Toro vs Ego - Who Makes a Better Electric Lawn Mower?
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My beloved Ego Electric Lawn Mower has just become dethroned. This is the Toro vs Ego showdown and there is a new king in town and it's the Toro 60v 22 inch electric lawn mower. This mower solves some problems that I have had with the Ego electric mower. Some of the problems you might be surprised about.
Watch this video and choose which one is better for you.
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Translated titles:
Toro vs Ego-Qui fait une meilleure tondeuse à gazon électrique?
टोरो बनाम अहंकार-कौन बेहतर इलेक्ट्रि
Toro vs Ego-من الذي يجعل جزازة العشب الكهربائية أفضل؟
Toro vs Ego-Sino ang Gumagawa ng isang Mas Mahusay na Electric Lawn Mower?
Toro vs Ego-Siapa yang Membuat Mesin Pemotong Rumput Listrik Lebih Baik?
Toro vs Ego-¿Quién hace una mejor cortadora de césped eléctrica?
Toro vs Ego-Wer macht einen besseren elektrischen Rasenmäher?
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This review leaves out a lot of important considerations: 1. You didn't do a side-by-side comparison of the cut quality. Which mower leaves fewer stragglers? When set to the same height, which one mulches better and leaves fewer clumps of grass on the lawn? Which one produces the smoothest overall cut? 2. Battery capacity is only one factor as to how long a mower will run. The Toro you tested has a 6.0 Ah battery. The Ego has a 7.5 Ah battery. You should have tested the Toro with the optional 7.5 Ah battery. Then you could have given us actual side-by-side run times under equal conditions. 3. You point out that the Ego battery is 56 volts, and the Toro battery is 60 volts. Yet Toro's website says, "Battery manufacturer rating equal to 60-Volt maximum and 54-Volt typical usage, actual voltage varies with load." So what does all of this voltage gibberish mean when it comes to knowing how long the mower will run before it runs out of juice? Nothing. Again, please do a side-by-side comparison with batteries of equal capacity to tell us what we want to know. 4. How long does it take to recharge the battery? Ego says their 7.5 Ah battery will recharge in 60 minutes. Toro's website says it takes 150 minutes to recharge their 6.0 Ah battery, and 180 minutes to recharge their 7.5 Ah battery. Depending on battery capacity, Toro's batteries take two to three times as long to recharge as the Ego battery. Why didn't you mention this in your review? 5. Ego has a newer model with twin blades (like Honda gas mowers). Many reviewers are saying it mulches better and has more lift than the older model Ego in your review. To be fair, you should have compared Ego's newest mower to your new Toro (the cost is about the same). 6. The Ego has lights that help you mow when you're running out of sunlight. I personally don't consider this a big deal. But for the record, the Toro has no lights. I have a Honda gas mower. And I have no bias towards Toro or Ego. Both of the mowers you tested have advantages and disadvantages. But it seems your review was biased towards Toro from the beginning.
You have to go spend your own dollars and make your own review... Do like me...buy 2 mowers, Test them out, keep the one the fits your likes and return the one that does not!!!! I absolutely love the Torro based on my design wants...good luck!!
Well said
It seems like you are looking to start drama. This guy can't be that biased if he bought the Ego. Why are you worried about a side to side when he just told you the Toro is better which implies that he's satisfied with the cut quality.
@@drjd2real not at... Just being real...people go through a lot to make reviews for common folks like us.... just to help us out...
People always have opinions. I mowed with my Toro today and the Ego stayed in the shed. People can form their own opinions. Don’t just look at my video. Look at a bunch before making an educated purchase.
I bought the Ego that was in your test and I'm very pleased with the mowing experience. I've owned the same Toro recycler (gas) since 1992, she still runs. My cousin bought a newer Toro recycler a few years ago and after 5 uses the front wheel came apart. The black plastic tread separated from the white hub. Things aren't built like they used to be so 100 years in business means nothing today.
I bought a Toro 2 months ago. No complaints. Won't go back to gas. 6 amp hour bat is ok for 1/3 acre lawn. Takes 2-3 hours to charge from low.
This guy has a hard-on for Toro products!
Seems a bit bias for sure
Came to the comments to just to make sure it wasn’t just me that picked up on this.
This reeks of a “review” 😉😉 paid for by toro.
It seems all reviews either have a bias for toro or ego. Ego definitely has it's fair share of fan boys
Had too many issues with Toro...Just bought the EGO today and was totally impressed!!!
This seemed kinda like a paid comparison
You should have compared the Toro to the new EGO double blade and battery with fuel gauge. It is a beast!
I had a Toro gas mower and just bought the EGO self propelled. The EGO beats what my Toro did all the way. The suction is much better and the bag didn’t fill up quickly like my Toro mower did. Nothing like having a metal mower until it rust etc.
I too have a Toro and an EGO. My Toro is 27 years old. It is much more expensive than either of these two mowers, even back then. The current equivalent is more than both of these put together. Go to a Toro dealer and look at the 21" commercial mower and see for yourself. You will also notice that the deck is NOT steel. It is aluminum. Steel is for big box retail type disposable machines. Steel is ok until you get some rust underneath, then grass sticks to it. Rust never sleeps and then it is time to dispose of it. Mine also has rear wheel drive unlike the disposable mowers. The thing I dislike about it the most is the wheel height adjustments, they ARE just like yours, they are steel and they rust too. The little plastic end pieces break off and you need a hammer or a block of wood to do your adjustment, but with yours, the deck will be history before this becomes a problem.
