FEIXIAO Changes & Possible Builds! Is she more worth it to pull NOW?? | Honkai Star Rail

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  • @VyrussGG
    @VyrussGG 4 місяці тому +42

    I have a theory that Hoyo builds their characters with a gacha system too. They rerolled her speed substats and got unlucky with defense but ran with it anyways

  • @ballistic2527
    @ballistic2527 4 місяці тому +96

    The 12.5 def trace change is dogshit. I hate it when they do that. Legit makes me wanna skip

    • @vintagetimmy1893
      @vintagetimmy1893 4 місяці тому +6

      Its so stupid, like Hoyo plz stop!

    • @Ammar-nn8on
      @Ammar-nn8on 4 місяці тому +3

      The moment i pull for yunli (yunli lc next rerun), i skip feixiao. I know she strong but... This update change my opinion

    • @lamp6909
      @lamp6909 4 місяці тому +6

      honestly flat def needs to get removed from mihoyo games. nobody needs it, nobody wants it, so why keep it? Def% on characters who don't scale off def makes no sense, especially when you know you've made a game where healers and shielders are consistently meta

    • @dazzle810
      @dazzle810 4 місяці тому +3

      @@lamp6909 the only time i see def% useful on characters who dont scale are for people like yunli and clara since theyre meant to get hit a lot, but as feixiao is a hunt and just dies if hit i doubt shes supposed to be getting hit a lot

    • @ValentinoNicko
      @ValentinoNicko 4 місяці тому +1

      This. I mean her kit is okay for now, but then another DPS unit will came without stupid 12 def trace, makes you rethink why you even pull Feixiao in the first place.
      It is like the slap in the face for someone who wants to pulls her.

  • @ayusha480
    @ayusha480 4 місяці тому +44

    Thanks for adding your own captions to the video! It's a small thing but has a huge impact. Keep up the good work :)

  • @vanessab6125
    @vanessab6125 4 місяці тому +83

    Do I need Feixiao? Certainly not, I have enough dps characters at high investment. That said, I mostly pull charcters that I really like and I actually really want Moze. And If I do get Feixiao, I won't complain because I will be able to use those two together.

    • @Friday-p13
      @Friday-p13 4 місяці тому +9

      Exactly! Having well built DPSs gives player the luxury to pull for the character they want. Good thing I liked Acheron and Firefly so pulling them was a no brainer. Characters I needed and wanted. Gonna pull for Jiaoqiu because I want him and if possible I'll pull Sparkle but still highly unlikely because she's not of much use to me. i'll wait for a version who has 100% AV and also being sp positive.

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому +3

      Nothing wrong with that. At this point, many of us have flushed out accounts and just want what's fun.

    • @noahi.1381
      @noahi.1381 4 місяці тому

      Same here lmao 😂

    • @BasementBubbatunde
      @BasementBubbatunde 4 місяці тому +2

      I want her because of wind and that type is fighting for its life.. but at the same time my best team is literally firefly so I kinda already have a universal team, and I own archeron and sw too
      Man why she gotta be so pretty with such a cool ult

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому

      Moze English voice actor is a predator. Lol

  • @0v_x0
    @0v_x0 4 місяці тому +9

    54% def ignore on a light cone is actually wild, that's a whole ass Silver Wolf ultimate

  • @soulofalbedo
    @soulofalbedo 4 місяці тому +78

    worth noting, most people seem to not actually understand her new e2 because of the wording. its an additional point on top of the .5, due to the extra talent per turn she ends up almost the same level of total stack generation as previous e2. She can, in fact, still get the same number of ults in a cycle. compiled with her general buff to her output and her e1 being a significant buff (also it will improve due to her ult is meant to be able to work like argenti's where she can do a 12 hit version according to leaks). her performance at current e2 is still stronger currently than v1/2 e2.

    • @victornunes1686
      @victornunes1686 4 місяці тому +5

      no way, she uses FUA once per HER turn, the previous e2 would give lots os stacks if topaz and numby in a row

    • @soulofalbedo
      @soulofalbedo 4 місяці тому +4

      @@victornunes1686 it works for both of her follow ups per action.

    • @MrFuzzemz
      @MrFuzzemz 4 місяці тому

      @@soulofalbedo doesn't she have like 1 followup per turn when she uses a skill now?

    • @MrFuzzemz
      @MrFuzzemz 4 місяці тому +1

      @@soulofalbedo ok i looked at it again, i think i got confused. so now she has 2 follow-ups per her turn right? 1 from her skill, and 1 from her talent that is procced when an ally attacks?

    • @Junirules360
      @Junirules360 4 місяці тому +3

      @@MrFuzzemz 1 follow up after skill and one more after another character hits
      in just 1 turn she can get 2 stacks (skill + followup = 1 then + 1 more from e2)
      In 2 turns she can get 3/4 (previous 2 stacks + 1 more E2 stack after an ally attacks + 1 more stack after an ally follow up attack hits)
      tldr she is making up for the 2 extra stacks that a topaz and numby combo would provide pretty nicely

  • @specterxp8447
    @specterxp8447 4 місяці тому +45

    For me at least I'll wait till her final version even though her main team with moze looks fun but I'll decide then since I'm also kinda interested in summoning for Jiaqiuo since hes seems like pretty versatile support enabling quite a few teams that i have access to like Dr Ratio without topaz,dot and would give me a reason to summon for Acheron since I didn't summon for her cause I didn't really like how somewhat slow her stacks generation was at e0 at least with the trial version.

    • @Axset02
      @Axset02 4 місяці тому

      V3 is not her final version?

    • @specterxp8447
      @specterxp8447 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Axset02 I don't remember if there's an exact fixed amount of versions that all characters must go through the beta but from what I remember at least as an example Firefly went through 5 versions of her kits and the one that we have right now is V5 which I think was her final version in the 2.3 beta but normally the final version tends to be done around the next Livestream/the final days of the final banner of each version before the new update drops.

    • @dazzle810
      @dazzle810 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Axset02I think it goes to v5

    • @islamsalimzhanov4399
      @islamsalimzhanov4399 4 місяці тому +6

      @@Axset02 v5 is last but it is uncommon to have gameplay changes it that point.

