I wish that the movie added in the scene from the book of Peeta decorating Finnick and Annie’s wedding cake as part of his recovery.. it really shows that a part of the old him is still there even if he’s still badly affected by the hijacking
@EricGraham94 Joanna should have joined Star Squad 451 and gave her life away instead. Holding back the mutts for Finnick. That's how you set Snow's backyard on fire.
@@wickdaline8668 I don’t know about Joanna dying, but definitely a criticism I have of her in Mockingjay - movies and book - is even after she’s retrieved from the Capitol, she’s just senselessly sarcastic. She was a fighter in Catching Fire, and just complaining and poking at Katniss in Mockingjay. It would’ve been poetic justice for her to be on the battlefield; she has every reason to return to the Capitol albeit willingly to just wreak havoc.
God damn, I still remember this scene and it honestly hurt more than the time he tried to choke her. You see the longing in her eyes and the pain she's going through when talking to him. And his words come out like knives, cold and without any feeling of warmth. It feels like you're talking to a person with no compassion which is for sure what Peeta has been trained to become.
It’s kind of like the amnesia trope but even worse, because it’s not like he doesn’t remember her… he does but sees her as a monster. It hurts more because Peeta has always been sweet and has been someone who always saw the good in her, when katniss couldn’t see it and didn’t believe it at first and now Katniss believes that Peeta finally sees her for who she truly is, and that what Peeta is saying is right. Peeta has always been good with words, so it’s why this hurts even more than when he attacked her because even in his hijacked state, he still knows what words to use to really get to her where it hurts the most
I’m glad that Haymitch made Katniss go in there. He was constantly putting her ahead of Peeta-like everyone else- and she needed the reminder that not everything is about her from someone who wasn’t hijacked. I think Haymitch also needed to atone for never prioritizing Peeta.
She never wanted to be prioritiezd. She never wanted to be the mockingjay. She didn't even wanted to rebel. That's shows for me at which point Haymitch is hard with her.
I'm glad too cause it shows Haymitch cared about Peeta as much as he cared about Katniss. Both were his tributes, and even though he prioritized Katniss in the Games, he still loved Peeta.
It wasn't??? Well! It should have been!!! 🤣🤣That line was perfect! I'm pretty sure that hurt more than when he choked her. That line was one big slap to the face.
@@bubblefish5847the book version of this scene was something else, I think having that line in the movie is better for the movie and really impactful. Book Peeta was extra cold and petty in this scene, he was twisting katniss gears that much that she got angry and would lash out back to him even though she knows that she shouldn’t because it’s not him
@@clover2739 Yeah, I agree I noticed that when watching this too. I do think both are better for their mediums, the books just have more time to get into stuff so they can let their characters be worse to each other whereas if they did that here I think it would put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Katniss in general is just more combative in the books, and Peeta after leaving the Capitol is vicious for a while in how he talks to and treats Katniss, but doing this works better in the movies because there's less time for the audience to grow attached to her and Peeta compared to reading the trilogy
Not that he was lying, I watched the four movies again, Peeta put his feelings front and centre from the beginning, try to protect Katniss allying with careers, continue with the charade even at the cost of his own feelings, and what he receive in exchange, a thank you, an embrace, no, Katniss continue to be stoic as a rock, giving mixing messages, even if Peeta was torture, he have no reason to continue to play the charade anymore, even that left him broken.
Poor Joanna. Her friendship with Katniss is so…real. Yes, I call it a friendship. They both care about the other, but they were both so damn screwed up they’d never acknowledge it. They also understood each other the way no one else could, not even Haymitch.
@@jonny8790 no what hit hard was that slap when she slapped katniss and then when she was in the elevator with Peet’s and katniss Jennifer’s facial expressions were spot on😂
That dialogue is so hurtful! At 4:02 Im a huge fan of the novels. Cried the first time i read them. I remember in the books peeta also said somewhere to Finnick that take care of Annie or I'll take her away from you. Such declaration infront of katniss! Katniss was disturbed by it!
@@xochilaguirre7499 Annie was captured with Peeta and Johanna. Peeta probaly felt protective of her because they went through it together. They messed with his memories so he probably didn't trust Finnick at that time because Finnick was a friend to Katniss. He wanted to make sure Annie was happy and safe.
