While performance graphs for aircraft are something that those of us who are pilots are very familiar with I don't know if that would benefit the general population of players. However, providing a table or listing or graph of the aircraft's performance based on modules unlocked could be useful to players. That would help set expectations and motivate them to unlock those modules.
They always remove them and then later add them back for GE, but you have to wait new cycles for them to go on sale again. So stupid. I got the M-51 as it was $15 with premium time and GEs.
@Debate_Pervert my man, I'm not native speaker, so it's difficult for me to spot the exact name of techs. Besides, my recommendation would be beneficial for whole auditory in case someone forgot or didn't know about some exact vehicle.
Kind of surprised they are removing something like the P-16 since it just came in and with limited Premiums at that BR. Glad I got the A6, A5, and ZTZ on sales the last few months. Both the A5-C and ZTZ96A has been amazing. Between the A5-C and J7-D, I've gotten my China Air Tree to Tier 6 and that's just using them in Arcade and running them like every 10th game I did for US or USSR
Coincidentally, I just did my first battle with that same exact A-5C/ZTZ 96 A (P) combo. I’ve yet to figure out if it’s a good combo, and I find it unfortunate the T-80UD/BE is 10.7 and upsets the BR for the premium pair.
P-16 didn't sell well, very few people bought that. It's collectors item, doesn't make any sense as a pack. Squadron Hunter F58 is infinitely better at same BR, you can just talisman it and research Germany in no time because it's so OP.
@@qltcnit’s a crime to have a plane with missiles that good and 60 countermeasures fight planes that either can’t turn, don’t have missiles or no countermeasures at all. But then give Italians a Romanian plane with 4 aim9B, slower and no countermeasures at higher BR than it. And people say Russian bias never mention the broken Swiss hunter
I REALLY hope that I don't have to get the F-84 now. I'm grinding Japan and already halfway through the research of F-104J before the update and since then, I didn't look at it
Nothing was put in front of the 104J the Thai F-84 was put over underneath the Ki-83 and the A-7E and AV-8S were put between the F-1 and the F-16AJ you might need the 84 to get access to the Alpha jets to get access to the rank the F-4EJ is in though
I'm researching F-1. Going down that line to get F-16AJ to get the research bonus for having top vehicle for Air. Now they put A-7E in the way. Have the squadron vehicle researched, so previously I would be able to unlock Rank VIII, but now I guess I need FOUR vehicles to unlock Rank VIII, so will need to grind F-4EJ as well. Grrrrr
Does anyone remember if you only needed one Rank 7 plane to unlock Rank 8 when the Thai fighters were added? I remember it being that way but when I got the F-5E on the 10th, requirements changed to 3 Rank 6.
@@MJA-0330 Maybe I was too lucky cuz I spaded the first two without using all free repairs, didn't see almost any missiles but yeah, they're objectively overtiered, most people say that for a reason and what I said it's JUST my case Contrary with what I experienced with the ki 83, everyone told me it was amazing but I just passed it before spading
@@tezbertzero1915 The matchmaker is the problem at 8.0 sometimes you see 8.7 and even 9.0 not to mention you are always the slowest jet in the match. Even 6.7 jets can out pace the R2s
+respect for attempting to pull the marder to safety, even though he didn't turn on his winch. i actually tried to do that to an ally recently but we still died.
You know I was actually going to pick up that Swiss aircraft that was in the German tree, but when I found out it was removed, I was like (what was the point of adding it then?), I've always wondered that what is the point of adding in these premium aircraft but then deciding to remove it from the game?, I mean one of the examples I could think of would be the he-219 that's been in the game for years and then all of a sudden they removed, that and thank God I picked it up when I did because Lord knows when it's going to be back on sale, same thing with the Chinese mig-17f.