    • @Axset02
      @Axset02 4 місяці тому +2

      @@islamsalimzhanov4399 oh ok thx guys for the reply✌️

  • @Reubenaut
    @Reubenaut 4 місяці тому +6

    I wonder if anyone has done the math for eagle set for her. Her obvious bis is the new fua set but with her plenty of atk boosts would the wind dmg bonus and the ultimate action advance actually give comparable damage to the current set

  • @forgottenmessiah
    @forgottenmessiah 4 місяці тому +23

    We had the same thing for Firefly, they called her mid and she is T0 now. And it's something silly maybe but the fact that her ult icon is special just like Acheron, which is also a T0 character, just wait for the official release, i am sure she won't be bad as people think, actually i think she would be T0,5 at least.

    • @Ravnesss
      @Ravnesss 4 місяці тому +10

      No. We live in a age where we are mad about things that aren't released yet.

    • @ValentinoNicko
      @ValentinoNicko 4 місяці тому +1

      Firefly was mid in beta until revamp, so the mid still valid.

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 4 місяці тому +2

      Were you around for Acheron? People doomposted the hell out of her. There were essentially two groups, one saying she would be meta defining and the other saying she would be mid/bad.

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@ValentinoNicko Dude...they literally pointed out that until a character hits live, we don't know if they are mid or meta defining. Firefly ended up being the second character to enter "BUSTED" status.

    • @ValentinoNicko
      @ValentinoNicko 4 місяці тому

      @@Osprey1994 she was called mid during beta, the revamp makes forum rejoice about her kit. I was there following the forum. Firefly literally breaks the pull in Hoyoverse due to kit + story reason.

  • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
    @PenguinWithInternetAccess 4 місяці тому +12

    I was gonna pull for her anyway cause she looks sick and I love fuA ngl (although the leaked reruns are rough too lol)

    • @o0ugi860
      @o0ugi860 4 місяці тому

      What are the reruns

    • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
      @PenguinWithInternetAccess 4 місяці тому

      @@o0ugi860
      Apparently (as always we can't be too sure) it would be Black Swan Kafka and Robin

    • @CJ._EXE._
      @CJ._EXE._ 4 місяці тому +1

      @@PenguinWithInternetAccess How is these rough reruns lol Kafka, BS are one the best teams in the game. And I don't think we need to talk about how good Robin is

    • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
      @PenguinWithInternetAccess 4 місяці тому

      @CJ._EXE._
      Yeah they're great that's the issue I want them all (already have Robin but not her lightcone)

    • @CJ._EXE._
      @CJ._EXE._ 4 місяці тому

      @@PenguinWithInternetAccess Ohh makes sense. I just need Robin

  • @fadedmogli5179
    @fadedmogli5179 4 місяці тому +2

    im completely lost on the calcs for baptism vs stellar cruise. the base crit stat value for stellar is 12% higher sure but since baptism is gonna have way higher up time on the rest of its passive, how on earth is it not way stronger? you only have to ult vs needing half health and a kill plus its not like the extra 16% crit rate is really gonna effect much so its 40% attack vs 36% dmg and 24% def ignore.

  • @pralenkaman8105
    @pralenkaman8105 4 місяці тому +11

    Ok I really don't understand this thing around feixiao
    She will power creep ratio, ratio is one of the best characters right now due to the follow up meta early in the 2.X version, she will be good no matter how you look at it. She can clear MoC12 0 cycle with her signature and no eidolons in the beta showcases ever since V1, her eidolons got slightly nerfed, but they are still very strong, her kit got revamped and while I think it took a bit of the personality out of the ult it's still a buff all around, her speed got nerfed but that only means we have to build speed boots instead of atk boots, she got an atk buff f 50% in her kit, which is better than the 43% you get from atk boots so this trade off isn't bad, it even gives her some free defense, makes sense lore wise.... kinda, not as much as speed, but being a general you can see defense being important
    All around Feixiao will be the single target version of acheron, she will be amazing for MoC and AS and, as a hunt character she will not thrive in PF
    Moral of the story, this is exactly what happened with acheron and firefly, the meta defining characters of this version, people thought they were underwhelming or not free to play friendly and they ended up being the best characters of their patch and you bet they will be the very best up until the very end of 2.X, this is exactly what will happen with feixiao, again she will be the character that power creeps ratio, one of the best characters already in hsr due to his synergie with robin and topaz

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому +3

      Bro totally forgot about Boothill that already power crept Ratio. lol Boothill also claps the hell out of Feixiao too. It's funny seeing all these people crying about Feixiao now. I'll pull her but King of Hunt right now is Boothill.

    • @pralenkaman8105
      @pralenkaman8105 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Sinjade I ommit boothill because he is a different hunt character, different team, different playstyle, different stat focus
      He is a break hunt that uses a break team, instead of topaz or robin he prefers harmony MC and ruan mei
      Meanwhile feixiao, while she has many good teams, she is basically the same type of dps as ratio, crit and follow up focus, while ratio needs debuffs, which topaz and aventurine help with, feixiao needs attack frequency, which again, topaz and aventurine help with it, topaz boosts her follow up damage and numby helps with attack frequency while aventurine helps with shields and an occasional follow up attack
      So that's why I didn't mention boothill, it's a whole different meta, while people do and will compare acheron and firefly, they are the apexes of aoe in crit and break meta, same thing goes for feixiao and boothill, I doubt she will power creep boothill because he plays around the break meta, while she plays around the crit and follow up meta

    • @kazukinowa
      @kazukinowa 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@SinjadeInsane cope lmao, Feixiao is literally the cheapest and 0 cycle on Hoolay only needing e0s0 Fei, March, Moze and Robin e0s0 (2 gold cost)
      While Boothill needs e0s1, Ruan e1s0, Windset HMC and gallagher (Double break tech) and also 2x S5 DDD (4gold cost + S10 DDD and windset) not to mention the summon rng.
      If you matched Boothills 0 cycle investment into Feixiaos team you'd still be able 0 cycle it with a sustain and no S10 DDD.
      And not to mention Hoolay having double breakbars helps boothill a fuckton and still gets out costed by Fei.