In the books they become pretty decent friends by this point. They dont sugarcoat things arround each other so they can come off as hostile but thats their dynamic. Katniss even gifts her pine needles to remind her of the scent of her home. Sadly the movies didnt cover it.
Joanna never hates Katniss, she hates capitol and snow for taking everything from her. She became mad at that point but she never really hate anyone besides those 2.
In the books, she and Katniss actually develop a friendship and move in together as roomates. I wish the movies gave us more time for friendship between Katniss and the other victors :(
Peeta should regret. Katniss has never been kind to Peeta like he deserves. Forget about love. Everything that she did for him was kinda forced out of her, because Peeta was just that selfless.
@@Nairaa.835 And if katniss had never been that way, neither of them would have survived until the end. It took katniss a while but she did indeed Genuinely love Peeta, throughout catching fire into mockingjay and into the very ending.
Maybe, but he would have died in the arena along with Prim. They kept eachother alive. Without Katniss, Kato would probably have won, maybe Thresh or Clove, and everything would have stayed the same.
@@rachael8646 I mean, there is no way Prim was ever participating in the games. The bread was not just for Katniss. It was for her, Prim, and their mom, and so Katniss could get the energy to hunt again.
@@henrypeters5291 true. I figured Katniss would feed Prim first, but I guess if Katniss died, they definitely would die. Except wouldn't they take out more tessera to survive?
@@rachael8646Katniss was only 11 when this happened, she desperately waited for her birthday in May (given the dandelions the day after Peeta threw her the bread, it was probably April).
Some of the best scenes in the Mockingjay movies. Stellar acting from everyone involved. I still don't get why they replaced Peeta's line in the book, "I must have loved you a lot" with "I should have given the bread to the pigs". The movie's line isn't bad, the change just seems unnecessary.
Because they wanted to show that Peeta was gone and really hurt Katniss. "I must have loved you a lot" really doesn't have the same impact. You have to remember that a movie is very different from a book. The pacing is different, you don't have the same time to show the same things. Changes are inevitable.
@@ptitepeluche05 "You have to remember?" Really? Of course I know a movie is different, I simply disagree with you. I think the book line would have had as much or more impact in the movie as well. (I don't know why you mention pacing, the two lines take up the exact same amount of time.) One reason I prefer the book line is it is less aggressive - Peeta is better at this point, he's gotten some of his old personality back, and _still his love for Katniss isn't back_ ("I must have loved you a lot", meaning I don't anymore). That's even more tragic than if he were being simply mean and self-pitying (wishing he hadn't helped her), because then Katniss can't blame it on that or him so easily.
@@monmothma3358 i mentioned pacing because just like you said, "I must have loved you a lot" is not aggressive so it would be weird to go from choking to kill to something like this. Katniss didn't talk to Peeta since the aggression and they didn't include the lunch scene in the movie. So it would be weird to go from extreme aggression to "i don't remember loving you but I don't hate you so much now".
ugh i just rewatched this movie the millionth time and i just cant get over this damn movie series 😪 its extremely good im speechless everytime i finish this trilogy
“All I know is, I would’ve saved myself from a lot of suffering if I’d just give that bread to the Pig” dude, Peeta is mean. That’s such a mean thing to say.
@@Schnipps Well, Peeta was thrown there too. And like he said , no one needed him. But he matured up. And was there for her. And Even if she was a child ( which is not true.. she was the breadwinner of her family, she grew up before her time.. which isn't healthy either) , she was a hunter and a killer, thus should be capable of accounting for her actions. And yet couldn't wrap her head around the basic emotional care she received. And continued to be thankless for quite sometime. Understandable But Shameful. Being a child doesn't exempt people from accountability. It's understandable but punishable nonetheless. That's why child killers "who have killer intents" are given juvie and grow up to be deranged mostly.