The EGO is only in it's third year of service and I have only sharpened the blade so far. The plastic deck(ego makes a steel deck model also) stays clean and rust free underneath, it is very light, so light I would say you don't need the self propelled unless you have a fairly large lawn or are somewhat disabled. I use the EGO now primarily because of the lower maintenance. I hope that if I need parts they are not as outrageously priced as the Toro dealer. I'm pretty sure it will not last 27 years, but chances are neither will I.
Look at the rest of the tools in the battery platform you are choosing before you decide. That is a very important factor in the big picture.
Got two SR4’s myself, the only mowers I’ll NEVER sell. They actually do sell them now at HD which totally surprised me. Still never letting go of mine with the Briggs flathead engines though!
Carl McCoy - Good points. Another thing to check into is the replacement cost on the batteries for both mowers. That’s going to be your biggest expense, going forward. Toro always seemed to be a little too proud of their product. I bet theirs a more expensive. I never owned a Toro product, partly because of price and the fact that for years they didn’t have rear wheel drive on their walk-behinds, which I always thought was dumber than hell, especially when you’re mowing up-hill. But this electric mower by Toro in this review looks pretty impressive.
This is not entirely accurate. The 21" is the only one in that line up to have an aluminum deck and I suspect it's mostly about weight. Anything larger will use a thick steel deck. Aluminum is corrosion resistant but is also brittle and less resistant to impact.
I would love to put this 60V motor on my SR4. That would be better than any electric on the market, I think.
2cents here, I have a Cub Cadet with aluminum deck... F!@# that. 21 inch mower that weighs 135lbs empty. I can't replace the worn out rear wheels because they don't make them anymore and I'm glad. These new mowers are much lighter and here's hoping they can cut thick grass, cause I have some. I can't put that awkward 135lb beast in the back of my truck without possibly hurting myself anymore so good riddance. You can keep the thick assed aluminum deck.
Biggest difference. Toro took an existing frame and put an electric motor on it. Part number for the stuff on the deck is the same as most other Recyclers. So parts should be easy to get. The Ego is designed from the ground up to be an electric. Right down to the blade. Plastic decks advantage is it will never rust like a steel one can.
Thank you for the great video! I was set on buying an Ego. You’re watching your video and comparing them side-by-side, I opted for the Toro. Set up was a breeze and the controls were very intuitive. I mowed my Bermuda grass and it performed flawlessly. I went about 50 minutes and I still had one bar on the battery. My lawn has an incline and I can tell it was revving up going uphill. I am very happy with it plus I have 90 days so I can take it back if I’m not happy.
I have the Ego mower with dual 5.0 battery packs. I never found the plastic body of the mower to be an issue. It seems extremely thick and durable, and I don't see myself having any issues with it down the road. The only thing I will agree on is the self propelled function. It works well, but then when you want to slow down to turn or do a 180 sometimes the rear wheels do lock up. It's easy enough to deal with, but the Toro definitely seems to have a better system. Also not a deal breaker for me as I rarely use the self propelled function. With my 2 battery packs fully charged I can easily do my front and back yard (about an hour of mowing) and the battery still has over 25% left.
My previous mower is a 2 cycle Toro Commercial. I thought the bag on the new mower would be inferior, but it is not. It empties easier, less blowback into my face when dumping into a green waste bin. I tried it on 7" long wet grass. Worked well.
I hit a bush stump with my old MTD/Craftsman and bent the crankshaft. Went to HD and bought the Toro. Only thing I don't like is individual wheel adjustment vs the single handle I had on the MTD, but as said, you don't do it that often.
Yeah people are beating me up but I really like the toro. But Ego is like the Tesla of mowers. They have a devoted fan base and they really do make innovative products. I cannot wait to try the new ego mower.
While the 4 corner adjustment take some extra time, it's also more stable than a single point adjuster.
If you buy a Toro, you'll bend the shaft on the electric motor too. It has the same locking mechanism as the gas version that doesn't allow it to slip. The EGO has a keyed washer so that it applies the proper torque on the blade so it's impossible to loosen, but allows the blade to slip if it hits something stationary. The worst thing, you have to buy a new blade. It's just small details like that differentiate the mowers. Toro is a fine mower too. It's more old school. If you hit a stump, it's your fault mentality. One thing that kinda torques me off (pun intended) is how Toro misrepresents their 60v batteries, calling them 60v when they're not. That's pretty slimy marketing IMHO. If you read their fine print: "Disclaimer
*Battery manufacturer rating = 60V maximum & 54V typical usage." That's where they get their "60v Max" Pretty sneaky, huh? I'm not an EGO fanboy, just an engineer.
I have noticed that the battery on my ego has started degrading significantly after 2 years. Removing the bag on the ego is annoying, but not enough for me to buy another mower just yet. Thanks for the review.
Did you know that Toro had a battery lawnmower back in the mid-late 60's that ran on two 12 volt carbatteries. Our neighbors had one. He had to recharge it with a car type charger. I've never been able to find anything on it online and emailed Toro and got nowhere. But it did exist.
I bought one of these Toro mowers today. First electric mower I've ever had. It took me a bit to get used to the fact that it sounds like I'm vacuuming the lawn. There's a weird bit of dissonance when using it - it doesn't sound like it's doing anything, but it's flinging grass out of the side discharge, it doesn't even notice the hill in my back yard, and the one time I hit a stick it threw it with authority, and didn't even seem to care.
Looking at the mower closer, it appears that it is very much a high-end gasoline mower, that has an electric motor on it. The bolt pattern is the same in the deck, the self-propelled apparatus is the same. The Ego is a purpose built electric mower, the Toro is a retrofit. But it works great, it uses normal blades, normal cables, and likely standard size wheels, so you should be able to keep it alive for a long time.
Exactly. But Ego makes a great mower. But when you Ford breaks you can fix it with parts from Autozone and when you Tesla breaks.....well. You know.
