@Rob Inson I don't remember, probably the need for Hanoverian troops in particular along with troops from Braunschweig, and Hesse-Kassel(and others to lesser extent) to fill its ranks...Then I guess the 6th coalition part is self-explanatory. As is waterloo.
Franklin is the reason we're all here. He convinced the Dutch to sell us arms, and the French to commit their troops and navy to the cause. He's electric!
Godspeed to Tom Wilkinson. One of the finest actors of the last few decades. He had much more to give us. His casting as Dr. Franklin took me by a surprise that was superseded only by how much he embodied perfectly the character of Franklin to be gleaned from his own writings. In my family, Franklin has been a hero for centuries.
I'm watching the new Franklin show on Apple TV and your comment still rings true. No disrespect to the great Michael Douglas, but nobody can hold a candle to Tom Wilkinson's Ben Franklin.
Ben's wit and familiarity with New England attitudes. Remember Ben was born and raised in Boston. Ben's unique wit to tell a story exposing both sides while subtlely disclosing his preference in how he concludes the story. Also, Ben was at this time legendary - worldwide, for his Newton-like work on electricity. Worldwide called Doctor, though possessing only a few years of formal education, Ben was worldwide assumed to be a genius.
If anybody deserved the honorific Doctor -- as, the lexicographer Doctor Johnson and the like -- it was Franklin. Highly respected for the scientific studies he conducted in middle age and a member of the Royal Academy of Sciences, he also had extensive diplomatic experience in England and France and was a polymath of the first order (yet never a mere dilletante). He combined a deep knowledge of classical political theory with a flair for public relations and plain-speaking, plus a native shrewdness, that made him a highly effective proponent of the American cause. He is also consistently voted "the Founding Father I'd most like to have a beer with."
@@roberthaworth8991 He was also the ONLY Founding Father To Sign All THREE of the Founding Documents!!! Declaration of Independence Articles Of Confederation (which is why in the first paragraph the next document has the words: In Order To Form A More Perfect Union!!) And The Constitution of the United States Of America!
It's called a Sedan Chair. Benjamin Franklin, nearing 70 when the Second Continental Congress began, was suffering from gout, meaning he cannot walk long distances, and therefore had to be carried in his sedan chair.
***** Indeed. Riders Dawes, Prescott and Revere never said "the British are coming" because the colonists considered themselves to be British. It would be the same as if someone rode into town saying "the Americans are coming, the Americans are coming!"
DaftSwank I'm always of the opinion that if you can play the part well it doesn't matter where you hail from. I don't think a single American viewing this would have any problem with a British man playing one of our founding fathers especially if he plays him this well.
There are a group of tribal people somewhere in the eastern hemisphere that attack civilized people everytime they tread on their island merely for s bit of discovery. Those tribal people maintain their reaction as a form of hostility. They have remained tribal for hundreds if not thousands of years, and are now being protected from anyone entering their island. THAT is a prime example of anti-moderate people that should be castrated.
The way they have all the members of the Continental Congress bow to one another in respect, i.e. a clever way to show their cultural mannerisms still have direct ties to Britain, is a wonderful visual touch. And also wonderful visual storytelling that as the series continues and they gain their independence and form their own country, the bowing ceases to continue.
*Love the gallant civility* of Franklin arriving in a sedan chair and the gentlemen gently tipping their tricorne hats to him after his wry bon mot. 🟥⬜🟦⭐ Thanks for posting!
I think Franklin's value among the founding fathers was that he seemed best equipped to take the long view of their actions. This could have been due to the fact that he was a fair bit older than many of the other founding fathers. He seemed to have this ability to be simultaneously in and above the fray, and therefore, with his brilliance and wit, to perceive clearly what posterity would make of the achievements of the men in the Continental Congress.
Did my thesis on him and I’d say that and being the ultimate salesman too. He saw the long term US in tight situations & also broker a deal with the French. When I read the details of that French trip, HOLY SMOKES Franklin was a MONSTER talented diplomat. So glad I studied him looking back
I thought this movies was wonderfully cast. Paul Giamanti finally helped tell the story of John Adams so that he may one day get the credit he deserves as one of out elite founding fathers. Hurray!
He was OK. Blew his top too easily, too extreme-ly, and too frequently in my opinion. But he did a good job conveying the value Adams placed on principle. He was "all in" and stuck to his guns.
