As a controller main I really love the ability to smoke for my team when I'm dead. Allows me to play more aggressively without the fear of negatively effecting my team on retakes or defense.
Honesty it's not like that you can only smoke the place where you are dead (for example if u are dead on A then u can only smoke A) but yeah still pretty cool
That’s exactly what I’m thinking, I love playing controller but my duelist teammates don’t entry half the time and I have to stay alive to smoke, I can help entry if I need to but it’s not as devastating
@@Longjahn Please shut up, she is a femenine character and apparently Identifies as non binary, they force that shit up your throat ngl. No way youll catch me calling her a "they"
EXPERIMENT: while playing clove with available ult , iso pulls inside his ult Now you died inside ult now what are possibilities: 1. you revive and kill iso (OR) 2. due to end of iso ult timer both dies (waste to use clove ult in iso ult? ) (OR) 3. you died in iso ult, now immediatly you pressed ult (cloves) now where you respawn ? (respawns in map or some glich happens?) TRY THESE POSSIBILITIES PLEASE🤓
1. You can be revived inside iso's ult if you kill him while your ult(clove) is active (or it is already active before iso used his ult against you) since it is counted as a kill 2. I think clove dies first if Iso didn't manage to kill clove since iso's ult can last for 15 seconds 3. You respawn where Iso picked you up, therefore, you respawn in that part of the map Also, you can't use any abilities inside Iso's ult but I think you already know that. This all just possibilities too, I just answered with the datas I gathered. Educate me If I'm wrong.
The Karthus smokes are crazy, also this is a good change for Reyna/phoenix mains, so they can learn controllers while playing similarly to the old Reyna
@@chilldude85you are severely overestimating reyna mains they dont even have brain to understand that they can kill and have abilities at the same time
the new agent just got leaked, it’s codename is Clive, Clive goes by Zey/Zem and Zey are a sentinel. C ability is a grenade that sucks enemies into the middle and makes them vulnerable. The Q is a floor trap that when triggered traps an enemy for a set time while being marked, can be destroyed. E ability is a portal you can throw on to walls and teleport instantly to another portal when walked into. The Ultimate ability can rewind time if alive and teleports the player back to where they were 15 seconds ago, they have to be alive.
As a controller main I like her, but dislike the fact that non controller players will try to play her without any knowledge of how to smoke. Smoking when dead seems wrong to me, but along my first point, I'm concerned non-controllers will just troll teammates with bad smokes when dead. We will see.
Imagine this scenario: Clove is the last player standing vs another enemy, if they have ult and gets taken down: Does the round finish there or after the ult has been used or saved?
They definitely need to tweak the smoke a tad for how good it is. Simultaneous smokes with decent range that last a while and can be used in death? Yea they gotta nerf part of it tbh but they look so fun
EXPERIMENT: clove is last player standing with her available ult and she is attacker with spike, now if she dies, match ends ?? or can use ult and play round??
Well you need to activate the ult after you die in a short period so if you rev then the round will go on but you still need to kill the other in 12 sec otherwise you die.
It's only 12 seconds when she alive. 20 seconds smoke means she only has 10 second downtime, which is faster than omen 15 seconds -.-. It's pretty obvious her smoke last very short compared to other smoker
EXPERIMENT: clove has ult ready and died, immediately sage tried to revive clove AND also clove tried to use her ult both did it simultaneously ANY GLICH HAPPENS ??
The newer agents and their abilities don't mesh as well as the original ones. For example, all of KJ abilities are tech relates, phoenix are fire based, omens whole thing is shadow. In contrast, Iso has a wall and a vulnerable which is odd because his other abilities are made for one v ones. or deadlock who has a wall. I know deadlock is a sentinel and without it she would be too weak, but her whole thing is being a hunter right? Sova's kit also being hunter themed has recon abilities, and his other abilities are tied to a bow and arrow which makes them stick to a theme. I cant even find a theme in cloves abilities other than they are purple. I wouldn't be as annoyed if the early agents didn't have a very clear theme in their kits and characters.
Might be a bit of a stretch, but I'd say that Clove's abilities all revolve around life somehow. She can use her smoke whether she's alive or not (E), she can take life away (Q), she can "absorb" life (C) and she can bring herself back to life (X).