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому

      @@kazukinowa lol, what fckn nonsense did you just say? And you say I'm coping. Okay kid! lol

    • @kazukinowa
      @kazukinowa 4 місяці тому

      @@Sinjade Ofc you cant understand me, you're talking out of your ass lmao.
      Lying ass king of hunt 😂

  • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
    @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 4 місяці тому +14

    I desperately need a dps since I am a new player and missed out on Dr. Ratio for free. I want to save for Blade E6S1, Acheron and jinglu, but I also like Feixiao's Design so she will be my main dps for now till I get a Blade rerun.

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 4 місяці тому +5

      I heard they are expanding the reruns, so be careful about your choices. I've seen people lose 150 tickets with no luck

    • @АлександрСтепанюк-о2з
      @АлександрСтепанюк-о2з 4 місяці тому

      Блэйд давно в могиле. Лучше копить на Ахерон.

    • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
      @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 4 місяці тому

      @@АлександрСтепанюк-о2з Why not get both? E6S5 Blade easy i like the character that much I am not broke too lol

    • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
      @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 4 місяці тому

      @@АлександрСтепанюк-о2з If all I cared about was getting the best characters and playing meta I wouldn't be playing a Gacha game lol

  • @leasting
    @leasting 4 місяці тому +4

    I think I'll just try for Moze on her banner, and if she shows up early that's a win. Or pull Robin instead if the rerun rumors are real lol

  • @fromheartforyoursoul4592
    @fromheartforyoursoul4592 4 місяці тому +1

    hi, thank you for your video, i have a question, where does it state or how does feixiao get 1 flying aureus for her skill? does she count as an ally herself or where is that part coming from? thank you!

    • @vriscourser
      @vriscourser 4 місяці тому

      Skill is 1 attack, follow-up (which is triggered by skill) is 1 attack, comes out to 1 flying aureus - TLDR yes feixiao contributes to her own stacks

  • @mari_zz
    @mari_zz 4 місяці тому +1

    I wonder how good Bronya is gonna be now that she gets a free ult stack from NOT triggering her follow-up attack + she gets more of her own thanks to the skill triggering the fua. Every time they act Feixiao gains 3 ult stacks.

  • @g4wrr
    @g4wrr 4 місяці тому +1

    for the sig lc, you should use 100% crit rate and any consistent amount of cdmg and not use robin’s ult because those all contribute to a wider flux in dmg so ur results mightve not been accurate

  • @Kuhakuuuu
    @Kuhakuuuu 4 місяці тому +4

    I really liked the E2 and was planning to get E2S1 but I guess E1S1 will be my new goal.
    But considering the changes and my limited team (got no Aventurine, Topaz and Robin) I might not pull anymore.

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 4 місяці тому

      Moze is a good topaz replacement with the added benefit when he enters departed state buffs like Bronya’s skill don’t expire until you use up all stacks of his FUA. So theoretically bronya moze+Fei is a viable comp

    • @Nosoytu890
      @Nosoytu890 4 місяці тому

      I'm in the same spot as you, I will pull for her though, I got 210 warps saved wish me luck, later on I will tell you If she was worth it or not

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому

      I'm not upset. After getting super lucky with E2S1 Boothill and Firefly, then E1S1 Jade and a single summon just to get Yunli, I'm ready. They say soft pity is 65 but I typically get a 5 star in 20 to 30 tickets.

    • @joaosantos-uj9uw
      @joaosantos-uj9uw 4 місяці тому

      @@Nosoytu890until then you’ll get more plus the pull during the banner. You can probably get E1S1

    • @joaosantos-uj9uw
      @joaosantos-uj9uw 4 місяці тому

      @@Ilikegames804might as well lump march 7th in there too

  • @hengkisatria8032
    @hengkisatria8032 4 місяці тому

    How if we change topas to DR ratio ? Worth or not

  • @mikaelle4200
    @mikaelle4200 4 місяці тому

    Should i go for jiaqui or sparkle i really confused i have acheron and dh il so its a hard decision

  • @FlutterSwag
    @FlutterSwag 4 місяці тому +20

    easy skip, i have no followup characters, ty mhy for saving my jades

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому

      Fair. I have full follow up teams, DoT, Break and standard dps, so I'm gonna have to go for her.

    • @FlutterSwag
      @FlutterSwag 4 місяці тому

      @@THEBeastGohan i wish u luck, she looks pretty sick gameplay wise for those that can use her to her full potential

    • @zakariamimouni279
      @zakariamimouni279 4 місяці тому +1

      yeah the way to go F2p is to pick 2 archetypes and go all in on them,

  • @potatochobit
    @potatochobit 4 місяці тому

    is there any other good light cone?

  • @mediumsurmoon6283
    @mediumsurmoon6283 4 місяці тому

    So to maximize her damage, now you need to use her Skill, and then proc her FUA, and then finally with all of that juicy buffs stacked up, you use her Ult. Then repeat and do it again for the second half of the Ultimate. Kinda good now that she isn’t totally reliant on singular stat like she used to which made her entirely reliant on Robin, well now she still is kinda reliant on Robin for massive damage but she could still perform without her when compared to her V2 self, which basically is just an equivalent of Firefly without HMC.

  • @dennerrubio8237
    @dennerrubio8237 4 місяці тому +1

    if the lack of break supports weren't a problem, I think I'd rather to pull for boothill in a rerun instead of feixiao, I don't think she's bad, but IDK...