He most likely would have been killed in the 12 bombing with the rest of his family. The house he lived in was just a bunch of bricks after catching fire
@@CamGlamoroushe definitely wouldn’t have been, because Peeta would’ve been at the capitol regardless since if he wasn’t a tribute he would’ve been Haymitch and Katniss mentor, and they’re always at the capitol with the tributes. Plus even if he wasn’t a mentor and didn’t go to the capitol, he still probably wouldn’t have been bombed because victors village where Peeta lives was left completely untouched. Peeta’s family didn’t live with him, they still lived at the bakery and didn’t move in with Peeta to his new home after he won. The movies don’t explain it well but his relationship with his family is really complicated. It’s an abusive household and even after he almost died in the games and was traumatised they didn’t bother staying with him and helping him. Katniss had her family with her after the games so the house was very warm, and Peeta at 16 was left in that huge house alone (which is even worse book wise, especially since he lost a leg in the first hunger games in the book and was struggling with relearning how to walk with a prosthetic)
That's his point. He lost his leg, he lost his entire family, he was tortured and brainwashed for weeks. I think at this point, he believes death would have been easier. Don't forget he's only 17 years old. What he went through is more than any child could take.
Attention seeking habits? Where? I’ve always said it but when woman character in media have flaws that make them human, people aren’t as forgiving when it comes to them. God forbid a teenage girl who never wanted to be a part of this in any way and just wanted to save her sister is traumatised behind belief and acts like a teenage girl who is only focusing about what she cares about at the moment, rather than being controlled like a puppet. Finnick who is 24, compared to katniss who’s 17 was exactly the same way as katniss until he got Annie back, in fact he was way worse but katniss isn’t allowed to get away with it because they need to use her as their pawn and she can’t have a say in it. I feel like people are just harsh, because I feel like growing up is the opposite. When I was younger I used to not understand how young she was, or all the trauma so I’d get annoyed at all the negative things about her but then I grew up and read and watched the series again and understand and sympathise with her a lot more.
@@clover2739 Fr, people complain when characters don't have any flaws and call them one-deminsional or a Mary Sue if their perfect, but at the same time hate when they are written as realistic people who would react to trauma similarily.
I love Johanna as well, sadly they cut out a whole section of the books of katniss and Johanna’s roommate era where they train together and become friends, it’s a shame really even though I know the movies can’t have everything
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I wish that the movie added in the scene from the book of Peeta decorating Finnick and Annie’s wedding cake as part of his recovery.. it really shows that a part of the old him is still there even if he’s still badly affected by the hijacking
I needed that
the hijacking it gone peeta you better dog
@@camronchristopherpoellnitz7456 did you have a stroke while writing this or something? 😭
Finnick and Annie deserved a happier ending.
Finnick didn’t deserve to die
@EricGraham94 Joanna should have joined Star Squad 451 and gave her life away instead. Holding back the mutts for Finnick. That's how you set Snow's backyard on fire.
@@wickdaline8668 I don’t know about Joanna dying, but definitely a criticism I have of her in Mockingjay - movies and book - is even after she’s retrieved from the Capitol, she’s just senselessly sarcastic. She was a fighter in Catching Fire, and just complaining and poking at Katniss in Mockingjay. It would’ve been poetic justice for her to be on the battlefield; she has every reason to return to the Capitol albeit willingly to just wreak havoc.
@@EricGraham94that was my favourite part. i laughed in the cinema, and the people looked back at me in disgust. wtf?
finnick is at of weeding
God damn, I still remember this scene and it honestly hurt more than the time he tried to choke her. You see the longing in her eyes and the pain she's going through when talking to him. And his words come out like knives, cold and without any feeling of warmth. It feels like you're talking to a person with no compassion which is for sure what Peeta has been trained to become.
It’s kind of like the amnesia trope but even worse, because it’s not like he doesn’t remember her… he does but sees her as a monster. It hurts more because Peeta has always been sweet and has been someone who always saw the good in her, when katniss couldn’t see it and didn’t believe it at first and now Katniss believes that Peeta finally sees her for who she truly is, and that what Peeta is saying is right. Peeta has always been good with words, so it’s why this hurts even more than when he attacked her because even in his hijacked state, he still knows what words to use to really get to her where it hurts the most
I’m glad that Haymitch made Katniss go in there. He was constantly putting her ahead of Peeta-like everyone else- and she needed the reminder that not everything is about her from someone who wasn’t hijacked. I think Haymitch also needed to atone for never prioritizing Peeta.