In the movie "1776", when Franklin arrives at the PA State House in his sedan chair he pays off the two porters with a few coins and the remark, "There you go. Now, right back to gaol (jail) with you!"
Tom Wilkerson's portrayal of Franklin in this series is amazing. I would highly recommend if you haven't seen it already the Ken Burns documentary on Ben Franklin. It's fantastic.
Among the Founding Fathers, only Washington and Franklin commanded the respect and attention of all former colonists in the newly formed United States. Where Washington lacked wit or an entrepreneurial spirit, Franklin had a surfeit of both. Where Franklin had no military mind, Washington proved himself to be a national leader on the battlefield and in his conduct. An election between the two of them would have been an amazing spectacle for any nascent republic in an age of monarchy.
Actually, Washington wasn't a bad businessman himself. Aside from his speculations in land, he recognized, as most of his contemporaries did not, that tobacco was not a profitable crop in the long run. It was very common for tobacco planters to maintain a good standard of living only because they slipped further in to debt each year. They could service the debts, and buy what they wanted, but never get out of debt. This often resulted in bankruptcy, or estates being sold off rather than passed to heirs. Washington understood this and, even before the revolution, began switching over from tobacco to wheat and other food crops. This made Mount Vernon profitable and allowed him to pass it on to Martha and her descendants.
Washington certainly did proved himself good at the battle feilds, even in his position as President, hes a rare type of leader in my book, a leader who is not power hungry, vauge with corruption as most leaders do, cocky etc. Every leader in the world should take Washington’s examples on what a ture leader is and how to act like one. Staying out of war against England, which kinda strained his alliance with France, is no doubt one of the good decisions he had made as the Nation back then is still young and its man power is severely limited.
@@firemangan2731His leadership is unquestionable. His ability as a General - meh. He somehow convinced men to stay through some horrid Winters. But as a general he wasn’t incredible imo
Most people dont know alot about Benjamin Franklin. He was dirt poor when he was growing up in America. He slept in stables, churches, whatever he can find. He had no money whatsoever. Yet when he died, he was one of the wealthiest men in America. Some say he was the wealthiest man in America. He was one of the leading voices for the abolition of slavery. He & Benjamin Rush founded America's first anti-slavery society. He was one of the smartest men of that time. He was also very religious.
There is, but do not try to convince people of that today. We are all so caught up in ourselves that we, generally speaking, have little respect for anyone other than our own narrow priorities. Look around and you will see it clearly.
TOM WILKINSON IS AMAZING HIS ROLES IN THE FULL MONTEY RUSH HOUR SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE PATRIOT BATMAN BEGINS WHAT A TALENT AND HIS ROLE AS BEN FRANKLIN IN JOHN ADAMS SPOT ON
@mollesjohn "If Franklin was the very person who made the appeal for prayer, one could argue he was the MOST, not the LEAST religious person in the Continental Congress" Franklin did make the appeal for prayer. According to Madison's notes at the Constitutional Convention, he did. You're trying to create the impression that Franklin did not concern himself with religion and that he was a secular person. Franklin was not a christian, but was religious in his own way.
This group of actors has spoiled it for anyone else that might ever play the part of a founding father because they're performances are like the gold standard, the definitive version, at least for me. Now I can only see one Franklin, one Adams, one Mrs. Adams, one Washington, one Jefferson etc. it's as close as we ever might get to really seeing what it was like then. Watching this and Band Of Brothers always blows my mind, the two greatest "films" if you will of all time. BTW, somewhere floating around there is a great behind the scenes documentary on the John Adams series, it's crazy how they blended CGI and real life elements, you just won't believe how they did all of it. It's as good as the series itself. All that I just said could be wrong, but I haven't been incorrect since like 1974, so it's a pretty good bet you can take all of it to the bank, or the manure pile, readers choice. Just remember after reading this you automatically incur a nominal financial commitment to me and it is compulsory. In God we trust, all others pay cash.
Rip Tom Wilkinson. For his role as Benjamin Franklin in John Adams Miniseries, Joe Kennedy Sr in The Kennedys Miniseries, Reverdy Johnson in The Conspirator.