Post plant, this is a pretty insane ultimate. Imagine playing an angle 1v1, time's ticking, and you kill her, but then u gotta rush to spike for defuse, and she has 5 seconds to wait for you to start running before ulting. It's situational, but it makes it very annoying.
not insane,imagine u 1 vs 1 u need to kill ur opponent in 11/12 seconds/plant bomb ur enemy hide/run u die again,the enemy can defuse easily very bad for 1 vs 1 if u are the attacker
@@dereknichols4376 Except you forget situations where you play for time which is how you're supposed to do. You force a fight at 10 seconds left by playing distance. If you die, you res within 2 seconds, and bait out another fight and force spike to explode... 12 EXTRA seconds is all a guy needs to stay alive for to stop the defuse, in fact it's a hell of a lot of time. Except for viper/brimstone molly's , this is definitely the best ability to play time/post plant at a distance.
I agree it seems OP on paper. But in reality, it's like Sage's revive. The animation is long and it gives away the fact you're still there, coming back to life. It's easy to punish unless Clove has a teammate around to trade. The smokes is what I'm concerned about, that decay is absolutely gross
Man, the fact that she can place smokes while dead feels so broken because it ensures all your teammates can have smokes for cover regardless of you being dead or alive.
Wow she actually makes me want to play controller, she's like a mix of Reynas overheals and phasing with her ult and viper or fades decay. Plus being able to smoke even while dead plus if she can move around the area she died in she'll have comms better than anyone in the game
@@rev0live752thankfully the character isnt as ghey as i thought it would be. if we just ignore the fact that she is nonbinary or whatever it'll be fine
EXPERIMENT: clove after using ult, she will be like a dismissing reyna and then spawns, now in dismissing state, can she pass through deadlock wall? and also, will deadlocks sonic sensors activates while in clove dismiss state??
As a Deadlock main, I assume that Clove might be able to pass through the wall, but I think the sensor will still activate since it is based on sound. I think when Reyna is becoming invisible, the sensor still activates, and I assume it might be the same case here
Good players realize that she’s an alright controller. The only good thing going for her is that she can smoke after death, but her smokes only last 12 seconds so it’s fairly balanced. I’d still choose brimstone over her purely because of his moly + ult
I'm Reyna main mostly, because of her overheal and invulnerability effect, her ultimate is just extra buff for me. I touched some smokes and ngl, i loved playing brimstone because of his pad with smokes but i don't feel his other abilities that satisfies me because i always play more aggressive. Now i can play both, smokes and kill enemies because i think Clove is just pure made for me, and for the first time i feel like i'm gonna spam this character abilities and use probably all in one round. Good Job Valorant
I mean, i wasn't hyped about Deadlock. First time i saw her i only thought about "interesting character", but with her skills only barrier is mega useful tbh. I think this one is gonna be one of better picks because of after-death smokes and being able to help your team even for a while on her ultimate. For this agent set of skills are very useful, overheal, hp reduction that makes you opportunity to kill hit enemy with it even from classic, smokes and self-resurrection for 12s. or permament (depends on assist or kill). So the variance of her skills make it more powerful
2 things: 1-does the afterdeath smoke yo show up for the person who’s being spectated? 2-can you still pick up or plant the spike while just coming back to life?
what if the attacking team gets eliminated but clove gets killed last and has their ult and could still plant. does the round then not end when clove dies?
Yes I think she can survive based on the fact we can get the fake Yoru in the ult and thus wasting it. So Clove will die and come back, business as usual I think
What happens when an attacker Clove is the last one standing and gets killed? Do they still have the ability to self-revive, even if the defending team has already won?
Looking good to me, or interesting at least. Another one of these "rewarding a kill" type abilities, like Iso (and Reyna). It's an interesting way to keep the characters different playstyles a bit.
one question if attackers plant and kill everyone and the last one they kill is clove with ult does it end the round or force to wait for clove enemy to use ult?
