The Eighty, our meticulously crafted reproduction of this iconic landmark in synthesizer history! Faithful to the original, enhanced for the future More on www.xils-lab.c...
Father- My Child,,, One day in the Future, Humans will have the power to emulate anything. Child - What will humans emulate father? Father -The Past my child. The past
XILS-Lab continue to unleash the finest instruments at the highest level possible. The sound, expression, and extended possibilities of The Eighty are magnificent. Incredible work as always. Next level.
The DCF Resonance is sounding very digital. Beside that the synth sounds great. I think it is still not possible to emulate with 0dff to emulate VCF Resonance.
I didn’t know The Eighty had been released until Vicious Antelope sent me an email about a sale on new patches for it. Xils-Lab announced it in an email a few weeks ago, saying it was coming in a couple of weeks, but didn’t send anything once it became available - a missed opportunity. Looks king forward to trying it …
It’s technical, but zero-delay is a different (better) approach than oversampling. Oversampling is a fairly brute force way to simulate electronics. Plus it adds load to your CPU. Zero delay means using clever maths to more accurately model filters without the need for oversampling.
@@bigboxerable What are the drawbacks, if any? Curious why Urs Heckmann wouldn't choose this technique over oversampling in U/HE emulations? I've yet to hear anything approaching the quality of his synths, aside from maybe Gforce's Oberheim emulations.
If I was a plugin maker then the 1st thing I'd buy was something like PolyBrute 12 :) or MBF Synth Pro (which is nearly impossible to get). Don't get me wrong but in these sounds I hear a pretty big difference. Of course, for the end listeners it's almost no difference between a real CS-80 and this plugin. Good luck in the New Year!
How many CS-80 clones do we need? Why not do something really rare like the RMI Keyboard Computer, or the Yam GS-1? Thanks for the hard work but too many people are copying the same instruments. Prophet -10 would be interesting but yup, someone just put that one out. I'd take a DW8000.........................................................
Lovely film like advertising! It was like traveling in time when I was younger and didn't have a clue of synths prices or maintenance issues. I saw it I wanted so badly. I go to the movies these days and no longer feel like that times. Cogratulations ❤
@Paul_Y_T I presume you would require a hardware midi keyboard with poly aftertouch to be able to use the built in software poly aftertouch though yes?
@@maydaygoingdown5602 yes, got to have a way to get that individual note data into the plugin somehow. Unless they also offer faked poly-at using an approach like Tim Shoebridge came up with for his Polyphonic Pressure Generator.
@@laceacalinI'm totally "chill", just asking important questions, to which you - apparently - have no answers. Once I have those answers, I will decide whether I am interested in this VSTi.
For the last question, it will be available within a week or so. We still have work polishing the synth and finishing our website page. For the two first question, it's for you to judge. A virtual synth is not only about reproducing features, but mostly about the sound.
I didn't see where they showed any GUI on the entire video? I think that was just a mock 3D model of what their VST would look like as a real instrument.
I couldn't stop thinking about the woman that put the helmet on with the hose not connected to anything, and then in the next scene floating in space with the visor partially open. Took me out of the moment of admiring the synth.
Exactly! I’m not an AI hater -quite the contrary- but we’re still in the uncanny valley of incoherent nonsense, and it feels premature to use generative video for a product launch such as this. It’s very distracting.
That thing you call a woman is just a collection of pixels resembling a woman wearing a load more pixels resembling a helmet on her pixel head, placed in front of a background layer resembling outer space. I can assure you no pixels were harmed in the making of this illusion.
As others have stated: it's Van-G-elis not Van-J-elis. Since this synth most likely would be forgotten had he not created these iconic albums, it's best to get these details right -- since the majority of video watchers here are Mr. V fans (that's my guess, anyway). Also: the problem that this emulation can not solve is that the CS80 is an *instrument*, designed to be played intuitively, like a violin or a trumpet. That's why it was praised by Vangelis as the best synth he ever played. And this extra quality cannot be evoked by any emulation, because your fingers cannot touch and feel anything. I cannot judge this emulation on its merits musically, so please somebody who understands where I'm getting at chime in.
@@PsychologyAcademia Yes, certainly I do. But then again, I'm not trying to sell something while the correct pronunciation is but a few keystrokes away. I criticize sloppiness before you let potential customers see it.
If you would know anything about midi controllers, you would not write this. And important thing - it is about the sound. CS-80 has it sound and it can be totally different from Vangelis sounds. It can be very modern, gritty, harsh ... and complex
@@silspok Well, if you were to play the Eighty with a fully equipped midi keyboard that has all the features (polyphonic aftertouch, ribbon controller, an intuitive interface etc), you might approximate the results. But I've heard too much much played without the "instrument" interface, and it's just not the same. Also, kindly reserve your opinion about my knowledge until we have walked the proverbial mile in each other's shoes.
