I’m glad that you are spreading this information. I have a GH6 with an SD and a CF Express card slot. I would have been interested in this solution when I bought my camera because the CF Express cards are so expensive, but recently I was able to buy a Lexar Gold 2 TB CF Express Type B card for $625 CDN. This is still not cheap but with this card I can shoot in all codecs, frame rates, and resolutions. I shoot live theatre, concerts, and dance shows. I can shoot open gate 5.7 K and record a 4 K back on my Ninja V while powering the camera with USB-C. If I had known about this adapter, I could have done the same thing at a lower cost but at a lower data rate.
Will this work with compact flash cards in older cameras? Do you know if they have an adapter for memory cards UHS-II and UHS-I? I like the content thanks and keep up the great work...maybe other types of cards to cover most cameras could be in another video?
CF Express and original CompactFlash/CF are completely different standards, and this won't work in the older cameras. Since no new cameras models for nearly a decade now are using CF, I think new CF cards have mostly stopped being designed. I don't think a M.2 to SD adapter would work due to the physical size, and different bus types needing a converter chip.
Thanks for breaking down burst vs. sustained speed ratings- I messed up a year ago and got a 4TB SATA SSD with hopes of recording 4K raw... you can imagine how that went, hahaha I'm gonna give this a shot for a Sony Fx30 and report back with my findings!
Just wanna say the fx30 takes the smaller CFx type A cards. There are other adapters for these type A cards, but they normally have a cable and a drive that is to be mounted elsewhere on the camera.
@@ElectronicsWizardry right, I posted my comment and figured out later that day that it wasn't the right card type lmao- I'm gonna fogure something out, sooner or later
I have tried this same enclosure with my R5 and R5C and it buffers out in less than a minute, I have tried 2tb data m.2 gen4 and 1tb corsair mp600 m.2 gen 4 both do the same on both cameras.
What modes were you using? Video or photos? The off the shelf cf express cards are definitely faster and seem to have write optimized variants that don’t exist for m.2 2230 ssds, but I have found them fast enough for stuff like 4k all I and offload much faster than any sd card.
A question, are a Kioxia M.2 drive more durable than a known brand CF Express card? Me thinking it could maybe be more durable/reliable :O thanks for showing me!
I have being doing endurance tests on 256GB Kioxia BG4 drives, and have had 5 drives with > 1PB written or about 4000-6000 write cycles. Its hard to obtain good reliability data for drives, but I don't think the BG4 drives will have any endurance issues.
@@ElectronicsWizardry Sorry i meant the other way around. I think the Kioxia drive could have more Endurance than the SanDisk CFexpress Type B card you are showing in the video. off topic question have you done any testing on Kingston Nvme or SATA drives?
@@Tofflus I recently had a DIY SinTech CF Express Type B 512GB card fail on me during a wedding function. When I opened it, it had a Toshiba/Kioxia BG4 inside it, when I cleaned it with IPA alcohol it worked once and then when I took it out and put it back in it failed once again. I suspect the 2230 SSD NVMe to CF Express Type B adapters are of bad quality, and thus fail easier, mine failed in 10 months approximately. These cards are good whilst they work, but other than that the adapters that allow them to work are useless and result in their failure, whether it's ZITAY or SinTech, I suspect both companies source from the same places and thus sell such things.
The card has been working fine for the last 7 months without any issues. I have shot almost all of my videos and photos on it and haven’t had any issues or data loss.
I don't think these exist for CF-x type A. I think type A is too small for any off the shelf SSD to fit inside. There are some adapters that have a cable coming out of a type A slot and will mount the drive somewhere else on the camera.
Try to use Corsair MP600 1TB ssd for 8K raw. With the 1TB MP600 I was able to record continuous 8K raw (NON LT) for 30 minutes on the R5 without frame drop. After 600GB the ssd start dropping frames every 14 seconds
@gsanchez922 yea generally agree. While there are combos that are reliable, why risk footage and downtime on an otherwise expensive setup by saving a bit on media.
@gsanchez922 yea the early days of cf express was extremely expensive and the diy route seemed to make more sense. With current prices buying a card seems to make more sense.