She is kinda overpowered, Like a mix of Pheonix, Omen, and Neon. I can see the meta changing so that every team has a Clove, which i hope they can nerf her somehow (like no regenerating smokes when dead)
Yknow many moons ago i had said they should make someone with *some* of renata's abilities from league to Valorant...this person's abilties are very similar in a way and im happy about it lol. The ult namely being very similar to Renata's W that gives you a few seconds to get a kill or assist or you wont revive
this could be playable in soloq. when it comes to replacing omen in the meta on the other hand i am not so sure. Paranoia is just better than meddle, pick me up is conditional which is never great and the effect itself isn't the best either. I would consider shrouded step to be more versatile and consistent overall, given it can function as a supporting gap closer (for example following the Jett in her smoke), an escape tool and grants access to elevated positions. Then there is the one-way aspect, i will just assume the smokes are coded like brimstone, so clove loses quite a lot of very useful one-ways. The range limitation not to mention, and i think clove's smokes don't last 18s but don't quote me on that. (Edit: 12s, which gives her 18s of down time) The advantages clove has are the post death smokes, which is very hard to evaluate since there hasn't been such an ability in the game yet. As for the ults, neither of them greatly alter the way a round is played out, but again, from the shadows is a very versatile tool while not dead yet is, again, conditional
nah man I said that often "this agent is OP" but not gonna lie this looks way too strong I mean this is insane You can smoke, you can smoke after you died, you can overheal after a kill, your Q is removing 90 HP (with luck you hit the whole team + a raze nade all dead) and you can revive yourself... that happens when riot cant decide if they want to make a controller or duelist
You need to be in line of sight of the Q go get decayed, the decay doesn't last that long, it definitely is dodgeable. Smokes pad range is terrible and they last less than any other smoker (she can't stall, she can't take space). She is pretty solid though, but isn't overpowered as many people believe. If they die the team rotates Clove won't be able to help. However I believe she will be really useful in soloq. Can't wait to see the reynas who never touched a controller use smokes in the weirdest way possible.
I can already imagine so many players just gonna use this agent as a duelist and having no experience how to properly smoke lol
I mean *new players -.-
New players and Reyna mains
I can also imagine lots of griefers and toxic players autolocking her then die then spam smokes on you.
@@xrmza1623 please dont give them ideas
I bet ur dogwater too stop pretending ur better than bronze
As a controller main I really love the ability to smoke for my team when I'm dead. Allows me to play more aggressively without the fear of negatively effecting my team on retakes or defense.
Honesty it's not like that you can only smoke the place where you are dead (for example if u are dead on A then u can only smoke A) but yeah still pretty cool
@@chaitanyasoni1468 so you have the normal place range around your dead body, right?
@@johannesvetter4522It’s a little bit smaller
You're still not alive and contributing only with smokes so don't just die and think "now i can place my smokes safely"
That’s exactly what I’m thinking, I love playing controller but my duelist teammates don’t entry half the time and I have to stay alive to smoke, I can help entry if I need to but it’s not as devastating
That's op nerf chamber
Real
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means if theres a clove and sage we can finally get 7 kills in 1 round
pheonix, kayo, clove, sage
phoenix and Kayo dont give you extra kills
@@Gekkejoep23 they dont?
Maybe clove won't too
@@Viliv_seems like will, you can choose not to ult
Thank you for making a straightforward video and no bs.
She definitely has the best ability animations among the recent agents it's so fluid 😍
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@@Longjahn 🤓
@@Longjahn Please shut up, she is a femenine character and apparently Identifies as non binary, they force that shit up your throat ngl. No way youll catch me calling her a "they"
doing gods work amen@@Longjahn
no one cares @@Longjahn
EXPERIMENT:
while playing clove with available ult , iso pulls inside his ult
Now you died inside ult
now what are possibilities:
1. you revive and kill iso (OR)
2. due to end of iso ult timer both dies (waste to use clove ult in iso ult? ) (OR)
3. you died in iso ult, now immediatly you pressed ult (cloves) now where you respawn ? (respawns in map or some glich happens?)
TRY THESE POSSIBILITIES PLEASE🤓
1. You can be revived inside iso's ult if you kill him while your ult(clove) is active (or it is already active before iso used his ult against you) since it is counted as a kill
2. I think clove dies first if Iso didn't manage to kill clove since iso's ult can last for 15 seconds
3. You respawn where Iso picked you up, therefore, you respawn in that part of the map
Also, you can't use any abilities inside Iso's ult but I think you already know that.