So, what is it? Very likely a plugin. So why create a virtual keyboard and a mass of sliders, a missing touch-ribbon controller then? Not impressed yet.
@@alandeacon1988 Yep. We can choose now between Cherry Audio, Arturia, Softube and Xils. They all have their quirks and features. So let’s hear how the new kid on the block sounds and performs. Looks promising.
Sure! My point is that, even if the Xils version is amazing, I have already spent my money on the Softube one (which I preferred over Cherry Audio). If the Xils one had been announced earlier, I might have waited!
I was 17-20 during the span that Vangelis released "Short Stories" with Jon Anderson, did the iconic soundtracks for Blade Runner and Chariots of Fire… I was absolutely captivated, moved & inspired by these works AND the specific sounds he chose to work with… most coming from the CS80. For me, the sounds in this vid seem very "in the ballpark", not spot-on in a way that would get me excited, nor do they seem remarkable vs the 3-4 other virtual CS80 VIs already available… would be delighted to find out there's something I'm missing
Father- My Child,,, One day in the Future, Humans will have the power to emulate anything.
Child - What will humans emulate father?
Father -The Past my child. The past
woooow, what a deep shit you say, dude 😮🤓
Best comment in a long time!
@ Totally
It'll be hard to better this comment in 2025... If at all. Fantastic!
XILS-Lab continue to unleash the finest instruments at the highest level possible. The sound, expression, and extended possibilities of The Eighty are magnificent. Incredible work as always. Next level.
Sounds incredible especially the strings in the background of the iconic track.. The best yet and a fantastic GUI. Well done!
Ex CS-80 owner here. I'm working on a CS-80 emulation myself, curious to see how you approached certain things and what things you did right.
I wouldn't mind doing a complete album using only this monster 🙂
Brilliant! Thank you XILS for this masterpiece. I have lot of CS-80 plugins, and they are all good, but this is something special.
The DCF Resonance is sounding very digital. Beside that the synth sounds great. I think it is still not possible to emulate with 0dff to emulate VCF Resonance.
Looks Great, Sounds Great. Awesome!!!
Sounds bloody fantastic! I can't wait to buy it!
Love the sound and GUI, definitely a buy from me!
You guys are building some great software. Very impressive.
Xils-Lab, still here and still rocking for 2025. Thank you for this marvelous promise Xavier, we're all waiting ! 😎
Xavier makes the finest instruments.
Man this is going to be something else to pair with the Hydrasynth's poly-A keys and touch strip.
This is a sure buy for me.
I like the sound a lot, looking forwards to seeing it come out!
I didn’t know The Eighty had been released until Vicious Antelope sent me an email about a sale on new patches for it. Xils-Lab announced it in an email a few weeks ago, saying it was coming in a couple of weeks, but didn’t send anything once it became available - a missed opportunity. Looks king forward to trying it …
hehe Alllan Holdsworth's UK sighted :) ""Alaska!" and the end of "By The Light Of Day" . What an album, what a sound! I want this :)
Eddie Jobson.
I believe a synth like this needs to stand on its own without effects just like this one so bravo folks
Except the CS-80 absolutely needs effects...Vangelis bathed the CS-80 in Lexicon 224 reverb, it was an essential part of the final sound.
It has effects. Chorus, Delay, Phaser, and Reverb. All on the lower left.
@@k8923 didn't it say in the vid no effects at one point?
@@michaelarthurholloway9539 did the vid say on part of it no effects? Did i dream that?
@@supercompooper No, it said no processing or external effects. (meaning the demo only used built in sounds and fx)
God damned it, this actually sounds like someone FINALLY got the CS80 filters right 🤯
Sounds amazing, can't wait to try this bad boy 😮
Thrilled! Can't wait! :-)
That first sound, originally by Eddy Jobson (UK). Brings back memories.. Wow!
Fantastic!
Why would you want no oversampling? Won't that increase aliasing with any sort of non-linearity saturation emulation?
Depends how the nonlinearity or oscillator is designed
That give me a moments pause too... But I certainly didn't hear any aliasing in this short demo, so maybe it doesn't matter ;)
It’s technical, but zero-delay is a different (better) approach than oversampling. Oversampling is a fairly brute force way to simulate electronics. Plus it adds load to your CPU. Zero delay means using clever maths to more accurately model filters without the need for oversampling.
@@bigboxerable What are the drawbacks, if any? Curious why Urs Heckmann wouldn't choose this technique over oversampling in U/HE emulations?
I've yet to hear anything approaching the quality of his synths, aside from maybe Gforce's Oberheim emulations.
@@AdamsOlympia He uses both oversampling and zero delay feedback.
A tri-timbral CS-80, with a mod matrix. And it sounds amazing.
Can’t wait to put it to the musical test of times.