  • @Gabrielzinho7891235
    @Gabrielzinho7891235 4 місяці тому +14

    I really hope they give her speed back and that they change her A2 trace. Her old spd was fitting for her character, and her A2 just sounds like trash imo, there will rarely be a scenario where her talent FuA wont be triggered in any of her best teams, literally the only comp where that would be common is the hypercarry one wich goes against what her kit motivates you to do

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому

      Boy doesn't know what he is talking about. A2 trace? What game you playing? XD

    • @constabrielbell4523
      @constabrielbell4523 4 місяці тому +2

      @@THEBeastGohan??? What are you yapping

    • @SaintSeiya124
      @SaintSeiya124 4 місяці тому +5

      @@THEBeastGohanAscension 2 Trace, lock in bro people have been saying this since the beginning

    • @p01nt_blank67
      @p01nt_blank67 4 місяці тому

      While I agree with you on her SPD traces to be brought back, 112 spd is still pretty good as it makes her the 2nd fastest character in the game (tied with Tingyun), and 125 SPD is way too overkill as it's literally a 10 SPD difference between her and Seele, the current fastest character in HSR.

    • @p01nt_blank67
      @p01nt_blank67 4 місяці тому

      Also this is not the final version of Feixiao and we'll probably be expecting some changes within this week.

  • @liongamercasa
    @liongamercasa 4 місяці тому

    can yunli be a good second dps in the feixiao team ?

  • @i.crashed
    @i.crashed 4 місяці тому +9

    im probably gonna skip for robin and aventurine ngl

    • @niigolover
      @niigolover 4 місяці тому

      I'm going for robin too (would also like to get her lc)

    • @M0J1N
      @M0J1N 4 місяці тому

      im skipping feixiao too. When do you think is adventurine rerun? (im a new player)

    • @niigolover
      @niigolover 4 місяці тому

      @@M0J1N maybe 2.6

    • @i.crashed
      @i.crashed 4 місяці тому

      @@M0J1N second phase of 2.5 i believe

    • @M0J1N
      @M0J1N 4 місяці тому

      thanks both of u. Actually i hope hes 2.6 with acheron(?), preferably second half. I dont know if my stellar jades are enough when considering im pulling for robin and prob kafka and blackswan when im lucky enough. f2p life is hard😭 so many chars i want. I shoulda started at launch

  • @floofzykitty5072
    @floofzykitty5072 4 місяці тому

    I think she has the Jingliu "problem" where she doesn't have much room to improve in the future because she already has everything, meaning that she will be very strong on release then be swept away waiting for the meta to shift back into her favor after it changes. Units that have lowish multipliers but self-buff themselves get powercrept easily because unless it's DEF ignore, eventually you get diminishing returns on stats/buffs. Just looking at her kit and even the relics they practically made for her like the Duran and Valorous ornaments/set, she has two different sources of DMG boost, already a tonne of Crit Rate and Crit DMG and several sources of ATK boost. The only buff she doesn't have an overabundance of is SPD. The fact that they are reducing her multipliers but increasing/adding self-buffing is like they are intentionally building her so she can be powercrept later.

  • @zNaitsab3s
    @zNaitsab3s 4 місяці тому +12

    The last words, in this video. "She is not from the best shelf" it, kinda broke me. I was so excited for her to come out. I wanted a powerfull DPS, but now. I think pulling for Robin will be Better (considering i have Dr. Ratio). Sadly i farmed her atrifacts. But not a lot. So lets hope i get Robin

    • @guthetanuki256
      @guthetanuki256 4 місяці тому +2

      Just be patient. Everything is not set in stone I would hold off farming artifacts but dont completely write off the character. A lot of people like saying mid without final numbers or until character fully out. Just wait until she comes out then decide if she's everything you wanted her to be. Remember things could always change last minute.

    • @Voidling977
      @Voidling977 4 місяці тому +1

      @@guthetanuki256 Midxiao flop, waiting for fate collab Zzzzzzz...

    • @guthetanuki256
      @guthetanuki256 4 місяці тому

      @@Voidling977 cool story bro you wait patiently then.

    • @Voidling977
      @Voidling977 4 місяці тому

      @@guthetanuki256 Wind units are never good anyway. blade 💀

    • @TheUnholyToast1
      @TheUnholyToast1 4 місяці тому

      So huohuo, BS and bronya are mid?​@@Voidling977

  • @edward-gh7gq
    @edward-gh7gq 4 місяці тому +13

    her eidolon change really turn me off, i was thinking finally a character that is worth to e6 and then they did this i dont event hink e1 as good

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому +2

      You don't have to lie to hang, we all know you can't afford e6, your excuses just make you look bad.

    • @longhoang-iq5mr
      @longhoang-iq5mr 4 місяці тому +1

      I sense skill issue from edward.. blud has to e6 to clear content

    • @edward-gh7gq
      @edward-gh7gq 4 місяці тому +2

      @@THEBeastGohan sure, you are right i cant use all my money but rather i finally found someone i want to e6, and willing to roll her before

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому

      @@longhoang-iq5mr the dude actually forgot that previous dps that were "worth to e6", which tbh is not a thing but if you did some dps that just passed were more "worth" imo. I'm guessing he has some piss poor support builds too if he thinks he needs to e6.

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому

      @@edward-gh7gq cringe

  • @dragongameoveryt3987
    @dragongameoveryt3987 4 місяці тому +1

    Do you suggest me to pull for her or wait until acheron comes back ?

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 4 місяці тому +4

      If you have Robin and topaz then she is pretty good to pick up if not get Acheron and the next character coming out the fox fuy

    • @vladys001
      @vladys001 4 місяці тому +1

      @@donew1thita11 what if I don't have Topaz, but I have Robin? I don't have any teammates for Acheron team (except some 4* with a few eidolons).
      Would you suggest pulling for Acheron?

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 4 місяці тому +4

      @@vladys001 that’s fine you can use Moze or even March 7th , Robin is the most important

    • @zekeret
      @zekeret 4 місяці тому +4

      play hsr long enough and you will notice pulling a rerunning unit is never worth it meta wise. your best choice is keeps moving forward, get new shiny strong dps like feixiao instead of coping for a 2.1 dps like acheron.
      feixiao is strong dps who could fully utilize the best harmony in game, robin. they gonna carry your acc until next planet.

  • @zerospace101
    @zerospace101 4 місяці тому +2

    Is this a buff or a nerf?
    I feel overall, it is if anything a lateral move to help with stack generation but I am also unsure if this is right?

