2017 FZ09 MT09 Full Exhaust ECU Flash Dyno Tune Results
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- 2017 FZ09 MT09 Full Exhaust ECU Flash Dyno Tune Results - The final core piece to the 2017 FZ09 Project, getting it on the dyno, flashed, tuned and final setup decided on. For 2017 everything has changed with the ECU. The old problems have been solved, and it really is THAT GOOD stock now. With a full open exhaust the flash gave just under 2HP gain over the whole rev range, and ever so slightly smoothed out the throttle response at the mid point, but most will never even notice it was there. Most other options and features are no longer needed or available with the flash. It was still a really cool experience and now I know! The Yoshimura R77 baffle in gives a 8HP gain, baffle out another 3 and the flash another 2, with no reflash needed between in or out. The ECU now has a HUGE range of 'correct' for maximum power. I settled on flashed, baffle in for maximum enjoyment and a +10 gain. If you want to eliminate the pops you now need to install AIS blockoff plates, it's no longer a flash option. I love them :)
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The info you provide on your channel is priceless, you deserve more subs. Keep up the great work!
+Hubert Baron thanks!
I agree!
Cant agree more
ijust got my full exhhaust from black widow and did need to remap of flash sound great and is about half price fully recomended
I get exactly the same continues droning noise, but it's only when the girlfriend is on the back.
Lol
😂😂😂 I like that..
so true, my 2014 dynojet job on my Fast -zone 09 made it a brand new bike, a must for that model. 💝🎯with my full exhaust system.
That is plenty power for this type of bike, if you want more than you guys need to buy a liter bike. Thanks for posting this video. The older I get I cannot handle the baffle out on sport bikes, its just annoying on long trips.
With the akra on my xsr900 titanium ..it's very loud without the baffle with no drone ... If I insert the baffle it's very quiet good to pass emissions test every year ..
Really appreciate the clarity
Awesome video. I just got the 2017 mt 09 to. Will put on same exhaust after 600 miles break in. My tech also told me its a waste of time flashing the 2017. Cause the ecu will adjust it's selv after a couple of pulls...
+Kenneth Jensen your tech is a moron.
Gibberish
OK, it sounds great with the baffle in as well. 👍🏼
All that time and money for a couple horsepower and lots of noise? Stock exhausts are great these days.
Love the fz video's, bought a new 2017 fz09 a week ago and was thinking about getting an m4 slip on but was worried about the fueling being good. Sounds like it would be fine if i leave the baffle in. Thanks for posting these video's! I'll be interested in what tires you chose when its time for new ones.
I have a set of Road 5 waiting in the garage
I have a 2015 full Akra exhaust, the drone was crazy loud until I put the baffle in. yours pops a lot on deceleration. I don't get that, maybe it's the different years.
it's a race exhaust. the drawback of putting the baffle in is losing HP, which you need when racing.
Ear plugs work wonders
+SecondSquared which is why I wear them.
Thanks for all the valuable info. Your's is without a doubt, the best channel for the FZ/MT09. I have the 2016 model. Do you think that if I flash my ECU that it will bring valuable improvements?
100%
Good man. No BS!
Just as I suspected. All looks and sound. Minimal insignificant power gains. Ill keep my stock system for now. Getting on the gas hard and not drawing attention, is how I like it!!
+Ratchie Leyvas I think you misunderstood. Yes the flash is minimal at 2hp but the exhaust alone was 10 even on a stock ecu. That's not minimal, that's almost a 10% gain.
TwoWheelObsession. Oh ok, I did miss that. I guess since Im only 5'5/165lbs. Its plenty fast for me. My upgrades went into the suspension. RaceTech fully adjustable fork kit and rear shock. Its a 2015
+Ratchie Leyvas luckily the 2017 suspension is very upgraded stock now
TWO: What do you weigh and did you tune your suspension? I'm 190 and had my suspension professionally tuned. I think the shock compression is a little to weak for my weight. Would love to hear your thoughts.
+justaordinaryguy 250 and yes, see my full how to from a few weeks ago.
Same exhaust/flashed. Mine has block plates, I personally would rather not have popping. I run baffle out all the time. If I'm going any distance, I'll put in earplugs but sometimes not even then. Dude, do you have some rather sensitive ears.
R77 8hp more? nevr!
Thank you for the video.
How can I get a hold of him
Really great content here. Thanks for the video and details. To be clear, does this change the throttle response on a 2017? I test rode one and my body was falling forward and backward because it's so touchy. Does a tune smooth that out some or not so much?
