Rant Review | The Pawn and the Puppet is Bad and Harmful

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  • @lycianempire
    @lycianempire Рік тому +717

    Somehow this is a book that could only be improved by the replacement of its main character with Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +107

      Oh no not My Immortal! I’ve actually never read it but oh, I’ve heard of it 😂😂😂

    • @RosseRue
      @RosseRue Рік тому +48

      I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who's had that name bouncing around my brain from the instant I heard the country's name was Dementia XD

    • @Stonedandbookish
      @Stonedandbookish Рік тому +9

      FOR REAL

    • @this_Kwazicat
      @this_Kwazicat 11 місяців тому +14

      i mean she is THE ONE to make Everything better

    • @PRGME7
      @PRGME7 Місяць тому

      @@this_Kwazicat of course she is. She’s goffick. The one true morality.

  • @EnragedTiefling
    @EnragedTiefling Рік тому +495

    Why does Skylenna sound like either birth control or a Pokémon?

    • @samantharau9687
      @samantharau9687 11 місяців тому +37

      Because there's a birth control called Skyla 😂😂 everytime she said the MC's name I kept thinking about my iud 😅😅

    • @lanaharper9798
      @lanaharper9798 11 місяців тому +41

      @@samantharau9687ask ur doctor if Skyl(enn)a is right for u

    • @loganmorningstar9122
      @loganmorningstar9122 10 місяців тому +9

      @@lanaharper9798 Please help, your comment had me cackling! XD

    • @emmacouffon2450
      @emmacouffon2450 9 місяців тому +17

      There’s also an iud called « kylenna », and I wish I was joking lmao

    • @johnynoway9127
      @johnynoway9127 8 місяців тому +7

      the equivalent of naming someone Tampona

  • @briimilli
    @briimilli Рік тому +223

    “Thunder without a sound”….
    Literary genius 💯

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +41

      I wish I could accurately describe my face when I read it the first time.

    • @bugonnastick
      @bugonnastick 4 місяці тому +1

      i want to know where the author was trying to go with this...

  • @Feverm00n
    @Feverm00n 11 місяців тому +262

    As someone with DID and ZERO patience for “evil split personality” ignorance lately, I’m gonna tap out at the little summary you started with. But I’m leaving a comment for engagement! Ps- to anyone curious, real DID is nothing like the theatrical representations one might find in “United States of Tara,” on social media, in horror, etc. In reality, DID is far more mundane and boring than it’s often portrayed. To the average outside observer, it’s less 15 different elaborate outfits & accents and more having a bad memory and being extremely tired.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  11 місяців тому +81

      I think that’s a smart choice because this books rep was terrible. I tried to make jokes and make it somewhat enjoyable but for someone who actually has DID I doubt it would help dilute the stupidity. 🩷

    • @valentinewhite9298
      @valentinewhite9298 9 місяців тому +23

      Oh that last bit is so real, especially as a system with very blurry alters. I am tired and forgetful all the time

    • @Feverm00n
      @Feverm00n 9 місяців тому +13

      @@valentinewhite9298 yeah lol DID is so much more boring than what people with no experience with it imagine

    • @johnynoway9127
      @johnynoway9127 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Feverm00ncare to educate the non DID folk on what it actually is? (Yes I am genuenly curious)

    • @Feverm00n
      @Feverm00n 6 місяців тому +16

      @@johnynoway9127 the reality for me is mundane, I’m mostly just spacey and have piss poor memory…
      I don’t have any great knowledge of or communication with the other alters, and really extreme black out switches are pretty rare. Different alters still definitely come around at different times but it is often very subtle, I don’t always even realize there’s been a switch save for the strange feeling of having just arrived somewhere I’ve already been for hours.
      The other alters also don’t have a strong attachment to being seen as whole people or differentiated from me. Every alter refers to themselves as me, if that makes sense. Any names are mostly chosen for identification purposes rather than identity purposes.
      I also have plenty of periods of time where there aren’t any switches or overt symptoms. I do deal with a lot of dissociation (the spacey part), but even that waxes and wanes in intensity.
      No drastic outfit changes or makeup, no accents, no superpowers, no evil alters. About 96% of DID is covert, which means it’s under the radar, subtle, and would be difficult to identify in a person unless you knew them incredibly well AND you knew a ton about DID.
      I hope this gives some clarity, thanks for wanting to know! I’m happy to answer any additional questions you might have, too.

  • @bregowego
    @bregowego Рік тому +201

    I canNOT with the names! Skylenna? Dementia? This is giving me reminders of Lucy Score’s Things We Never Got Over and the town being named Knockemout

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +28

      OMG that is NOT the name of the town?! Hahahaha what are people thinking?