    • @flaria185
      @flaria185 4 місяці тому +11

      The only real nerf is the 18 spd reduction and the eidolons. Otherwise, she stacks faster, the damage is about the same, you do more hits to benefit units like robin, moze, topaz, march. Overall it just saved my wallet from going for e2s1 to just e0s1 lmao

    • @zerospace101
      @zerospace101 4 місяці тому +1

      @@flaria185 I suppose but when she comes out, that will be the real test

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 4 місяці тому

      @@zerospace101 she got an overall 10% dmg increase in a turn

    • @zerospace101
      @zerospace101 4 місяці тому

      @@bennogb5069 Cool but is that enough? lol

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 4 місяці тому

      @@zerospace101 wdym? She has sub DPS potential, while doing a lot od gm with another DPS. Honestly she and her team deal a ton of dmg

  • @AlexandroJones-f4b
    @AlexandroJones-f4b 4 місяці тому

    I want peoples opinions on this. For background I currently have E1S1 Acheron and was planning on getting her to E2 on her rerun. As you know Jiaoqiu is a coming out along side Sparkle, so I want to know if I should give up E2 Acheron and get Jiaoqiu or get Sparkle and use her with E2 Acheron?
    Third option I skip them both and get E2 Acheron and then get Bronya from 5 star selector.

    • @TheUnholyToast1
      @TheUnholyToast1 4 місяці тому +1

      I dont think jiao is really that much of a buff compared to f2p or light investment acheron teams so hes really not worth it. Best to go for more acheron eidolons or get more universal supports everyone can use like sparkle i would say.

    • @finiraelkhami8251
      @finiraelkhami8251 4 місяці тому

      I think Jiaoqui will be very nice for Acheron, but it's best to wait like 1 week after release imo

  • @lance5600
    @lance5600 4 місяці тому

    question: if her ult is counted as follow up, Jiao Qiu won’t be useful on her then?

    • @JackieJackJackerJacky
      @JackieJackJackerJacky 4 місяці тому

      It’s counted as both Ult and FuA DMG so she still benefits from Jiaoqiu’s Ult Vulnerability.

    • @lance5600
      @lance5600 4 місяці тому

      @@JackieJackJackerJacky thank you. I pulled Jiaoqiu for Acheron but Fei Xiao also looks pretty fun to play so I’m having a little trouble choosing between the two.

  • @みっこちやみ
    @みっこちやみ 4 місяці тому

    I need opinions, I have Acheron E0S0, firefly with full break team, and an invested robin but don't have topaz or aventurine, is it still worth to pull for Feixiao, pull for Jiaoqiu, or save for Lingsha?

    • @Misaka05050
      @Misaka05050 4 місяці тому

      If you want my opinion, you're better off pulling Jiaoqiu. Especially since you have E0S0.
      If you have E6 Gallagher, then Lingsha might be a skip, unless you're struggling with your team getting CC.
      I don't know how good hunt March is with Feixiao so she might be a good alternative to Topaz, but honestly, Feixiao might be a skip for you. To me, she seems to be the least optimal pull for you as of right now.

    • @みっこちやみ
      @みっこちやみ 4 місяці тому

      @@Misaka05050 Makes sense bc I don't have any FUA units that could help me with a Feixiao other than a March 7th but I am still debating even if Jiaoqui is worth bc I don't have a debuffing sustainer for acheron and I was first thinking replacing a new archetype but at the same time I'm not even sure if I should even try to go for FUA. I still complete endgame using a budget acheron team, firefly with ruan mei and a hypercarry seele with robin but with bare minimum.

    • @RealJayNice
      @RealJayNice 4 місяці тому

      Try and also get a Aventurine also on your account he literally made the game easy mode especially if you be running him with Acheron or a follow up attack team with Clara 5 star light cone for firefly.

  • @nothitler941
    @nothitler941 4 місяці тому

    Is yunli not good with her?

  • @ZeHoovy2595
    @ZeHoovy2595 4 місяці тому

    Sooooo... I dont have Aventurine, Robin, and the girl with pig(i forgor), so its pretty much a skip?

    • @dewanegara8333
      @dewanegara8333 4 місяці тому

      Well, you can still pull her, but it won’t be as good as when you have aventurine and robin

  • @saltysgene584
    @saltysgene584 4 місяці тому

    E2 was op when you can do 12 attacks ult, but now its only 6 stack ult only to use a bit of waste.

  • @midnightjudicator6551
    @midnightjudicator6551 4 місяці тому

    I'll be pulling her and trying for at least e2 Moze. I do have Boothill and Firefly but I don't like how they both need the same supports. So pulling Feixao would free up Ruan Mei for Boothill while Feixao would be able to use my Robin and Moze/March 7th.

  • @strawberrymilky15
    @strawberrymilky15 4 місяці тому

    I think you should redo your lightcone calcs bc there is no way cruising is above baptism and topaz sig

  • @danannnnnn
    @danannnnnn 4 місяці тому +99

    I'll skip because there's no content where hunt is better than just using other types, and her CN general design being all high and mighty doesn't appeal to me.

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 4 місяці тому +1

      What's "CN"?

    • @lumberboi8592
      @lumberboi8592 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@@archersterling6726 chinese

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 4 місяці тому +1

      @@lumberboi8592 Ohh I get it. Thanks

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 4 місяці тому +35

      @@danannnnnn Really? I thought she has the least chinese design considering all the rest. The rest tho, it's early to decide. I'll let them cook first

    • @Matt-qc4fx
      @Matt-qc4fx 4 місяці тому +1

      What other types? Examples please

  • @izumolee6714
    @izumolee6714 4 місяці тому +7

    Best to wait for actual in-game demonstrations when the patch is live to see really how Feixiao will play cause we all seen this song & dance before most notably with Firefly when after v.3 she was called Mid-fly by so many doubters after seeing her kit. Than when she actually released in-game with the new patch she turns out to be one of the meta characters in her field.
    So honestly all of this beta v.1-3 speculations is insignificant in the grander picture when every player should just pay attention when she is released in the game when the patch goes live and CC get their hands on her for real.