@@UnboxWarehouse Exactly. I didn't want the most technically advanced mower, I wanted one that will still work five years from now.
@@Oddman1980 We'll see who's buying a new battery in 5 years. The battery with the longer-lasting advanced features that you don't have to read the manual because it puts itself in storage mode automatically or the one you mistakenly left charged over the winter because you might have thought that's the best way and didn't fully read the Toro manual on how to store it properly or just plain forgot to. Toro is the more old school, if you didn't read the manual fully it's your problem.
Thoughts; Toro seems to have the more complicated system to me. You still have a friggin belt to pop off and wear out. The personal pace seems like a gimmick I personally don't want. Does it wear the belt faster? How is it when mowing back and forth under bushes? The EGO has ball bearing wheels and will drive with the blade not spinning and you can mow without using it. I like that. I don't own either by the way and am unlikely to buy either. I am in the market, tho for a new mower.
New ego battery's have a power indicator. Thanks for you great comparison and hard work.
I've had a Craftsman 40V dual-battery model for 6 years. It is plastic. Absolutely no issues with the deck other than scuffs. Makes the mower much lighter and I never need to worry about rust. I noticed the current Super Recycler gas powered models are aluminum. This review swayed me to either the new gen 3 EGO SELECTCUT with dual-blades or the new Toro SMARTSTOW Super Recycler gas powered model. Definitely not a Toro electric.
So basically an ad for Toro. Lame.
Really helpful video for the buying decision I'm trying to make right now! Thank you! I actually bought a 21" EGO, which must be a generation or two after yours because the method for engaging power to the wheels is different now. There are 2 very elongated buttons that protrude from the handle and when you squeeze them into the handle, they engage the speed. However, as you pointed out, it doesn't vary based on your pace. There are 5 or so discrete speeds that you can select with a dial that revolves around that top center bar. However, that's utterly impractical to change the speed every time there's a little change in power need. I also found that the EGO was so much lighter and easier to push around than my previous gas mower, that I actually didn't WANT the powered wheels engaged. Plus, that just drains the battery faster. I imagine the Toro is a little heavier, with the better quality metal construction, but I wonder how much power it needs to the wheels. I think it would be near perfect if there were a switch so that you could fully turn off the power to the wheels to extend battery life, but you didn't mention such a control, so I'm guessing you do not have the option to turn that power off? Either way, thanks again for the great review!
Good review. Never considered the Toro because it wasn't available when I decided to get out of gas powered lawn care equipment. As things broke down, I bought electric. Keeping it in one family / company with a good rep and great reviews makes life simpler. If Toro was a better option back then, I would probably have considered it. Oh well.
Mowers: I own the Ego and its a couple of years old. No issues to speak of. I don't mow rocks, concrete or stumps so the blade is fine. I recognized the issue with removing and reinstalling the bag so I don't reach between the push bar rather, under it and no issue. Muscle memory. My yard is small enough that the one battery (56v 7.5) will do the front and back, then power the weed whacker for all its glory and I then clean up with the leaf blower before putting the one battery back on the charger. I will occasionally help out a neighbor or two so the extra batteries from the other products come in handy though the recharge time is very quick. Additionally, I can use the batteries in the snow blower as well as discharge them through the power pack (which serves as a recharger too). The small handheld leaf blower (I have the back pack model as well), died shortly after purchase and was replaced without issue through their warranty service department. Pick a brand you can live with and rock on. Toro's advantages don't hurt my Ego either.
Electric movers are convenient but the cost of the batteries is a game breaker! The toro gas powered is a great product i have owned several toros and they have been the most reliable i have ever owned including Honda! The best reliable feature is the power drive transmission and i plan to buy another with the Briggs & Stratton engine also very reliable
Blade: I usually use my lawn mower to cut grass and not concrete. So, the softer blade on the Ego works great for what it was meant for.
Frame: Steel corrodes, plastic doesn't. So, the plastic on the Ego works great for me.
Until you hit a pebble or small rock that cracks your plastic. There is a reason why mower decks are steel. Also, he said the Ego cuts well but if you hit something the blade could/will bend vs a more ridged blade.
The battery is going to die long before the deck corrodes, and they cost half as much as the entire mower to replace. If you want longevity, stick with a gas mower. All these electrics are disposable.
@@plmn93 I wonder what the actual cost difference is. A battery is what $100 to replace every 3-4 years. How much is the cost of gas, oil, filters, And spark plugs over that time? Granted I think the gas is cheaper on purchase
@@plmn93 Wrong. The batteries are disposable. The machines are plastic and will last forever.
@@djayt1215 batteries cost $350. I use less than $30 per year on gas, plugs filters and oil. Plus the gas mower costs less to start and performs better. Electric mowers have advantages, cost is not one.
If you hit a stump you want the blade to shatter rather than bend the crank shaft.
For someone who said they weren’t gonna rag on the Ego you sure did. Sounds like you’re a toro fan boy
Toro doesn’t make all components and Ego do have a steel deck so I think your review is a bit of a joke.
I just bought an Ego and so far I love it. 2 yrs ago we bought a huge John Deer mower, og well my husband is big and lazy so I bought Ego for me so I can cut my grass. I have no problem with it.
The Toro Mower you show at 3:30 has a cast ALUMINUM deck, not a steel deck like the mower you're reviewing or the lower end Toro Recycler mowers. That's why those decks last for 20+ years.
Good catch. I missed that when watching. I have several 2 cycle Lawnboys with both cast aluminum and cast magnesium decks as well as a few with stamped steel. The steel ones, though decades newer are rusting. The cast decks are like new save for the paint and decals. A couple are older than me and still run great. I'm 53.