  • @lazylunarwitch
    @lazylunarwitch 11 місяців тому +188

    I feel like 97.6% of dark romance (maybe romance in general) would be better if authors put even the tiniest bit of effort into understanding human psychology so characters make choices that make sense for who they are and what they’ve been through.

  • @alex9581
    @alex9581 Рік тому +182

    I think my favourite part about this is there was absolutely 0 reason for it to be set in the weird dystopia it’s set in

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +44

      There was very little reason involved in any of this book BUT I highly agree. Aside from the random placement of oil sconces, this was just the world as we know it? Stupid all around

    • @rittenremedy
      @rittenremedy 9 місяців тому +7

      absolutely kills me that so many of these dark romance stories could be decent with like, some effort and a good editor. really just the effort would push this one out of "basic shocking cash grab" into "enjoyable romp through an on fire dumpster." 😢 deconstructed Victorian asylum dystopia with dark romance and humanity given back to the characters? I would like to read that. This? This is not that.

  • @rinnielikesmemes
    @rinnielikesmemes Рік тому +105

    “the thought of meeting people like this turns my bowels watery.” …….. i’m finna pull a scarlet .

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +15

      the face i made when i read it the first time, i swear

    • @rinnielikesmemes
      @rinnielikesmemes Рік тому +15

      I was at a loss for words just from you describing it. THROW THE WHOLE AUTHOR IN THE BIN!! 😂

    • @johnynoway9127
      @johnynoway9127 8 місяців тому +2

      Theres a guy who puts on voices of famous cartoon characters and he kept repeating this sentence over n over lol

  • @sava-smth
    @sava-smth Рік тому +239

    Ah, it's that bad harley/jocker fanfic I've heard about! Neat!
    How even this got published 😂

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +98

      Holy shit is that what this is?! Harley Quinn and Joker fanfic?? Now that you’ve said it, I could see it 👀

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +65

      And I’m pretty sure she self published so that’s how that happened lol

    • @alex9581
      @alex9581 Рік тому +17

      Oh my god I thought it was Harry Potter, this is somehow even worse

    • @verdancyhime
      @verdancyhime Рік тому +9

      ​@weirdobookclub yeah I'm pretty sure some of the books I see on kindle unlimited aren't even written by humans they feel AI generated

    • @crazysmall.artist
      @crazysmall.artist Рік тому +4

      ​@@verdancyhime oh shit 😵‍💫

  • @blondemaverick
    @blondemaverick Рік тому +127

    I need you to know that the closed captions autogenerate Skylena as Skylander... and that almost makes this story bearable LOL

  • @zetaszeros238
    @zetaszeros238 11 місяців тому +42

    Not me reading the title as “the prawn and the puppet” and clicking to see wtf kind of book would have that title 😂

  • @sava-smth
    @sava-smth Рік тому +117

    Author really struggles with names and ... how society works.
    I'm sorry Scarlett and Violet?! Like pokemon?¿

  • @emmaexlibris
    @emmaexlibris 5 місяців тому +6

    i got an ad on hulu for “skyrizi” and was like “wait isn’t that that one terrible protagonist”

  • @arachnescurse3315
    @arachnescurse3315 5 місяців тому +6

    Land mines. It's like walking through a field a land mines. The thing that's famous for exploding when you step on it. Not grenades. GRENADES DON'T EXPLODE BY STEPPING ON THEM

  • @readwithrhys
    @readwithrhys 2 роки тому +89

    Rhys here, I can’t stand all the SMILIES OH MY GOD. THEY DONT MAKE ANY SENSE. Anyway, 10/10 video, made me laugh like Rachel’s 😂

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  2 роки тому +17

      They were insufferable 😣 thank you so much for watching ❤️❤️❤️

  • @summerb5153
    @summerb5153 Рік тому +49

    Sketching the puppet for no reason KILLED ME. I CAN'T 🤣🤣🤣

  • @happyjellycatsquid
    @happyjellycatsquid Рік тому +30

    Icing on cobbler ? No. That’s a no from me, almost as disgusting as being name “SKYLENNA” 🤢

  • @SallySueSaywhatagain
    @SallySueSaywhatagain 10 місяців тому +10

    Your editing is **chef's kiss** Those deadpan inserts when you say Skylenna during the summary gets me every. Time!