Hey I bought Western Digital WD SN740 1TB and Zitay adapter but unfortunately I have problems with the shutter button to make videos with the GH6. Often it records not when I press the shutter button, but when I take my finger off it. So register late. Anyone have this problem? Thank you
amigo, desabilite no menu a função REC no Obturador. Eu tinha esse problema também com qualquer cartão. Espero ter ajudado. Sua mensagem me ajudou a tomar a decisão. Eu estava com medo de comprar SN740, não sabia se iria funcionar. Você foi a primeira pessoa a informar se o SN740 funcionou com GH6. Obrigado por compartilhar.
Would something like a m.2 external drive work as a diy t7 they make adapters for sata and nvme m.2 drives that connect to usb like other external ssds. I don’t know of any in the exact same form factor as a t7 if you have a mount designed for those drives.
Hey man, I have an All In one Positivo Union C4500A-21 Intel Celeron Dual-Core Windows 10 Home Screen 22", I'm not American, I'm Brazilian and I'm just commenting here because I can't find any videos that teach how to do this in my country , and I came to ask because I saw your video, turning an all-in-one into a monitor, I want to know if it is possible to turn this all in one into a monitor, for a pc gamer.(i'm using traslator)
If you create a card with a gen 4 NVMe, there will be no Problem for 8K 60 fps RAW recording. Here is my test: ua-cam.com/video/frETvIE-egk/v-deo.htmlsi=9Afz8h_vyNgTGcmj
I’m glad that you are spreading this information. I have a GH6 with an SD and a CF Express card slot. I would have been interested in this solution when I bought my camera because the CF Express cards are so expensive, but recently I was able to buy a Lexar Gold 2 TB CF Express Type B card for $625 CDN. This is still not cheap but with this card I can shoot in all codecs, frame rates, and resolutions. I shoot live theatre, concerts, and dance shows. I can shoot open gate 5.7 K and record a 4 K back on my Ninja V while powering the camera with USB-C. If I had known about this adapter, I could have done the same thing at a lower cost but at a lower data rate.
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Interesting to look at power consumption! Great vid thanks for the info!
Nice one. Might get a little more mileage out of it if you peel the label off the chip before applying the thermal paste.
Will this work with compact flash cards in older cameras? Do you know if they have an adapter for memory cards UHS-II and UHS-I? I like the content thanks and keep up the great work...maybe other types of cards to cover most cameras could be in another video?
CF Express and original CompactFlash/CF are completely different standards, and this won't work in the older cameras. Since no new cameras models for nearly a decade now are using CF, I think new CF cards have mostly stopped being designed.
I don't think a M.2 to SD adapter would work due to the physical size, and different bus types needing a converter chip.
Thanks for breaking down burst vs. sustained speed ratings- I messed up a year ago and got a 4TB SATA SSD with hopes of recording 4K raw... you can imagine how that went, hahaha
I'm gonna give this a shot for a Sony Fx30 and report back with my findings!
Just wanna say the fx30 takes the smaller CFx type A cards. There are other adapters for these type A cards, but they normally have a cable and a drive that is to be mounted elsewhere on the camera.
@@ElectronicsWizardry right, I posted my comment and figured out later that day that it wasn't the right card type lmao- I'm gonna fogure something out, sooner or later
Great, straightforward informative video. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for that info, well done, helped me a lot!
Your explanations are succinct and perfect
I have tried this same enclosure with my R5 and R5C and it buffers out in less than a minute, I have tried 2tb data m.2 gen4 and 1tb corsair mp600 m.2 gen 4 both do the same on both cameras.
What modes were you using? Video or photos? The off the shelf cf express cards are definitely faster and seem to have write optimized variants that don’t exist for m.2 2230 ssds, but I have found them fast enough for stuff like 4k all I and offload much faster than any sd card.
did you test this in Blackmagic camera with Kioxia BG4 in this adapter? Thanks you for this useful infor!
I don't have any Blackmagic cameras to test with currently.
Hi, interesting video, thanks for sharing. I have the Lumix GH6, can you tell me which brand SSD 2030 is compatible with the GH6? Thank you.
A question, are a Kioxia M.2 drive more durable than a known brand CF Express card? Me thinking it could maybe be more durable/reliable :O
thanks for showing me!
I have being doing endurance tests on 256GB Kioxia BG4 drives, and have had 5 drives with > 1PB written or about 4000-6000 write cycles. Its hard to obtain good reliability data for drives, but I don't think the BG4 drives will have any endurance issues.
