P.Diddy told the kids on MTV Making of The Band that if they sign their contracts, that there is no way out. (Dylon, Babs Bunny, Sarah, Teddy P. and Choppa). Teddy P. literally cried after signing that contract, and Sarah Stolkes was very hesitant before signing.
there's a Bad Boy curse, just as there was a No Limit curse (just ask Mystikal), and a Cash Money curse. Anytime there's a clique on a major record label, shit never works out.
This is why the music industry love young talent. Not just because of youthful looks. There is older talent that can wipe the floor with the young talent, but the industry can't get over on older people in the same way. That's why they would rather sign a 19 year old with some talent than a 27 year old who can kill singing or rapping. They smell the young looking for that baby milk a mile away. It's a dirty "business".
I think when Big died Puff started looking at Bad Boy music as a hobby.He didn't have that love for it the same way.After Big died Puff was all about Sean John.Clothes,cologne everything except music.Puff was the remix king.On every mixtape you would hear "Bad Boy Remix" and then a BB artist.The true essence of "Bad Boy"died with BIG.
Diddy didn't steal anything from anybody their lack of knowledge of the music business allowed him to take advantage of them that's their fault it's a hard lesson
@ThinkingAgent12 They sold they records with him. Neither Shyne nor 112 are big crossover artists so in my opinion they did they thing. If you do the research you would see 112 and Shyne DID sell records under him. Most artist do. However just like any other label once your buzz is gone so are you.
Truth of the matter. All artist made more money when with diddy than without. If you were getting 500k while he was getting 5 mill. Now you getting 20k while the other party is still getting that 1000%. Wage the shit out.
GOTTA POINT THERE AND PLUS AT THE END OF THE DAY. YOU AS ARTIST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHER. LABEL OR NOT IF U ARE SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR CAREER. Hey the Lox is still pushing and look how long they been gone from bad boy they have done very well for themselves. Even Total has been doing many reunion shows recently
It doesn't matter if he put them out or stop dealing with them if you are good artist and can make MONEY you would make it with or with out P. Diddy,so i say they need to stop crying!
Damn puff had them from huggin the block to either huggin a cell block or buggin on rock, or Shuggin on knock! shit is so wrong that they all got Toni Braxtoned!
Nice interview with music rapper Sheek Louch of The Lox. Puff Daddy isn't to blame for The Lox, Shyne, Notorious Big(RIP), Craig Mack(RIP), Black Rob(RIP), Faith Evans, 8Ball And MJG leaving Bad Boy records. Bad Boy artists should've paid attention to contracts to see how they will get money. The Lox, Willie D of Geto Boys, Scarface of Geto Boys, Redman, 2Pac Shakur(RIP), Run DMC(RIP Jam Master Jay), Ice Cube of NWA, MC Ren of NWA, Gang Starr(RIP Guru), A Tribe Called Quest(RIP Phife Dawg), Ice T, Foxy Brown is my favorite music rappers.
Like he said Diddy had the most to lose.They was some young hungry cats that signed the deal.Their management team fucked them not Diddy!Their management was suppose to have their backs
Nothing to disagree with.Sheek is stating the obvious to the misinformed who think they getting screwed over.That's what he's saying.Labels are fronting the money to these up and coming artists
He actually gets it unlike Styles and Jada. Diddy dont owe shit. You are what are you sign. Artists and consumers need to boycott these labels of bad business until they get it.
Bro,this jive been happening since Bobby Fuller and Sam Cooke got knocked off in the 60's.Same thing happen to Soldier Slim.Them record comps will do u in when u get to big for yo britches.How many people careers Puffy ended?The only dude who got paid working with Puff was Ric Ross!Dude is a crook,full of greed and hatred.Big was starting to make a name for himself and Puffy was left in the dark.Yeah,it look like they were close,but money makes enemies no matter how close they are!
when bad boy was hot they used to jump in so quick and grab talent first. if you did tell puffy i don't like paragraph this thru that take that out and we got a deal, he would have let your ass walk. dudes hope by being nice to crooks that they get throwed a crumb or two down the road.smh
Good choice of shades. I have the same. Okay to the business. They had lawyers but listening to their managers who were in Puff's pocket. Stupid and young.