An epic could be made just on that guy. 1st storm chaser: when horse back riding with friends a funnel cloud touched down and Franklin charged after it to make closer observation, shouting over his shoulder for the others to take cover.
@ThomasAnime No. Did you see the series? Rutledge is portrayed as somebody a stubborn individual unwilling to compromise for the common good. It was Ben's form of expressing his dislike for people like Rutledge without directly mentioning him. Rutledge bowed down because it was the polite thing to do.
@Robertz1986 Franklin was religious in his own way. He might have not been evangelical Christian like Benjamin Rush, Roger Sherman, Samuel Adams, or Patrick Henry. Franklin did pray when he felt there was a need for it. When he did, he quoted Bible verses mostly bc the culture in Colonial America at the time was very Biblical & Christian. He was not a Christian though. He did describe himself as a deist but one that believes "God governs in the affairs of men."
Of a man that had so many affairs with women he's a ladies man. But when it comes to how this country should be run, he doesn't fuck around. Benjamin Franklin said to one of the women who asked what set of government that they put on this country he said the truest words that also described America today, Republic, "if" you can keep it. And he was right.
Jefferson was the most brilliant of the "founding fathers," Adams was the most tenacious and Washington was the most noble, but Franklin was the wittiest! :-)
@@briansheehan5256 Hamilton was indeed an intelligent man and there is no doubt the foundations he laid for the American banking and other American financial systems played a massive part in shaping the future of the country. Though the man was also extremely elitist, was previously a slave trader, and married into a family that owned slaves and managed their estates. Smart guy, but not nearly as nice as the musical makes him out to be.
@@rooneytutoring Hamilton was a master of international currencies by the time he was 14 years old, and during his employment at Beekman & Cruger he was exposed to the slave trade. I wouldn't call him an "elitist" for supporting a Government run by educated men.
@@briansheehan5256 I mean he was extremely intelligent but profoundly stupid at the same time. Thankfully that's exactly how the show portrays him, because that's how his comrades viewed him, and how society rightly remembers him.
That would be me in this kind of crowd, except I would be recieving a barrage of elbow jabs and dagger stares from my wife and then later the lecture on embarrassment and disdain for my behavior.😬
I like the fact that Franklin has this south irish accent makes sense people have this image that early amercians spoke in fully amercian accents but that's not always the case in the 1700s it was only starting so of course some would speak amercian others with strange English accents
That's not an Irish accent, it's what would have been a standard accent in much of Southern England in the 18th century - before the advent of Received Pronunciation. Franklin had 100% English ancestry.
I think he's ONE OF the best things in human history. Jesus is the #1 best thing in human history. Without him, Ben probably wouldn't even have been born.
I’m trying to remember who “The Reverend Ebeneezer Slither” was. I seem to recall there was a very charismatic preacher at the time, but can’t recall the exact name. “Ebeneezer Slither” was that his real name or a nickname?
IN POINT OF HISTORICAL FACT BEN FRANKLIN DID NOT SHOW UP TO THE SECOND CONTINENTAL CONGRESS IN A SEDAN CHAIR THAT METHOD OF TRANSPORTATION WAS USED AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION BUT IT WAS PERFECT TO GIVE THE MESSAGE OF HIS IMPORTANCE
RIP Tom Wilkinson. Such a memorable performance in an amazing series.
Can't believe he's gone. 😢
His roles have always been so memorable. :(
Tom was a great actor. He played General Cornwallis in the Patriot movie and Benjamin Franklin in the John Adams series.
I'm just now finding out that he is gone. One of the GREAT talents of our age.
@@EagleFangBasketball22 And him in the movie Valkyrie as Friedrich Fromm.
I love that during the same decade, Tom Wilkinson played both Lord Cornwallis *and* Benjamin Franklin. The man's versatility spans history.
Amazing acting
i think his best may be as Gen Fromm in Valkarye
RIP, he was a masterclass at his work. 🙏🏼
Yep he was in the Patriot
He also played mob boss in Batman Begins.
"They have violated the fundamental rule of warfare, which is always to let the British win."
Aka...Get the germans to win for you, like the 7 years war...then the napoleonic wars in
Both the 6th coalition, and waterloo
That's when the the Massachusetts delegation knew what he was really doing.
@@granddukeofmecklenburg swarthy germs still seething about living in the anglos shadow
@@granddukeofmecklenburg What on earth are you talking about.
