Yep, it really frustrates me when people do these "there's a cheating problem" videos. It just advertises what's available. It's self-destructive of the community for content. Obviously the cheaters are at fault, but if you want less of them, don't give them the time of day.
I think asmongold is the only kind of react content that makes you go watch the original, cause 90% of the time he just talks about wow anyways and doesnt seem to know the first thing about osrs
Hi! Absolute boomer pker here, having started playing at RS2 launch back in 2004. I think the absolute core issue will always be that modern itemization and being able to actually, literally secure a kill 100-0 in a combo outside of things like gmaul rushing does a good bit to: A)Further incentivize cheating, since executing a perfect combo that just kills somebody gives a small window for cheat detection B)Deter new pkers due to the incredible wealth of required game knowledge at this point. I believe in a lot of ways modern pking does offer a great place for skill expression. I just believe, rather firmly, that the antiquated meta of early RS2 pking was healthier because it was literally just a contest of endurance and resource management most the time.
Precisely why I stopped singles PKing, just seemed like a good way to throw away gold for no reason. People say 'Well if they removed custom clients the game would deny many would stop playing' - well then it's not as strong of a game as those same people think it is.
A lot of the time they aren't even killing other pkers. There's a lot of very lucrative activities in the wilderness so a lot of 'normal' players go out there also. I'm an Ironman and I literally can't even get loot if I PK someone, but I'm forced to deal with these cheaters also and it's insufferable
It is sad how people think there is no wrong doing here, they cheat and steal and sell it for real money and think this is fine. Dear god we lost our moral compass a long time ago. Not just gaming but this crap is real life.
To share my rs experience, about a year ago I finally completed my first account-a maxed 75 atk pure. Then pvpers (mostly at revenants) slowly disappeared and now they are pretty gone. It has kind of sucked that as I first begin/began to get decent at pking after playing for years there's no one left to fight.
Try rsps for pking maybe, or check different areas like chaos altar, chaos temple, the mini wildly bosses have lots of lower levels farming them but you need the wildly dairy to access the single plus versions. Wildly has definitely died a lot and revs when it was multi was better. I think half the revs should be multi or they should add a multi section with more monsters like it was in the past. Maybe better drop rates or put the rev boss in its own area permanently with changed loot and spawn times etc. drawing more players to the boss and area.
Also check out BH on ur 75 attack you can msb to ags Gmaul or elder Gmaul and smite and ko high riskers with relatively low risk. Especially if you use only ags and msb, you can stack 80+ and risk an msb in BH. So OP for the cost.
@@Infiltrator15z9 the bots haven't paid for subs with irl money in a long time. The soul wars bots, for example, each make over 100 million gp a day and there are hundreds of them spread out between multiple worlds. If you crash their games and watch them long enough you'll see lv 126 bots with all maxed 99's and over 2 million zeal score. The memberships are all paid with gp for bonds. I personally believe all of the bots come from the Soul Wars bot farms so that should probably be looked into more closely.
@@lukea3072Jagex 100% makes profit from bots. Bots increases bond demand and thus the value of a bond. Since the price of buying a bond with real money never changes people will buy more bonds depending on how much gp they can sell them for.
@@lukea3072 I'll never understand how people think this way...How do all of those thousands of bots not directly benefit jagex by driving up the demand for bonds? Where do you think the bond actually comes from lol
It is. Abyss/alex has always been involved in the black market since pre eoc. He was known for making single teams (ambition, 2ez, etc) and then hacking the members and selling their gold. Why don’t you think most other big streamers who are from back in those days don’t vibe with him? Especially the pkers? They’ve known of him for over a decade, but they know the past.
Its crazy to me that Jagex can release a ton of updates weekly.. but cant work on some anti-cheat or something to combat this stuff.. sadly even risk fighting is cooked cuz of these clients..
Rewarding PvP will always garner cheaters, add a trade economy and it will also add people who cheat for IRL profit. Same issue with Escape from tarkov.
You wanna fix the issue? Make wild 2x xp in 1 wild and 3x in multi. Add all monsters and caves with monsters for slayer and everything with 5x drop rate. Make all skills in wild too. Then make it 1m in inventory to even jump the ditch to get into the wild. Put experiments monsters in lvl 1 edge. Make it rewarding to risk your shit. Then start getting rid of ahk people. First bring people back. Or just make pvp worlds 2x exp for any skill trained but you need 1m in inventory to get the xp. It’s really simple shit.
Good awareness video. I used to love pking with some friends or even solo, but I noticed there were too many AHKers and it just wasn't fun anymore. The wilderness is a great part of runescape but knowing you're not even fighting real people kills the fun of. Let's hope something will be done about this.