She never wanted to be prioritiezd. She never wanted to be the mockingjay. She didn't even wanted to rebel. That's shows for me at which point Haymitch is hard with her.
I mean it is about Katniss though, that's why she's the main character, none of this would've ever happened if it weren't for her.
I'm glad too cause it shows Haymitch cared about Peeta as much as he cared about Katniss. Both were his tributes, and even though he prioritized Katniss in the Games, he still loved Peeta.
“…if I had just given that bread to the pig.” That line wasn’t even in the book
And that must have hurt her a lot
It wasn't??? Well! It should have been!!! 🤣🤣That line was perfect! I'm pretty sure that hurt more than when he choked her. That line was one big slap to the face.
@@bubblefish5847the book version of this scene was something else, I think having that line in the movie is better for the movie and really impactful. Book Peeta was extra cold and petty in this scene, he was twisting katniss gears that much that she got angry and would lash out back to him even though she knows that she shouldn’t because it’s not him
@@clover2739 Yeah, I agree I noticed that when watching this too. I do think both are better for their mediums, the books just have more time to get into stuff so they can let their characters be worse to each other whereas if they did that here I think it would put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Katniss in general is just more combative in the books, and Peeta after leaving the Capitol is vicious for a while in how he talks to and treats Katniss, but doing this works better in the movies because there's less time for the audience to grow attached to her and Peeta compared to reading the trilogy
You can see in her eyes the stabbing pain of his words turned into the realization that Peeta is gone.
Not that he was lying, I watched the four movies again, Peeta put his feelings front and centre from the beginning, try to protect Katniss allying with careers, continue with the charade even at the cost of his own feelings, and what he receive in exchange, a thank you, an embrace, no, Katniss continue to be stoic as a rock, giving mixing messages, even if Peeta was torture, he have no reason to continue to play the charade anymore, even that left him broken.
I love the fact capitol couldn't broke Joanna because she already has. The torture only makes her more.. angrier.
"Feel free to take any of this personally" 😂
Poor Joanna. Her friendship with Katniss is so…real. Yes, I call it a friendship. They both care about the other, but they were both so damn screwed up they’d never acknowledge it. They also understood each other the way no one else could, not even Haymitch.
I wouldn’t call it friendship but mutual respect is definitely there…
They had a mutual respect in the films. But in the book they were definitely friends.
Joanna's sigh when she looks at Katniss's locket hits hard.
@@jonny8790 no what hit hard was that slap when she slapped katniss and then when she was in the elevator with Peet’s and katniss Jennifer’s facial expressions were spot on😂
That dialogue is so hurtful! At 4:02
Im a huge fan of the novels. Cried the first time i read them. I remember in the books peeta also said somewhere to Finnick that take care of Annie or I'll take her away from you. Such declaration infront of katniss! Katniss was disturbed by it!
Why did he say that?? Was it because he was hurt he wanted what Annie and gimmick had or?
Do you remember what chapter of the book he says that?
@@xochilaguirre7499 Annie was captured with Peeta and Johanna. Peeta probaly felt protective of her because they went through it together. They messed with his memories so he probably didn't trust Finnick at that time because Finnick was a friend to Katniss. He wanted to make sure Annie was happy and safe.
Johanna hates Katniss but still volunteered to cover for her
She hates Snow more
In the books they become pretty decent friends by this point.
They dont sugarcoat things arround each other so they can come off as hostile but thats their dynamic.
Katniss even gifts her pine needles to remind her of the scent of her home.
Sadly the movies didnt cover it.
@@cristianoliver4447I remember what Katniss did to Joanna when she had her mental break down. It means alot. I cried a bit actually
Joanna never hates Katniss, she hates capitol and snow for taking everything from her. She became mad at that point but she never really hate anyone besides those 2.
In the books, she and Katniss actually develop a friendship and move in together as roomates. I wish the movies gave us more time for friendship between Katniss and the other victors :(
In these scene, katniss once again hit the reality that her Peeta isn't Peeta anymore...
Katniss was actuallt very happy in this scene. Movie Katniss looks like she's envious, lol
So sad how the capital probably got Joanna hooked on morphling
I'm glad Katniss ended up with Peeta instead of Gale. I like Peeniss more than Kale.