  • @olivia5024
    @olivia5024 9 місяців тому +10

    awe shes named after an IUD brand how cute

  • @KristenReviews
    @KristenReviews Рік тому +32

    As someone who is getting their MA in the mental health field, I am tempted to hate-read this and tear it apart. But at the same time, I don’t want to give this author any more attention, even if it is negative.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +15

      Long shot but maybe the library or a friend has a copy you could borrow so you aren’t supporting the author. I’m sure you’d have a lot to say about this mess

    • @KristenReviews
      @KristenReviews Рік тому +5

      @@weirdobookclub That’s a good idea! Thanks!

    • @Stonedandbookish
      @Stonedandbookish Рік тому +8

      Literally the only time I approve of pirating is for stuff like this. Bc authors that cause so much harm do not deserve support.
      Edit: I'm also going into the field! I'm about to get my bachelor's in clinical psychology

  • @oddeyes9413
    @oddeyes9413 Рік тому +44

    How... just how the fuckle duckle did this book make it past sensitivity readers? And the editors?! What even is this chaotic embolism?! 🥴

    • @hbsupreme1499
      @hbsupreme1499 Рік тому

      Sensitivity readers

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +10

      it was self published so I am sure the editors and sensitivity readers (if they existed) were struggling. They clearly missed some stuff!

  • @commissarcry64
    @commissarcry64 Рік тому +91

    Dementia was the name of half of the shivering isles in Oblivion where everyone was very depressed.
    I can categorically say the game handled mental health better than this book.
    Really great review!

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +16

      I've never played Oblivion but that seems like they made a more mindful choice with Dementia.

    • @lycianempire
      @lycianempire Рік тому +6

      It's also the name of Fester's girlfriend in Addams Family: Family Values.

  • @angrydoggi
    @angrydoggi 11 місяців тому +23

    I have DID.
    Im genuinely so sick of my illness being demonized. :/

  • @xenrusxenomorph2268
    @xenrusxenomorph2268 Рік тому +32

    I ask if this is what people are into, but if there are into this...
    I'm afraid what really churns their butter.
    This review has opened me to a world that I'm... Completely unprepared for.

  • @chloesmith4740
    @chloesmith4740 9 місяців тому +10

    Okay I gotta say I actually kind of fuck with the watery bowels line. That is very funny and puts a picture in my head of how uncomfortable that meeting would be😭😭😂 that sounds like something I’d say to my roommate I can’t lie

  • @ladyburnside1201
    @ladyburnside1201 9 місяців тому +9

    I love your little “Goofy” laugh when something is completely incredulous 😂😂😂😂

  • @vapiddreamscape
    @vapiddreamscape 11 місяців тому +13

    there's a fantasy subgenre called gaslamp/oilamp fantasy (it tends to be very victorian/steampunk in its origina) and i think this writer took that literally 😂

    • @johnynoway9127
      @johnynoway9127 8 місяців тому

      where else would you get gas lamps or oil lamps?

  • @chelonianmobile
    @chelonianmobile Рік тому +25

    Asylum for Wayward Victorian Girls did this concept better.

  • @verdancyhime
    @verdancyhime Рік тому +25

    I'm less than 5 minutes into this video and this is harley quinn x joker fanfiction. 😂😂

    • @verdancyhime
      @verdancyhime Рік тому +7

      Update
      That is not how grenades work

  • @Ellie-wk2cf
    @Ellie-wk2cf Рік тому +18

    I don’t know if you will see this since you uploaded this 11 months ago but I just found your channel. 1 Dementia is also the middle name of the main character in the Harry Potter fan fiction My Immortal. 2 most of the names in this book sound like character names I have created using the random name generator in World of Warcraft. I love your channel.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +7

      I have heard so much about My Immortal and I’m guessing I will need to do a rant on it one day too! Thanks so much for watching and commenting ♥️

  • @dexaria
    @dexaria Рік тому +15

    This sounds like exactly the sort of thing that I would I thought was the height of literature as an Edgy Teen™️😂

  • @BritneyT.
    @BritneyT. 10 місяців тому +2

    Funny enough, right after you read "thunder without a sound" it started thundering and raining outside my window right after

  • @dns2388
    @dns2388 Рік тому +19

    Scarlet and Violet, the Pokemon people lol

  • @cartoonhippie6610
    @cartoonhippie6610 Рік тому +8

    It's frustrating because I am always down to clown with good criticism of the mental healthcare system and patriarchy, but this is... clearly not that.

  • @shaywise
    @shaywise 6 місяців тому +3

    Skylenna is such a transparent Mary Sue character 😂

  • @BattyCobalt
    @BattyCobalt Рік тому +15

    IT'S CALLED DEMENTIA????
    edit: with a CLUB? what is this guy, a cave troll?? they have electroshock therapy, but not belts????
    edit again: NINETY DAYS???????????
    edit, the squeaquel: ok, that first edit was in poor taste maybe. not my finest moment. but at least i am not fleeing into Thee Woods... On A Motorcycle (??)
    edit, tokyo drift: fantastic review i will never read this book

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +6

      Dementia and Albatros Ivaste and Skylenna, just the worst names ever.