Fucking blows to know this is happening to the game. Jagex should really tackle these problems instead of adding another loot pinhata to the wildy in order to try to "revive it", fix this shit and then we can talk. Huge video Abyss, I'm not really a guy that comments a lot on videos, but doing this so the algorythm can pick up the pace so it get's more attention.
The amount of clienting in pvp makes it sad to even just veng pk. Not even bridding. Anti-pking has gone the same way. Any time I go do wildy pvm stuff, 99% of the pkers that hit me, are clienters. I'm not gonna call myself the best anti-pker or veng pker by far. But I've been part of the osrs pvp community for over 20 years. I know my way around fighting the majority of legitimate pkers.
Tbh we played RuneScape before clients and we use to get ban for using clients like swift kit and was against rules so why not just idk get rid of it? Seems like the issue isn’t going anywhere if you don’t ditch the client and have to get use to actually learning the game and skills without it
Wow bro. My account is about ready to pk. After seeing this there's no point. I'm not even gonna try. That's ridiculous. Been playing for months getting ready to pk. I see why alot of creators don't pk anymore.
It will only be fixed if they go ahead with their client with the plugins and only allow the plugins to be used that are verified etc. Just not sure how the devs can develop them without testing etc?
Jagex could fix PvP if they added some actual relevant content into wildnersess. But hcim killed wildy all the good loots has been spread around the osrs world. Even in leagues nobody picks wildy because it’s sht.
Great vid man, liked and commented for the algorithm. Not sure why some are flaming you in the comments like some unhinged schizo. You do you man! It's just a video game, a hobby, and yet some go berserk lol
What's really thankful is that with the Jagex client and API coming out in the future, RuneLite will most likely shut down once full implementation is added to the API. Retiring the Java Applet is the first step, however what we really need is the Jagex client to be non-applet based, a moddable API with an approval process, and integrity checks to the client regularly. With RuneLite and OSHD being allowed by Jagex, it's hard for them to do integrity checks on clients they don't own. Once it's all in-house, and as the RuneLite team have stated, operational to their standards, then we'll see RuneLite shutdown and cheaters scrambling.
this has been increasingly running thru my mind, everyone who pks in runescape is over the age of 30. we played before clients and ahks were a thing. Everyone who tries to get into pking now eventually runs into this, screams at the computer, bash their keyboard and never pk again. ngl, this is happening in the pure scene a lot aswell.
Thisss... the pure scene used to be a combination of really good pkers and really bad pkers. Now its mostly just good pkers so anyone that tries to get into it gets obliterated and stops
I never really liked the pk. Barely stepped foot in the wilderness, the only reason I went was for the rune ore. I didn’t like the fact that there was so much clicking to PK. For me, I played the game for the economy I liked before it had the grand exchange. You could make a lot of money just buying and reselling stuff. I was 11 when I made my first 32k sale and thought I was rich. Then got scammed out of all my rune armor I bought with it lol. At the time I was crying about it to my mom. She said “lesson learned, don’t trust people on the internet”. Then said if I try hard enough I’ll be able to get it again.
Jagex is capable of detecting and banning more bots/real world traders than they let on, they don’t want to remove them as a chunk of the community would be gone. The game is primarily played by people with less time than ever to train stats or make money. The gold farmers/account trainers keep certain type of players on the game.
Tbh 2x xp rate for all skills done in pvp world would flood it. Just got to risk 1m in inventory. That would bring life to it. It would be the most heart pounding experience for everyone. Pure addiction
@ these people only ahk for big loot bro. Not there exposing themselves all day for 1m loots. This mindset of getting rid of ahk pkers only applies to a hand full of hybrid that tbh already have such a big skill gap on normal players that it ruins the wilderness as is. The regular pker is going to die at the same speed to ahk or Dino,lag, or any of the best brids. We need to get people back to the game. Not make the game fair for the 10 best brids that practiced for 15 years. People didn’t quit rs cause of the ahkers, they quit cause of lack of excitement.
@@Friday_Monday at this point skill gap is so big maybe there needs to be a little more ease of use for new players. Kind of how shooting games have aim assist. It’s impossible to pk now unless you’re very good. 10 years ago anyone could pk and have fun.
Ngl, hot take, the game isnt dying because pvp isnt getting love. The pvp community is hurting itself and making it worse for themselves. They have almost zero people on their side, and most players spite vote down pvp related content as a middle finger to the pvp community. Runelite would need to be banned and no plugins for the cheating to start to die down. But there will always be a way on the black market side of things. The game thrives off the pve related content and jagex sees that. Why spend a ton of resources only less than a 10th of the community participates in?