To be fair, you should have reviewed the Toro against the current eGo mower which addressees many of your complainants and is now a much better mower than the Toro.
The ego is a toy the toro is the 22 recycler with a electric mower not even a comparison same transmission same blade, same everything
@@longwalkoffshortpeer having not heard a response back from you in 7 months. Friends and i all picked up the EGO and are extremely happy with it. It's hardly a toy but a competent grass muncher.
Looks like you hurt a lot of EGO's with this review. After watching countless comparison video's, I'm going with Toro. Thanks in part to you!
Review was too biased. I do love the personal pace feature of the toro. (I have a gas powered one) and having a dial on the ego is just stupid. Wash out port also a great feature on the Toro.
But to claim tried and true method to set the mowing height on the Toro is better? Toro is awful. Having to set each wheel (no doubt clumped up with dirt and grass) separately and guess the direction and match all 4. The review is correct, you never adjust it after that first time.
But the reason you never adjust it is because it's a pain to do so. So you never want to again. It's tried and awful. Really terrible. But you don't do it often.
So I don't think either mower is better than the other at everything. It would be nice to see a review that admitted that the Ego is better at some things.. comparable at some and the Toro wins at others and possibly overall.
Toro has a slow battery charger which should have been mentioned.
It likely makes 0 difference since people only mow once a week and we're taking hours difference not days, but it would make the review seem less biased if it were mentioned.
You should mow short in the Spring to help control weeds and then increasingly longer as the Summer wears on to conserve water. Height adjustment is a thing, and I hate it on my Toro 20092... just a pain. Mowing is already a pain, so I don't need something to get me cursing before I even start the hard part.
@@bighgnoz5189 Exactly I love how he somehow found a reason why being able to adjust the deck height with a single lever is a bad thing. What a joke.
Prop the “one lever release” push handle on the Ego forward out of the bags way to remove the bag. The Toro, you have to fuddle with each side to prop the push handle forward. Ego for the win there for me in that category. It’s downright cumbersome regardless of any mower to pull a leaf and grass catcher bag up between and through the push handles.
Nice to here you liked something other than the EGO. The Toro looks a little more like a lawnmower.
I just watched your previous video about the e-go, and funny how it went from almost perfect after 6 months to I'm gonna leave it as a backup :-) e.g. leaves bag wasn't an issue and now it was so hard to put it in place and remove, having the cut height handle was one highlighted feature , now now minimized. Entertaining videos though.
Well really loved my iphone 4 also but when I got my new iphone it let me noticed things that could have been improved. I really don't like to be a negative channel and I do think the Ego is a great product but I now prefer the Toro.
Fernando you are correct. He was a joke in reviewing
Planning to buy a toro in a few moment.. what is the ideal height to set the mower for the new grass? Thanks!
Great video! I think both are great mowers but some of the features I like better on the Toro!
I was between the Ego and Toro last year when I moved into a new house. It came down to the Toro personal pace drive and the toro being capable of a half inch minimum cut height vs. an inch for the Ego - I inherited a very well kept bermuda lawn from the previous home owner and that half inch cut looks soooo good right now while its green but not growing too fast. Very happy with the Toro.
Glad to hear.
All you have to do is move the handle up out of the way to remove the bag on The Ego to avoid spilling.
Yeah that was kind of my point. It’s just a little easier on the Toro. I have a new Ego coming and I will do a review of the new model.
Unbox Warehouse Yes, please, do a new review addressing all critics here. Compare performance but also eases to use. You talked about moving the Ego without the blades
Unbox Warehouse cont.: moving them around without the blades functioning. Please, compare the weight. These factors are important for people like me that like mowing but need light weight tools.
My God, how much did Toro pay you....lol
A FREE electric and a FREE Zero Turn mower! Pretty SWEET!
I got mine for $485 I think...I got 10% off for Military discount....she wasn't cheap
I had a greenworks 21 inch...the Torro is 22 inch cut and it's noticeable difference, the run time is longer in the Torro, the wheels are bigger, the quality is much higher overall...but aye I had to pay that extra 100...plus u get a steel deck and wash port!
I thought the greenworks was sweet till I went and got the Torro and had them at the house at the same time!!!
Hahaha, yeah he was polishing toro's junk! If you don't want to be a trusted reviewer..... Do what he just did.
@@cvee2614 Toro is one of the best mowers you can get I don't know what kind of drugs you're using but before you judge anything make sure your weed eater brand s*** Cuts Like A 9-iron Toro has been around for years and years I don't give a s*** what you say that's all I own is toro and it's the best f****** mower you can get go cry to your mommy
I purchased my Toro from Home Depot on sale for $299 😊
I love that toro kept the same look as it's gas models, not a big fan of the plastic futuristic look.
Yea it's nice having to adjust all 4 wheels to change cutting height huh? lol
It's not the same "look", it's the same mower with a different power plant.
Wow, did not know the history behind Toro. I don’t own a Toro though but after watching this video I’m sold my next mower will be Toro.
I used their drive belt for my ExMark 30 inch commercial with Kawasaki FJ180V though 😊
Awesome. Glad I could provide some info!
Think twice. then think twice again. Then take a month and walk a lot. Then trust me - forget about Toro. They are only okay but not what they used to be.
Now if Honda had a new battery mower I'd be all ears...
I wish you would show the cutting job of each mower in thick grass.
Absolutely! So many of these videos show someone mowing a thin, sparsely populated lawn. What good does that do to demonstrate the mower's ability? More importantly, if your lawn looks like that don't waste your money on a good mower because it won't make it look any better than a cheap box store mower!