That's completely up to how you order it, it can be flashed to your specifications
Interesting. Good to know. Thank you
The guy doing the dyno runs is hella jacked...
In all seriousness though, does drone affect your hearing with ear plugs in? Does it cause damage, or is it something to not worry about?
It's volume+duration that does damage. With my ear plugs in it certainly limits it, but I would not want it there over time.
I have been away for a while. Do you still have the red 2014(?) FJR? Did you trade it for this FZ09? I have been looking at the new 18 MT09 & MT10. So you are loving the FZ09? Nice video...Subbed
I have both and love them
good morning friend where is fortmyers located I have a Mt-07 I would like to tune it
I have fz09 2017, but i dont know what is generation ecu is there. How can i recognize it? Do i need or not flash ecu?
Very nice video. Explains everything excellent. If i get a Yoshimura slip on with baffle in will i need an ECU flash?
No
great! thanks for the quick reply.
You should get a fuel module and a generic map if you swap full exhaust. Stock ECU isn't able to adjust more than a few % air/fuel ratio without requiring a piggyback module. It's not a joke messing around with fueling and air (intake or exhaust). Quick way to destroy an engine when it runs lean.
With a flash, you have the benefit of removing the electronic speed limiter (if that's your thing), adjusting fan-on temps, ignition curves (if necessary), secondary flies (if necessary), adjust quick-shifter times, and a whole host of parameters. I'm sure Yamaha has really cleaned things up. I'd be disappointed in the speed limiter personally.
@@exothermal.sprocket Kinda makes sense to have a speed limiter on a powerful naked bike tho. I know its a bit of a bummer but i see it as a safety feature. No stabilizer , no wind protection and kinda soft suspension really not a great combination for going more than 225km/h. I do not get why Yamaha does it, but i feel like they are taking care of me/us x).
Also yamaha sells an Akrapovic exhaust with cat in it, that only gives 2,5 HP and is only 2kg lighter, you think the bike will run lean with it? It doesn't say it needs a ECU reflash and that exhaust doesn't even stops the warranty. I have a 2018 Yamaha-MT 09 SP (only sold in eu) and i'd like a bit more sound and horsepower, but the bike still has 9-10 months of warranty. You think the OG akrapovic will be enough? its not cheap it cost 1.000$+ , while race exhausts are cheaper and give more.
@@MakTheSank Frankly 135 mph is illegal anywhere at any time. Yet people do it. And speaking from the perspective of physics and science, it's really stupidly easy to do that speed with total and absolute lack of danger. But on this bike the suspension and steering stability is rubbish. Get that sorted out with a shock, cartridges, and stabilizer and 130 is easy and stable.
Using another naked bike for perspective, a reflashed GSX-S1000 can do big numbers without wobbling and floating about. 1290 Super Duke R is another. Tuono 1100 is another. S1000R is another. Just depends on the rake/trail of the front forks, swingarm angle of the rear wheel, quality of damping circuits front and rear, and proper spring rates for the rider. ua-cam.com/video/j7TMRXk_xj8/v-deo.html
Thanks for the honest report...not worth it .. Yamaha engineers are better than garage guys....
Thanks for the video. So full exhaust you recommend a flash so she won't run lean. Would you recommend for just a slip on?
+MotoMorton nothing is needed for slipons
Thanks for the reply, really appreciate the DIY videos.
@@TwoWheelObsession I realize this is 3 years ago but in the video you said if you run a full exhaust (lets say a Akra Carbon) and you keep the DB killer in.. then no need for reflash on 2017 and up correct?
Do you still own this bike I have a 16 xsr900 and I am thinking about the yoshimura exhaust, sound it's really good
Yep
Very cool
do you know if the drone issue applies with Graves as well on this bike? Thank you.
+YellowHoRRnet no idea but there’s no reason to think another model would be the same.
My yoshi r77 has that "drone" sound too but I only notice it on slow deceleration.
@13:15 What caused that stutter? Tire slip?
Traction control kicking in
Oh yup. Forgot the '17s had that...more like "fun remover" ;)
Only on TCS2 - TCS1 removes wheelie control and you can further turn both off.