@@ElectronicsWizardry Sorry i meant the other way around. I think the Kioxia drive could have more Endurance than the SanDisk CFexpress Type B card you are showing in the video.
off topic question
have you done any testing on Kingston Nvme or SATA drives?
@@Tofflus I recently had a DIY SinTech CF Express Type B 512GB card fail on me during a wedding function. When I opened it, it had a Toshiba/Kioxia BG4 inside it, when I cleaned it with IPA alcohol it worked once and then when I took it out and put it back in it failed once again.
I suspect the 2230 SSD NVMe to CF Express Type B adapters are of bad quality, and thus fail easier, mine failed in 10 months approximately.
These cards are good whilst they work, but other than that the adapters that allow them to work are useless and result in their failure, whether it's ZITAY or SinTech, I suspect both companies source from the same places and thus sell such things.
Great video mate.
So after 7 months - does the card (ssd) work without any issues?
Cheers.
The card has been working fine for the last 7 months without any issues. I have shot almost all of my videos and photos on it and haven’t had any issues or data loss.
@@ElectronicsWizardry that's awesome.
Thanks 😉
@@ElectronicsWizardry would you think this would work for sony a6700
It would not. Those use cfexpress type A and are to small for ssd@@beyondmax1
so awesome - hella wizardy!
Maybe you should peel off the paper sticker before applying thermal paste?
Do you know if these exist for Type A?
I don't think these exist for CF-x type A. I think type A is too small for any off the shelf SSD to fit inside. There are some adapters that have a cable coming out of a type A slot and will mount the drive somewhere else on the camera.
Type A there tend to be external ribbon adapters- an inelegant and jenky solution, but it does exist, more or less.
Try to use Corsair MP600 1TB ssd for 8K raw. With the 1TB MP600 I was able to record continuous 8K raw (NON LT) for 30 minutes on the R5 without frame drop. After 600GB the ssd start dropping frames every 14 seconds
I have this exact setup and my r5 buffers out after 5 seconds, I tried the mp600 1tb and a 2tb adata both same results. only trying 4k 60fps
@@Highigan for what I can see. the only way to have stable performace is by using a regular CFexpress card
@gsanchez922 yea generally agree. While there are combos that are reliable, why risk footage and downtime on an otherwise expensive setup by saving a bit on media.
@@ElectronicsWizardryThanks god those memories has become more affordable
@gsanchez922 yea the early days of cf express was extremely expensive and the diy route seemed to make more sense. With current prices buying a card seems to make more sense.
Hi, is it ok to attach thermal grease right on the sticker? I'm afraid to remove its sticker because of it's warranty.
Should be fine to attach thermal grease to the sticker. Slightly worse for thermal transfer, but likely won't matter here.
How much is minimum write speed?
Very Good Video!
Hey I bought Western Digital WD SN740 1TB and Zitay adapter but unfortunately I have problems with the shutter button to make videos with the GH6. Often it records not when I press the shutter button, but when I take my finger off it. So register late. Anyone have this problem? Thank you
amigo, desabilite no menu a função REC no Obturador. Eu tinha esse problema também com qualquer cartão. Espero ter ajudado. Sua mensagem me ajudou a tomar a decisão. Eu estava com medo de comprar SN740, não sabia se iria funcionar. Você foi a primeira pessoa a informar se o SN740 funcionou com GH6. Obrigado por compartilhar.
Anyone know of a version of this for an external drive like a Samsung T7?
Would something like a m.2 external drive work as a diy t7 they make adapters for sata and nvme m.2 drives that connect to usb like other external ssds. I don’t know of any in the exact same form factor as a t7 if you have a mount designed for those drives.
Hey man, I have an All In one Positivo Union C4500A-21 Intel Celeron Dual-Core Windows 10 Home Screen 22", I'm not American, I'm Brazilian and I'm just commenting here because I can't find any videos that teach how to do this in my country , and I came to ask because I saw your video, turning an all-in-one into a monitor, I want to know if it is possible to turn this all in one into a monitor, for a pc gamer.(i'm using traslator)
If you create a card with a gen 4 NVMe, there will be no Problem for 8K 60 fps RAW recording. Here is my test: ua-cam.com/video/frETvIE-egk/v-deo.htmlsi=9Afz8h_vyNgTGcmj