@@mellowjammer Theres a video where they run both in really tall grassh and both die about 10 feet in. Which is about right my first gen struggles against denser taller grass. You have to mow every week, regardess of which one you get, except for gas.
The Toros is a Recycler where they removed the gas engine and installed the electric motor. Part numbers for the deck parts are the same. The Ego was designed from the ground up to be electric. There is advantages and disadvantages to both ways. Parts availability for the Toro should never be a problem. If Ego would ever go out of business that would be all she wrote.
Love our ego mower, it works and keeps working after 4 years now and same batt.
Accurate honest review. I am an Ego owner where the self propel drive unit that had given out on three different Ego self propelled mowers. One not even a year old the second a replacement from EGO. I sure hope they solved the drive issue in their new model.
Ego uses a separate motor to drive the wheels toro uses what they have used for years in gas counterparts slip belt drive The toro is the gas version but with a electric drive.
thanks so much, I have been spending so much time looking online for the best mower. Your video made it so easy to decide what I wanted,. Thanks again. I have a Toro gas and I will get a Toro cordless
Thanks for this great review! I made my decision and go for the 60 Volt Toro!
Check the Toro site. It is a game of specmanship that Toro is playing. It is like calling automobile 12 Volt batteries, 14 volt. Indeed they are 14, when fully charged. Nominally 12 volt. The 56 volt and 60 Volt are the same voltage. What counts is the energy these batteries hold>>>>>> Voltage x Ampere-Hour= Watt- Hour. So even taking Toro’s inflated (marketing) numbers, the EGO 7.5 Ah battery is 420 Watt-Hour, versus Toro’s 324 Watt-Hour. Toward the end of these comments read a detailed, excellent, analysis of @Scott Kolaya.
@@xxycom8963 volts mean shit, in this application hench why all commercial grade electric equipment is still using 36volt as where people that know shit get pulled in by 80v 20v bs marketing shit. amp hours is what matter amount of energy that the cells can hold and drain.
Toro did it right they took the gas recycler and put a electric motor on it. Way more import to have a mower that has the cut quality and reliability (same transmission same blade same deck....
I've tried both mowers and bought the Toro.. The Ego is just to light and bounces around on the lawn thus leaving an uneven cut which is a deal breaker.
Ego has updated to a new charge display which is now a 5 led display vs the changing colors on the old style. I think it is now more comparable to the Toro. I used a Toro personal pace for many years and found I was not a big fan. I moved to their commercial 21 in and haven’t looked back. I would like to try the new gen 3 Ego sometime. I hope ego updates their steel deck mower to a gen 3.
I’ll stick with my ego
Toro doesn’t have enough WOW factor to rush out to buy it
What about the new e-go double blade?
@@jnslzr if it wasn't $700 after taxes, I'd go for the upgrade!
I had a greenworks absolutely loved it for my first electric mower, kept contemplating on an EGO, but I saw the design of the Torro, read up on it, watched some videos, thank you for yours, went to Home Depot to try the Ego and they had the Torro in stock ...no brainier...night and day over greenworks 21 inch 60 Volt...Torro is just so sweet!!!? WOW
Does the personal pace run off the blade motor or it's own individual one? If it does, isn't it sucking more power, meaning you're stealing blade speed? Correct me if I'm wrong
It looks like their same old system, which is a major problem... it's a terrible, stupid system that will cause you problems eventually. Toro isn't what they used to be, and their parts supply chain is total hit or miss... I'm done with them
EGO lost me at PLASTIC. I'm getting the TORO. Thank you for saving me time and aggravation.
After watching this review I'm glad I got the new EGO mower and not the Toro.
The flexible blade on the Ego shouldn't matter because your cutting grass. Plus the flexibility might be a plus in case you do hit something solid it won't break the shaft.
I have hit my tree roots and curb for over 20 years , at least once per year, and never broke a blade..ding it yes. But maybe I damaged the motor shaft. Big issue , can Ego plastic body hold up? I proved you can crack a steel deck-Toro.
Well, a stiff deck and blade is considered a definite plus with any mower, as it maintains height accuracy.
Evidently the exit ramp on the Toro is so steep it doesn't feed lawn clippings into the bag as well - a real design flaw. The next up-model in Ego is the Select-cut with the double blades - superior cut to all of them, and a high-lift blade for bagging. Kind of wins out over the others this way. Plus Toro is known to really eat batteries - run time isn't nearly what they advertise. If you get the Toro line get lots of batteries.
I need a snow machine too and was going to get both in one of the brands, Toro, Greenworks, or Ego. Seems the latter wins out with their higher end mowers, and they have the best snow blower too - a new steel-auger model that really performs.
Just bought a half-acre property and can't wait to move.
I have no experience with Ego, and I really like the Toro (and my previous gas-powered Recycler), but I have to admit this comparison seems biased toward the Toro.
Ego has changed their batteries to have a fuel gage now.
Great video. In my lawn care work, I can't use personal pace as I have several lawns with 15 degree slopes and I need a mower that actually propels itself .. and pulls me .. I can't lean into the handle on hills. Cheers ...
So a couple things:
- Ego is a battery tech company. Mowers were proof of concept. Not all batteries are made equal. (At roughly 700+ charges on my batteries. No end in site.)
- Egos newer 7.5a have a 5 bar ring system for on the battery light so you know battery %.
- The blades I am not sure, but would assume it's an engineering aspect to max rpm.
- I have never used a self propelled but did have my self propelled 1st gen for over 2000 mows. And only retired it cause a clip broke and I didn't want to piss around w it.
Clearly I'm an advocate.
I might point out even though I’m late to the party, the toro markets 60v but that’s in its maximum state when it gets to working load it’s 54 just like the ego.