So I can only speak to the flash from Ivan's Performance in Congers NY, but in my case I have to disagree pretty much categorically. On my 17, A-mode was still pretty ridiculous (though not as bad as the first gens). Ivan's flash:
- smoothed out A-mode some more (it's even more noticeable on the first gens)
- closed off the air induction system so it doesn't pop NEARLY as much anymore
- softens the decel fuel cut so you're not flying over the bars when you chop throttle
- gives you better power in the top end
- getting back on the throttle from closed, say when making a 90° turn, is WAAAAAY smoother
It does even more than that, but that's just some of the stuff I can remember. It was a NIGHT AND DAY difference for me, and it's only $350. It literally addresses almost (if not) all of the things you say your flash couldn't. It wasn't a TON of power increase, but it improved the rideability 10 fold.
They DID, however, develop their own hardware and software to do the work they do.
www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/fz09.htm
Watch my later vid where I updated after the software supported everything. They all do it all now.
I have a 2019 mt 09 would i decrease hp if i go with akropovic carbon full exhaust on a stock tune?
I did 114.6 hp on stock tune with the akrapovic carbon race line. With the ecu flash and proper tune with woolich race tools 121.4 hp
mine hit 114 with stock header an cheap slip on stock tune after flash tunes 119.6 same stock header cheapo slip on....yamaha spent money on header design for this bike full exhaust is a waste of bread. slip FTW
Hello , I’m thinking to do the ecu to my bike ! I have a m4 slipon , do you recommend me to do it or you think there is no need ?
Thanks for sharing your videos !!
So I don't need a flash if I put on a full system exhaust with the baffle out?
Baffle in, no. Out, yes.
TwoWheelObsession what will happen if i take out the baffle and don't do the flash?
It runs too lean in several spots for long term engine health and has a few hesitations. We found that out on the dyno.
TwoWheelObsession oh okay I was about to take out the baffle but I guess I'll wait till I do the flash then and if I may ask what do I need to do the flash?
+Jefejeff you need to send it off to the company of your choice to have it flashed. Or ride there.
Doesn’t seem worse the $$ for 2hp
You misread. 2HP was baffle in to baffle out. The flash gave a 10% improvement, 8-10HP.
The dyno chart on 3:01 shows the 2hp difference.It is marked as baffle out and baffle out with flash. I'm confused as well
The most difference you can have for any bikes, it's the weight loss. I'm weighing 175 lbs and my friend is 250 and so much difference on any of our bikes! Iit's free and good for the environment 😉
Thank you so much for all the informative videos that you've put up. I am getting a new fz 09 soon and your video totally clears my doubt. 👍
agree man. The guy made such an informative video, much respect
Sounds much better with the baffle in..so much smoother sounds and more crispy
Got the Yoshimura R-77 as well, mainly because of the “baffle in no flash” statement lol. Baffle out is obnoxious. I do ride a 2018 FZ-09 and this video was the deciding factor.
PC is 100% needed with a full exhaust and choppy throttle response like on the 2016 GSXS-1000. Yamaha spent a lot of time and money re flashing the FZ ECU on the newer 2017 model. Save a ton of money because a Slip on for sound is all you need!
Dude, super grateful as this was super clarity to my 2017 pre-mod-wise! Thank you for all the individual details and nuances to each level and change (baffle in and out most esp), sharing this is extremely nice for the rest of us FZ owners!! Cheers! ; )
Wow, super informative, I bet that was a cool experience like you said. I've been riding for 1 1/2 months and I picked up my 2017 FZ-09 last month, AMAZING first bike, all about self control and not being a idiot haha
You bought a 100+ hp bike for a starter bike? Dual sports are a nice place to start..on dirt. Statistically people who ride dirtbikes for a few years before streetbikes are much less likely to crash
So your saying if you have a 2017 you probably shouldn’t flash the ecu after installing a full system exhaust? Just got a 2017 fz09. Getting a exhaust installed next week.
Can u get it tuned to make those crackles and pops everytime you let off the throttle
Either the dyno reads differently or other tuners have been able to get a good bit more. Usually 115 whp and 65 torque. Overall gains are much less critical than all the non-numeric improvements such as throttle behavior, injector cut, gear-based power restrictions, fan-on temp, air-fuel ratio improvements, ignition restriction improvements, TB butterflies behavior, speed limiters, PAIR valve/exhaust valve/O2 sensor disable, and other issues.
All dynos are different. Only way to see how your bike changes is to take it in stock to get a Dyno run, do your mods and take it back to see where it's at. Tbf figures mean very little. For me it's all about getting the fueling right.
Pretty much
Wow, at start up w/out baffle, it sounds sooo good! Watching you ride made me want to get on my bike and GO... darn it, I'm enjoying a cocktail, so no-can-do. Yah, what Hubert said.😋
Im just buying the m4 slip on
Hey I am thinking the same thing, did you do any flashing?