Because doing chambers or tob or toa on repeat for hundreds of kc, even thousands, will eventually get stale and the only remedy in jagexs mind is injecting u with more bosses to kill over and over. Eventually all pvmers will get tired of killing the same thing over and over. Once you've got a 5-10b bank from all those years of pvming, what else is there to do? Wait for the injection or try pvp which is what got this game famous anyways.
@MindReaderosrs gonna have to site a source other than my ass on why the game got famous. I'm not saying the game is perfect. But apparently, yeah, killing the same stuff end on end building a bank is what players enjoy. Mfrs max accounts dude. Spend months in front of a tree chopping. They aren't going to get bored. And they aren't losing anything other than their time. People still kill old content as well as new content. Pve is a constant growth with new ideas, pvp has a hard plateau gated by skill, and whether you want to cheat or not. Its honestly cope if you seriously think pvp is the back bone to this game. At most it's the 11th finger someone decided not to amputate.
@@MindReaderosrs Sorry dude but the Xionic guy is right. Pker's are now such a small minority community it's not even funny. I have a friend that his sole purpose of playing OSRS is to grind ToA over and over again and never got bored. I can kill Vorkath 3 hours straight with 10 mins break in between for money (cuz that's how I build my bank) over and over again without getting bored. Point is you don't get to generalize the whole OSRS playerbase based on your emotions alone. You can't do it doesn't mean other players can't do the same. Sounds like a YOU issue.
@amirulasyraf9199 I guess if people like punching bags over and over again forever, then cool. I don't think it's a me problem. A lot of the pkers are ogs from 07. There's a lot of new players in the community that play osrs and never even played the original. So I guess I can see why they would like just pvmimg if that's all they've ever known.
I dare not venture into the wilderness with anything more than 200k 🤣 I keep it noted that at some point while braving the wilderness, that I WILL try to run like a coward and die horribly. This video was far scarier than anything I saw on Halloween.
I quit pking and started ironman because of clienters. The only fun I have these days is through LMS and anti pking. Dont forget LMS is 90% bots and quickly gets boring :(
@AbyssTTV I guess I'm just not good enough to know what's impossible. If I get outplayed I just move on, but I don't risk anything but an ags. Not many people would be willing to risk a ban for 10m I don't think.
@@joshtharp5503 No dude its not you whose not good enough, at 4:05 in the video I literally showed my pov against a cheater. On my end it looks like a pretty normal fight but from his POV you can see how much the client really did for him
I had a feeling this would happen ever since videos started coming out about killer bots years back. It was only a matter of time before it got into the common botter's hands. Not sure what could be done at this point unless they can really stay on top of bans
4:05 you spent the first 4 minutes crying about cheaters but once they went into your chat and gave you a sub and showed you how it was done "they were pretty cool" LOLOLOLOL
I'd say the higher level brackets have more cheaters due to the amount of gp you can pk/rwt with. Go to the lower brackets and are there are far less cheaters because you can only risk so much.
@@robertfoster167 this is true, but it’s not a good solution to the problem that nobody pks on mains or deep wildy, also this happens a lot in bh as well
i've been pking since 2006ish as of the last 5 years i don't pk but here and there when im bored and i've really only play a iron. the state of pking is truly sad as fuck and idk if it can be fixed
6:48 I don’t expect you to know Spanish but that Spanish translation is way off when the text translates “this guy is buying our lunch tomorrow” Lol pretty big bias there, all they said was this “the entangle wont stick”. Cheating sucks but people love to demonize people just trying to feed their family, the same thing you’re doing with your content creation, just at a much cushier scale.
He got the translation wrong 100%. But demonizing people just trying to feed their families? I dunno man... Cheating isn't ethical. This comparison is a HUGE stretch, but that's like saying a guy robbing food from a grocery store at gun point is actually a good guy trying to live. Or what about scam callers from india? They'll willingly steal peoples life saving to "feed their families". If its unethical, it's unethical. End of story. Yes it's a video game, but more or less the conclusive scenarios are the same. Someone innocent is being punished for being innocent.
Surely they can detect if a player insta switches 8 ways twice in a row and then disable switching/prayers/eating for a minute etc people will stop using it quickly
Damn! For a moment there i thought you was trying to get people to use/pay for cheating clients 😂 I'm not even a Pker and i feel bad for genuine good pvp players, i want to believe jagex will some how come up with a more permanent fix, at the very least people who do pk deserve fair ground to play, not this shit...😂
You have every right to be pissed about this. Jagex hasn't really done anything about these issues and honestly the player base is moving on to other things and less and less players are up to the challenge of getting skill proficient enough to actually enjoy the pk scene. (myself included) the skill level needed to compete is INSANE when you think about it. This means it's a very exclusive skill set and less people want to get involved where there is so much cheating involved and the competition isn't fair. I hope they do something about this or else we're going to be strictly talking about 'PKING' in Osrs as a thing of the past.