They should make a hardware panel that looks as awesome as that, to directly edit the VST. I’d pay bucks for that for sure.
3D Printing? You could make one yourself nowadays. I had exactly the same thought myself :)
Stop teasing us and give us the goods
Download the demo and check it out for yourself. You're going to love it.
Why do they never upfront tell you the price, if the products were well price manufactures would be excited to tell consumers.
How long does it take to make incredible software like this. Im amazed how far they have come in last few years.
Darn I just got the model 77. More food for thought .
Ditto.
Why release this ad when the product isn't even listed on the company web page yet? I think their ad may have jumped the gun.
Probably so you don't go out and buy a boat before this thing is available.
Ohhh❤
😍🙌
Please, please bring this to iOS.
Do we need another CS-80 emulation? Of course!
woooow, amazing, what price will this device have?
Thanks Xavier
In my laptop soon❤
The musician who's made the demo likes Eddie Jobson
Release it soon or you will make everyone van-jealous.
I don't see any reference to it on your web site. When will it be available, and what is the price?
If I was a plugin maker then the 1st thing I'd buy was something like PolyBrute 12 :) or MBF Synth Pro (which is nearly impossible to get).
Don't get me wrong but in these sounds I hear a pretty big difference. Of course, for the end listeners it's almost no difference between a real CS-80 and this plugin.
Good luck in the New Year!
How many CS-80 clones do we need? Why not do something really rare like the RMI Keyboard Computer, or the Yam GS-1? Thanks for the hard work but too many people are copying the same instruments. Prophet -10 would be interesting but yup, someone just put that one out. I'd take a DW8000.........................................................
We need exactly one affordable hardware clone and then I'll be good. Haha.
@dreamstaticsounds is behringer still working on one?
@@DenariusHaveNarius yup. Someday it'll arrive and hopefully it'll be good. We'll see.
Oh, my! 😉👍🏻❤️
✌🏻😎🎹🌴🌞
Is that UK in the intro?
Shut up and take my money!
The first tones are U.K.’s U.K. Album.
Lovely film like advertising! It was like traveling in time when I was younger and didn't have a clue of synths prices or maintenance issues.
I saw it I wanted so badly. I go to the movies these days and no longer feel like that times.
Cogratulations ❤
how much and when???
The website has the price in Euros, and no way to convert that to Dollars $.
rate is around 1.03, so depending on paypal or bank cart, it would be around USD 92
Does it have built in Polyphonic Aftertouch?
yes
this is software and not the imaginary 3d render shown in the video - you can hear the poly-at in the video.
@Paul_Y_T I presume you would require a hardware midi keyboard with poly aftertouch to be able to use the built in software poly aftertouch though yes?
@@maydaygoingdown5602 yes, got to have a way to get that individual note data into the plugin somehow. Unless they also offer faked poly-at using an approach like Tim Shoebridge came up with for his Polyphonic Pressure Generator.
:-)
Do we really need yet another digital replicant of the CS-80? If so, how does it differ from all the others?
Chill tf out. You're interested - good, not interested - keep moving.
@@laceacalinI'm totally "chill", just asking important questions, to which you - apparently - have no answers. Once I have those answers, I will decide whether I am interested in this VSTi.
For the last question, it will be available within a week or so. We still have work polishing the synth and finishing our website page.
For the two first question, it's for you to judge. A virtual synth is not only about reproducing features, but mostly about the sound.
A replicant you say? 🤖
@@allo5auru5 Indeed I do. An actual CS-80 would set you back at least 20 thousand bucks.
Great video... except the dodgy 'holding up her helmet because it's too big' bit! 😀
CS80 ！！
preseting. Where is it? teasing. kinda lame
They had a baby.. RolandxYamaha❤
🐂💨 That how fun i think it is to use a pc for making music,-
The top part of the GUI looks like it’s going to waste screen real estate
There is always something under a trapdoor ;)
Two Chinese sailors and a rope?
I didn't see where they showed any GUI on the entire video? I think that was just a mock 3D model of what their VST would look like as a real instrument.
@ that’s a 3d model of the GUI brother, you’ll see
I couldn't stop thinking about the woman that put the helmet on with the hose not connected to anything, and then in the next scene floating in space with the visor partially open. Took me out of the moment of admiring the synth.
Exactly! I’m not an AI hater -quite the contrary- but we’re still in the uncanny valley of incoherent nonsense, and it feels premature to use generative video for a product launch such as this. It’s very distracting.
That thing you call a woman is just a collection of pixels resembling a woman wearing a load more pixels resembling a helmet on her pixel head, placed in front of a background layer resembling outer space. I can assure you no pixels were harmed in the making of this illusion.
Forgot to put health and safety into the prompt 😅😅😅
😍😍
In about 2 weeks ...💸💸
Why didn’t you just call it ‘The Vangelis’?