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, wait til people take her into the MoC that is designed to make her look good. -_- literally why I just pull based on design and lore. Yet I'm still 100%ing MoC,PF and AS.

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 4 місяці тому

      I like character, I pull character, I build character. Screw other people's opinion, it's a game and you should have fun

  • @SkrillGamer157
    @SkrillGamer157 4 місяці тому

    Is huohuo good with feixiao?

  • @viego29
    @viego29 4 місяці тому

    Is Feixiao the same tier as Firefly. Acheron, Boothill or below them?

  • @ValentinoNicko
    @ValentinoNicko 4 місяці тому

    The problem with her self buff is that her multiplier is lower now, harmony buff matter less on her because of this and will face Jing Liu problem (not as bad as Jing Liu, but she will easily replaced when unit with better multiplier is introduced)

  • @NoelNelson-t7d
    @NoelNelson-t7d 4 місяці тому

    Why did they always feel the need to nerf?

  • @DJungleskoggs
    @DJungleskoggs 4 місяці тому

    I was planning on going for E2S1 in V1 now I’m probably still gonna go for E2S1 but I think E1 is a must have for higher damage

  • @H-zl8jq
    @H-zl8jq 4 місяці тому +3

    I like feixiao but with 3 character rerun, I am not sure. I hesitate to gacha. Focus with gacha in wuwa and gi.

  • @Akurys
    @Akurys 4 місяці тому

    I will still pull for Fenxiao despite her being a follow up attacker just because she is badass from her stance to all of her attacks and ult

  • @nickn5419
    @nickn5419 4 місяці тому

    Pulling for that ult animation. My new favorite

  • @iTaoRekt
    @iTaoRekt 4 місяці тому +1

    hehe, team fart. with the break meta, im going to put lingsha in place of adventurine. i like minions in the turn order. i just need a better fua wind (sorry blade), as i prefer the fua playstyle.

  • @Gurenn83
    @Gurenn83 4 місяці тому +3

    I have seen video showcases of her with her best team and full stacks of ULT only to find out that the boss only lost like 35-40% health. My point is, regardless of how strong the DPS 5 star is, Hoyoverse will just pump the enemies health to slowly power-creep the old 5 star DPS. Very cunning tactic which is why I am skipping Feixiao and just wait for another Acheron level DPS.

  • @LCooler91
    @LCooler91 4 місяці тому

    The video is a bit late… v3 has been out for almost a week… FYI feixiao E2 follow up atk will give her 1.5 stack..

  • @eunaosouobatman9684
    @eunaosouobatman9684 4 місяці тому +1

    The defense needs to change that is turbo ass not gonna lie

  • @shaine9968
    @shaine9968 4 місяці тому +31

    Still billion times better than my seele 😭

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 4 місяці тому +3

      Seele is good just takes godly relics and action value / turn manipulation

    • @Voidling977
      @Voidling977 4 місяці тому +1

      Wind dan heng victim

    • @H-zl8jq
      @H-zl8jq 4 місяці тому

      And cooler than Bladdie. 🥲

    • @jcrey-zg7fv
      @jcrey-zg7fv 4 місяці тому

      @@Voidling977 sushang victim

  • @geebeepman
    @geebeepman 4 місяці тому +3

    I haven't really paid attention to feixiao's kit since I wasn't pulling for her but this is the character people initially claimed to be on acheron's level. must've been some pretty big changes for people to calling her mid now or being unsure if she's even worth to pull.

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 місяці тому +15

      People with low reading compression call her mid when her damage is insane

    • @Raidenmommy89
      @Raidenmommy89 4 місяці тому

      ​@Thedoorway123 her dmg is insane there's no denying that but she's nowhere near acheron she's nowhere near firefly either

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 місяці тому +1

      @Raidenmommy89 I never mentioned them her damage should be compared to Dr. ratio damage since as far as teammates go, that's who she's competing with

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Raidenmommy89 Feixiao is still the lowest cost 0c for every MoC existent, for Hoolay Firefly needs at least E2+RM, Acheron needs at least E2+E1 Robin, Boothill at least needs E0S1+RM E1S1. Meanwhile Feixiao can 0c every MoC in the team Feixiao Robin March Bronya without extra eidolons.

    • @Nightmare-361
      @Nightmare-361 4 місяці тому +1

      Feixiao was never on Acheron's level to begin with.
      People just like to shit on Acheron for some reason. But i guess that's what happen when you're the best DPS since your release without the sight of getting dethroned

  • @peterszucs6111
    @peterszucs6111 4 місяці тому +18

    I think people really sleep on Sparkle as her possible best support, especially if you plan on pulling for Lingsha too.

    • @Gabrielzinho7891235
      @Gabrielzinho7891235 4 місяці тому +38

      50% advance isnt worth the slot, you are better off using team mates that generate a bunch of stacks like M7, Moze and Topaz

    • @codyp2808
      @codyp2808 4 місяці тому

      Lingsha’s break so she will still benefit most from ruan mei.

    • @ChiDoke
      @ChiDoke 4 місяці тому +14

      Robin is her best support not even debatable
      1.Full team advance which is so much more stacks than sparkle gives
      2.1-1.5k atk
      3.like 20k every hit in a team that wants to hit as much as possible
      4.45% crit damage
      5.50% dmg bonus
      Yh there’s no debate

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому +1

      E1S1 Bronya would be better.

    • @i.t.s.s.i.l.v.e.r
      @i.t.s.s.i.l.v.e.r 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Gabrielzinho7891235 that 50% advance is mostly 100% lol

  • @HDAD419
    @HDAD419 4 місяці тому

    I'm planning to run her with Sparkle, Robin and Aventurine just because I had Sparkle in my account for a very long time and not being used at all lol

  • @lionelsioco123
    @lionelsioco123 4 місяці тому

    hmm... so limited characters i dont have:
    Jing Yuan, Luocha, Blade, Argenti, Aventurine, Jade, Sparkle,, Topaz, and Yunli
    dont even have standard 5stars: Clara, Welt, Yanqing
    yeah,... even if i want her because of her design plus a looks like Acheron Ulti but single form (plus her skill on field of gathering enemies), most probably gonna skip..... even if im gonna get Moze in the process.....

