The tragedy of the one guy who was right about the Trojan Horse - Noah Charney
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Explore the famous depictions of the tale of Laocoön, who the gods punished for warning the Trojans about the Greeks' wooden horse.
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Laocoön, a seer and priest, was deeply suspicious of the enormous wooden horse that the Greeks left in Troy and cautioned the Trojans not to accept this strange offering. But their fate was already sealed - the gods granted the Greeks victory and punished the priest for threatening their success. Noah Charney explores how Laocoön’s tragic tale inspired countless artists across the ancient world.
Lesson by Noah Charney, directed by Michael Kalopaidis, Zedem Media.
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Laocoon has the biggest “I told you so” in history
Don't forget Kassandra (Cassandra)!
You mean in Mythology xd
@@Telapathia yeah lol
First use of "I told you so".
Yep lol
This is Cassandra's story, too. Cursed to see the future, but have nobody believe her.
But no snakes so she didn't get murdered for a while (and got to foresee her own murder).
"I'm Nobody. Fill me in!"
@@markdaniel9657 what
That’s what I thought!
@@GodMineptas It's a joke about what would happen if Cassandra met Odysseus
Cassandra: am I a joke to you?
Troy: yes
that was my first thought. esp. since i am named after her. been hearing the story all my life.
@@casjean8904well she had the curse to see the future but no one believes her laocoon guesses it outright
Cassandra was on the wrong side of the war. She should’ve sided with Odysseus. After all, Nobody would’ve believed her.
EYYY! 👉🏻👉🏻
DAMNN
Good one!
Wow it's mind blowing how that sculpture survived after a millenia and truly amazing how intricate and sophisticated the style is. Truly one masterpiece.
And now, somehow we have “modern art” 😢
If Im not mistaken, it's a Renaissance forgery
Have you even watched the video?
@@aug2224 are you talking to me or to OP?
@@igor-yp1xv not you, you're actually right with the statement above my first comment.
I can't help but think that Laocoon's argument wasn't helped when Cassandra backed him up.
It's a great statue. Very expressive. But my brain always thinks "maybe the snake found it easier to bite because they weren't wearing any protective clothing." XD
Lesson learned: wear clothes around snakes and don't trust the Greeks.
@@sor3999
Probably would help xP
As an Australian I can clarify that typical clothing wouldn't have helped much
In Virgil’s epic poem the Aeneid, Cassandra warned the Trojans the Greeks were hiding inside the Trojan horse but no one believed here. She said many true prophesies but never to be believed.
That was Cassandra's curse, given to her by Apollo, no one ever believed her.😞
She was probably autistic! Able to detect patterns and yet never believed! Been there, done that!
@@LaMarula To be specific, Cassandra had seduced Apollo with the intent to get the power to predict the future and left him once granted this power. Apollo couldn't undo this gift but he cursed her so that no one would believe her.
@@vcpark Yes, exactly. Apollo wanted Cassandra and she tried to tricked him, because she didn't like him back, but it backfired on her...
@@vcparkyeah, but still it is not right from the Apollo part too.
In the Aeneid, it was Athena credited for sending the snakes, as she also gave Odysseus the idea to build the horse to begin with.
It'd be minerva not athena technically 🤓
And Appolodorus suggests it was Apollo who sent the serpents
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 it was a Greek gift to the Trojans, no? Not a roman one? So it would be Athena, not Minerva
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371Tomato tomato
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371minerva is allegedly much less militsristic, so much more of an athena thing
More commonly is Poseidon
No joke, you could argue that the statue's influence extends to modern American superhero and fantasy comics
Good point!
Could you explain the connection
My guess is that modern superhero comics love using artwork that shows heroes in twisted yet muscular poses and statures. They embody near perfect and godly presence while at the same time have very human flaws and fears. A lot like these art pieces
Laocoon: We have been fighting Odysseus for years! do none of you smell a trap?
Ten years, precisely
In the Aeneid, Laocoon warns, "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" - "I fear the Greeks even when they come bearing gifts!" You can use it when an unfriendly acquaintance offers to buy you a drink. On the other hand, it's a free drink...what could go wrong? 🍺🍹🥃
i went to the uffizi gallery a while back and the sculpture of laocoon and his sons really stood out to me, really great to here more about his story!
It's in the Vatican, not in Florence. The one you saw is a copy, not the best one, it's not as powerful. There's an identical copy in the Templar Castle of Rhodes.
Cassandra: ....
Mythology.
Me: **listening to the Troy Saga and with an enduring mythology hyperfixation**
TED-Ed: Say no more!
Dude same
Fellow Winion spotted
@@Epic_Halfblood Hey I remember seeing you in a God Games clip!!
