WW2 Battle Of The Bulge: Then & Now - CHENEUX
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Cheneux was one of Kampfgruppe Peiper's last chances to advance west and reach the Meuse River.
It was on the way to Cheneux that his convoy of half tracks and Panther tanks came under aerial attack from P-47 Thunderbolts of the 9th USAAF.
In this video I look at the Then and Now images and the key features of this aspect of Kampfgruppe Peiper's fighting in the Ardennes.
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I was recommended by the History Underground. I was not disappointed! This is the kind of content I’ve been searching for! Subscribed!
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I've walked through all the towns and battlefields there for decades...found the most incredible things still lying around...
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Thanks a lot for this vidéo. M'y father was born in cheneux in 1930. He had 15 years old during the battle. Sometime he explained us this terrible period.
You’re most welcome and thank you for sharing your Fathers story. I can’t imagine how tough it must have been for those Belgium civilians that had to live through the fighting there.
Great video and very educational. Thank you!
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Thank you so much! JD’s work has been such an inspiration to myself and his support has been amazing.
Thank you for watching!
My uncle, Paul Bates, was one of those bridge blowing American engineers
nice video but i found the music a bit over the top... overall you do excellent content thanks for that
In 1995, I stopped at La Gliese. Didn't know to go further.
I'm leading a group of friends on a tour of the Bugle battlefields, as well as a number of WW1 sites next month (Sept) and have found your videos to be an excellent addition to my research for the locations. Many thanks for your great work and best regards from the US.
Glad to hear they’re of some use! Hope you have a great tour over their and everyone enjoys it!
Is the "Bugle" battlefield anywhere near the 'Bulge' battlefields ?😄
Love your video’s. I’m from Belgium. Subscribe to your channel. 👍🏻
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying them! And welcome to the channel, I’ve still got a few more episodes to come from the Ardennes so I hope you enjoy them!
So very interesting.
Thank you! I’ll have another episode about the US attack by the men of the 504th PIR on Cheneux out soon!
@@WW2Wayfinder I’ll look forward to it. 👍🏻
Do you think they knew that bunker was there or was it pure luck that they found it? And even if it already was on their maps it was still fortunate that the US attack came right there.
I think it was just a great stroke of luck for Peiper and Knittel!
Where were you able to get the colorized film from? And was it from this combat action? Regardless, very informative video!
It’s all from various archives, just takes a while to search for it all!
Thank you for watching😃
The firing from those airplanes was so inaccurate. They had a much better chance to score a hit with a bomb than they did with missiles or even machine gun fire. So many supposed tank kills were actually missed. What chance do you really have at 350- 400 mph?
Agreed it was extremely difficult especially with the flak and weather conditions to contend with as well!
Great Research and Explanation as usual
Well Done 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it!
Just found your channel Wayfinder.. Excellent content. Have always wished I could visit these battlefields. Thanks for giving me the next best alternative.
You’re most welcome! Glad you enjoyed this episode and hope you have time to watch some more. Also got lots more to come so hopefully can show you more over the next few months!
Enjoyed the video. Incredible to think the fence and gate are obviously pre WW2.
Glad you enjoyed it! Always a favourite spot to visit when touring the Ardennes as it’s so unspoilt!
Awesome!
Thank you!
Outstanding Wayfinder! I have been in that bunker and great to highlight how important the P-47 pilots were risking a low cloud deck, rolling hills for a low level attack on Peiper's column. Slowed Peiper enough to give US engineers time to blow we bridge beyond Cheneux. Great video! - Michael "Doc"
Thank you! It’s a great bunker isn’t it! Having been in several throughout Europe I was genuinely surprised to see how clean and dry it was inside which was really good to see it being looked after.
A veteran I knew, Stanley Tomkiel was withe the 307th Airborne Engineers assigned to the 504th PIR. Promoted on Christmas Day, 1944 when his Sgt. Was killed removing German mines. Dangerous job!
Your videos and research are absolutely top notch please keep them coming mate.