This all just possibilities too, I just answered with the datas I gathered. Educate me If I'm wrong.
You cannot use any abilities inside iso's ult, so I think this applies to clove as well
So she's like I don't need yahh sage
FINALLY! US REYNA MAINS WON'T BE CALLED USELESS NO MORE!
Good god, what's funnier than one reyna. TWO RENYAS!
What's funnier than 2 Reynas? One who complains that no one is smoking... when She can 😂😂
now you'll be a useless smoker 😂
@@outsideliberty5443 uk what's more funnier having a 12 second smoke and 30 seconds smoke regen 💀💀
Fucking useless
Reyna clove skye sage phoenix comp boutta be crazy
A dualist/smoker hybrid is crazy
You mean like Omen..?
@@QuintessenceHDomen is not a duelist
@@gaelgarcia8975
Tell that to Flexinja
Thanks mate! Quickly watched it in pick phase before my first game with it. :D
The Karthus smokes are crazy, also this is a good change for Reyna/phoenix mains, so they can learn controllers while playing similarly to the old Reyna
Or just keep playing duelist and let smoke players play smokes because you know they know how to play smokes
@@soulzy3596 idk why all controller players tryna gatekeep a role, u can be a reyna main and know how to smoke. Smokes are common sense lol
@@chilldude85you are severely overestimating reyna mains they dont even have brain to understand that they can kill and have abilities at the same time
@@chilldude85 if duelists were smart enough to play other roles we wouldn't end up with 4 duelist games every day
Agreed, I’m a reyna main that also plays omen but feels like if I play Omen I can’t be nearly as agressive, meaning we lose rounds.
Behold. The chamber of controllers
love when they make fun to play agents and not only competitive agents
the new agent just got leaked, it’s codename is Clive, Clive goes by Zey/Zem and Zey are a sentinel. C ability is a grenade that sucks enemies into the middle and makes them vulnerable. The Q is a floor trap that when triggered traps an enemy for a set time while being marked, can be destroyed. E ability is a portal you can throw on to walls and teleport instantly to another portal when walked into. The Ultimate ability can rewind time if alive and teleports the player back to where they were 15 seconds ago, they have to be alive.
I can see the decay paired with another util for instakills on round starts
Most probably shock dart
As a controller main I like her, but dislike the fact that non controller players will try to play her without any knowledge of how to smoke. Smoking when dead seems wrong to me, but along my first point, I'm concerned non-controllers will just troll teammates with bad smokes when dead. We will see.
They will only play her once or twice then they will see that they cant play smokes n give up
Your channel deserves way more recognition
Imagine this scenario: Clove is the last player standing vs another enemy, if they have ult and gets taken down: Does the round finish there or after the ult has been used or saved?
she can only ressurect if one of her teammates is alive
no respawn, round ends UNLESS you're ATK and the spike is planted.
The fact that 7 kills (or even 8 if you include Phoenix ult) are now actually possible is just insane to me
I always wanted that agents could use abilities while spectating. And finally clove has it, I would recruit this agent as soon as they're available
as an omen and reyna main, i see this as an absolute win
So just because she has 1 smoking ability she's a controller? Literally her kit is built for duelist
they were made as a solution for duelist main who don't want to fill a controller (and honestly, weak smoke is better than no smoke in a ranked game)
bro just the simple fact that she can DIE and still smoke for her teammates is INSANE.
clove is non binary and goes by they/them by the way!
They definitely need to tweak the smoke a tad for how good it is. Simultaneous smokes with decent range that last a while and can be used in death? Yea they gotta nerf part of it tbh but they look so fun
As a reyna neon main who plays viper and omen I am happy
PSA: Please learn smoke theory if you play Clove. They have good abilities for aggressiveness but are not a pure duelist
Bro if you blend reyna, brim and sage in a blender, you get this agent
EXPERIMENT:
clove is last player standing with her available ult and she is attacker with spike,
now if she dies, match ends ?? or can use ult and play round??