I used to buy used Toro’s for my landscaping company, they could handle anything and easy to get up and running with Briggs & Stratton engines. The quality is still there but assembly is an issue. The quality is hit and miss.
During COVID-19 getting them across the border has become an issue too... battery is unproven but companies like Husqvarna and Toro are manufacturing them now.
I still like a Husqvarna mower with a Honda engine though
I liked mine. Steel deck, the power throttle is awesome! But it only worked great the first time. Now the right rear wheel drive is making a grinding noise & its going in for service tomorrow. Didn't even get to use it twice. Still hoping it works out, its a great mower from my first experience with it.
At least you can take it in for service. Had you bought EGO, you'd have to send it away for 4-6 weeks. Hopefully it's back to you soon.
I’ve tried both the ego and toro mower, and to me the Toro wins easily. It feels like a regular mower with the steel body. The ego is mostly plastic, with some aluminum. Ego ships with an inferior blade. Why they do this and undermine the cut is a mystery. Like a sports car with crap tires.
The self pace speed on the Toro is a no brainer, with the ego you adjust the speed and have to adapt your pace to it.
Ego wins in one feature, the height adjustment. Toro should use this feature. Maybe it’s patented?
I did my first cut with my new Toro 22” recycler 60v, 6ah battery today. Cut was on par with my 5 year old Toro gas mower. I know the gas mower will do better if the grass is really long, but your only supposed to cut 1/3 at a time anyways. Had two bars left on the battery after mowing my 3500sf lawn.😊
I really thought this was going to be an unbiased video, but just like everyone else I feel there is a biased opinion in this comparison.
Yes, TORO...a no brainer!! BTW - it might be worth mentioning that the cables going up the TORO handle carry no electricity, they are strictly mechanical cables. One cable operates the drive mechanism and the other operates the start / stop / brake switch on the motor just like a gasoline engine model.
Nice review. I have a 2009 Toro Recycler gas engine just like this with electric start. LOVE the Personal Pace system. Didn’t know they were making a battery version now. Have replaced some parts over the years on mine but as you say build quality seems good overall. I would probably strongly consider this over the Ego or others with plastic decks. My sister has a GreenWorks, likes it a lot but it has two small blades and doesn’t seem sturdy. Using a lawn service most of the time now but I may need to go shopping!!
Love my ego lawnmower.
I’ll never go back to gas again
. I'm guessing that the reason that the EGO blade is thinner is: Its rigidity has nothing to do with cutting, so it can be lighter. A heavier blade would also put more strain on the motor & compromise efficiency.
The blade on a gas mower acts as a flywheel for the motor (Ever try to start a lawn mower with no blade on it?), so it must have a certain amount of weight for the engine to run - not a necessary consideration with an electric motor.
So, all in all - the thinner, lighter blade on the EGO strikes me as good design. But then, I'm just guessing.
Very useful review. Toro is the one for me. Thanks.
Good choice!
Funny how I just watched the EGO VS Riobi and he applaud the EGO yet all of a sudden the bad on the EGO is such a pain. Bitched about the wires on the Riobi yet says Toro was keeping it old school. Toro is more robust, I get it but it when your prompted to give them accolades when you're reviewing their brand.
Seems biased but I will agree on the bag part for the ego. Even of the gen 3 the cross bar still blocks the bag and my clippings spill out when I remove the bag.
Lol. It’s biased because I really enjoy this mower. Love my ego also though but it broke.
Yeah I'm glad I got an Ego Power mower. Mine works great. My dad got a Toro and returned it the next day because he couldn't mow his whole yard without charging it several times.
Great video buddy! I have been wondering about this. Thank you
The replacement battery on the Toro is also crazy. Don't get me wrong, I like Toro, but this is such an ad for Toro I can't imagine ANYONE finding it helpful. Don't forget other brands like Ryobi, if you're interested. I would purchase a gas Toro, but this one is a little crazy for how much competition is out there with proven ELECTRIC track records.
Great video I learn a lot from you, thank you ❤❤❤
You know you can bend the handle forward, as if you're storing it, to remove the bag right🤔
I find it funny that people complain about the Toro bias but literally the ego fanboys go from video to video to defend their fan boydom
This is very true.
Hmmm... not true says I
Most of the E-Go visitors are probably like me, and considering a lawn mower after having such good results from their other tools (and yeah, having a bank of E-Go batteries). It's not fan boydom, trust me. I have no patience for crap tools, and the engineering of E-Go tools has consistently put a smile on my face. It's truly intelligent, great stuff. I have yet to be disappointed, and I have a string trimmer, leaf blower, chain saw, pole saw (with the extension kit they say you shouldn't use but which works amazingly well), hedge trimmer and... well, I guess that's it. All bought within three years or so, because they provided SUCH good performance and simplicity. My son and wife actually enjoy using them - they could never figure out the nuances of a 2-stroke motor.
I am replacing a Toro mower that was good but not great - the best part was the B&S motor, but the engineering decisions left me angrily scratching my head and cursing at the wind. Latest episode was just today with their ridiculously stupid "Personal Pace" engineering and broken plastic parts. But that's just the tip of the iceberg... the last thing I want right now is another Toro product.
There's clearly a difference between fanboys and just people presenting all the facts left out of the video that others have considered when making their choices. Is it fanboy to point out that @Unbox Warehouse fell for Toro's marketing of its 60V battery when you read the fine print and find out "Disclaimer
*Battery manufacturer rating = 60V maximum & 54V typical usage." What type of reputable company does that? Then you do your research and find out the Toro is actually a lower voltage because they use cheaper batteries with higher internal resistance and you can't charge them as fast either because of their cheaper brick style battery packs and higher resistance causing them to heat up more.
