA season 1. did good damage and was fun, cc was not mandatory. i donno what happened since than, assassin does like no damage in pvp. i can't just bully healers anymore like back in BFA, although game play didnt change much. not it's all around cc set ups and crap on rogues. a pure dps class, can;t bully a healer, what a nonsense. especially not being able to bully a healer in bgs.
You’ve bullied us for too long
Preforated Veins - not Thing
Bommers are 70+, so weird to hear all of those Z calling boomers people who are too young to even be their parents.
Pretty sure this is the type video asmongold was talking about.
pika must play cata man.. want to fight his team
I liked watching this
sir-f-alot
Wow great video
"hows he gonna critique my addons when he doesnt even use addons" thats because addons dont make you a better player.
HIGH VALUE!
That's why i never take wow pvp seriously, coz eventually you just gonna run into someone who puts the effort into managing all this shit at once and just mega outplay you, i prefer chill and pve and dungeons :D
normalize this. i play fortnite as well as wow and find it weird how wow players see extra eyes and ears as back seat gaming when its so invaluable.
This is awesome haha
It's funny because I've seen 2.4 lobbies that play worse. It's such a melting pot.
😂is 6-0 really something to flex nowdays like cmon theres people like Tigerlady that are 400-2
lol
love it
I love watch pvp, but I’ll never play it
Ask pika to play mage and vod review him now
pikas first tip: just run past 2 demon hunters who can see you in stealth and sap the priest on lordaeron arena 4Head
Dude, stop being a baby and just make a rogue in cata. With the change to conquest cap it's so easy to gear up now, they even doubled honor from bgs. Id like to see you play a rogue but I don't play retail, i literally have no fckin clue whats going on.
All classic is garbage
@@frostgodx so is retail
Classic is trash. Stop living in the past clown.
I don't like when you swear in your videos
I do like it.
The world is in balance once again.
@@SDREHXC I am very neutral about it.
ur bio says "I’ve developed a fetish for small penis humiliation." what are u on about m8 LMAO
@@adamwojas I also have an opinion.
i was thinking the same thing but hey i was only 6 - 0 last lobby AHHAHA
Cast sequences. Is for people with disabilities or like only one hand or low finger dexterity and can not hit multiple button presses fast 3leno7gh to enjoy the game t9 remain t a competitive level with other players who can.not talking about kick botting