@Rob Inson I don't remember, probably the need for Hanoverian troops in particular along with troops from Braunschweig, and Hesse-Kassel(and others to lesser extent) to fill its ranks...Then I guess
the 6th coalition part is self-explanatory.
As is waterloo.
I'm a huge fan of Benjamin Franklin. I even carry pictures of him in my wallet.
Mike Donahue me too i even carry hundreds of them all the time ... chicks can call me any time =)))
did you match the joke to the video or did you match the video to the joke?.....either way hats off to you. good one.
Why not be a huge fan of me!?
I, on the other hand, am a huge fan of Lincoln. I wonder why am I so poor?
@@AbrahamLincoln4
Because you were an awful tyrant whose name we should use today as an insult.
Franklin is the reason we're all here. He convinced the Dutch to sell us arms, and the French to commit their troops and navy to the cause. He's electric!
This movie was such piece of crap….the Spanish did a lot more than the Dutch and were not even credited….
@@carlosa9298 You are 100% correct my friend. Everyone hates the English, especially the Spanish lol.
what on earth makes you think you would not be there of things had gone differently? 😳
@@The_OneManCrowd you realise the men in this video are mostly English, right?
@@greg_4201 What?
Godspeed to Tom Wilkinson. One of the finest actors of the last few decades. He had much more to give us. His casting as Dr. Franklin took me by a surprise that was superseded only by how much he embodied perfectly the character of Franklin to be gleaned from his own writings. In my family, Franklin has been a hero for centuries.
Now that's how you make an entrance.
No one has played Benjamin Franklin with such perfection before or since. Rest in Peace, Mr. Wilkinson 🕊❤
I'm watching the new Franklin show on Apple TV and your comment still rings true. No disrespect to the great Michael Douglas, but nobody can hold a candle to Tom Wilkinson's Ben Franklin.
I would suggest Howard da Silva would be right up there as well.
I like 1776 musical ben franklin
This is why he's on the $100 bill.
best wing man you can have to pick up the ladies.
@@mikekinsella2822 Some of those Voltaire letters are absolutely hilarious 🤣
Not the only reason.
Maybe that's what made Franklin so special. 😂
Incredible performance, that just about knocks the life out ya. Truly exceptional, from a truly exceptional talent. RIP Tom Wilkinson
Tom Wilkinson disappears into any character or historical figure he portrays. I love this performance by him. He brings Franklin to life.
Meanwhile several years earlier in The Patriot....
@@JnEricsonx Ha yes! And also much later in "Michael Clayton"
Totally agree. Also his performance as Reverdy Johnson in The Conspirator and Joe Kennedy Sr in The Kennedys Miniseries.
RIP, Tom Wilkinson (1948-2023)
No one, and I mean NO ONE, can touch Benjamin Franklin. Scholar, writer, activist, diplomat. Franklin was the OG.
Christian P Schneider agreed!
Don't forget playboy celebrity.
Sean Oops, yes! LOL
Scientist too
Well, he IS nicknamed "The First American."
Ben's wit and familiarity with New England attitudes. Remember Ben was born and raised in Boston. Ben's unique wit to tell a story exposing both sides while subtlely disclosing his preference in how he concludes the story. Also, Ben was at this time legendary - worldwide, for his Newton-like work on electricity. Worldwide called Doctor, though possessing only a few years of formal education, Ben was worldwide assumed to be a genius.
If anybody deserved the honorific Doctor -- as, the lexicographer Doctor Johnson and the like -- it was Franklin. Highly respected for the scientific studies he conducted in middle age and a member of the Royal Academy of Sciences, he also had extensive diplomatic experience in England and France and was a polymath of the first order (yet never a mere dilletante). He combined a deep knowledge of classical political theory with a flair for public relations and plain-speaking, plus a native shrewdness, that made him a highly effective proponent of the American cause. He is also consistently voted "the Founding Father I'd most like to have a beer with."
He was like a global rockstar who did politics. Honestly the secret weapon of the revolution imo
@@roberthaworth8991 He was also the ONLY Founding Father To Sign All THREE of the Founding Documents!!!
Declaration of Independence
Articles Of Confederation (which is why in the first paragraph the next document has the words: In Order To Form A More Perfect Union!!)