You need to have one teammate alive to revive yourself (I think)
Well you need to activate the ult after you die in a short period so if you rev then the round will go on but you still need to kill the other in 12 sec otherwise you die.
@@metallightning55on defense if she’s the last one alive she can’t use her ult but on attack you can even if your the last one alive
Your videos are a ray of sunshine in my day
The strongest thing about her is smokes while being dead ngl it will change the game
Placing smokes after death should be an extension of not dead yet and consume an ult orb
Her smokes last 20 seconds when alive and 10-15 when dead (cant remember exact number)
Still good, giving everyone a jett smoke is good.
It's only 12 seconds when she alive. 20 seconds smoke means she only has 10 second downtime, which is faster than omen 15 seconds -.-. It's pretty obvious her smoke last very short compared to other smoker
@@DenTRM Hey, atleast she can be somewhat useful when she dies. If her smokes are going to be really bad, they're going to buff them eventually.
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@@LongjahnI meant her, not all of the smoke agents
EXPERIMENT:
clove has ult ready and died,
immediately sage tried to revive clove AND also clove tried to use her ult
both did it simultaneously ANY GLICH HAPPENS ??
your stupid go to school
Ty for all of your Videos ❤
The newer agents and their abilities don't mesh as well as the original ones. For example, all of KJ abilities are tech relates, phoenix are fire based, omens whole thing is shadow. In contrast, Iso has a wall and a vulnerable which is odd because his other abilities are made for one v ones. or deadlock who has a wall. I know deadlock is a sentinel and without it she would be too weak, but her whole thing is being a hunter right? Sova's kit also being hunter themed has recon abilities, and his other abilities are tied to a bow and arrow which makes them stick to a theme. I cant even find a theme in cloves abilities other than they are purple. I wouldn't be as annoyed if the early agents didn't have a very clear theme in their kits and characters.
Iso is an assassin with tech powers I guess? Idk about Deadlock and this one though
Might be a bit of a stretch, but I'd say that Clove's abilities all revolve around life somehow. She can use her smoke whether she's alive or not (E), she can take life away (Q), she can "absorb" life (C) and she can bring herself back to life (X).
Post plant, this is a pretty insane ultimate. Imagine playing an angle 1v1, time's ticking, and you kill her, but then u gotta rush to spike for defuse, and she has 5 seconds to wait for you to start running before ulting. It's situational, but it makes it very annoying.
not insane,imagine u 1 vs 1
u need to kill ur opponent in 11/12 seconds/plant bomb
ur enemy hide/run
u die again,the enemy can defuse easily
very bad for 1 vs 1
if u are the attacker
@@dereknichols4376 Except you forget situations where you play for time which is how you're supposed to do. You force a fight at 10 seconds left by playing distance. If you die, you res within 2 seconds, and bait out another fight and force spike to explode... 12 EXTRA seconds is all a guy needs to stay alive for to stop the defuse, in fact it's a hell of a lot of time. Except for viper/brimstone molly's , this is definitely the best ability to play time/post plant at a distance.
clove can smoke after death but god forbid cypher's traps work after he dies.
I feel like they should've given her the ability to either smoke while dead OR the ability to revive. Having both seems way too strong.
I mean they kinda did. She can only res with her ult.
not that strong,she will need to kill/assist
If ur enemy outaim u=his ulti basically useless
I agree it seems OP on paper. But in reality, it's like Sage's revive. The animation is long and it gives away the fact you're still there, coming back to life. It's easy to punish unless Clove has a teammate around to trade. The smokes is what I'm concerned about, that decay is absolutely gross
Can you get 7 kills, if sage ults Clove and then, after Clove dies, Clove ults herself?
Man, the fact that she can place smokes while dead feels so broken because it ensures all your teammates can have smokes for cover regardless of you being dead or alive.
Wow she actually makes me want to play controller, she's like a mix of Reynas overheals and phasing with her ult and viper or fades decay. Plus being able to smoke even while dead plus if she can move around the area she died in she'll have comms better than anyone in the game
Oh dear god, guess I’m not queuing comp till the next patch
oh dear god guess im playing cs so i dont need to see gay agents
@@rev0live752thankfully the character isnt as ghey as i thought it would be. if we just ignore the fact that she is nonbinary or whatever it'll be fine
@@rev0live752 facts
@@rev0live752then why are you in this video and this deep in the comments bruh 😂
EXPERIMENT:
clove after using ult, she will be like a dismissing reyna and then spawns,
now in dismissing state, can she pass through deadlock wall?
and also,
will deadlocks sonic sensors activates while in clove dismiss state??