I honestly do not care for PVP in this game because it is just too sweaty and RSI inducing, but I also do not want it to die out cause it is an essential part to the game. I hope Jagex fixes this sooner than later.
i agree , there is also more problems with pking imo , the people i fought in bounty hunter just suck these days , they eat at 95hp and run right after they spec lol , its just not the same.
@@MrAdamz123 where’s the endorsement? Me trying to get it removed, covering every single aspect of the ability to find out what the program is and reporting cheaters constantly for over 2 years and being the only content creator to bring UA-cam awareness and dedicate time to trying to fix the problem? Tinfoil hat wearer go tweet about the election and don’t make assumptions here that u know nothing about
this is what i've been saying for a year and everyone just copes and acts like im the problem so they don't have to face the reality that their game isn't as good as it used to be. its the same thing with the "player count" shills. No one wants to acknowledge that theres at least 1 bot farm of ~100 people on almost every world, not to mention a huge chunk of the player base logging into multiple accounts at once. there's no saving this game, osrs or rs3, because the jagex devs and corporate both are incompetent
Man never have i been more encouraged to not enter the wildy like ive always done since the first time i was scammed back in 2005. Almost like theres no point in engaging with that content. Womp womp pkers
ASMONGOLD THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Great Bald Goat
Heck yeah, he is!
Appreciate your integrity, Abyss!
He's a rat*
asmon commentary is garbage thats why i immediately clicked his link to your original video
This is the best non-advertisement advertisement for clienting I’ve ever seen.
copped the client lets go
@@usernametaken3098same LMAO
Yep, it really frustrates me when people do these "there's a cheating problem" videos. It just advertises what's available. It's self-destructive of the community for content. Obviously the cheaters are at fault, but if you want less of them, don't give them the time of day.
Advertising cheating is kinda weirdge
What is it im trying to find it and I can't its like blocked 😂😂
Those vennies buzzing that they get to eat lunch because they PKed 400m is so sad
Its the sad truth of the Venezuelans, they actually have to depend on gold farming to even get the chance to eat
For me, It is and it isn't. They were extremely toxic about it, and for all we know, did it to someone just like them 😅
Their country, their responsibility
nah they eating cash
This won't be fixed without awareness and pressure on Jagex. Thanks abyss
The venny's saying we eating good cracked me up, funny how they've evolved over time.
In addition to all of this, now they perform raspberry emote instantly when you die
I think asmongold is the only kind of react content that makes you go watch the original, cause 90% of the time he just talks about wow anyways and doesnt seem to know the first thing about osrs
Hi! Absolute boomer pker here, having started playing at RS2 launch back in 2004. I think the absolute core issue will always be that modern itemization and being able to actually, literally secure a kill 100-0 in a combo outside of things like gmaul rushing does a good bit to:
A)Further incentivize cheating, since executing a perfect combo that just kills somebody gives a small window for cheat detection
B)Deter new pkers due to the incredible wealth of required game knowledge at this point.
I believe in a lot of ways modern pking does offer a great place for skill expression. I just believe, rather firmly, that the antiquated meta of early RS2 pking was healthier because it was literally just a contest of endurance and resource management most the time.
There's a really easy fix, remove the wilderness and free trade, I know it's drastic but really think it could solve all these issues
Woah there buddy...
They did that and everyone left, lets not.
They did this almost 20 years ago. It basically caused everyone to stop playing.
Precisely why I stopped singles PKing, just seemed like a good way to throw away gold for no reason. People say 'Well if they removed custom clients the game would deny many would stop playing' - well then it's not as strong of a game as those same people think it is.
I clicked Asmon's video and the clicked off to come watch the OG.
same lol
Cheaters are gonna lose their source of revenue when all the real pkers quit and they're just fighting against each other
A lot of the time they aren't even killing other pkers. There's a lot of very lucrative activities in the wilderness so a lot of 'normal' players go out there also.
I'm an Ironman and I literally can't even get loot if I PK someone, but I'm forced to deal with these cheaters also and it's insufferable
Here because I can’t stand Admin pausing every 20 seconds to give commentary and missing half the video’s points
Dude literally ! Same. Dude drove me nuts lol . If you’re an og RuneScape player you don’t want some dude talking about wow the whole time 😂😂
Asmon isn’t the brightest person honestly, came here after a minute of his video too.