And The Constitution of the United States Of America!
The atomic age began shall we say, with Ben and his kite.
@@johnschuh8616 A truly shocking experiment!
It's called a Sedan Chair. Benjamin Franklin, nearing 70 when the Second Continental Congress began, was suffering from gout, meaning he cannot walk long distances, and therefore had to be carried in his sedan chair.
He actually arrived normally to continental Congress but arrived in that way to the Constitutional convention
A lineage of many conveyances and vehicles have derived from the "sedan."
I've got a Sedan too
Oh thank you. I always wondered what they were called.
@@voodoolou3793 hehe yep
In the show Franklin was the funniest guy. My favorite quote, "like fish, guests start to rot after 3 days"
Stink after 3 days...not rot
@John Gilliam A lot of Franklin's aphorisms in this series are taken from the Almanac.
@John Gilliam What a delightful human being you must be.
I love this series and what an amazing performance by the great Tom Wilkinson. I am saddened to hear of his passing. He will be missed. 😔😔😔
Kudos and high fives to Tom Wilkinson -- a Brit no less -- for playing my favorite founding father so brilliantly!
He also did General Cornwallis very well and he had a good performance in Valkyrie.
Peace.
*****
Indeed. Riders Dawes, Prescott and Revere never said "the British are coming" because the colonists considered themselves to be British. It would be the same as if someone rode into town saying "the Americans are coming, the Americans are coming!"
DaftSwank I'm always of the opinion that if you can play the part well it doesn't matter where you hail from. I don't think a single American viewing this would have any problem with a British man playing one of our founding fathers especially if he plays him this well.
(@RobertKaydoo) Indeed. If Paul Revere's famous ride to Lexington did happen, he would more likely have announced "The redcoats are coming!"
the actual phrase was, "The Regulars are coming." Just got home from Boston, and learned this little tidbit along a Freedom Trail tour.
"I believe anyone not in favor of moderation and compromise should be castrated"
Well Mr.Franklin, you have a lot of castration to do today.
His task is even harder today
MrKajithecat I love this quote. Does anyone know if its true or if he said anything like it?
Great question!
There is nothing moderate about being a monk.
There are a group of tribal people somewhere in the eastern hemisphere that attack civilized people everytime they tread on their island merely for s bit of discovery. Those tribal people maintain their reaction as a form of hostility. They have remained tribal for hundreds if not thousands of years, and are now being protected from anyone entering their island. THAT is a prime example of anti-moderate people that should be castrated.
By far his best Role, RIP Mr Wilkinson
'Extreme moderate'... !
Amazing performance by Tom Wilkinson. Would love to see him again in a Ben Franklin biopic. One can dream...
Martin Duplessis I agree 100 percent!
Yes would love a bio pic of Benjamin Franklin or even a bio series . Atleast 10 episodes.
The way they have all the members of the Continental Congress bow to one another in respect, i.e. a clever way to show their cultural mannerisms still have direct ties to Britain, is a wonderful visual touch. And also wonderful visual storytelling that as the series continues and they gain their independence and form their own country, the bowing ceases to continue.
Ben Franklin: "How shall I put it..... stones" 😂 😂
I was already laughing before Ben got out of his carriage. An excellent introduction to the man!
One of the greatest of all time. R.I.P
RIP Tom Wilkinson. A great Benjamin Franklin.
That entrance in itself deserves an applause 🤣
*Love the gallant civility* of Franklin arriving in a
sedan chair and the gentlemen gently tipping
their tricorne hats to him after his wry bon mot.
🟥⬜🟦⭐ Thanks for posting!
We just lost him... what a damn robbery. Rest in peace, Tom 😢
Everyone is so formal. Love it!
@Colin Killian What we need to do is scrap the modern culture that glorifies trash.
As formal as one can be while talking about castration, anyway.
Perfectly said. "An extreme moderate."
I think Franklin's value among the founding fathers was that he seemed best equipped to take the long view of their actions. This could have been due to the fact that he was a fair bit older than many of the other founding fathers. He seemed to have this ability to be simultaneously in and above the fray, and therefore, with his brilliance and wit, to perceive clearly what posterity would make of the achievements of the men in the Continental Congress.