Hey guys I have a 14 fz09 with a full m4 carbon and it def should be tuned after. I bought it without it tuned and my bike doesnt run right without the tune
So, I have a 19 MT09 and I want to put a full yoshi r77 exhaust on it. Do I need to get a flash if I plan on keeping the baffle in or do I need to either way? Thanks and great video!
Hey man did you find an answer? I am in a similar place with my bike
So on the 2017 model, I can run a full exhaust without any flashing at all as long as I keep the baffle in? Correct?
ART R not, not a full exhaust. Not unless your okay with potentially shorter engine life from overheating
You dont have to flash you just need a power commander 5, and have a mechanic tune it with a computer. You dont need to put it on a dyno machine.
Jonathon Hittel do we still need a flash if the bike got “tuned”?
Perfect vid and spare a lot of time ! thanks for sharing !! So for the Yoshi baffle in, no need to flash the ecu and still gain a bit of HP and a smoother thottle response. but what if it is another exhaust system or a slip on? we can t figured out the result unles doing a dyno test or riding with it i guess...?
Great channel, very informative and glad I subbed. Small question...did your aftermarket exhaust affect your fuel mapping or is the standard ECU able to cope?
The Akrapovic full exhaust system with the the baffle and cat in is the way to go. 115 whp @ 10’800 rpm.
So you are saying the Yamaha doesn't have an aggressive fuel cut at low rpm?
Not for 17+ at least. I ran it on and off, hardly any difference.
Hey man, great video! I just got my ECU flashed by Dave as well. I have the exact same setup as you...Yoshi R77 on a 2017 FZ 09. How did you find your fuel economy? I found that my bike has become a pig on fuel! I used to get around 225Km before fuel indicator starts blinking. Now, I get around 170Km and I'm blinking. I'm usually running around my baffle in. What are your thoughts?
No change here, I get 45 MPG with a heavy hand.
Haha even up here in Canada, I recognize David Verdecchia. All hail Vcyclenut! 👌
Super helpful. You've left no questions unanswered. Thanks so much!
So if id get a full exhaustsystem for example the street legal acra system with the baffle in and a catalyst in a flash wouldnt be necessary?
Did you find an answer to this??
Is it possible to get rid of the stupid top speed limit of 210km/h with a flash? It’s really annoying that the bike basically shuts off power if you reach 210 in 5. and 6. gear...
Yes
Best review I have seen thanks for the honesty
i realy want to add this exhaust on my fz-09 2017 , if i keep the baffle in do a realy need to flash and dyno tune it ?
That Snap,crackle ,Pop sounds amazing tho💯👌
Talking about baffle-in or baffle-out setup. I just bought a used 2018 MT09 with a full Akrapovic exhaust and the previous owner said it was tuned by the dealer. I assume the tune was done without the battle. What I want to know is if i decide to run the bike on a long trip with the baffle-in would i have to re-tune or it doesn’t matter at all like the video stated? Knowing that it is a different brand exhaust and are all tune basically the same weather it is tune by A or B or Z tuning company??????????
So you spent 5 hours thrashing that motor just to add a couple of hp, if you want more hp buy a bigger bike, dynos are motor killers.
I have never found the need to tune or flash a motorcycle ecu, even after adding exhaust. I’ll trust Yamaha engineering team before I trust the dyno guy that will red line your bike all day trying to squeeze out a couple of hp..
Just my AUD$0.02
Uh, no. It’s for that and more important,y all the other Ecu options like a vastly better throttle response.
TwoWheelObsession yeah I just don’t get it, if I’m not happy with the smoothness or throttle response I would choose a different bike or wait till the manufacturer sorted it out and buy the next model..
it’s good of you to post this video, and yes that pipe sounds amazing...
Cheers mate
Hmmm...... seems I've seen 115+ and 65+ with the 2016 or older bikes on a lot of online dynos. Don't remember if it was SAE or STD scale. SAE should be used these days. Perhaps it's temps or altitude that's registering less. Dyno's vary from one to the next as well.
Hello. Did you notice a loss of any low-end power, or any flat spots in the torque curve at all, prior to the ECU flash? I have the same bike in black (2019), and really like this exhaust. Thanks for your time and videos. Your explanation afterwards regarding the value of the flash was very informative.
Strange that you mention drone, I have the same full yoshi system on my 17 fz09 with mo baffle and I experience no drone
I'm a new subscriber and very much enjoy your content. As a former FZ-09 and FJ-09 who now has had an FZ-10 since July your content is close to pushing me to get an 2017 FZ-09 as a second bike. Yours sounds simply glorious. Thanks for taking the time to put the videos up.