  • @onipocaa
    @onipocaa 4 місяці тому

    I think HSR dev try to balanced their game now after people complained so they might not make any unit super broken for a while so Penacony unit look even good now to get as a dps unit .

  • @foxley95
    @foxley95 4 місяці тому

    Still gonna pull her and build a FUA team centering around her if possible.

  • @NeverLemonade
    @NeverLemonade 4 місяці тому

    I mean changing crit dmg buff to attack buff just seems like a huge nerf to me as attack has drawbacks after a certain limit and crit is just better. I think they're probably are doing this to try to create a "balanced" character instead of just another acheron

  • @CurseOxuin
    @CurseOxuin 4 місяці тому +9

    That Def% talent is so out of place lmao.
    her kit got simplified for idk why, now she's feels more like an Destruction character rather than Hunt.

  • @averagemilkconsumer
    @averagemilkconsumer 4 місяці тому +1

    The ult change is so weird, I don't care if overall her kit can do more dmg now or not, it just looks way less satisfying with the 6 stack cap. Hope it gets reverted.

  • @AzcaRatti-xf4up
    @AzcaRatti-xf4up 4 місяці тому

    Yeah I have already had Firefly, Boothill, Acheron, and Dr Ratio, maybe I'll skip her for another main dps and sub dps. I heard Rappa will be a great team for break team, possible for Boothill since he needs slash attack unit.

  • @algotfbg3057
    @algotfbg3057 4 місяці тому

    Aaaaaaa I really like feixiao as a character but I don’t have her teammates and I already have enough dps’es

  • @warden3968
    @warden3968 4 місяці тому +1

    I feel like she got a higher damage floor but a lower damage ceiling. Also all these self buff look like they are made to make us play her without Robin

    • @1987jjl
      @1987jjl 4 місяці тому

      Except she performs one more attack per turn now, so it actually makes her synergize even better with Robin.

    • @warden3968
      @warden3968 4 місяці тому

      @@1987jjl yeah that’s kind of weird because Robin doesn’t atk…
      We’re gonna have to wait until professional try her

  • @liongamercasa
    @liongamercasa 4 місяці тому

    I think I'll pull for robin first since I truly need her in my account as well as adventurine I have yunli and jade but tbh for endgame content I need a second dps for the second team since my first one has boothill so pulling first for robin is my priority btw I am not guaranteed but if I get an early robin Idk if I should wait for aventurine or pull for feixiao

  • @ubikeledek5510
    @ubikeledek5510 4 місяці тому

    I plan to pull e6s5 General Fei. but after she got a huge nerf, she just need e2s5. Her LC more OP than her E4 & E6 😢

  • @DahRahzor
    @DahRahzor 4 місяці тому

    17 less SPD and no 10% action advance on skill?! Well, bye bye to my 187+ SPD build (thanks to 10% provided by March) which would have made it possible to perform 11 actions in 5 cycles, three of which in the very first one... they took away what made her different from any other unit: the fact of being able to mimic 200 SPD with "only" 187...
    Let's see what they do next week, but as of now, I'm pretty disappointed with such a massive nerf...

  • @NullZ3r0
    @NullZ3r0 4 місяці тому +1

    Im kinda sad for the whales now, they fucked up the Eidolons so bad

  • @Yummers321
    @Yummers321 4 місяці тому

    Well if Robin has a rerun in this patch like the leakers were saying, then I will have to pick her over FeiXiao

    • @emmirbynuestro9726
      @emmirbynuestro9726 4 місяці тому

      nah most likely either acheron,bw, and aventurine i only 2 patches since robin and 3 next update

  • @justjames4725
    @justjames4725 4 місяці тому

    im going to pull for her since she work really well with Moze heh

  • @aggil661
    @aggil661 4 місяці тому +3

    Decent and mid mean the same thing lmao

  • @Sinjade
    @Sinjade 4 місяці тому

    Acheron still rules especially after Jiaoqiu this week.

  • @belldandyg
    @belldandyg 4 місяці тому

    The real question is: Do you pull for her Kit or do you pull for her character (i'm for the character)

  • @govetastream9003
    @govetastream9003 4 місяці тому

    Fei, Moze, Bronya and Kakavasha (best Team for me)

  • @nxn7215
    @nxn7215 4 місяці тому

    Will she became the second coming of midyuan? Only time will tell…

  • @TsuchiGamer06
    @TsuchiGamer06 4 місяці тому

    People are both dooming that she's bad but also wondering if she power creeps FF and Acheron.
    She's gonna be great abd ulting twice is gonna be great

  • @travisproo87
    @travisproo87 4 місяці тому

    Need Robin…
    But I’ll be using Yunli as a pseudo sustain ;)

  • @mihyara0195
    @mihyara0195 4 місяці тому

    Pulling her because she will be meta ❌❌
    Pulling her because she hit tons of damage ❌❌
    Pulling her because she takes off her jacket in her Ult 🥵🥶😋😱🤯

  • @olivierdamacena4450
    @olivierdamacena4450 4 місяці тому

    I'm pulling, she looks fun asf

  • @lucagallottini5554
    @lucagallottini5554 4 місяці тому

    I was thinking of using her as main with yunli as sub. I think it would be funny

  • @animeplace4440
    @animeplace4440 4 місяці тому

    I think everyone is forgetting her Talent gives Fexiao so much damage.
    Her ultimate in V3 is at 700% and used 6 stacks.
    700 x 60% is 1120% which is way more than 840% in V2
    And if you were to use her Ultimate back to back it would be 2240% instead of 1680%
    This also makes her more viable because instead of using all your Ult stacks at once you can time them more easily.
    Yes there are nerfs to her kit but her talent is a massive buff that people are really sleeping and so as long as you use FUA you should have no problem keeping the uptime on her talent.