Did my thesis on him and I’d say that and being the ultimate salesman too. He saw the long term US in tight situations & also broker a deal with the French. When I read the details of that French trip, HOLY SMOKES Franklin was a MONSTER talented diplomat. So glad I studied him looking back
He was our Founding Grandpa. I say that with respect.
MR WILKINSON, YOU WERE A GREAT ACTOR AND WILL BE MISSED, RIP!
The same actor who played Lord Cornwallis in "The Patriot"
Makes it kind of cool doesn't it? He has played both sides of the war.
Just like Benedict Arnold
AKABoondock19 ZING!
Terrell Allen
Truly revolutionary humor
AKABoondock19 HA!
This was inspiring . . . Ben Franklin is my favorite figure from U.S. history . . .
RIP Tom Wilkinson
These actors make me proud. A wonderful series.
I thought this movies was wonderfully cast. Paul Giamanti finally helped tell the story of John Adams so that he may one day get the credit he deserves as one of out elite founding fathers. Hurray!
Oh 100%. John Adams had to be the sane one out of the bunch lowkey lol
He was OK. Blew his top too easily, too extreme-ly, and too frequently in my opinion. But he did a good job conveying the value Adams placed on principle. He was "all in" and stuck to his guns.
Wilkinson is simply mesmerizing as Ben Franklin.
“They have VIOLATED the FUNDAMENTAL rule of warfare, which is to always let the British win!”
It's a good thing that he didn't have to face off lord cornwallis...oh...wait.
That would've been confusing as hell, yep.
"Sound the re... wtf?!"
Thanks for putting this up. Wilkinson definitely pulled off Franklin's character very well, as is thoroughly demonstrated here.
The Founding Father who found time to be fascinated by a swivel chair. He's amazing 😂
After watching this series, I gotta say the casting is damn spot on, god..
I love that he rolled into town being carried in a box
In the movie "1776", when Franklin arrives at the PA State House in his sedan chair he pays off the two porters with a few coins and the remark, "There you go. Now, right back to gaol (jail) with you!"
He had gout badly and had a hard time walking.
@@paulbrasier372 sure didnt stop from doing the "wild thang".
No one will ever top this performance of Franklin.
Those manners and bows. And the way they used their walking sticks to applaud. Would that OUR manners today should be as courtly.
Moderates are what the country sadly lacks these days.
Ol' Ben was a character, perhaps the great man of mystery this country has ever produced.
He was no mystery. Just pure skill in what he did.
I think because of social distancing,bowing like that might make a comeback 🤔
😆😆❤️
That would be soooo cool! Of course, we need good stylish hats to tip as well.
RIP Tom Wilkinson 😢
Now he's with the real Benjamin Franklin.
RIP Tom Wilkinson
Franklin is a man I would be honored and terrified to meet!
Tom Wilkerson's portrayal of Franklin in this series is amazing. I would highly recommend if you haven't seen it already the Ken Burns documentary on Ben Franklin. It's fantastic.
Tavington, damn him. Damn that man!
@Hagmire84 Well idk my lord...it's really, quite nice. 🤷♂️
Franklin was the Yogi Berra of politicians.
I laughed way too hard at this true statement
WOW... He was like a KING, What a incredible man
Great founding father, that's why he is on the 100 bill
Rutledge throwing shade as he walks off lool
Among the Founding Fathers, only Washington and Franklin commanded the respect and attention of all former colonists in the newly formed United States. Where Washington lacked wit or an entrepreneurial spirit, Franklin had a surfeit of both. Where Franklin had no military mind, Washington proved himself to be a national leader on the battlefield and in his conduct. An election between the two of them would have been an amazing spectacle for any nascent republic in an age of monarchy.
That would have been amazing.
Actually, Washington wasn't a bad businessman himself. Aside from his speculations in land, he recognized, as most of his contemporaries did not, that tobacco was not a profitable crop in the long run. It was very common for tobacco planters to maintain a good standard of living only because they slipped further in to debt each year. They could service the debts, and buy what they wanted, but never get out of debt. This often resulted in bankruptcy, or estates being sold off rather than passed to heirs. Washington understood this and, even before the revolution, began switching over from tobacco to wheat and other food crops. This made Mount Vernon profitable and allowed him to pass it on to Martha and her descendants.