Puffy had Big knocked off.Big was about to start his own label and Puffy knew it.Big was the only one got hit,so that let me know it was a direct hit by a hitman.Suge had Pac knocked off.Record companies are some treacherous folks.Thats why Dre and Snoop left.U remember they ask Suge did he see who shot Pac?He said I don't snitch on no one.!He knows who shot Pac,because he ordered the hit...Just like Puffy got Big knocked off.Puffy messed over Shine,Total,Mase,and others....
MGK got alotta energy in his music...and from what i understand a real nice guy, but i dont think he alone can get bad boy on its feet again or make a solid impact on tha game. Now im not sayin MGK is wack, not at all...I like his music, its jus diddy's reputation wit keepin his artists broke is gunna hold MGK back. If he wants a solid career hes gotta get off bad boy
there not indie though, drake is affiliated with cash money, hopsin was on ruthless records for a few years, and there all signed to distribution deals and have hands in the cookie jars. they do have a little more control then other artists though but they all got popular from someone else getting them there and knowing someone
@RalphFee But you dont understand, most artists sell but are gurantteed to drop either one hit or one album at bad boy, that wont happen at most record labels, if you look at the history of most bad boy aritsts, post after! they either dissapear or are bummed out, yes I know that arists have a buzz, but diddy is very good at destroying thiers after.
foreal. 50 cent takes shots at him but idk how he hasnt ben dealt with yet. maybe its the same reason bill cosby, harvey weinstein, r kelly, bryan singer havent been touched yet..
It was Puffy!I bet Sheek know who had Big knocked off.Puffy put a hit on Big's head.Big was getting to big for Bad Boy and Puff was losing him.He probably would have reunited with Pac if it wasn't for Puff all in the way.And I believe Puff had Pac robbed back in 1994 when he was entering the same studio Bad Boy was in.Puff made it look like Big had it set up.Believe what u want,Puff is a killer.Just like Suge had Pac knocked off and had dude take the rap.And homeboy is dead because of Suge...
.You all probably can work it out if you all put in the work.As long as nobody is acting crazy,lol.Jam some Maze,roll a couple of bl-nts,yall sit down,and talk it out.Now,that will be 843.23 for my therapy/counseling session.Visa,MC,accepted,lol!!!
@RalphFee Aint gunna sell shit? alot of these dudes that diddy sign with, sell records but its hes mismanagement of these cats, your saying shyne? and 112 werent good enough to sell records?
Ain't no curse. LOL. It's just business. If you not gonna sell records NO ONE is gonna stand behind you and the simple fact is the artist that aren't down with Puff anymore aren't gonna move units. I like that Sheek is holding his self accountable tho. Real man s**t. On another note I do beats. Drop by my page and check em out. All comments and feedback is appreciated. One!
@ThinkingAgent12 Ok. So u blame PD for destroying they careers? lol. I don't even like dude but people have to man up. 112 had a good 3-4 albums on BB then went to Def Jam. Def Jam! They couldn't do they thing. Had 1 hit at DF. It's like saying Jay destroyed Beans cuz Beans couldn't make a hit after. I love Beans but his time is done. it's not that they destroyed them labels keep you for your shelf life & once your star is dimmed that's it. We not gonna agree on this subject.
He said nothing about GOD, and reading the Bible??? Maybe he has no clue about how Morally corrupt or Satanic the music industry is. I pray for all that thinks it's another answer besides the words made to protect you from the real war out here Good vs Evil the truth came straight from GOD, in the New Testament and Old. "1" Love
they are making money with out him the lox was robbed and r now fighting for what is rightfully there's if anything puff is lucky that he owes them money if not who knows where he would be u don't out someone who still owes u so their not crying there fighting n if u don't believe that they got money go check jada n p's public appearances them niggaz is definitely living better than u they aint rich but they aint barley making they living good
U wanted to be famous and so u were. I don't think anybody should write a contract so that the person doing the bulk of the work walks away with the least amt of money. That's fucked up. Any artist or group pissed that they didnt get their publishing should be mad at their manager, not the label president. How they write dozens of songs, but dont know the business, and get no publishing. Dude, you could've kicked them back a few points and they would've been pleased. So again, fuck being famous, u better know the business you're getting into. ...As puffy's kids walking around in the finest couture and attending the best schools. And your kids are standing in the free lunch line waiting their turn to use the computer at the public library.