Same
It is sad how people think there is no wrong doing here, they cheat and steal and sell it for real money and think this is fine. Dear god we lost our moral compass a long time ago. Not just gaming but this crap is real life.
To share my rs experience, about a year ago I finally completed my first account-a maxed 75 atk pure. Then pvpers (mostly at revenants) slowly disappeared and now they are pretty gone. It has kind of sucked that as I first begin/began to get decent at pking after playing for years there's no one left to fight.
Try rsps for pking maybe, or check different areas like chaos altar, chaos temple, the mini wildly bosses have lots of lower levels farming them but you need the wildly dairy to access the single plus versions. Wildly has definitely died a lot and revs when it was multi was better. I think half the revs should be multi or they should add a multi section with more monsters like it was in the past. Maybe better drop rates or put the rev boss in its own area permanently with changed loot and spawn times etc. drawing more players to the boss and area.
Also check out BH on ur 75 attack you can msb to ags Gmaul or elder Gmaul and smite and ko high riskers with relatively low risk. Especially if you use only ags and msb, you can stack 80+ and risk an msb in BH. So OP for the cost.
I’m glad Asmon links the videos, so I can come watch the video here first, then go watch the reaction.
Listening to the Vennys on excited they get to eat tonight lmao!
Simple solution Jagex: dont allow people to use external clients or plugins, just ONE client and that is
Ive been saying this for ages but if jagex bans bots + client they will lose like 99% of subs
@@Infiltrator15z9 the bots haven't paid for subs with irl money in a long time. The soul wars bots, for example, each make over 100 million gp a day and there are hundreds of them spread out between multiple worlds. If you crash their games and watch them long enough you'll see lv 126 bots with all maxed 99's and over 2 million zeal score. The memberships are all paid with gp for bonds.
I personally believe all of the bots come from the Soul Wars bot farms so that should probably be looked into more closely.
@@lukea3072Jagex 100% makes profit from bots. Bots increases bond demand and thus the value of a bond. Since the price of buying a bond with real money never changes people will buy more bonds depending on how much gp they can sell them for.
@@lukea3072 I'll never understand how people think this way...How do all of those thousands of bots not directly benefit jagex by driving up the demand for bonds? Where do you think the bond actually comes from lol
@@ImGonza this will happen when they finish the native osrs client. They will then kill rubellite.
Why does this just feel like an ad for the cheat-bot?
Because it is
It is. Abyss/alex has always been involved in the black market since pre eoc. He was known for making single teams (ambition, 2ez, etc) and then hacking the members and selling their gold. Why don’t you think most other big streamers who are from back in those days don’t vibe with him? Especially the pkers? They’ve known of him for over a decade, but they know the past.
everything in this game is being botted/ has scripts only a handful of people get banned there's nothing in the game that's kept its integrity.
i think this video was the nail in the coffin, never seen deep wilderness this dead
Its crazy to me that Jagex can release a ton of updates weekly.. but cant work on some anti-cheat or something to combat this stuff.. sadly even risk fighting is cooked cuz of these clients..
Goat
Rewarding PvP will always garner cheaters, add a trade economy and it will also add people who cheat for IRL profit. Same issue with Escape from tarkov.
Abyss you're awesome thanks for these videos they're very engaging.
Glad you think so!
Much needed video man bravo. Glad someone made this.
Update:
NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED LMFAOOOOOO
love this video but now everyone at lms just screams ahk XD double edge sword I guess.
You wanna fix the issue? Make wild 2x xp in 1 wild and 3x in multi. Add all monsters and caves with monsters for slayer and everything with 5x drop rate. Make all skills in wild too. Then make it 1m in inventory to even jump the ditch to get into the wild. Put experiments monsters in lvl 1 edge. Make it rewarding to risk your shit. Then start getting rid of ahk people. First bring people back. Or just make pvp worlds 2x exp for any skill trained but you need 1m in inventory to get the xp. It’s really simple shit.
Haven’t touched RuneScape in four years. I’m now gonna start playing again.
that spanish translation is mostly wrong
F that. I like pking a few hours a week when I have time, I pay for 4 memberships, put some effort into cleaning this up jagex
Good awareness video. I used to love pking with some friends or even solo, but I noticed there were too many AHKers and it just wasn't fun anymore.
The wilderness is a great part of runescape but knowing you're not even fighting real people kills the fun of.
Let's hope something will be done about this.
At this point pking isn't just fun anymore what's the point if this is what you're going to be up against nowadays.
As someone who hasn't played RuneScape in over 20 years, this video was a trip.
Fucking blows to know this is happening to the game. Jagex should really tackle these problems instead of adding another loot pinhata to the wildy in order to try to "revive it", fix this shit and then we can talk.