What needs a change is the Israeli line only 2 10.0s🤦🏾♂️ the Namer 30 and AA Like what I'm I supposed to do with this yeah the Namer 30 is cool but I would also like to use an MBT
9:00 was it always one Rank 7 to unlock Rank 8? If not, I think Gaijin may have made a small update of changing that requirement to needing three Rank 6 because on the 10th I got the F-5E and I wasn't eligible to unlock Rank 8
You didn't have to research F-4EJ at all to get to rank 8 F-16AJ before they added Thai vehicles. Soon I'll have to grind the whole 3rd line from the start, and also A-7 and AV-8S at rank 7 just to get those two remaining F-15s And F-4EJ-Kai. This is ridiculous. Also, I hope they will switch the placeholder F-16AJ, which Japan never had, with F-2 in the future, so I don't have to do everything described above just so it's not red and unavailable even if I already have the F-16, but rank 8 is technically locked.
@@baykazdal I know right, but as some mod has already stated, that F-16 is in the tech tree just because F-2 was too modern for the state of the game at that time, F-15 was still in development, but Japan needed a plane to not fall behind in capabilities, when everyone and their dog was receiving their own F-16 or MiG-29, so they added it as a placeholder. Let's see if F-2 will be a standalone plane, or they'll just switch it like they did with chinese PT-76B and Object 211
@@Madoyon. They probably just going to pull a MAUS move on it and remove the plane , only those who have will keep it. So when that shiny new F-2 will come out you can grind 460k exp for it or spend 10k GE ;)
i feel like there's an outbreak of virus right now, because a lot of people fell sick after new year, including me, my brother and my friend that lived 600km from me, and then some of content creator got sick too
it's not a virus come on dude people get sick now commonly it's literally winter so it's cold if it was idk summer then that would be very weird but in winter? tht's normal my guy if it was a virus it would be popular almost everywhere so stop waffling because it's not an virus lma i'm even sick and it's because it's winter smh not because of some "virus" plus atleast comment something related to the video lmao this is a video about war thunder not this
what do you think about adding the J35s (finnish named J35xs) to the normal tech tree with its R-13M‘s? tried making a post about it on the war thunder forum but i guess they are picky about posts and removed it.
I was gonna get the P-16 eventually, I just had other stuff I wanted to play out before. Not sure why they would remove it already, didn’t even get to test drive it.
It was a dick move to dump all these Thai planes at once. Like what the actual fk? I was on my to unlock top vehicle F-16AJ there. Had Rank VIII unlocked with a squadron vehicle, but still have to unlock Rank VII. Now not top vehicle bonus for me for air for longer time. It's very annoying.
Israeli tech tree argument doesn't really work. You can always just get rank 4 usa or france or britain, and play it for free. But if a person can't wait 1 month and need to play Israel straight away, once they buy F84 at rank 6 (which is basically rank 5 vehicle in terms of BR anyway), they get to purchase Sakeen too, and could just play that. So regardless no one forces new players to play high level premium. They either play 1 month and unlock tech tree naturally, or pay to unlock immediately.
9:13 HaHaHa Gaijin give us leeway come on who are you kidding. You are giving Gaijin to much Leeway and hope that you think Gaijin would give us when we all know Gaijin isn't ever gong to throw us player a bone. Gaijin says one thing N does another. Would be great if they actually gave us something to look forward to. Even something like REALLY slow down on giving constant up tier battles 8 or 9 times outta 10 .... (talking about AirRB) Ah don't know why i even bother wasting the last braincells I got left on thinking gaijin would make a positive move in are benefit. I mean simple things where they would REALLY look at Air RB battles and BR's becaus there still is so many aircraft that shouldn't even be seeing things like ALL-Aspect-Missiles. Also, even make it to where if you are a stock aircraft you wouldn't even get chances of facing things like all aspect or do something like if your stock give a certain amount of games where you stay at the same BR battles for 5 or 6 games"giving more then it should be" so you can get threw the first 2 rows or 3 rows so you can at least give players that might not have skill they need to face against Typhoons or F-15s/Mig-29s etc etc.. Like for example the the Hunter F.6 I remember when that jet was a monster and aircraft it faced most of them couldn't even catch the thing. So now the jet faces all aspect missiles and it doesn't even carry countermeasures. So good luck trying to dodge any all aspect missiles it has to face or even radar missiles. Sorry about the book 🥴
Israel should not get rank 1,2,3 because at rank 1 you get many early world war two vechicles and pre war vechciles and Israel didn't parcitipate in world war two so it should be how it but imo it should start at rank V because at rank IV you figth vechicles from the end of world war two which is unfair cuz the M-51 was used after that time like in the six day war which was def not during that time
Always interesting what will happen with tech trees who lose their premiums. Israel is the next question mark
While performance graphs for aircraft are something that those of us who are pilots are very familiar with I don't know if that would benefit the general population of players.