Is this a piece of hardware or is it a VST?
I know, LOL, they never actually say. It's a VST.
@@oiartsun I had a feeling it was. The mock-up was stunning, but when I realized it had no screen whatsoever I couldn't imagine it selling.
It's a software instrument though whether it's hardware or software. The reality is what are we going to do with it.
Anyone catch the references to U.K.’s first album at the top of the promo?
Yes, indeed. And I vividly remember seeing them play live in another age.
@robst247 - 😮
faithfully to the original yet not that close when it comes to sound. not even close to a one osc cs60 let alone 2 in the 80.
As others have stated: it's Van-G-elis not Van-J-elis. Since this synth most likely would be forgotten had he not created these iconic albums, it's best to get these details right -- since the majority of video watchers here are Mr. V fans (that's my guess, anyway). Also: the problem that this emulation can not solve is that the CS80 is an *instrument*, designed to be played intuitively, like a violin or a trumpet. That's why it was praised by Vangelis as the best synth he ever played. And this extra quality cannot be evoked by any emulation, because your fingers cannot touch and feel anything. I cannot judge this emulation on its merits musically, so please somebody who understands where I'm getting at chime in.
Linguistics. We all pronounce words wrong. Even you.
@@PsychologyAcademia Yes, certainly I do. But then again, I'm not trying to sell something while the correct pronunciation is but a few keystrokes away. I criticize sloppiness before you let potential customers see it.
Wait until you hear someone say they saw a gif of Vangelis playing a Moog
😉
If you would know anything about midi controllers, you would not write this. And important thing - it is about the sound. CS-80 has it sound and it can be totally different from Vangelis sounds. It can be very modern, gritty, harsh ... and complex
@@silspok Well, if you were to play the Eighty with a fully equipped midi keyboard that has all the features (polyphonic aftertouch, ribbon controller, an intuitive interface etc), you might approximate the results. But I've heard too much much played without the "instrument" interface, and it's just not the same. Also, kindly reserve your opinion about my knowledge until we have walked the proverbial mile in each other's shoes.
Like shit in the rain , -
It doesent sound anything like the cS-80. It sounds as any other software synth. And it dosent help playing Vangelis songs. 😂
Was this read by AI?
Sounds like every single thing in this video, the copy and the visuals, are AI. Wacky
Sounds fab. But where is the link to make purchasing this a simple and easy step? (Selling 101)
They said in the newsletter. it will be available in 2 weeks
Naaa, I wait for the Behringer CS 80
hilarious "cinematic" actors LOL
Sounds great - looking forward to trying this. None of the other cs-80 emulations have quite grabbed me yet.
Sounds as good or better than a Deckard's Dream at capturing the classic 80 sound.
@@AdamsOlympia perhaps you should try the DDRM. Its an analog machine, just doesn't have the effects built in.
Mpe?
Super boring.... Bring something new...
So, what is it?
Very likely a plugin. So why create a virtual keyboard and a mass of sliders, a missing touch-ribbon controller then?
Not impressed yet.
there is a ribbon controller, look again
@@randomVEL you look again !!!
Bit late to the party! Cherry and Arturia have already sown this one up.
Also Softube. Xils ZDF's sound really good, though.
Sewn not sown
I know Xils are great, but you're a couple of months too late! Both Cherry Audio and Softube have done this one now...
The point is to do it better, since we're talking about modelling, and there are more than one way to do that.
@@alandeacon1988 Yep. We can choose now between Cherry Audio, Arturia, Softube and Xils. They all have their quirks and features. So let’s hear how the new kid on the block sounds and performs. Looks promising.
Sure! My point is that, even if the Xils version is amazing, I have already spent my money on the Softube one (which I preferred over Cherry Audio). If the Xils one had been announced earlier, I might have waited!
@@MikeHageman there's even one more (which is liked by many people, including me) - Memorymoon ME80 (only windows though)
@@alandeacon1988 I agree. Same here. Haha.
Probably some cheap casio !!!!
They said it, CS80 (CS doesn’t stand for Casio)
bro this does not look like a casio 😂
@@xray2785 😂 How would he know? Looks like he doesn't even know how a cheap Casio sounds like. 😂
That's right - the Casio 80 was the 80th synthesizer Casio produced and Edwin van Jellis himself used it to score the movie soundtrack to Brain Runner
I was 17-20 during the span that Vangelis released "Short Stories" with Jon Anderson, did the iconic soundtracks for Blade Runner and Chariots of Fire… I was absolutely captivated, moved & inspired by these works AND the specific sounds he chose to work with… most coming from the CS80. For me, the sounds in this vid seem very "in the ballpark", not spot-on in a way that would get me excited, nor do they seem remarkable vs the 3-4 other virtual CS80 VIs already available… would be delighted to find out there's something I'm missing
Does iLok do anything for you?