The Toro might be better... but some of your arguments are so flimsy. I mean come on, can't lift the bag out? You flip the lever and the whole handle is out of the way. Blade flimsy... a lighter blade will spin up faster and use less battery power. No cut comparison?
The toro looks good but this comparison is just whining about the Ego no matter how much you say you aren't.
The other huge benefit of the Ego is the system of battery operated tools, not even mentioned.
I understand your concerns and sorry I didn’t make a better comparison. I notice no difference with cut quality but I have never been a huge stickler on that. All lawn mowers from major brands cut the grass well. I was pointing out reasons why I like the design if the Toro. Both are awesome lawn mowers and I still have both but honestly I have not used the Ego since I got the Toro. I also have a toro weed eater and blower now and they are all awesome pieces of equipment. It’s hard to explain unless you use both but the Toro stuff feels stronger and less flimsy on all the products. But this is only my opinion. You can’t go wrong with either brand.
Product placement has been detected! :)
Toro looks like 'old school', just replaced gas with electric motor, same wires all around and both of them are 60v when fully charged (just Toro marketed this different)
EGO is NOT 60V.
EGO has 14 cells in series, and most other 60V things have 15 cells in series. That's why EGO says 56V.
So, nominal voltage is 51.4V (3.6V x 14) for EGO and 54V (3.6V x 15) for others.
Toro definitely needs a charger equal or faster than ego. Who wants to wait 3 hours to finish there lawn if the battery dies just short of getting the yard done?
People who are smart enough to buy another battery 😂😂
what's the model number of the Toro you used? I looked on their site and it has way to many for me to decide. But I liked the differences that were important to me ....THE TORO.
Great video... I'm loving my Toro 🤗
I've owned a steel deck mower that rusted out. I own a plastic deck Honda and have no regrets.
Do a crash test I bet you your total the toro . It's cool new technology just like vehicles they don't come and steal like the way they used to in the 60s and 70s. I like new technology and futuristic look and feel and I also like how light it is and definitely with whatever battery the ego battery lasts much longer and it charges very fast. How long does it take the Toro to charge 3 hours
80 percent of the comments here are Ego employees saying “old vs new, unfair” or claiming bias. Ego still sells the old mowers so get them to only sell the 3 newer ones including the steel deck Ego?
Yeah people are being pretty harsh. I
Will got a new ego mower and see what the hype is about.
@@UnboxWarehouse As a regular consumer, I don't care if it's Kobalt, Ego, Toro, Greenworks, Makita, etc . I like the head to head for the pros and cons so when I see a multitude of pro Ego comments on reviews favorable to other cordless mowers, it gives me pause. What do they have to loose or hide? Are regular consumers who have not used both really standing up for Ego because they have tried all the variants the reviewer has or is there some social media marketing going on? Just let the data speak for itself. This video pointed out enough pros and cons for BOTH the Ego and Toro for me. Thanks
Bullshit I am retired and have no association with EGO in fact I worked for Toro years ago. I have the new EGO model and it is far superior to my old Toro gaser.
@@justabob22 That"s a funny replay. A person working for a company would not refer to a product so generically? That would be like a Ford employee telling somebody they drive a Ford SUV... They would give a make and model and possibly year and package option.
As far as any electric mower goes... I would never say they "superior" to a similar priced gas mower. A professional RedMax is around $550. I got one on the advice of my best friend who is a landscaper. He only uses RedMax trimmers and walk mowers. He has some that he bough new 7 years ago. These are used everyday for hours at a time (for smaller years or fenced in places his dixie cant get to). I've had mine for 5 years. I change the oil, spark plug and put gas in it. I'd bet I will have this till I die. You will need a new battery after 5 years or so and that will cost as much as a good gas mower.
Yes, I've been waiting for this head-to-head comparison! What size yard do you have? The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger yet is because of the handful of reviews that claim that weren't even able to mow half of the 1/4 acre lot before the battery died. Toro claims a 1/4 acre lot for the 6 AH battery and a 1/3 acre lot for the 7.5 AH battery. I have 7500 sq ft. of grass to mow. Torn between the 6 AH and the 7.5 AH.
I should also mention that I have the original EGO LM2000. Looking to upgrade to something self-propelled and slightly bigger than the 20" I currently have.
I have a pretty large yard. I would say easily a quarter acre. If the grass is not too tall I can finish but is has died on me prior to finishing if the grass is taller but this is not a problem for me because I just throw the battery in the charger and weed eat for a few minutes and it’s good to go.
@@UnboxWarehouse Perfect, thank you so much for the quick reply!
I think mowing time will also vary depending upon the type and thickness of your lawn. A lush, thick lawn will require more energy to cut than a thin, dry, crappy lawn which is what you see in a lot of these videos. The run time to cut healthy thick grass (especially if mulching) will probably be reduced.
$350 dollars for a battery? Thats over 100 gallons of gasoline or half way to the top of the line honda mower that will last 20 years. The pricing is on the ridiculous end.
This looks like an older ego model. I thought the new ones also had personal pace gearing now, as well as a second blade option. I had hoped to see something about cut quality. My ego is 2 years old and leaves quite a few uncut stragglers if the grass is a little too long.
I'm getting the Toro electric lawnmower.
Haha I still have to adjust every wheel on Toro individually! That is so stupid and no thank you. My last mower before my ego was a Toro superbagger. I cut my 1/4 acre land and was always having problems with it. 2 years in the handle literally snapped in half because of the massive holes they drilled in it for cable management. Such crap!!
OH MY GOD!!! A time tested, not over engineered system? How dare they! I guess people just don't care about simplicity anymore. God forbid a company keep something alive that works and rarely ever has an issue. Nope, they rather buy a widget that does "cool" stuff but completely forget about the main function of the widget.