Did it bother anyone else at 5:14 that they wrote 1400BCE to 1600BCE instead of the other way around? It's backwards!
What about Cassandra? She warned them, too!
Mythology.
She can get her own video.
"FatHEr, BurN IT !!!" Famous trojan last words.
"Helen, wanna run away with me?"
Famous Trojan last words 😂
5:12 "Artists of the Renaissance revered ancient Greco-Roman art above all else..."
Except when it came to paint. The statues and reliefs of the Romans and Greeks were carefully painted and gilded to bring them to life, yet Renaissance artists ignored this tradition and, even worse, scrubbed the faded paint from surviving pieces because they believed that pure white marble made for a superior aesthetic.
Please make a video on _that_ topic, as well as how modern technology is allowing us to recreate a long-ignored aspect of ancient art and architecture.
They ain't wrong. The polychrome techniques they used look hideous. I much prefer the pure marble aesthetic.
@@kc3reo There's always some uncertainty as to the exact shading and level of detail, so some artistic license must be allowed for. Some renderings are clownish, while others are phenomenally lifelike (the same is true for "hyper-realistic" humanoid robots). Then too, consider that most of the statues were displayed outdoors, where the sun and smoke would mute the colors over time, and many were displayed on temple pediments, so the colors may have been exaggerated somewhat to improve visibility from the ground.
Also, keep in mind that the medium on which one paints makes a difference. The original statues are polished marble, while models are often made of plaster, which is more porous and a brighter white than most marble.
I was today years old when I learned that Laocoon and His Sons was not sculpted by Michelangelo.
This sculpture had immensely changed Michelangelo’s aesthetic (along with the Belvedere torso). Another interesting part was that the priest’s right arm was found in so many fragments that for many years they re-figured him as holding the serpent high above his head- making it even more serpentine in composition.
It looks like the Olympian gods and goddesses have no tolerance for snitches...
Can you do a video about cassandra? the prophetess who tried to warn them many times but they never believed her
I came here for the computer Trojan horse history , but left inspired because I learned one of the life's valuable lesson.
How could you forget to mention that that section of the Aeneid is almost entirely composed of words which give a hissing assonance, as the snakes slithered through the city to consume the hapless family
Wasn't Cassandra also aware of the horse? Apollo cursed her into being one of his prophets, but no one would ever take what she said seriously.
Mythology.
29 seconds is the earliest Ive been ❤
13 minutes. Thought I was earliest 😅
Awesome as always thanks ❤ love greek mythology and all history
The dad had a gym membership in Troy.
Don't forget Cassandra. Her story was that she was priestess whom Apollo had fallen in love with. To punish her rejection of him, he gave her accurate visions of the future. The problem was, nobody ever believed her when she shared them and though her mad, per Apollo. Such a tragedy to know horrible things will happen and to be able to only watch play it out
Can we just talk about how to pope just found laocoons statute in the dirt ... like unscathed
"...Pope Julius the Second had unearthed something marble-ous..."
This video is amazing, keep going! I'm so flabbergasted that your channel is really helpful, and I'm really grateful for all you've done for us.
Funny, and I thought you're gonna to tell us the story of Cassandra, who also warned the Trojans about the cunning of the Greeks. But hey, ancient mythology is not consistent storytelling.
Both tried to do that. And Cassandra was not killed by snakes, she had another fate. Very different characters
amazing vid the progression through topics was sick
I've seen it in the Vatican museum in April this year, it's realy amazing considering how old it is
Bruh I saw it too, the arm story about is also cool
Hello ted ed! Can you make a video on how a runny nose comes after when we cry???
Strange to call Cassandra "one guy".
Probably a translation thing.
I mean Cassandra has the curse of prophecy and that no one believes her. Laocoon just guessed outright
This channel is my go to channel! I love the content and animation. The videos being around 5 minutes also makes it perfect lenght to watch and learn :)
The fact that they also used real scenes with the animated ones just makes it even more wholesome. Also the fact that they were pronouncing it MEEchelangelo whereas my entire life I've been reading it Michelangelo. :D
It's the Italian pronounciation, most english speaking people just say it the way you do lmao
@@adumba3709 oh now it makes sense tysm :)
I first saw the statue in the movie 28 days later.
It’s a reminder not to trust the soldiers in the movie.
Whaaaat! I always thought this was a Michelangelo's sculpture. This was eye opening!
That was extremely interesting and I'm quite surprised that I didn't know most of it, thanks for the enlightenment!
Video starts at 0:01 btw
For Pete's sake...
Thanks. Saved me from starting from 5:08
You're a life saver ..