    • @getchwaltzetki6022
      @getchwaltzetki6022 4 місяці тому

      why you multiply it with 60%?
      her v1 ult have MORE multiplier. now v5 came out ,it's shitits hunt ,it's supposed to do millions damage like boothil. its just dr ratio without debuff requirements
      im lacking second dps with 150+ ticket ,but i think ill skip her

    • @animeplace4440
      @animeplace4440 4 місяці тому

      @@getchwaltzetki6022 cause her talent gives her a flat 60% damage boost for 2 turns.
      So her 700% ult now will do 60% more damage meaning 1120% at 6 stacks.
      And it's a good thing her ult doesn't use all the stacks BECAUSE she's a hunt character. What happens if the damage she deals with her ULT does too much damage. That would be considered wasted damage that could be used on another enemy. So it's a good thing she's able to use it twice and not 1 time.

  • @highwaytoheaven99
    @highwaytoheaven99 4 місяці тому +10

    The ULT using less stacks is actually a good thing. All the leaked footage I saw of her had her overkilling the enemies by dealing TOO MUCH damage. Like, the bosses' health bar was already zero by the time she was halfway through her hits.

    • @edward-gh7gq
      @edward-gh7gq 4 місяці тому +15

      @@highwaytoheaven99 but before u can also use the ult at 6 stack. And if you kill the enemy with whatever number it is then it will reserve the rest of the stack. But now it will consume 6 no matter even if u kill it with 4 or 3 slash it will still take 6

    • @jeremyjoyner9796
      @jeremyjoyner9796 4 місяці тому +3

      It doesn’t use less stacks. Before, you needed at least 6 stacks to initiate her ult and if the enemy died by the 6ths she would automatically use her finisher and save the rest of her stacks. Now it’s capped at 6 stacks no matter what so she cant keep pounding the enemy if it hasn’t died. Bad change

    • @traestephen7276
      @traestephen7276 4 місяці тому +3

      It doesn't use less stacks you end up using more than the old one cause if you overkill you get stacks back

  • @xDidddle
    @xDidddle 4 місяці тому

    I'm not sure if i want to pull her. i have robin and topaz, so she might be worth it for me. but march is also great with topaz, and acheron is coming soon, and adventurine too. 2 characters that i dont have. so i think ill save for acheron e0s1.

    • @Misaka05050
      @Misaka05050 4 місяці тому

      Ngl, if you have Robin and Topaz, then I think it is worth pulling for her if you have the jades.
      Those two characters specifically will help Feixiao.

  • @jhxe
    @jhxe 4 місяці тому +1

    Me:
    Robin E3S1
    Topaz E0S1
    Firefly E2S1
    Jade E0S1
    Bootyhill E0S1
    Ruan Mei E0S1
    Yes, Feixiao E2S1 will be a perfect addition to my collection (and hopefully daddy Ave gets rerun so I can finally use RRAT or FART potentially now that it has changed)

  • @sakuraa_a
    @sakuraa_a 4 місяці тому +4

    They nerfed her lc so bad like you could do any attack and get def ignore can"t they just do a normal lc ratio and topaz could use it but hoyoverse just refuses to do a general lc for everyone

    • @THEBeastGohan
      @THEBeastGohan 4 місяці тому +2

      It's almost like they wanna make money, weird right?

    • @sakuraa_a
      @sakuraa_a 4 місяці тому

      @@THEBeastGohan yeah, I actually planned to get the lc for ratio and Dan Heng if I get lucky on robin they're losing money on their own

  • @Loppedofflemons
    @Loppedofflemons 3 місяці тому

    I need Feixiao. Badly.

  • @Dreams_Montage
    @Dreams_Montage 4 місяці тому

    Im still gonna pull dont care even though i have acheron firefly and alot of dps i like her design plus i like hunt characters

  • @MrVoldross
    @MrVoldross 4 місяці тому

    Yeah I clicked on the video thinking it would be interesting, but it turns out that it was more like a spreadsheet doompost. We have to wait until the final version to draw conclusions about what the raw numbers mean. All of this becomes worthless if things get changed again before release, so why bother with a "here's a soon to be obsolete deep dive"? It looks like a few minor changes that are more about keeping things balanced rather than something major anyway. That said I'll probably pick her up no matter the end setup because I literally only have Dan Heng & Sampo as wind DPS options 😂

  • @XtiyoonKHX
    @XtiyoonKHX 4 місяці тому

    im glad and pissed at her e4 nerf
    dont really have to spend more $ for that e4

  • @patrickvelasco3519
    @patrickvelasco3519 4 місяці тому +1

    I have midcheron, midfly, and midhill with ok builds and will still pull for my general Feixiao with LC

  • @NoelNelson-t7d
    @NoelNelson-t7d 4 місяці тому

    She was too broken at E0 And a lot of people wasn't gonna spend much after getting her, so to stop that, they did a marketed move to force people to get her E1, But keep on spending and spending and spending😅 smart business move but Screwed us in process

  • @aniavu9901
    @aniavu9901 4 місяці тому

    you did NOT call that team FART 😭😭😭😭

  • @StankyJon
    @StankyJon 4 місяці тому

    I was just gonna pull on jiaoqiu and skip feixiao but my jiaoqiu came in the form of some little ponytailed boy.....uhhghhghhg

  • @cuteflame1549
    @cuteflame1549 4 місяці тому

    the existence of her previous e2 makes her like unusable, i mean as in she lost her shiny value, making people that did not pull her e2 feels like using a 2nd hand fei xiao. lower charging input, hence lower damage output. Like a thousand million times differences.
    want to pull her but cant e2 her ? nah no thanks.. kind of feeling vibe im getting.
    without it even exist in the first place and rework her whole kit makes her whole. being too broken isn't fun. being too useless without x is also ain't fun.

  • @jaguh9069
    @jaguh9069 4 місяці тому

    13:37 Lol I see what you did there 🤣

  • @pyro5159
    @pyro5159 4 місяці тому

    I like her but easy skip! I already have Topaz and everyone has Dr. Ratio which is already broken and we all get E3 March 7th Hunt for free who again is broken with all single dps teams so it's funny they release what's basically the HSR version of Dehya after that

  • @AC-ut3nk
    @AC-ut3nk 4 місяці тому

    She need to be OP for the sake of HSR