Im leaving my 19 alone exhaust wise. I put a pipe on my super charged seadoo and the drone is mind numbing. BTW love south florida especially sanibel island. I'm from gulf shores Alabama .
Wow thanks! I have a 2014 and yeah, the fuel delivery is not very good but I'm used to it now. Guess I'll spend my money on gear and suspension
Hi! just a 2HP gain? Shouldn't be more?...
Looking on the unlimited map for the 2017 fz09/mt09 I can see huge variations on the ETV, and FUEL vs. RPM. I'm talking about P/N:BS2-8591A-00 , did you flash based on this map, or it was tuned from stock map?
good things besides the HP gain: AIS disabled, fan control e is better, default to A mode.
The ftecu website is not updated/accurate. The 2017 has completely different options. As I went though in the video.
Did u have any problems during the dyno? Jut dynoed mine Mt09-SP and it cuts off at 9000 RPM, We tryed turning of the TCS but didn't work. Hooked up the yamaha "box" to see any error codes cause the engine light turned on. Only found error code 58, which is the throttle controll. But any ideas why it cuts at 9000 Rpm? Is it cause we didn't remove the ABS sensor?
No, sorry. I'm assuming you didn't go to Dave. He did have to do some things but I don't remember what. He knows what he's doing.
@@TwoWheelObsession Ah okay, no i didn't i don't even live in America :) Really frustrating to not know what to do, I mean the bike have been out for a while and i can't find anything with the same problem :/ Ty for answer ! And Gl with your MT09
Your dyno guy just isn't familiar with it.
To be honest we cannot feel the drone on our speakers. Not even a lot of difference between baffle in and out. I think it is a resonance thing and can only be felt real life as you said. So summing up you are saying that no flashing is actually needed when fitting a full exhaust and leaving the baffle in is a good idea so it doesn't get rambunctious.
Wow! Very informative! Thanks for the great video!
So basically, a ECU re-flash won't achieve as much power gain as 2013-2016 model?
I have a 2017 Euro-spec MT-09 with Akarprovic Titanium full exhasust & K&N filter, wonder if it is worthy to invest in some piggyback system like Power Commander V or Rapidbike EVO. Would you mind sharing your insight on those system?
By the way, what kind of fuel are you getting in USA? The only fuel available in my country is 98 RON.
Good video, I will get that same exhaust for my 17 FJ-09. Probably pass on the tune. I would always use the baffle
5 hours of testing, 2hp gain. Oooof
jokingly, what has happened to you? second childhood?
+John Pitre huh?
TwoWheelObsession I think he meant with the crotch rocket
I think he's wondering why you're not riding a big slow overpriced Harley.
Bigdog Bulldog........do you know anyone in your family or friends that owns a sports car? Do they call it a BUTT ROCKET?
Get Akrapovič exhaust. The best . Moto GP riders use it, we use it and thats all i have to say about it.
which ecu did u use ? can you recommend for me a ecu for the termignoni full system ? thanks dear
Nice stuff man, I'm really close to you, I got Two brothers full exhaust on my gsxr600 and I put back my baffle because it was WAY too LOUD, I still need to Tune mine , Cool stuff keep it up 💪🏼
I picked up a 2014 FZ09 recently and it has some full system with a skinny, short muffler. It's hardly a muffler at all. Loud. I picked up a stock system for the bike and it's MUCH nicer to ride. I felt a power loss for sure as the bike would always pull the front tire in first gear at WOT no matter what when it had the loud exhaust. With the stock exhaust I can go full throttle in first without wheelying sometimes.
Yeah it’s the twin cats that soak the power
Great video. Trying to find time to head down to David to have my PCV removed and Flash done. Heading down from Clearwater Beach.
