The residue you see on the triple stitch is wax, not glue. Redwing used a specific type of machine (Puritan machine) to sew that part that runs the thread thru a small vat of liquid wax to enhance water resistance
Probably better for work than hiking, particularly if you work on concrete. The wedge soles were to sone degree developed with hunters in mind, supposedly as way to offer a quieter, more stealthy boot. Depending on where you hike, I doubt the wedge soles would last nearly as long as a lug sole or offer the traction. They are great on concrete however. I put up to ten hours a day on concrete and they make a difference
Nice to spot that gap in the leather insole/insert market. All of the stuff out there that I've seen is cheaply made out of thin chrome-tanned leather. The RW leather insole is probably the highest quality leather insole I've seen that you can easily pick up online, but it's not what I (we) were looking for. Your vegetable tanned ones look great.
I have this timberland mudlark come with reinforced leather insole. You couldn't rub your toes even if you walked all day in them, the leather insole dries your feet shockingly well.
i know what you mean by flimsy speek hooks at the top. i do flooring and alot of the boots i have had has these thin hooks and like you said they bend and eventually break off. what i do is just use the hole as a regular eye after they break but you have to slightly drill it out. im surprised redwings have these.
I love all my boots but I started with Redwing so much respect also people kinda hate no wolverine 1000 mile and I've got 3 pairs now and I absolutely love them.
It's wax along the threads, not glue. The Puritan Stitch machine that stitches all three rows at once dips the thread through liquid wax as it is sewing.
I'm constantly upset with myself that i never got a pair of these, though the obvious thing to do would be just get a pair of 1907s and have a cobbler or red wing slap a vibram sole on the bottom.
hi dale, ya i have all of the Heritage red wing moc-toes aside from the briar oil slick with the Logger sole. i think they can stand up to most anything you throw at it. and for me they are very comfortable. i am a 10D and that’s what i wear with my red wings for me they are true to size. i hear maybe go a 1/2 or full down but that would not work for me. so anyway i love i have no complaints. i have a pair of Mr. lou’s coming man that is really going to be exciting. the brown stock boot i will let you know how they feel. thanks dale.
@@DalesLeatherworks hi Dale, thank you for reply regarding my mr. lou’s and i’m so glad to hear you have pair of lou’s coming too. man i can hardly wait. when you get yours please share them i’m sure all of your viewers would love to see them. dale can you please tell how to get your wrist bands they are so nice. thanks, Kevin
Dale I have a question about your leather insoles I don't see the exact size on on your site I need should I buy the one that is .25 short or .25 long and trim
Great video as always Dale. I, like you, wear an 8.5 D in the Leo last from Grant Stone. I have the 875's and ended up getting an 8D, so I wasn't surprised that those were a little big on you. I have the Copper Rough and Tough in the Blacksmith (3343) in 8.5 D but would have loved to have tried an E width in them. Final question, how long are the leather bands that you're selling? Both in total length and also where the holes are to latch them. Also, I think you're spot on in the $40-50 range for the leather insoles.
Thanks for the input on the pricing my man!! The single cuff measures 9.5 inches in length, the distance from the two holes is 7 3/4 inches and 8 1/2 inches from hole to stud. The double cuff measures 17.5 inches in length, the distance from the three holes is 15 1/4", 16", and 16 3/4" inches from hole to stud.
I love them in blue. Maybe one day. Im a bit confused by grant stone sizing guide. If you go half size down and wider i guess heel to ball changes. Also collectors that play with it as you say do it as well. Do they brake in new ball wile waring it? I got brass boots in tan essex in 10d and boy do they suit the feel, exept ball of my foot being in front of the boots one like 4mm. Do you think this is something possible to brake in or should i rather move them on?
@@DalesLeatherworks actually i went for tan Essex. I went on they're website approximately ones a week to look one vs other and tan had just more breathing effect on me though i love black chromexl
Not at all. This shoe has nothing to do with the 1907. Completely different last. It’s closer to the 875 with the Vibram traction sole. Those are both built on last 23.
Redwing does not make or sell boots or shoes anymore. You should do a video as to why. Nick's boots sells leather insoles for $20. Are yours really worth $30 more? If so .... why?
Hey Floyd! Yeah I’m still getting my prices worked out. Nick’s is a big company and is probably able to make those insoles from scrap as a secondary product is my best guess. I paid $300 per side for my W&C 9 oz. Latigo, so i likely paid more than a large company who orders their sides in bulk. I could get (maybe?) 20-30 sets of insoles stamped out of a side. Factor in shipping it’s just tough to charge $20 for an insole.