  • @emilyepew
    @emilyepew 11 місяців тому +3

    This book is two crimes in one because not only is it extremely harmful to pretty much every community, but its also terrible

  • @ShadowDawn
    @ShadowDawn Рік тому +22

    I saw the sequel video in my recommended feed and figured I'd watch this one first. Good video! Subscribed!

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +5

      Hey, thanks! I really appreciate it and hope you're excited for my next rant. A DOOZY

  • @CelticGuardian7
    @CelticGuardian7 6 місяців тому +1

    Despite seeing Rachel's video about it, I totally forgot the continent was named Dementia. I think it was my brain trying to preserve itself. Now it's back in my head. Fudge. XD

  • @Cakelynn6
    @Cakelynn6 Рік тому +11

    I’m late to this video but I am howling as you read snippets from the book. Will for sure not be reading but am a new fan of yours 😂

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +2

      I'm honored, thank you so much and thanks for subscribing

  • @SevenReads007
    @SevenReads007 Рік тому +6

    The name of the world being DEMENTIA is interesting, but I could see where the author is coming from kinda, like a lot of medical names sound fantasy-world-esque. But DEMENTIA??? Rlly? And then Chandelier rlly took the cake and my last brain cell. Barely 5 mins in and I know this is about to be a rocky ride.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому

      Horrible book. I hope you saved room for the second one, because I read and yelled about that one too and it got so much worse.

  • @shortinsomniac76
    @shortinsomniac76 10 місяців тому +3

    Oh yeah this is harley×joker fanfiction the nurse who was paraliced sounds like a refference to Barbara Gordon (wich uhhhh gross)

  • @bacncake
    @bacncake 11 місяців тому +4

    I love how you start the videos with a customer service voice and then when you start actually speaking about the book you have a not for customers voice. Lol me too

  • @couchz
    @couchz 3 місяці тому +1

    Love your content Natalie, I just wanted to say thank you so much for doing your due diligence and providing content warnings for everything. Got a little over halfway through this one but I'm probably going to stop there because I'm both transgender AND experience symptoms of DID/OSDD. I'm really passionate about portraying these demographics correctly and obviously, neither were in the book. Leaving this comment to help your engagement because I hope your channel grows! Thanks again ❤

  • @Rosabella.Thorne7
    @Rosabella.Thorne7 9 місяців тому

    My friend, who is like a sister to me, has DID, and she does more harm to herself than others. I really want to help her as a aspiring psychologist.

  • @xxDeeMmmVeexx
    @xxDeeMmmVeexx 11 місяців тому +5

    I just discovered your channel and I’ve been binge listening as I clean my house… you are like the queer friend/sister I always wanted that like myself has a weird craving for tearing up modern lit… so thank you 💕

  • @maryamshaikh8017
    @maryamshaikh8017 Рік тому +6

    I read book 1 yesterday and book 2 of this series today...i just want this to end at this point.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +5

      thoughts and prayers for you on this journey :P

    • @Stonedandbookish
      @Stonedandbookish Рік тому +3

      Honestly the fact that you continued the series is admirable. I Could never

  • @WizardSylthfarn
    @WizardSylthfarn 7 місяців тому +6

    me, a person with partial DID: oh boy i cant wait to rip this apart of "THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS"
    starting off with the backstory...yeah that sounds fake as hell. first of all he would have to be younger than 9 when all this happened for him to even develop DID so depending on how old he was...im already doubtful. DID also forms as a coping mechanism for repeated abuse so no, dessin was NOT born from an isolated incident. that isnt how it works.
    also "core personality" is...honestly really harmful and gross as if this whole book isn’t but it's hard to even determine what the "original" identity is sometimes. sometimes it doesnt exist anymore. thats how DID is. also if dessin is fronting the most often, that would essentially make him the "host" personality. DID is complicated.
    it's kind of funny in a stupid gross way that theyre making the protector violent instead of the persecutor for once. protectors are there to PROTECT the system from further harm. for me that means my protector getting extremely angry on my behalf and sometimes being a lil mean but sure, yeah. let's make the people with DID the villains and not the victims.

  • @kitsune-c8j
    @kitsune-c8j 11 місяців тому +3

    A buggy is a carriage lol she's got princess swag I guess

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  11 місяців тому

      Makes sense because they also have a motorcycle randomly show up too.