However, providing a table or listing or graph of the aircraft's performance based on modules unlocked could be useful to players. That would help set expectations and motivate them to unlock those modules.
Feel better, no fun being sick.
Thai F-16 review when, that thing doesn’t belong at 13.7 but 13.3 should be good
It's pretty serious. The whole world is being attacked by metapneumovirus and mycoplasma, but no one takes them seriously.
Oh hello tim!
Do you think they could potentially be removing these vehicles to make room for “vehicle packs” like the Two Fronts Pack?
Or maybe put into the tech tree? (Didn't watched the video yet, I just speculate)
Could be both, some older GE prems are relatively overpriced so it would make sense to put them in packs or in the techtree
They always remove them and then later add them back for GE, but you have to wait new cycles for them to go on sale again. So stupid. I got the M-51 as it was $15 with premium time and GEs.
I wish we got an option to choose the classic stat card pictures or the 3D image :(
Could you please add images of vehicles you talking about?
Type it into the search bar on your phone or PC and click on images. This always works for me.
@Debate_Pervert my man, I'm not native speaker, so it's difficult for me to spot the exact name of techs. Besides, my recommendation would be beneficial for whole auditory in case someone forgot or didn't know about some exact vehicle.
@@yagurakun2419would take longer to edit the video but would be nice!
@yagurakun2419 alright. I guess I'll allow it. Please put in images of the vehicles you're talking about.
I'm just jerkin your chain a bit. Lol😜
Kind of surprised they are removing something like the P-16 since it just came in and with limited Premiums at that BR. Glad I got the A6, A5, and ZTZ on sales the last few months. Both the A5-C and ZTZ96A has been amazing. Between the A5-C and J7-D, I've gotten my China Air Tree to Tier 6 and that's just using them in Arcade and running them like every 10th game I did for US or USSR
Coincidentally, I just did my first battle with that same exact A-5C/ZTZ 96 A (P) combo. I’ve yet to figure out if it’s a good combo, and I find it unfortunate the T-80UD/BE is 10.7 and upsets the BR for the premium pair.
P-16 didn't sell well, very few people bought that. It's collectors item, doesn't make any sense as a pack. Squadron Hunter F58 is infinitely better at same BR, you can just talisman it and research Germany in no time because it's so OP.
@@qltcn prob gonna be back as GE
@@qltcnit’s a crime to have a plane with missiles that good and 60 countermeasures fight planes that either can’t turn, don’t have missiles or no countermeasures at all. But then give Italians a Romanian plane with 4 aim9B, slower and no countermeasures at higher BR than it. And people say Russian bias never mention the broken Swiss hunter
Im glad i got the premium M51 when the Israeli tree was first added
I REALLY hope that I don't have to get the F-84 now. I'm grinding Japan and already halfway through the research of F-104J before the update and since then, I didn't look at it
Nothing was put in front of the 104J the Thai F-84 was put over underneath the Ki-83 and the A-7E and AV-8S were put between the F-1 and the F-16AJ you might need the 84 to get access to the Alpha jets to get access to the rank the F-4EJ is in though
IDK, I started grinding Japan only for the R2Y2s, got all three of them and halfway to the F84, no idea about it I just like how it looks lol
I'm researching F-1. Going down that line to get F-16AJ to get the research bonus for having top vehicle for Air. Now they put A-7E in the way. Have the squadron vehicle researched, so previously I would be able to unlock Rank VIII, but now I guess I need FOUR vehicles to unlock Rank VIII, so will need to grind F-4EJ as well. Grrrrr
Does anyone remember if you only needed one Rank 7 plane to unlock Rank 8 when the Thai fighters were added? I remember it being that way but when I got the F-5E on the 10th, requirements changed to 3 Rank 6.
@ I just said this in the comment before you. Yes, you just needed ONE plane to unlock Rank VIII before they added Thai planes.