Washington certainly did proved himself good at the battle feilds, even in his position as President, hes a rare type of leader in my book, a leader who is not power hungry, vauge with corruption as most leaders do, cocky etc.
Every leader in the world should take Washington’s examples on what a ture leader is and how to act like one.
Staying out of war against England, which kinda strained his alliance with France, is no doubt one of the good decisions he had made as the Nation back then is still young and its man power is severely limited.
Yep. Both the GOATS of the revolution. The leader and the statesman.
@@firemangan2731His leadership is unquestionable. His ability as a General - meh. He somehow convinced men to stay through some horrid Winters. But as a general he wasn’t incredible imo
Imaging being a spectator to Ben Franklin introducing himself and bowing to John Adams what a moment!
The irony is beautiful.
Most people dont know alot about Benjamin Franklin. He was dirt poor when he was growing up in America. He slept in stables, churches, whatever he can find. He had no money whatsoever. Yet when he died, he was one of the wealthiest men in America. Some say he was the wealthiest man in America. He was one of the leading voices for the abolition of slavery. He & Benjamin Rush founded America's first anti-slavery society. He was one of the smartest men of that time. He was also very religious.
There is something to be said for bowing to someone you respect.
There is, but do not try to convince people of that today. We are all so caught up in ourselves that we, generally speaking, have little respect for anyone other than our own narrow priorities. Look around and you will see it clearly.
HBO need to do a series on Franklin! Absolutely love his sense of humor
A historian needs to write a new biography worthy of the man like McCullough did for Adams and Chernow did for Hamilton.
@@njebei I'm reading the Alexis Coe bio of George Washington and it's terrific.
@@njebei What about Thomas S. Kidd's book about Benjamin Franklin?
Rest in peace
I was not too surprised when I read that Franklin was like a rockstar back then in other countries. People sold merchandise with his face on it
Rip tom wilkinson 😢
This is a great series.
It's unique that Tom Wilkinson is Gen. Corwallis at the start of the 2000s and Benjamin Franklin at the end of the 2000s.
He leveled up
TOM WILKINSON IS AMAZING HIS ROLES IN THE FULL MONTEY RUSH HOUR SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE PATRIOT BATMAN BEGINS WHAT A TALENT AND HIS ROLE AS BEN FRANKLIN IN JOHN ADAMS SPOT ON
What a series. So, so good.
I love you Ben Franklin, I aspire to be like you one day :D
@mollesjohn "If Franklin was the very person who made the appeal for prayer, one could argue he was the MOST, not the LEAST religious person in the Continental Congress"
Franklin did make the appeal for prayer. According to Madison's notes at the Constitutional Convention, he did. You're trying to create the impression that Franklin did not concern himself with religion and that he was a secular person. Franklin was not a christian, but was religious in his own way.
This group of actors has spoiled it for anyone else that might ever play the part of a founding father because they're performances are like the gold standard, the definitive version, at least for me. Now I can only see one Franklin, one Adams, one Mrs. Adams, one Washington, one Jefferson etc. it's as close as we ever might get to really seeing what it was like then. Watching this and Band Of Brothers always blows my mind, the two greatest "films" if you will of all time. BTW, somewhere floating around there is a great behind the scenes documentary on the John Adams series, it's crazy how they blended CGI and real life elements, you just won't believe how they did all of it. It's as good as the series itself. All that I just said could be wrong, but I haven't been incorrect since like 1974, so it's a pretty good bet you can take all of it to the bank, or the manure pile, readers choice. Just remember after reading this you automatically incur a nominal financial commitment to me and it is compulsory. In God we trust, all others pay cash.
We violated the rule of war- that is to always let the British win
- Benjamin Franklin, the master of revolutions..
Ben Franklin is one of the most important people in Western Civilization
1:11
We should start doing this again as a society.
There is still no show or movie about Franklin as a young man. I love to see that.
Rip Tom Wilkinson. For his role as Benjamin Franklin in John Adams Miniseries, Joe Kennedy Sr in The Kennedys Miniseries, Reverdy Johnson in The Conspirator.
“I am 99.9% sure that is not the real Benjamin Franklin”
Everyone is a gangsta til ol’ Ben Franklin coming riding in on his Sedan Chair
Can we speak in such a gentleman way today?