For a commentor, you seem to ask a disproportionate number of questions in your statements. Why? Even with this review being dated, your first paragraph has me intrigued. Perhaps you or Dale can assume that I'm especially dense, and explain to us why Red Wing only appears to be producing and selling boots here in our wonderful country. It's only been a couple of years since another leather worker named Weston chopped up Dr. Martens (The company, not a particular shoe, though he did that as well). Half a dozen follow up videos and boom, he's YT famous, and the Doc Martens horse is in the ICU praying for the sweet release of death from being brutally beaten so many times, then brought back for more. Red Wings seems like a much harder target. So give us a clue, what's the one thing everyone should know about Red Wing that not everyone does? Genuinely curious. Cheers. 🍻
The residue you see on the triple stitch is wax, not glue. Redwing used a specific type of machine (Puritan machine) to sew that part that runs the thread thru a small vat of liquid wax to enhance water resistance
You’re exactly right, I realized this after watching Rose Anvil’s video, pinning this to the top!!
I always thought the Moc Toe was meant to mimic Native American Moccasins
It is.
You are correct, sir!
Yeah, couldn’t believe he said that
Moc toe is actually from the word moccasin and their construction method
Nah… because they didn’t have enough leather… or something
First time commenting but long time viewer! Congrats with all the business success and appreciate the information and expertise over the years!
I like these and I think i'm going to get them as my go-to boot for hiking and the occasional workday.
Probably better for work than hiking, particularly if you work on concrete. The wedge soles were to sone degree developed with hunters in mind, supposedly as way to offer a quieter, more stealthy boot. Depending on where you hike, I doubt the wedge soles would last nearly as long as a lug sole or offer the traction. They are great on concrete however. I put up to ten hours a day on concrete and they make a difference
@@waterfordrs22 tables have turned .. i’m looking for a boot that I can use for landscaping .. I was thinking the RedWing 10875
The "Bryan Rosling" ID in the photo made me chuckle. That would be a good alias to check into hotels under if you were in fact Ryan Gosling!
Glad you caught that 😉
Nice to spot that gap in the leather insole/insert market. All of the stuff out there that I've seen is cheaply made out of thin chrome-tanned leather. The RW leather insole is probably the highest quality leather insole I've seen that you can easily pick up online, but it's not what I (we) were looking for. Your vegetable tanned ones look great.
Thanks so much for this feedback brother I really appreciate it!!!!
I have this timberland mudlark come with reinforced leather insole. You couldn't rub your toes even if you walked all day in them, the leather insole dries your feet shockingly well.
I don’t think that glue on the stitches it a wax’s I saw it on the rose-anvil video but great input keep up the good work deal
i know what you mean by flimsy speek hooks at the top. i do flooring and alot of the boots i have had has these thin hooks and like you said they bend and eventually break off. what i do is just use the hole as a regular eye after they break but you have to slightly drill it out. im surprised redwings have these.
I love all my boots but I started with Redwing so much respect also people kinda hate no wolverine 1000 mile and I've got 3 pairs now and I absolutely love them.
I think they are the best moc toe! Thanks for showing!
Enjoyed hearing your thoughts on RW.
Leather insoles are hard to come by these days. I have a couple boots that could use some.
Oh interesting thing on red wing boots with trad is that mashine adds wax wile stiching. So that is not glue rather wax
It's not mock. 🤣. It's moc, short for moccasin.
Moc toe name comes from the moccasin.
It's wax along the threads, not glue. The Puritan Stitch machine that stitches all three rows at once dips the thread through liquid wax as it is sewing.
I'm constantly upset with myself that i never got a pair of these, though the obvious thing to do would be just get a pair of 1907s and have a cobbler or red wing slap a vibram sole on the bottom.
Why can we have more of these vibram soled beauties? I have been looking around to no avail, moctoe vibram lug soled shoes are so comfortable!
Wish you could still get these. Only looks like the darker brown is available now
Yes! Can’t understand why……🤔
hi dale, ya i have all of the Heritage red wing moc-toes aside from the briar oil slick with the Logger sole. i think they can stand up to most anything you throw at it. and for
me they are very comfortable.
i am a 10D and that’s what i wear with my red wings for me they are true to size. i hear maybe go a 1/2 or full down but
that would not work for me.
so anyway i love i have no complaints. i have a pair of Mr. lou’s coming man that is really
going to be exciting. the brown
stock boot i will let you know how they feel.
thanks dale.
Man I have some Mr Lou’s on the way too!! Thanks for the insights my man!