Thanks a lot
How's it feel having one singular functioning braincell
I swear these guys are bots. Just putting a timestamp of 0:01 in the comments and stating what's happening in the video
The quality is so perfect that I even did not think it is from Greco Roman era
That sculpture of Laocoön and his sons is so exotic and amazing.
I personally seen this statue in the Vatican City during my 2019 trip to Italy. Its nice to know the story of this painful and haunting masterpiece.
I mean... did Poseidon really have to send snakes when everyone is going to get killed anyway?
Great topic. The story of Laocoon is the greatest "I told you so" in Epic Poetry.
One correction...
🐍 🐍 The snakes attacked at the beach, 🏖 from the water , BEFORE the horse 🐴 was pulled into Ilium. Before, not after.
In the Fitzgerald and Pope translations of the Illiad (the only versions I've read) and in all "Epic Cycle" related works referencing this icodent with Lacoon and sons...
It all happened at the beach. By the water... in fact the snakes came across or from in the water in the Fitzgerald version, right?
The title is like one you'd find from an old SNL skit.
The video ends at 5:52 fyi
This artwork moves something deep inside of me!
Please do another History vs its been so long
The animation is beautiful
Is weird to think that this person may have been gone for the code of all of us, with his descendants as gone as him
Thanks
Had a whole class on Laocoon in AP Latin, lot of headshakes and quiet "damns"
Just finished reading Troy by Stephen Fry and then I got recommended this! What a surprise.
The original: "It's a trap!"
They didn't just pull the Trojan Horse through their walls, they had to break the arch of the entry to get it in. It's WILD.
I love the animation style of this!
The Story of The Iliad never gets Old. ❤
I'd like to imagine that he still rubbing his middle finger on the Trojans' face even right now in the after life.
Love your content
This is awesome and useful content thank you
That’s why the lesson : observe and don’t take anyone side !
Learn being happy and peace alone -> that’s the key ! 🔑
I cried of laughter while repeating the word “ I told you so” inside my head and thinking of Laocoon
I think what's so interesting is that Hirohiko Araki the creator of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure says he poses his characters with such extreme poses because one of his main influences are these type of statues
which sea snakes species can stay on land for long hours to hunt on land?
Snakes are reptiles, they don't need to stay in the water, they ain't fishes.
@@antoniousai1989 then why live in sea?
@@auro1986 For the same reason hippos live in rivers. It's an ecological niche which they evolved for. Doesn't mean they die if they don't stay in the water for some time.
Love the vid but y’all NEED to do more riddles
Laocoön really out here like the only guy in a horror movie who actually reads the warnings. Meanwhile, everyone else is busy planning a housewarming party inside the killer doll’s house.
Shoutout to Pliney the Elder. What a great drink.
No good deed goes unpunished. Mankind hasn't changed a bit.
So far no stories from the perspective of those soldiers inside the wooden horse. I badly want to hear some.
I understood very well than other videos 😊
There's a copy of that statue in the art museum in Cork, Ireland. I call it a copy because I'm assuming the original is still in the Vatican. I don't know for certain.
Huh, never knew Michelangelo's last name .
One of my favorite statues in the world, second only to the Dying Gaul ♥
No not the horsey - Somebody In Crowd
This is th first time i came within a day when ted ed posted a video
But they killed Cassandra first 'cause she feared the worst. And tried to tell the town???
Danggg The Documentary the animation All in One Perfect😮🎉
The Trojans believe that it was an offering to Athena for safe travel home and by taking into the walls they were giving themselves that favor into nine the Greeks.
Sure, but probably Laocoon failed to understand how much Trojan culture would be enriched, including the arrival of new and exotic cuisines.
Best Narrator Ever!!!
Always wondered how a seer could be so jacked
Heard about your Bulletproof Vest vid so when can you talk about the evolution of Body Armor?
Like from Metal simple armor during first era of Gunpowders,to WW1 to Kevlar to now?
My first time to hear about Laocoon
You know when your good when your just good
Why were the Greek gods so tempermental smh
Gods reflect their people
On a bright side had Troy not fell, Rome would've never been born.
At least the gods guaranteed that Laocoon’s death would lead to him being remembered for centuries.
I am dissapointed by the lack of any mention of Cassandra. Laocoon may have been the only "guy", but they were not the only person
So the lesson is don’t grass on the gods!
It’s so trippy to think such a intricate piece of art was theoretically around while Jesus was alive
There are plenty of artifacts lying around that date to the beginning of time. People were just better at preserving stuff back then...some good, some not so good.
Why are people talking about Cassandra? Yes she tried to warn them too, we know that. This video is about Lacoon, not her.
How 😭
“I hate to say ‘I told you so,’ but…”
-Laocoon, probably
He should have told them there is gold inside it.
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