  • @madiskin
    @madiskin 11 місяців тому +3

    Be honest with me, did this book somehow start off as Harley Quinn x Joker fanfic? It just has the vibe…

  • @HannahVerret-f5u
    @HannahVerret-f5u Рік тому +10

    "shittily"

  • @emilyepew
    @emilyepew 11 місяців тому +1

    Take a shot every time something isnt explained

  • @shanepacheco6878
    @shanepacheco6878 Місяць тому

    what i genuinely don’t understand is that the author wrote in an intricate system involving female oppression that could’ve been so genuinely interesting if explored, but set it as solely a backdrop for a romantic couple ??? like, it could’ve been SO interesting if we mainly explored the oppression in that society, but nooooooo

  • @elizabethgrey6040
    @elizabethgrey6040 11 місяців тому +1

    As soon as I heard “split personality” I knew how bad this was gonna be 😭

  • @LeoGirl80
    @LeoGirl80 8 місяців тому +1

    SERTRALINE HIVE STAND UP!!!!!!!

  • @nylogutz_
    @nylogutz_ 10 місяців тому +2

    0:01 So real

  • @Marie45610
    @Marie45610 3 місяці тому

    "field of grenades" ..... does she mean landmines?

  • @Ketutar
    @Ketutar 11 місяців тому +3

    Scarlet, Violet and Skylenna? OK.

  • @spaceorc1397
    @spaceorc1397 5 місяців тому

    Eggshell knees made me burst out laughing!

  • @Ashtree29
    @Ashtree29 9 місяців тому +2

    Misrepresentation of trans people and transphobia, hoooo boy I sure did pick a good video of yours to start with...

  • @morgandavis4930
    @morgandavis4930 9 місяців тому

    “A beautiful love story” grossss
    Thank you for spoiling this garbage

  • @AntheanCeilliers
    @AntheanCeilliers 11 місяців тому +1

    SKYLENNA ?? that's what you're going with huh

  • @MissSeaShell
    @MissSeaShell Рік тому +1

    This is definitely the worst one you've read that I've watched so far lmao oh my God

  • @candicethompson7357
    @candicethompson7357 Рік тому +6

    I love these videos 😅❤

  • @viy2959
    @viy2959 Рік тому +5

    You cant just misrepresent things and then say it's fine because you trigger warned for it.

  • @blair4865
    @blair4865 13 днів тому

    should've named the mc renesme, i wouldve preferred it

  • @kindallb
    @kindallb Рік тому +15

    Subscribed based on this review! Thanks for the video 😊

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +1

      Awesome thank you so much! It was a rough ride but I’m glad it got you here, welcome 💕

  • @dumbysoup9011
    @dumbysoup9011 11 місяців тому +1

    What kind of name is Skylenna 💀

  • @kitty-vicious
    @kitty-vicious Рік тому +6

    This is a year old and you've prolly been told at some point, but just in case you haven't, you're not supposed to say w*ndigo, it's an Algonquin thing. X, O, etc, though, I'm enjoying casually marathoning your content

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +2

      I actually haven’t heard this at all. Is it not supposed to be spoken of because it’s offensive or is it a superstition thing? Or both? I’m gonna look into it of course but I was just curious if you had any more insight!

    • @kitty-vicious
      @kitty-vicious Рік тому +2

      @weirdobookclub I'm not the BEST source being a *hank hill voice* hwhite, but the gist is that yt people have taken the w*ndigo myth as a fun quirky spooky ghost story when it's a part of the Algonquin spiritual practice, bastardized it into something completely unrecognizable (ie Supernatural's depiction), and been super disrespectful to Natives who have asked them to cut that shit out. Saying the word is a taboo thing (I think it attracts the spirit to your location? But also;;;;; Natives have asked that we don't say it, and that's kind of the only reason I need, I guess.) It's a cultural appropriation thing.

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  11 місяців тому +3

      @@kitty-vicious this is good to know, thank you for telling me because I honestly had no idea! Probably because it has been so white washed that I never knew the true origin of it and like a dope, didn't think of looking it up before i filmed. I will not mention it moving forward!

  • @nicolewimbley8653
    @nicolewimbley8653 11 місяців тому

    It’s the names for me!😂😂😂

  • @krystinay
    @krystinay Рік тому +3

    This is my favorite thing

    • @krystinay
      @krystinay Рік тому

      Comment for clarity: I MEAN THESE REVIEWS NOT THIS BOOK

    • @weirdobookclub
      @weirdobookclub  Рік тому +2

      hahaha I didn't want to assume but thank you for clarifying :D

  • @peachietie
    @peachietie Місяць тому

    wails in DID