I have always like Sheek..
Sheek if you ever read this I named three pitbull after the lox back in like 2000. love yall
Thats awesome
P.Diddy told the kids on MTV Making of The Band that if they sign their contracts, that there is no way out. (Dylon, Babs Bunny, Sarah, Teddy P. and Choppa). Teddy P. literally cried after signing that contract, and Sarah Stolkes was very hesitant before signing.
No Way Out? Wasn't that his 1st album?
Long story short NEVER sign to diddy
there's a Bad Boy curse, just as there was a No Limit curse (just ask Mystikal), and a Cash Money curse. Anytime there's a clique on a major record label, shit never works out.
This is why the music industry love young talent. Not just because of youthful looks. There is older talent that can wipe the floor with the young talent, but the industry can't get over on older people in the same way. That's why they would rather sign a 19 year old with some talent than a 27 year old who can kill singing or rapping. They smell the young looking for that baby milk a mile away. It's a dirty "business".
Real shit tho
I think when Big died Puff started looking at Bad Boy music as a hobby.He didn't have that love for it the same way.After Big died Puff was all about Sean John.Clothes,cologne everything except music.Puff was the remix king.On every mixtape you would hear "Bad Boy Remix" and then a BB artist.The true essence of "Bad Boy"died with BIG.
Er, not really, diddy been killing niggaz careers before Biggy even died. Craig Mack was one of the first to be fucked over by him.
Dealing with Puff is both a gift and a curse...
Sheek is one of the nicest under rated rapper in the game just like styles and kiss
Facts
damn damn damn......dooooooont do it!!!!! Diddy been exchanging deals for cheeks for decades...don't sign a thing for the devil!!!!!!
And go Independent period, fuck mainstream record labels.
Damn I wish Sheek would have went down the list of people they wrote for!!
No, he’s the Barry Gordy of hip hop, look, Everyone is doing Nothing except for puff
I hate when I an artist I like gets signed to BadBoy. That means I probably won't hear more than 1 album from them.
TheFinalGoose Why is there so many "I" in your comment? UA-cam glitch or bad grammar?
Diddy didn't steal anything from anybody their lack of knowledge of the music business allowed him to take advantage of them that's their fault it's a hard lesson
he didnt steal but he cheated and pushed the limit taking chances that he was signing talented but ignorant artists
big973e Huh? If you cheat...then you steal. If he cheated artists out of their money then he stole from them. Bye Felicia!
It's crazy so because your don't know is crazy. We as blackmen should teach each other about the business.
@@sthunda7132 that moron doesnt understand that smfh
@ThinkingAgent12 They sold they records with him. Neither Shyne nor 112 are big crossover artists so in my opinion they did they thing. If you do the research you would see 112 and Shyne DID sell records under him. Most artist do. However just like any other label once your buzz is gone so are you.
*You were little alter boy and Diddy was the Catholic priest*
Puff is not a business man he is a business man
I thought that was Jay-Z's line!
BUSINESS b4 Pleasure!
Truth of the matter. All artist made more money when with diddy than without.
If you were getting 500k while he was getting 5 mill. Now you getting 20k while the other party is still getting that 1000%.
Wage the shit out.
GOTTA POINT THERE AND PLUS AT THE END OF THE DAY. YOU AS ARTIST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHER. LABEL OR NOT IF U ARE SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR CAREER. Hey the Lox is still pushing and look how long they been gone from bad boy they have done very well for themselves. Even Total has been doing many reunion shows recently
It doesn't matter if he put them out or stop dealing with them if you are good artist and can make MONEY you would make it with or with out P. Diddy,so i say they need to stop crying!
Bad Boy is hip-hop's graveyard
P Diddy and the bed boy crew
Stand up dude!