The devs mentioned in the last dev stream that the R2Y2 will be going away for good a bit after the Tai vehicles get added so
Yeah grinded those during the winter event
@@BillKillerz Same, don't regret anything such good vehicles tho, no idea why people say they suck imo
@@tezbertzero1915They used to be 7.3 and actually somewhat competitive now they get fed to early air to air missiles
@@MJA-0330 Maybe I was too lucky cuz I spaded the first two without using all free repairs, didn't see almost any missiles but yeah, they're objectively overtiered, most people say that for a reason and what I said it's JUST my case
Contrary with what I experienced with the ki 83, everyone told me it was amazing but I just passed it before spading
@@tezbertzero1915 The matchmaker is the problem at 8.0 sometimes you see 8.7 and even 9.0 not to mention you are always the slowest jet in the match. Even 6.7 jets can out pace the R2s
I also have the flu rn, hope you‘ll feel better soon!
2:40 dry mass in card.
it's sad to hear that you are sick i hope you can get better very soon
+respect for attempting to pull the marder to safety, even though he didn't turn on his winch.
i actually tried to do that to an ally recently but we still died.
Why do they remove vehicles? Is it because of pick rates? I got the A-6 during the summer sale bc it’s one of my favorite planes.
Where are the battle pass leaks story boy
Look the Roadmap that Snail releases before every battle pass....Oh that's right. WE DON'T GET A ROADMAP!!!! Thanks GuyJizz. 😤
You know I was actually going to pick up that Swiss aircraft that was in the German tree, but when I found out it was removed, I was like (what was the point of adding it then?), I've always wondered that what is the point of adding in these premium aircraft but then deciding to remove it from the game?, I mean one of the examples I could think of would be the he-219 that's been in the game for years and then all of a sudden they removed, that and thank God I picked it up when I did because Lord knows when it's going to be back on sale, same thing with the Chinese mig-17f.
Why isn’t the sav20.12 back ? Its Swedish arms force day isn’t it
I think the last time, they said it’s the last time it coming back
Nothing is a guarantee
@@itsericzhou bro I hope not
@@Emojj44 hope it never comes back XD i bought it and its so OP
@@keanestewart4837 😭
Don't sweat it. Get well, then worry^^ Love from germany.
What needs a change is the Israeli line only 2 10.0s🤦🏾♂️ the Namer 30 and AA Like what I'm I supposed to do with this yeah the Namer 30 is cool but I would also like to use an MBT
I have the Weizmann spitfire, the f104s, and the a5 already so I’m fixing to have some rare vehicles!
Get better Mister and thanks for your advice and videos.
Was actually considering the ZTZ96 and A-5 but just noticed they’re gone
Stay positive your not dying, thats what i try and think when im sick. WarThunder!
9:00 was it always one Rank 7 to unlock Rank 8? If not, I think Gaijin may have made a small update of changing that requirement to needing three Rank 6 because on the 10th I got the F-5E and I wasn't eligible to unlock Rank 8
get well soon TEC
You didn't have to research F-4EJ at all to get to rank 8 F-16AJ before they added Thai vehicles. Soon I'll have to grind the whole 3rd line from the start, and also A-7 and AV-8S at rank 7 just to get those two remaining F-15s And F-4EJ-Kai. This is ridiculous.
Also, I hope they will switch the placeholder F-16AJ, which Japan never had, with F-2 in the future, so I don't have to do everything described above just so it's not red and unavailable even if I already have the F-16, but rank 8 is technically locked.
The F-2 is a whole different plane though as it is larger,better radar, weapon suit (ARM) and updated avionics
@@baykazdal I know right, but as some mod has already stated, that F-16 is in the tech tree just because F-2 was too modern for the state of the game at that time, F-15 was still in development, but Japan needed a plane to not fall behind in capabilities, when everyone and their dog was receiving their own F-16 or MiG-29, so they added it as a placeholder. Let's see if F-2 will be a standalone plane, or they'll just switch it like they did with chinese PT-76B and Object 211
@@Madoyon. They probably just going to pull a MAUS move on it and remove the plane , only those who have will keep it.
So when that shiny new F-2 will come out you can grind 460k exp for it or spend 10k GE ;)
really upset the i missed the ztz. i was JUST about to start grinding that tree.