Thank you! And lots more lined up😉
My father was with the 117th at Stavelot, behind Peiper and blocking his retreat from the trap. There was an enormous fuel dump on the hill above Stavelot and in one post-war interview Peiper says he knew about the fuel, and in another he seems not to know about the fuel or is just very vague on the subject. Peiper's column died for lack of fuel and the question has always nagged me; did the support column behind him (blocked at the Stavelot bridge) have orders to seize the fuel? Did he or did he not know about the fuel? He had just come through the German cantons of Belgium (east side of the Ambleve) and any number of collaborators could have told him. It may have even been on maps of their advance that had such intel gathered from spies and collaborators. Did Peiper know and just not want to admit the enormous tactical error in not seizing the fuel with his main armored column? Most of what happened over the next few days hinged on that lack of fuel. Panzers without gas are just pillboxes.
Thanks, Jon. You were lucky with the weather
The days previous had been typical Ardennes weather with low cloud and fog! That was the one decent day out of the whole trip!
Served in B/1-504, and after reading Ross Carter’s account in ‘Those Devils in Baggy Pants,’ made walking the attack route to Cheneux all the more unbelievable.
I was filming there again earlier this week but covering the attack put in by the men of the 504th! Incredible and gut wrenching all at the same time. No idea how they did!
I was B 1-504 1988-1994
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Oh wow! Now that is a recommendation!!! Thank you!!!🍻
Thank you again wonderful work
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!
The footage of girl on the cart with two horses being strafed by a P-47, has always horrified me.
I know that she might have been delivering aircraft parts- but it’s horrific to see.
Defining not nice to see, I agree. It must have been hard for those pilots to go after those sorts of targets.
I've always considered this strafing footage of a civilian horse-drawn hay cart a war crime and probably a very common one. Whataboutery doesn't change that.
Thanks
Thank you so much for the support, I really appreciate it!
Phewww.. you have my full attention. The winter icy conditions, the narrow roads served the surprised and overwhelmed allied forces well in slowing down Pieper’s advance. Fuel was also among his desire to attain. I can’t remember the American Black unit that stayed at their positions manning and firing on key close positions. They stayed till they were taken and as I remember a few retreated to a house for safety. This unit bought time for our forces to regroup. The gate that still stands just blows me away.. it puts me there and so do you.. I’ll never be able to afford such a trip but I wish I could visit the D Day memorial and such places you are showing.. wish I could visit the Pearl Harbor memorial too.. people like yourself and Steve Jobs give us a taste.. thank you thank thank you.., More!!
The Ardennes is quite the place to visit and some of the areas really are still untouched from the battles that raged there 79 years ago.
I’ve never been to Pearl but it’s on my bucket list to try and make it there one day to see it!
I am pleased I found this channel. Fantastic work. I wish I had this information available before I did my tour several years ago 😊
Thank you! And welcome to the channel!
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Thank you!
Keep these vids coming.
Thank you! Certainly will😃
Great video!
Thank you!
Love it!
Thank you!
Civil War photos have a few trees highlighted that show the same trees in modern times. I believe they are called witness trees and fir me it gives pause to see a tree that was there at the same time.
Love that expression, witness tree! It really does make you pause and reflect on what they’ve seen over the years and how they remain silent to it all. Quite incredible really! Thanks for watching!
So when did Peipper turnaround and head back for Germany? He did get to the muse, did he?
Just amazing how the area has not changed much
It’s incredible isn’t it! Thank you for watching!
loved the video!
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Claims of tank kills by Thunderbolt pilots are acknowledged today as wildly exaggerated.
True, but understandable given the speeds and confusion of engaging ground targets at 250-300mph plus!
They definitely did keep the Germans from employing their armour at full strength so their presence certainly acted as a force multiplier on the battlefield!
And all for what 😢
To stop the Nazi reign of terror.
Another outstanding one
Thank you!!!
Superb. Subbed and notifications are on!
Thank you! Lots more content to come over the next few months!
@@WW2Wayfinder can’t wait!
Another great effort, Jon!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done pleas more of this greetings from Germany
Glad you enjoyed it and still a few more Battle of the Bulge episodes to go before I start ramping up for Normandy!
@@WW2Wayfinder i Like your filmworke its highly welklcome
Thank you! Still lots to learn and I try and improve it for each episode so I can create the best content out there!
Simply brilliant thank you
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for taking the time to watch!
unfortunately there were civilians hiding in the cellar on the house on the corner during the attack and all where killed .
Sadly yes.
Done the whole route myself.great content thank you. I am sure you ll go to stoumont. Another interesting battle site
I did visit Stoumont! I just have had a chance to edit it yet! But that is a fantastic village to visit. Glad you’ve been able to visit the area and see it first hand!