@@DalesLeatherworks hi Dale,
thank you for reply regarding my mr. lou’s and i’m so glad to hear you have
pair of lou’s coming too. man i can hardly wait. when you get yours please
share them i’m sure all of your viewers
would love to see them. dale can you
please tell how to get your wrist bands
they are so nice. thanks, Kevin
I've always thought it looks different and I prefer the copper on the iron rangers
Dale I have a question about your leather insoles I don't see the exact size on on your site I need should I buy the one that is .25 short or .25 long and trim
can you do a rank tier for leathers and also tannery?
Nice! Love the reviews!
Great video as always Dale. I, like you, wear an 8.5 D in the Leo last from Grant Stone. I have the 875's and ended up getting an 8D, so I wasn't surprised that those were a little big on you. I have the Copper Rough and Tough in the Blacksmith (3343) in 8.5 D but would have loved to have tried an E width in them.
Final question, how long are the leather bands that you're selling? Both in total length and also where the holes are to latch them. Also, I think you're spot on in the $40-50 range for the leather insoles.
Thanks for the input on the pricing my man!! The single cuff measures 9.5 inches in length, the distance from the two holes is 7 3/4 inches and 8 1/2 inches from hole to stud.
The double cuff measures 17.5 inches in length, the distance from the three holes is 15 1/4", 16", and 16 3/4" inches from hole to stud.
@@DalesLeatherworks thank you. Time to measure my wrists lol
You should review red wings black smith too
OMG 😱 you've got veg tan insoles. I need some.the sapphire ones I have in my Chelsea are slipping around, and getting distorted badly after 2 months.
Awesome!!! Glad I can offer something unique and needed!!!!
Have you heard of dundas boots ? They’re out of Norway 🇳🇴 if you haven’t , I recommend you do …..impressive ….
I’ll check them out!!
How waterproof are these boots?
I love them in blue. Maybe one day. Im a bit confused by grant stone sizing guide. If you go half size down and wider i guess heel to ball changes. Also collectors that play with it as you say do it as well. Do they brake in new ball wile waring it? I got brass boots in tan essex in 10d and boy do they suit the feel, exept ball of my foot being in front of the boots one like 4mm. Do you think this is something possible to brake in or should i rather move them on?
I think it depends on the leather, did you get CXL? If so I would say yes they will definitely conform to your foot
@@DalesLeatherworks actually i went for tan Essex. I went on they're website approximately ones a week to look one vs other and tan had just more breathing effect on me though i love black chromexl
Please make custom leather insole available on your website, i have a pair of iron ranger 9D that feels a little bit too big so it should help
They are now available at dalesleatherworks.com 😁😁😁😁
@@DalesLeatherworks Nice thanks!! Do you know if i should get the 43 insole for 9D iron ranger?
LOLOLOL, I am late so I am sure it's been laughed at already buuuuuuut who is Bryan Gosling?😂😂
Nobody knows 😂
@@DalesLeatherworks I’ll bet he’s handsom in those boots though.🤙🏼
It came from native Americans “MOCcasin” shoes that they wore
How does a guy making boots videos not know this??
So is this basically a 1907 with a lug sole instead of the wedge sole?
Yes redwing has multiple Moctoe styles , 875 I think is their most popular
The 1907 is a different last..fits different than yours.
Not at all. This shoe has nothing to do with the 1907. Completely different last. It’s closer to the 875 with the Vibram traction sole. Those are both built on last 23.
What happened to the Boot Guy?
I have no idea!!!
Que chingona colección
Redwing does not make or sell boots or shoes anymore. You should do a video as to why.
Nick's boots sells leather insoles for $20. Are yours really worth $30 more? If so .... why?
Hey Floyd! Yeah I’m still getting my prices worked out. Nick’s is a big company and is probably able to make those insoles from scrap as a secondary product is my best guess. I paid $300 per side for my W&C 9 oz. Latigo, so i likely paid more than a large company who orders their sides in bulk. I could get (maybe?) 20-30 sets of insoles stamped out of a side. Factor in shipping it’s just tough to charge $20 for an insole.
For a commentor, you seem to ask a disproportionate number of questions in your statements. Why?
Even with this review being dated, your first paragraph has me intrigued. Perhaps you or Dale can assume that I'm especially dense, and explain to us why Red Wing only appears to be producing and selling boots here in our wonderful country.
It's only been a couple of years since another leather worker named Weston chopped up Dr. Martens (The company, not a particular shoe, though he did that as well). Half a dozen follow up videos and boom, he's YT famous, and the Doc Martens horse is in the ICU praying for the sweet release of death from being brutally beaten so many times, then brought back for more.
Red Wings seems like a much harder target. So give us a clue, what's the one thing everyone should know about Red Wing that not everyone does?
Genuinely curious. Cheers. 🍻