Huge video Abyss, I'm not really a guy that comments a lot on videos, but doing this so the algorythm can pick up the pace so it get's more attention.
Biggest pk related video of 2024 easily
Bro said as much as a small McDonald’s DoorDash order with no tip 💀
When bro said echelon of PvP community it made me think of the world of Warcraft guy from South Park
Just started learning osrs, guess I’m not going into the wildy anytime soon
The amount of clienting in pvp makes it sad to even just veng pk. Not even bridding. Anti-pking has gone the same way. Any time I go do wildy pvm stuff, 99% of the pkers that hit me, are clienters. I'm not gonna call myself the best anti-pker or veng pker by far. But I've been part of the osrs pvp community for over 20 years. I know my way around fighting the majority of legitimate pkers.
Tbh we played RuneScape before clients and we use to get ban for using clients like swift kit and was against rules so why not just idk get rid of it? Seems like the issue isn’t going anywhere if you don’t ditch the client and have to get use to actually learning the game and skills without it
Wow bro. My account is about ready to pk. After seeing this there's no point. I'm not even gonna try. That's ridiculous. Been playing for months getting ready to pk. I see why alot of creators don't pk anymore.
had the same experience when I was finishing up a b-glove pure a few years back.
If only jagex knew and made their rng shit to where we just clean them, imagine.
It will only be fixed if they go ahead with their client with the plugins and only allow the plugins to be used that are verified etc. Just not sure how the devs can develop them without testing etc?
Jagex could fix PvP if they added some actual relevant content into wildnersess. But hcim killed wildy all the good loots has been spread around the osrs world. Even in leagues nobody picks wildy because it’s sht.
this rips the entire game open who says they'd stop just at pk'ing , game is fully compromised now.
damn brother next video about Microbot their free plugins? How $0 can turn anyone into a top 0.01% player in RuneScape
Great vid man, liked and commented for the algorithm. Not sure why some are flaming you in the comments like some unhinged schizo. You do you man! It's just a video game, a hobby, and yet some go berserk lol
What's really thankful is that with the Jagex client and API coming out in the future, RuneLite will most likely shut down once full implementation is added to the API. Retiring the Java Applet is the first step, however what we really need is the Jagex client to be non-applet based, a moddable API with an approval process, and integrity checks to the client regularly. With RuneLite and OSHD being allowed by Jagex, it's hard for them to do integrity checks on clients they don't own. Once it's all in-house, and as the RuneLite team have stated, operational to their standards, then we'll see RuneLite shutdown and cheaters scrambling.
This honestly sounds more like an ad than anything...
this has been increasingly running thru my mind, everyone who pks in runescape is over the age of 30. we played before clients and ahks were a thing. Everyone who tries to get into pking now eventually runs into this, screams at the computer, bash their keyboard and never pk again. ngl, this is happening in the pure scene a lot aswell.
Thisss... the pure scene used to be a combination of really good pkers and really bad pkers. Now its mostly just good pkers so anyone that tries to get into it gets obliterated and stops
I never really liked the pk. Barely stepped foot in the wilderness, the only reason I went was for the rune ore.
I didn’t like the fact that there was so much clicking to PK.
For me, I played the game for the economy I liked before it had the grand exchange. You could make a lot of money just buying and reselling stuff. I was 11 when I made my first 32k sale and thought I was rich. Then got scammed out of all my rune armor I bought with it lol.
At the time I was crying about it to my mom. She said “lesson learned, don’t trust people on the internet”. Then said if I try hard enough I’ll be able to get it again.
Removing the PJ timer would fix the issue.
Jagex is capable of detecting and banning more bots/real world traders than they let on, they don’t want to remove them as a chunk of the community would be gone. The game is primarily played by people with less time than ever to train stats or make money. The gold farmers/account trainers keep certain type of players on the game.
its so sad :( I just play LMS now which also sucks
Nice vid, keep shining a 🔦 on these JitBits!!! 👏
Tbh 2x xp rate for all skills done in pvp world would flood it. Just got to risk 1m in inventory. That would bring life to it. It would be the most heart pounding experience for everyone. Pure addiction
Yeah the solution to hackers is giving them a whole lot of people to shit on with a stack of cash each, sure
@ these people only ahk for big loot bro. Not there exposing themselves all day for 1m loots. This mindset of getting rid of ahk pkers only applies to a hand full of hybrid that tbh already have such a big skill gap on normal players that it ruins the wilderness as is. The regular pker is going to die at the same speed to ahk or Dino,lag, or any of the best brids. We need to get people back to the game. Not make the game fair for the 10 best brids that practiced for 15 years. People didn’t quit rs cause of the ahkers, they quit cause of lack of excitement.