Damn puff had them from huggin the block to either huggin a cell block or buggin on rock, or Shuggin on knock! shit is so wrong that they all got Toni Braxtoned!
whatever happened to mark curry ...dude was nice ..
savoy styles read his book fam. Diddy drained that guy’s energy.
sheek a funny dude.
"im Donald" XD
Nice interview with music rapper Sheek Louch of The Lox. Puff Daddy isn't to blame for The Lox, Shyne, Notorious Big(RIP), Craig Mack(RIP), Black Rob(RIP), Faith Evans, 8Ball And MJG leaving Bad Boy records. Bad Boy artists should've paid attention to contracts to see how they will get money. The Lox, Willie D of Geto Boys, Scarface of Geto Boys, Redman, 2Pac Shakur(RIP), Run DMC(RIP Jam Master Jay), Ice Cube of NWA, MC Ren of NWA, Gang Starr(RIP Guru), A Tribe Called Quest(RIP Phife Dawg), Ice T, Foxy Brown is my favorite music rappers.
Like he said Diddy had the most to lose.They was some young hungry cats that signed the deal.Their management team fucked them not Diddy!Their management was suppose to have their backs
if diddy diodnt think there was an excellent chance he would profit from them he never woulda signed them. so i disagree
Nothing to disagree with.Sheek is stating the obvious to the misinformed who think they getting screwed over.That's what he's saying.Labels are fronting the money to these up and coming artists
He actually gets it unlike Styles and Jada. Diddy dont owe shit. You are what are you sign. Artists and consumers need to boycott these labels of bad business until they get it.
Bro,this jive been happening since Bobby Fuller and Sam Cooke got knocked off in the 60's.Same thing happen to Soldier Slim.Them record comps will do u in when u get to big for yo britches.How many people careers Puffy ended?The only dude who got paid working with Puff was Ric Ross!Dude is a crook,full of greed and hatred.Big was starting to make a name for himself and Puffy was left in the dark.Yeah,it look like they were close,but money makes enemies no matter how close they are!
when bad boy was hot they used to jump in so quick and grab talent first. if you did tell puffy i don't like paragraph this thru that take that out and we got a deal, he would have let your ass walk. dudes hope by being nice to crooks that they get throwed a crumb or two down the road.smh
you'd never know if you didn't try. Businessmen like smart guys. But like to keep them in check too
Vlad TV was around in 2010?
Business is Business Diddy Is A Businessman...
why in the sane hell would the lox go back to that snake i have zero respect for them for this
Good choice of shades. I have the same. Okay to the business. They had lawyers but listening to their managers who were in Puff's pocket. Stupid and young.
This why Q from day 26 was going crazy .. he was broke !!
Puffy had Big knocked off.Big was about to start his own label and Puffy knew it.Big was the only one got hit,so that let me know it was a direct hit by a hitman.Suge had Pac knocked off.Record companies are some treacherous folks.Thats why Dre and Snoop left.U remember they ask Suge did he see who shot Pac?He said I don't snitch on no one.!He knows who shot Pac,because he ordered the hit...Just like Puffy got Big knocked off.Puffy messed over Shine,Total,Mase,and others....
Calling out all good mc's that can do video battles
you in the world you cant come over here but u focused. lol
MGK got alotta energy in his music...and from what i understand a real nice guy, but i dont think he alone can get bad boy on its feet again or make a solid impact on tha game. Now im not sayin MGK is wack, not at all...I like his music, its jus diddy's reputation wit keepin his artists broke is gunna hold MGK back. If he wants a solid career hes gotta get off bad boy
why cant jada and styles be like this? learn life.
there not indie though, drake is affiliated with cash money, hopsin was on ruthless records for a few years, and there all signed to distribution deals and have hands in the cookie jars. they do have a little more control then other artists though but they all got popular from someone else getting them there and knowing someone
The others cant get their publishing back because it was an exchange for the cheaks
I always thought wheel was the real goon of the lox
dont trust tht business man
@RalphFee But you dont understand, most artists sell but are gurantteed to drop either one hit or one album at bad boy, that wont happen at most record labels, if you look at the history of most bad boy aritsts, post after! they either dissapear or are bummed out, yes I know that arists have a buzz, but diddy is very good at destroying thiers after.