I suppose we could, no reason this generation cant find a way to refine our already innate sense of wit and dry loathing
I think we could, but if we did, no one born after 2000 would be able to understand us.
Especially the amounts vocabulary they used in those days.
An epic could be made just on that guy. 1st storm chaser: when horse back riding with friends a funnel cloud touched down and Franklin charged after it to make closer observation, shouting over his shoulder for the others to take cover.
@ThomasAnime
No. Did you see the series? Rutledge is portrayed as somebody a stubborn individual unwilling to compromise for the common good. It was Ben's form of expressing his dislike for people like Rutledge without directly mentioning him. Rutledge bowed down because it was the polite thing to do.
1:11 Those bows tho😂
Those bows indicates they realized they just got roasted 😂
I'm a extreme moderate !!...haha love it .....Oscar Wilde quote of " everything in moderation except moderation " seems apt !!
Rip.
We need to bring back a few things like tipping hats, and sedan chairs.
@Robertz1986 Franklin was religious in his own way. He might have not been evangelical Christian like Benjamin Rush, Roger Sherman, Samuel Adams, or Patrick Henry. Franklin did pray when he felt there was a need for it. When he did, he quoted Bible verses mostly bc the culture in Colonial America at the time was very Biblical & Christian. He was not a Christian though. He did describe himself as a deist but one that believes "God governs in the affairs of men."
Of a man that had so many affairs with women he's a ladies man. But when it comes to how this country should be run, he doesn't fuck around. Benjamin Franklin said to one of the women who asked what set of government that they put on this country he said the truest words that also described America today, Republic, "if" you can keep it. And he was right.
Jefferson was the most brilliant of the "founding fathers," Adams was the most tenacious and Washington was the most noble, but Franklin was the wittiest! :-)
Hamilton was the most brilliant of the Founding Fathers.
@@briansheehan5256 Hamilton was indeed an intelligent man and there is no doubt the foundations he laid for the American banking and other American financial systems played a massive part in shaping the future of the country. Though the man was also extremely elitist, was previously a slave trader, and married into a family that owned slaves and managed their estates. Smart guy, but not nearly as nice as the musical makes him out to be.
@@rooneytutoring Hamilton was a master of international currencies by the time he was 14 years old, and during his employment at Beekman & Cruger he was exposed to the slave trade. I wouldn't call him an "elitist" for supporting a Government run by educated men.
@@briansheehan5256 I mean he was extremely intelligent but profoundly stupid at the same time. Thankfully that's exactly how the show portrays him, because that's how his comrades viewed him, and how society rightly remembers him.
but jefferson had 600 slaves...
My favoritex, the most ecentric and wise of the founding fathers ❤
Maybe it's time to have a new TV miniseries about Ben Franklin, agree?...no?
Our most underrated president.
That would be me in this kind of crowd, except I would be recieving a barrage of elbow jabs and dagger stares from my wife and then later the lecture on embarrassment and disdain for my behavior.😬
Why would you even allow your wife to do either
I like the fact that Franklin has this south irish accent makes sense people have this image that early amercians spoke in fully amercian accents but that's not always the case in the 1700s it was only starting so of course some would speak amercian others with strange English accents
That's not an Irish accent, it's what would have been a standard accent in much of Southern England in the 18th century - before the advent of Received Pronunciation. Franklin had 100% English ancestry.
Franklin is my favorite founding father.
If you don't think Benjamin Franklin is like the best thing in human history you're wrong.
He's my favorite American for certain.
I think he's ONE OF the best things in human history. Jesus is the #1 best thing in human history. Without him, Ben probably wouldn't even have been born.
@@PWNINSWAGMASTER well said!
Caesar was the greatest human.
@@VargasJulio39 I like Sid Caesar
I’m trying to remember who “The Reverend Ebeneezer Slither” was. I seem to recall there was a very charismatic preacher at the time, but can’t recall the exact name. “Ebeneezer Slither” was that his real name or a nickname?
IN POINT OF HISTORICAL FACT BEN FRANKLIN DID NOT SHOW UP TO THE SECOND CONTINENTAL CONGRESS IN A SEDAN CHAIR THAT METHOD OF TRANSPORTATION WAS USED AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION BUT IT WAS PERFECT TO GIVE THE MESSAGE OF HIS IMPORTANCE