"peeniss' 😂😂😂
yep it's more alive than vegetable
You just super wild. 😭
everlark who??
Huh 😂
Finnick is a good person when it comes to Annie. I hate that peeta regretted being kind to katniss.
Peeta should regret. Katniss has never been kind to Peeta like he deserves. Forget about love. Everything that she did for him was kinda forced out of her, because Peeta was just that selfless.
Katniss is just one of those characters who are so self absorbed, that they cannot respect the good in anyone.
@@Nairaa.835YEAH! After reading the books, that's just what I thought
@@Nairaa.835
And if katniss had never been that way, neither of them would have survived until the end.
It took katniss a while but she did indeed Genuinely love Peeta, throughout catching fire into mockingjay and into the very ending.
@@Teemo6544 yes. Everything happens for a reason.
Doesn't mean all of it is respect worthy through and through.
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Peeta's words were harsh, but he's not wrong.
Maybe, but he would have died in the arena along with Prim. They kept eachother alive. Without Katniss, Kato would probably have won, maybe Thresh or Clove, and everything would have stayed the same.
@@rachael8646 I mean, there is no way Prim was ever participating in the games. The bread was not just for Katniss. It was for her, Prim, and their mom, and so Katniss could get the energy to hunt again.
@@henrypeters5291 true. I figured Katniss would feed Prim first, but I guess if Katniss died, they definitely would die. Except wouldn't they take out more tessera to survive?
@@rachael8646 At the time when Peeta gave Katniss the bread, they had not eaten days, possibly weeks.
@@rachael8646Katniss was only 11 when this happened, she desperately waited for her birthday in May (given the dandelions the day after Peeta threw her the bread, it was probably April).
This video is worded so weird, it reads like Katniss and Finnick got married
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKINGG! I was like, "I don't remember this happening in the books?" lmao
Finnick deserves so much better 😭 he should not die
omg this gives so much nostalgia. and im so excited for the ballad of songbirds and snakes, who else is excited?
So excited!
Already got my ticket for Thursday!
Still excited?
Some of the best scenes in the Mockingjay movies. Stellar acting from everyone involved.
I still don't get why they replaced Peeta's line in the book, "I must have loved you a lot" with "I should have given the bread to the pigs". The movie's line isn't bad, the change just seems unnecessary.
Because they wanted to show that Peeta was gone and really hurt Katniss. "I must have loved you a lot" really doesn't have the same impact. You have to remember that a movie is very different from a book. The pacing is different, you don't have the same time to show the same things. Changes are inevitable.
@@ptitepeluche05 "You have to remember?" Really? Of course I know a movie is different, I simply disagree with you. I think the book line would have had as much or more impact in the movie as well. (I don't know why you mention pacing, the two lines take up the exact same amount of time.)
One reason I prefer the book line is it is less aggressive - Peeta is better at this point, he's gotten some of his old personality back, and _still his love for Katniss isn't back_ ("I must have loved you a lot", meaning I don't anymore).
That's even more tragic than if he were being simply mean and self-pitying (wishing he hadn't helped her), because then Katniss can't blame it on that or him so easily.
@@monmothma3358 i mentioned pacing because just like you said, "I must have loved you a lot" is not aggressive so it would be weird to go from choking to kill to something like this. Katniss didn't talk to Peeta since the aggression and they didn't include the lunch scene in the movie. So it would be weird to go from extreme aggression to "i don't remember loving you but I don't hate you so much now".
ugh i just rewatched this movie the millionth time and i just cant get over this damn movie series 😪 its extremely good im speechless everytime i finish this trilogy
“All I know is, I would’ve saved myself from a lot of suffering if I’d just give that bread to the Pig” dude, Peeta is mean. That’s such a mean thing to say.
That's also absolutely true.
People forget how incredibly self centred Katniss has always been through 3 of the books.
She hasn't deserved any of the kindness people have given her.
They are driven by her Charisma.
@@Nairaa.835come on that’s not true
@@Nairaa.835 She is literally a child thrown into a life or death 'game' and then made to be the face of an entire uprising. Give her a damn break.
@@Schnipps Well, Peeta was thrown there too. And like he said , no one needed him.
But he matured up.
And was there for her.