Great Video and information! It's very helpful to get some solid data showing how much work Yamaha has put into the 2017+ ecu. Some of the theory is the baffle is allowing the lambda sensor to have a stable environment to adjust the fuel air mix more than the +/- 10% on previous years
I have a problem and i need help. I recently bought a 2018 MT09 with a full carbon akrapovic exhaust system on the bike. There are two previous owner before me. The second owner which is the previous owner i bought the bike from said that the bike was installed and tuned by the dealership that the original first owner bought it from. I don’t trust the knowledge of the second owner about the history of the bike. But the bike look brand new around 2000 miles on the odometer when i bought it. My problem is when i was riding the bike and sitting in a stop light and the bike is idling when i give it a little rev from stand still on neutral. The bike would stall from a stand still neutral geared position. The engine would just shut off. The engine would stall from neutral gear and idle about 2 times out of 10 tries (it dose not stall everytime in that situation but only 2/10). I do not know if the dealer even installed the full exhaust and tuned it. I think someone is lying. i think the original owner which is the first owner bought and installed the full akrapovic exhaust without having it tuned but i am just speculating. What should i do? Is it just a tuning problem or could it be something else or much more worse? And the bike already has 2000 miles when i bought it and i guess it was running in that state. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks
I had the same problem! Never figured it out.. unfortunately I totaled my bike on the weekend
Thanks for your videos, very detailed. I have just bought a 2017 mt09. As you say that drone noise is very weird, I am still running mine in at the moment but also looking around at exhausts. I was probably going for the akropovic although have a soft spot for the yoshimura systems. on their site they do not list a exhaust for them? thanks again
+vinnychoff it's the R77. I got it from revzilla
Just getting into the scene of motorcycles and came across a few of your videos, due to me researching stuff about my bike ('18 MT-09), and I enjoyed the clear information and subtle metaphors in your explanations. I am a fairly new rider and am learning more and more about the motorcycle scene with videos such as yours. Came to say thank you with this along with the Like and Subscribe being hit. I don't do these things that much to other channels UNLESS they give me feedback like your content. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, Aloha
The bike is pre-owned and bought it from a dealer and the bike had a full Yoshi exhaust with no dB killer inserted. That's all I could tell for motor-wise. Other things like bar end, and aftermarket front/back blinkers were already installed, which would be the main buying points for me.
Hi, have you any idea, where to pick up a good rpm signal for further processing?
Or do you know where they picked up the signal for the dyno tune?
Greetings
It was one of the ecu wires at the harness
Agreed completely about not noticing horsepower gain or loss a a few digits. I have a civic si. That I flashed. It gained maybe 7 I think according to Dino stats. It wasn't worth it. Can't notice that. My question. Is. When would you notice? Say 15 hp? What is your opinion of noticeable gain or loss.
+kelly j I think 10% is a realistic value on the butt dyno ;)
With this experience what would you recommend for a 2010 FJR? Mechanically mine is stock but I would love to have a lower rumbling exhaust note. Mine has plenty of HP and I don't think 2-4 HP increase would net much improvement.
#1 it would take a full exhaust and power commander and a dyno tune to change power. #2 there are a ton of slip ons available, you just have to go with what looks and sounds good to you.
I don't care for loud exhaust, a little over stock is OK...
how about the xsr900? do you think they fixed the bugs as well?
Hi, which software did you use for the Tuning? Thanks.
You almost solved it. It is the resonate frequency of your vibrating helmet - caused when the exhaust's pressure waves hit your helmet. I am pretty sure anyway. Tests with different helmets will likely be different if true. ..gone or at a different rpm. It sounds great to me! :)
Ah, no. It's clear just standing next to it. I heard it for hours on the Dyno too.
hey i know u did a seat review but how did it feel after 6 hours of riding in one day? I hate this stock seat 40-50 miles and im toast. Also as far as the exhaust do you still hear the intake growl with the new exhaust? mine is stock and i love that intake sound when u get on it. I would think that the loud exhaust baffle in or out might take that away. Love your videos btw!!!
The intake sound is definitely overshadowed but you still have the same noises from the exhaust - non issue :) I can only say that 3 hours in the seat was flawless, at a time, with just one fuel break in the middle each time.
You mentioned the only time it would really be beneficial on a 2017 and up is if I have a full exhaust system because I will want to get rid of the lean mapping. Is it possible to take the lean spots out with a power commander and a tune? Not many people can tune through ecu, so it might be easier to use a power commander with a local tuner.
Yep
It’s like people don’t realize Yamaha extensively tests and designs that stock exhaust. It’s not a dog. It’s a good exhaust it’s just quiet because of legal requirements.
No one said otherwise
Do you know if the earlier FZ's (13-16) put out more HP than the 17' with the ECU flashed and a full aftermarket exhaust ?
No. Same engines.
im thinking of adding a slip-on. to bring up the sound. i find the sound will alert those in four wheelers that im on the road. its a safety issue up here in the nyc area. my question is will i need a flashing should i add a slip-on. by the way good vid
No
Hooligan !!! That bike is a blast to ride it seems. Have fun.