@@Friday_Monday at this point skill gap is so big maybe there needs to be a little more ease of use for new players. Kind of how shooting games have aim assist. It’s impossible to pk now unless you’re very good. 10 years ago anyone could pk and have fun.
Ngl, hot take, the game isnt dying because pvp isnt getting love. The pvp community is hurting itself and making it worse for themselves. They have almost zero people on their side, and most players spite vote down pvp related content as a middle finger to the pvp community.
Runelite would need to be banned and no plugins for the cheating to start to die down. But there will always be a way on the black market side of things.
The game thrives off the pve related content and jagex sees that. Why spend a ton of resources only less than a 10th of the community participates in?
Because doing chambers or tob or toa on repeat for hundreds of kc, even thousands, will eventually get stale and the only remedy in jagexs mind is injecting u with more bosses to kill over and over. Eventually all pvmers will get tired of killing the same thing over and over. Once you've got a 5-10b bank from all those years of pvming, what else is there to do? Wait for the injection or try pvp which is what got this game famous anyways.
@MindReaderosrs gonna have to site a source other than my ass on why the game got famous. I'm not saying the game is perfect. But apparently, yeah, killing the same stuff end on end building a bank is what players enjoy. Mfrs max accounts dude. Spend months in front of a tree chopping. They aren't going to get bored. And they aren't losing anything other than their time. People still kill old content as well as new content. Pve is a constant growth with new ideas, pvp has a hard plateau gated by skill, and whether you want to cheat or not.
Its honestly cope if you seriously think pvp is the back bone to this game. At most it's the 11th finger someone decided not to amputate.
@@MindReaderosrs Sorry dude but the Xionic guy is right. Pker's are now such a small minority community it's not even funny.
I have a friend that his sole purpose of playing OSRS is to grind ToA over and over again and never got bored. I can kill Vorkath 3 hours straight with 10 mins break in between for money (cuz that's how I build my bank) over and over again without getting bored. Point is you don't get to generalize the whole OSRS playerbase based on your emotions alone. You can't do it doesn't mean other players can't do the same. Sounds like a YOU issue.
@amirulasyraf9199 I guess if people like punching bags over and over again forever, then cool. I don't think it's a me problem. A lot of the pkers are ogs from 07.
There's a lot of new players in the community that play osrs and never even played the original. So I guess I can see why they would like just pvmimg if that's all they've ever known.
I have never recorded myself PKing, from now on, I will always be on record. Simply for the integrity of the Wilderness, we have to all do the same.
I dare not venture into the wilderness with anything more than 200k 🤣 I keep it noted that at some point while braving the wilderness, that I WILL try to run like a coward and die horribly. This video was far scarier than anything I saw on Halloween.
Great vid abyss, jagex should step it up and nuke the cheaters 0 mercy
All of the haters in the comments are vennys btw since they're getting exposed to the community
cheater making video about cheating how ironic :D
Don’t forget hacking his clan members too 🎉
I quit pking and started ironman because of clienters. The only fun I have these days is through LMS and anti pking.
Dont forget LMS is 90% bots and quickly gets boring :(
Back to f2p white portal.
The only true pvp experience.
Wouldn’t forcing everyone into using the Jagex client fix this?
Yeah but Reddit would cry and jagex would give in
Not true you can totally use the software under their client
This needs a server side fix. You can inject cheats or use DMA in any gamr unless the server enforces stuff propertly.
@@AbyssTTVbut Reddit cried about everything in existence. How could they take anything on Reddit seriously
I pk quite a bit, like I have pures and a max med, I've never been unlucky enough to run into a cheater.
You probably have and just didn't know it
You for sure have
@AbyssTTV I guess I'm just not good enough to know what's impossible. If I get outplayed I just move on, but I don't risk anything but an ags. Not many people would be willing to risk a ban for 10m I don't think.
@@joshtharp5503 No dude its not you whose not good enough, at 4:05 in the video I literally showed my pov against a cheater. On my end it looks like a pretty normal fight but from his POV you can see how much the client really did for him
I had a feeling this would happen ever since videos started coming out about killer bots years back. It was only a matter of time before it got into the common botter's hands. Not sure what could be done at this point unless they can really stay on top of bans
4:05 you spent the first 4 minutes crying about cheaters but once they went into your chat and gave you a sub and showed you how it was done "they were pretty cool" LOLOLOLOL
Yeah i was like tf?
Bro did the wildy really die off? Where are the pk vids
Is this background song a Bully soundtrack edited?