What beat is DAT playing tho its hard?
it's a DJ Premier beat for Termanology. The hook goes "This is why I'm Hot" but he scratches it from 2-3 different songs
Terminology ft. Bun B - This is how we rock (prod. DJ Premier)
If Diddy is such a bad person, then why haven’t anyone touched Diddy yet?
foreal. 50 cent takes shots at him but idk how he hasnt ben dealt with yet. maybe its the same reason bill cosby, harvey weinstein, r kelly, bryan singer havent been touched yet..
Money and power. It’s like saying if the pope is so bad, why ain’t nobody touched him? Not easy to get to these people
Diddy has power …. Just like afrika Bambatta… nobody got rid of AB EITHER BECAUSE THEY SCARED
Because he has 💰 smh!
DONNY......REAL G SHIT....
Lol. You got that right.
@RalphFee yup its MUSIC BUSINESS
MUsic+ business
if u dont sell record why keep u
It was Puffy!I bet Sheek know who had Big knocked off.Puffy put a hit on Big's head.Big was getting to big for Bad Boy and Puff was losing him.He probably would have reunited with Pac if it wasn't for Puff all in the way.And I believe Puff had Pac robbed back in 1994 when he was entering the same studio Bad Boy was in.Puff made it look like Big had it set up.Believe what u want,Puff is a killer.Just like Suge had Pac knocked off and had dude take the rap.And homeboy is dead because of Suge...
.You all probably can work it out if you all put in the work.As long as nobody is acting crazy,lol.Jam some Maze,roll a couple of bl-nts,yall sit down,and talk it out.Now,that will be 843.23 for my therapy/counseling session.Visa,MC,accepted,lol!!!
@RalphFee Aint gunna sell shit? alot of these dudes that diddy sign with, sell records but its hes mismanagement of these cats, your saying shyne? and 112 werent good enough to sell records?
Ain't no curse. LOL. It's just business. If you not gonna sell records NO ONE is gonna stand behind you and the simple fact is the artist that aren't down with Puff anymore aren't gonna move units. I like that Sheek is holding his self accountable tho. Real man s**t. On another note I do beats. Drop by my page and check em out. All comments and feedback is appreciated. One!
@ThinkingAgent12 Ok. So u blame PD for destroying they careers? lol. I don't even like dude but people have to man up. 112 had a good 3-4 albums on BB then went to Def Jam. Def Jam! They couldn't do they thing. Had 1 hit at DF. It's like saying Jay destroyed Beans cuz Beans couldn't make a hit after. I love Beans but his time is done. it's not that they destroyed them labels keep you for your shelf life & once your star is dimmed that's it. We not gonna agree on this subject.
oh shyne,i heard his jewish now.
He said nothing about GOD, and reading the Bible??? Maybe he has no clue about how Morally corrupt or Satanic the music industry is. I pray for all that thinks it's another answer besides the words made to protect you from the real war out here Good vs Evil the truth came straight from GOD, in the New Testament and Old. "1" Love
they are making money with out him the lox was robbed and r now fighting for what is rightfully there's if anything puff is lucky that he owes them money if not who knows where he would be u don't out someone who still owes u so their not crying there fighting n if u don't believe that they got money go check jada n p's public appearances them niggaz is definitely living better than u they aint rich but they aint barley making they living good
Don't sign it..stay indie
I guess they are all broke NOW ,that's why they are crying!!!
Vlad a fed! Foh
lmfao
U wanted to be famous and so u were. I don't think anybody should write a contract so that the person doing the bulk of the work walks away with the least amt of money. That's fucked up. Any artist or group pissed that they didnt get their publishing should be mad at their manager, not the label president. How they write dozens of songs, but dont know the business, and get no publishing. Dude, you could've kicked them back a few points and they would've been pleased. So again, fuck being famous, u better know the business you're getting into. ...As puffy's kids walking around in the finest couture and attending the best schools. And your kids are standing in the free lunch line waiting their turn to use the computer at the public library.
D
loooooool