@@nhbountyhunter I am guessing you don't even own an ego electric mower. Otherwise you would understand.
@@nhbountyhunter I'm curious; exactly what would you call "personal pace"? And I guess you consider broken handles (definitely NOT over-engineered, but juuuuust right) a good thing.
EGO has better design in my opinion and I haven't ever had an issue with mine in 7 years. I do adjust cut height for my backyard grass and hated the 4 different adjustments on my old mower. I like the LED headlights on my EGO for cutting grass at dusk. EGO folds up easier with one lever and more compact which is important in my garage. EGO has better runtime and battery at same price point. I haven't had issue with poly deck even after hitting rocks and branches. Use EGO high lift blade. I will be looking at EGO 3rd generation with select cut two blade system and other improvements. I also like driving my mower back to the garage and turning off blade when going over driveway and gravel while maintaining drive. My gas toro had mechanical issues with wheel bearings and one of the height adjusters. Ford has been around forever, but I would prefer a Tesla.
I adjust my cut also depending on the season, cut lower in the spring and fall and cut longer in the summer. The plastic deck was a plus for me spray it with nonstick cooking spray and grass cleans off pretty quick.
I had no issues with my old metal deck mower but cheaper metals obviously will not last. I don't necessarily know what metals each deck is made of. So plastic was an easy choice.
Strange world we live in. I don't know if the average person could set a reel or not, but 5 years ago, I bought a scotts classic 20 inch. I've sharpened it 3 times (which takes about 10 minutes with lapping compound and a cordless drill) and the only thing it doesn't do is mulch (i know people will be surprised to learn this, but if you get trash on your hard, like leaves - they make a thing called a rake that picks it up pretty well).
At this point, it looks like the scotts mower could last 20 years.
$129. Using a battery or gas mower now (still have a honda harmony to mulch leaves in the fall - sometimes) seems dopey - the scotts classic is faster, it's quiet, it's lighter and it just works all the time.
it can also mow wet grass or literally in the rain without issue. cut quality is the same.
Yes the deck on the Toro is heavier, exactly what I don't want. . I have one now and I wish I hadn't bought it. I have a bad back and hip. the Toro weights 80 pounds. It's self propelled but hard to maneuver around trees and landscape. if you are young and strong okay' but not for me or anyone with my problems. Kinda sounds like a Toro salesman.
Also if the battery dies on the Toro, you have to push it because the self-propel only works with the blade spinning. On the EGO, if the battery dies while mowing, you can run the self-propel independently and usually still get the mower back to the garage because the self-propel pulls way less current and won't trip the low battery cutoff. On the Toro, you have to push the 80-pound mower, clicky, clackity, clicky, clackity back to the garage. Also, the EGO freewheels much nicer when you're not using the self-propel, so you can choose to not use it if you like and it's not clicking away like the Toro.
I’ve been going back and forth between these lawnmowers and this was so helpful! Thank you:)
Hi Sir, that Toro is not in the same league with the EGO. EGO is just a better mower with power to back it up!!! I just bought it today and put the Toro to the side. Grant it, my Toro was gas powered; however, the power of the EGO almost had me running to keep up with it. Home Depot was full of Toros while all other mowers were sold out. I was able to get the EGO because of the new shipment. Toro you can find on any given day.
How old is your Ego? Are you comparing a new model Toro with an old Ego?
What is the difference in the cost of the two?
Thanks for making it clear that I can’t/won’t give up my Honda anytime soon. I need self drive on my hill yard. Personal pace completely inferior to Honda drive. Ego looks completely unworkable. Honda mulch’s better than old Toro. Honda shreds fall leaves much better too. Electric would be good, but Honda gas mileage way superior to Toro gas. These electrics are not dazzling me.
Personal pace and consumer grade Honda drive work the same way. Have to go "commercial" to get the hydrostatic drive in a Honda.
HOW DO THEY CUT ?!!!! That is what a lawn MOWER is about !!
I'm sorry, but this is a huge ad for Toro. Some of your "advantages" are actually corner cutting crap. The bag holder, the EGO is way better just as one example. I think you actually sold me on the Ego (a different version but still EGO >>> Toro)
Well I value you opinion but I now have two Broken Ego mowers and my toro still works great. I own both and use the toro more. But I agree that I really liked my ego when it worked but the cool features made it fragile. Cutting corners means simple. Simple means reliable. IMO.
@@UnboxWarehouse cutting corners in manufacturing means saving a penny and leaving the customer with a product prone to easily breaking or failing
Not sure what you did wrong with your ego but the toro just fails on too many levels until you hit the 30” toro then they finally care
Well I respect you opinion but I no longer have a working ego mower so I am bias.
Go look at the ego video I made and look at all the comments. Everybody has problems.
@@UnboxWarehouse LULZ, read the comments on this video.
Any idea how loud these two are? I wonder if one can listen to podcast, book on tape or radio while doing the Lawn Mowing duties. Thank you for any reply.
I use my AirPods and can barely hear the mower. Very peaceful.
Both mowers are quiet enough to listen to podcasts while mowing with standard earbuds. I'm surprised Unbox Warehouse didn't mention the sound between the two. The standard EGO blade is quieter than the Toro. The high lift EGO blade (if you have grass that doesn't stand up on its own very well and needs that extra suction) is a little louder but still a little bit quieter than the Toro due to the more sound-absorbing plastic body of the EGO he is using. EGO also has a steel deck version if that's important to you. Both are orders of magnitude quieter than a gas mower. They both sound like you're pushing around a box fan. You can mow at just about any time of the day because your neighbors won't hear you. I mow much more often now because as Unbox Warehouse puts it, it's very peaceful.