There's gotta be a simple fix but wilderness just gets overlooked
I'd say the higher level brackets have more cheaters due to the amount of gp you can pk/rwt with. Go to the lower brackets and are there are far less cheaters because you can only risk so much.
@@robertfoster167 this is true, but it’s not a good solution to the problem that nobody pks on mains or deep wildy, also this happens a lot in bh as well
i've been pking since 2006ish as of the last 5 years i don't pk but here and there when im bored and i've really only play a iron. the state of pking is truly sad as fuck and idk if it can be fixed
Soon the wilderness will be a questions of who’s got the better bot
s/o to jagex for being pvm focused for so long.
6:48 I don’t expect you to know Spanish but that Spanish translation is way off when the text translates “this guy is buying our lunch tomorrow” Lol pretty big bias there, all they said was this “the entangle wont stick”. Cheating sucks but people love to demonize people just trying to feed their family, the same thing you’re doing with your content creation, just at a much cushier scale.
He got the translation wrong 100%. But demonizing people just trying to feed their families? I dunno man... Cheating isn't ethical. This comparison is a HUGE stretch, but that's like saying a guy robbing food from a grocery store at gun point is actually a good guy trying to live.
Or what about scam callers from india? They'll willingly steal peoples life saving to "feed their families". If its unethical, it's unethical. End of story.
Yes it's a video game, but more or less the conclusive scenarios are the same. Someone innocent is being punished for being innocent.
He knows it’s not accurate, he just loves the division. Abyss is racist
hm, just got 99 mage on my 1st ever 1 defence pure, 130qp, now i dont even wanna play it haha
Surely they can detect if a player insta switches 8 ways twice in a row and then disable switching/prayers/eating for a minute etc people will stop using it quickly
Let me get the link to the client
it's from UG Plugins their discord server
Damn! For a moment there i thought you was trying to get people to use/pay for cheating clients 😂
I'm not even a Pker and i feel bad for genuine good pvp players, i want to believe jagex will some how come up with a more permanent fix, at the very least people who do pk deserve fair ground to play, not this shit...😂
great job abyss
9:13 That’s so crazy I’m not gonna lie 😅😂
brighter shores hype
Also make higher xp rates and better drop rates in PvP worlds. Jagex do something
You have every right to be pissed about this. Jagex hasn't really done anything about these issues and honestly the player base is moving on to other things and less and less players are up to the challenge of getting skill proficient enough to actually enjoy the pk scene. (myself included) the skill level needed to compete is INSANE when you think about it. This means it's a very exclusive skill set and less people want to get involved where there is so much cheating involved and the competition isn't fair. I hope they do something about this or else we're going to be strictly talking about 'PKING' in Osrs as a thing of the past.
This is definitely keeping me from wanting to pk.
I honestly do not care for PVP in this game because it is just too sweaty and RSI inducing, but I also do not want it to die out cause it is an essential part to the game.
I hope Jagex fixes this sooner than later.
i agree , there is also more problems with pking imo , the people i fought in bounty hunter just suck these days , they eat at 95hp and run right after they spec lol , its just not the same.
Like the other guy said, wouldn’t surprise me either if he was paid to make this, dude has done super shady shit in the past
@@MrAdamz123 where’s the endorsement? Me trying to get it removed, covering every single aspect of the ability to find out what the program is and reporting cheaters constantly for over 2 years and being the only content creator to bring UA-cam awareness and dedicate time to trying to fix the problem? Tinfoil hat wearer go tweet about the election and don’t make assumptions here that u know nothing about
facts
Yeah after this vid im about to start clienting if it’s really that easy
Yeah if you do that you're getting banned.
this is what i've been saying for a year and everyone just copes and acts like im the problem so they don't have to face the reality that their game isn't as good as it used to be. its the same thing with the "player count" shills. No one wants to acknowledge that theres at least 1 bot farm of ~100 people on almost every world, not to mention a huge chunk of the player base logging into multiple accounts at once.
there's no saving this game, osrs or rs3, because the jagex devs and corporate both are incompetent
Well said and made. Here from Odas YT
Yes but Jagex dosen't care about the pvp scene. you know it, I know it, everybody knows it
Bro since u made this vid so many people using it in just lms
good video, lol @ vennies killing that 400m set "WERE RICH!!!!!!"
Yeah this is why i quit, only played DMM and they would be banned and back again in a hour
the translate looks like google translate hahaha
not even google translate, he just typed random shit xd
Anyone who knows that guys voice well will pick up on it being him.
Thanks for spreading awareness, G
Man never have i been more encouraged to not enter the wildy like ive always done since the first time i was scammed back in 2005. Almost like theres no point in engaging with that content. Womp womp pkers