And Even if she was a child ( which is not true.. she was the breadwinner of her family, she grew up before her time.. which isn't healthy either) , she was a hunter and a killer, thus should be capable of accounting for her actions.
And yet couldn't wrap her head around the basic emotional care she received.
And continued to be thankless for quite sometime.
Understandable
But Shameful.
Being a child doesn't exempt people from accountability.
It's understandable but punishable nonetheless.
That's why child killers "who have killer intents" are given juvie and grow up to be deranged mostly.
Peeta would've saved himself a lot of suffering if he had just kept his mouth shut at the reaping.
He most likely would have been killed in the 12 bombing with the rest of his family. The house he lived in was just a bunch of bricks after catching fire
@@CamGlamoroushe definitely wouldn’t have been, because Peeta would’ve been at the capitol regardless since if he wasn’t a tribute he would’ve been Haymitch and Katniss mentor, and they’re always at the capitol with the tributes. Plus even if he wasn’t a mentor and didn’t go to the capitol, he still probably wouldn’t have been bombed because victors village where Peeta lives was left completely untouched. Peeta’s family didn’t live with him, they still lived at the bakery and didn’t move in with Peeta to his new home after he won. The movies don’t explain it well but his relationship with his family is really complicated. It’s an abusive household and even after he almost died in the games and was traumatised they didn’t bother staying with him and helping him. Katniss had her family with her after the games so the house was very warm, and Peeta at 16 was left in that huge house alone (which is even worse book wise, especially since he lost a leg in the first hunger games in the book and was struggling with relearning how to walk with a prosthetic)
How?
@@sabrinaerickson7098 he volunteered for Haymitch.
@@CJ55981 I was thinking of the first reaping (74th), that’s why I was confused. Now I see you were all talking about the quarter quell.
Peeta : All i know is I would’ve save myself a lot of suffering, if i’m just giving that bread to the pig..
Katniss : 💔💔💔
He’d also be dead if he gave the bread to the pig
Still would have saved him a lot of suffering though.
That's his point. He lost his leg, he lost his entire family, he was tortured and brainwashed for weeks. I think at this point, he believes death would have been easier. Don't forget he's only 17 years old. What he went through is more than any child could take.
Not exactly, have you heard of the butterfly effect? He might not have been picked
I supposed to give the bread to the pigs
They were really good movies. I enjoyed them. Books were good too. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I needed that
I love the movie and the book ofc, but I hope 10 or 20 years later if they decide to remake this movie, i hope they include more line from the book,
I love Joanna
finnick and Annie's got marry and love
how you doing peeta's
did the poeple said you love me
Honestly
Is this like oconnor and long bow?
the people said you love me
Joanna how are doing
It josh hutcherson
Second! Pin? ❤
I love the hunger games
the more i grow up , the more i am hating katmises attention seeking habits
Attention seeking habits? Where? I’ve always said it but when woman character in media have flaws that make them human, people aren’t as forgiving when it comes to them. God forbid a teenage girl who never wanted to be a part of this in any way and just wanted to save her sister is traumatised behind belief and acts like a teenage girl who is only focusing about what she cares about at the moment, rather than being controlled like a puppet.
Finnick who is 24, compared to katniss who’s 17 was exactly the same way as katniss until he got Annie back, in fact he was way worse but katniss isn’t allowed to get away with it because they need to use her as their pawn and she can’t have a say in it. I feel like people are just harsh, because I feel like growing up is the opposite. When I was younger I used to not understand how young she was, or all the trauma so I’d get annoyed at all the negative things about her but then I grew up and read and watched the series again and understand and sympathise with her a lot more.
wtf is wrong with you
The more u grow up the dumber u r it seems like
@@clover2739 Fr, people complain when characters don't have any flaws and call them one-deminsional or a Mary Sue if their perfect, but at the same time hate when they are written as realistic people who would react to trauma similarily.
Pff she is only bussy with her self! For peter 1 persone? And not think on al other people. And hero?more egoist al is about her sister and peter.
I love Joanna if she had more screen time she’s probably steal the show
I love Johanna as well, sadly they cut out a whole section of the books of katniss and Johanna’s roommate era where they train together and become friends, it’s a shame really even though I know the movies can’t have everything
@@clover2739Agreed