Get better soon my fellow warthunderer
Get well soon!
i feel like there's an outbreak of virus right now, because a lot of people fell sick after new year, including me, my brother and my friend that lived 600km from me, and then some of content creator got sick too
It's cold and flu season, nothing new.
ok
@@SilvaDreams yep
it's not a virus come on dude people get sick now commonly it's literally winter so it's cold if it was idk summer then that would be very weird but in winter? tht's normal my guy if it was a virus it would be popular almost everywhere so stop waffling because it's not an virus lma i'm even sick and it's because it's winter smh not because of some "virus" plus atleast comment something related to the video lmao this is a video about war thunder not this
No info on the next battle pass by now is nuts.
what do you think about adding the J35s (finnish named J35xs) to the normal tech tree with its R-13M‘s? tried making a post about it on the war thunder forum but i guess they are picky about posts and removed it.
No EEGS for the Kfir C10?
I want VRCC back
I was gonna get the P-16 eventually, I just had other stuff I wanted to play out before. Not sure why they would remove it already, didn’t even get to test drive it.
Sounds like they are going to be releasing more premiums to (hopefully) replace the ones they took out.
Hope you get better
Get well soon !!!
It was a dick move to dump all these Thai planes at once. Like what the actual fk? I was on my to unlock top vehicle F-16AJ there. Had Rank VIII unlocked with a squadron vehicle, but still have to unlock Rank VII. Now not top vehicle bonus for me for air for longer time. It's very annoying.
they got rid of the italian P40 prem tank also
Waiting for the next vehicle update and hope its the stingray
I’m happy that have my 9.7 Israeli completed
Israeli tech tree argument doesn't really work. You can always just get rank 4 usa or france or britain, and play it for free. But if a person can't wait 1 month and need to play Israel straight away, once they buy F84 at rank 6 (which is basically rank 5 vehicle in terms of BR anyway), they get to purchase Sakeen too, and could just play that. So regardless no one forces new players to play high level premium. They either play 1 month and unlock tech tree naturally, or pay to unlock immediately.
Normal Israeli top tier spaa when
I dont know how you spot anything in RB i cant see shit all the time
Called experience.
Knowing which way people rush caps.
Know the place to get the best views..
Good clickbait thought the chinu2 was hidden :D
9:13 HaHaHa Gaijin give us leeway come on who are you kidding. You are giving Gaijin to much Leeway and hope that you think Gaijin would give us when we all know Gaijin isn't ever gong to throw us player a bone. Gaijin says one thing N does another. Would be great if they actually gave us something to look forward to. Even something like REALLY slow down on giving constant up tier battles 8 or 9 times outta 10 .... (talking about AirRB)
Ah don't know why i even bother wasting the last braincells I got left on thinking gaijin would make a positive move in are benefit. I mean simple things where they would REALLY look at Air RB battles and BR's becaus there still is so many aircraft that shouldn't even be seeing things like ALL-Aspect-Missiles. Also, even make it to where if you are a stock aircraft you wouldn't even get chances of facing things like all aspect or do something like if your stock give a certain amount of games where you stay at the same BR battles for 5 or 6 games"giving more then it should be" so you can get threw the first 2 rows or 3 rows so you can at least give players that might not have skill they need to face against Typhoons or F-15s/Mig-29s etc etc..
Like for example the the Hunter F.6 I remember when that jet was a monster and aircraft it faced most of them couldn't even catch the thing. So now the jet faces all aspect missiles and it doesn't even carry countermeasures. So good luck trying to dodge any all aspect missiles it has to face or even radar missiles.
Sorry about the book 🥴
Israel should not get rank 1,2,3 because at rank 1 you get many early world war two vechicles and pre war vechciles and Israel didn't parcitipate in world war two so it should be how it but imo it should start at rank V because at rank IV you figth vechicles from the end of world war two which is unfair cuz the M-51 was used after that time like in the six day war which was def not during that time
no views in 36 seconds bro fell off
Wow i'm the top 5 lol
ok no backups so lower the price?
Honestly, who cares about the Israeli tech tree.
I do
Really good tanks and nice tree.
Meteor nf13 and A4n ayit would like a word