As a Deadlock main, I assume that Clove might be able to pass through the wall, but I think the sensor will still activate since it is based on sound. I think when Reyna is becoming invisible, the sensor still activates, and I assume it might be the same case here
js imagine this agent coming back to life after the opponent shot her to stick the final defuse, js for her to SPAWN behind and hs them.
Good players realize that she’s an alright controller. The only good thing going for her is that she can smoke after death, but her smokes only last 12 seconds so it’s fairly balanced. I’d still choose brimstone over her purely because of his moly + ult
So clove can get a speed buff as an Ability, but Phoenix can’t get one as a part of his ult?????
0:44 also can this recharge after getting a kill while having the buffs?
May be one charge, but that decay is quite op, and can save herself during ultimate state...
The smokes last 12 seconds, thought i do believe they regenerate faster.
so she can smoke like brim, heal like reyna, use kay/o knife but for decay, and revive like sage 💀☠️ I can already see the nerfing
So they're Reyna and Iso's child with an actual ult and smokes?
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I'm Reyna main mostly, because of her overheal and invulnerability effect, her ultimate is just extra buff for me. I touched some smokes and ngl, i loved playing brimstone because of his pad with smokes but i don't feel his other abilities that satisfies me because i always play more aggressive. Now i can play both, smokes and kill enemies because i think Clove is just pure made for me, and for the first time i feel like i'm gonna spam this character abilities and use probably all in one round. Good Job Valorant
careful,people hype too for deadlock
but after they play it=99% of them stop
I mean, i wasn't hyped about Deadlock. First time i saw her i only thought about "interesting character", but with her skills only barrier is mega useful tbh. I think this one is gonna be one of better picks because of after-death smokes and being able to help your team even for a while on her ultimate. For this agent set of skills are very useful, overheal, hp reduction that makes you opportunity to kill hit enemy with it even from classic, smokes and self-resurrection for 12s. or permament (depends on assist or kill). So the variance of her skills make it more powerful
Placing smokes after you have died is crazy
After using your ult you have to earn a kill/assist. Does the assist without dealing damage count (for example if you put a smoke on someone)?
I think they said it must be a damaging assist.
So now i cant go pee when I die because my teammates might need my smokes?
You can also press X to come back faster into the round.
2 things:
1-does the afterdeath smoke yo show up for the person who’s being spectated?
2-can you still pick up or plant the spike while just coming back to life?
Note for the pick me up, you can also use it if you get a assist, and you do not need line of sight
You bring joy to your audience's lives
When placing smokes after dying, is the range centered on your body or the team mate you're spectating? It looks a bit like it's on your body
Damn. I really like her abilities
I can see so many troll plays with the ULT
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@@Longjahnsht up
@@Longjahnanother correction? bro has no life
@@Longjahn nobody cares go outside and make friends
@@Longjahn gfys
Can you drop smoke when you are dead and then use your ult? This would give you cover to get yourself back up.
no
what if the attacking team gets eliminated but clove gets killed last and has their ult and could still plant. does the round then not end when clove dies?
EXPERIMENT:
cove has ult ready and enemy deadlock pulls in her ult,
clove DIES or can use ult and SURVIVE ??
Yes I think she can survive based on the fact we can get the fake Yoru in the ult and thus wasting it. So Clove will die and come back, business as usual I think
Kinda of insane that you can do it even while dead ...
placing smoke after death is huge
can you smoke inside of an iso ult while spectating someone?
Yo let this man cook 😭
Her kit is so overloaded. Great job riot.
Can you test if she uses her ult after the round ends or after spike donation interaction?
iTs tHeY
I like her, placin smokes after death is a crazy
now, will kanga change his profile picture again?
What happens when an attacker Clove is the last one standing and gets killed? Do they still have the ability to self-revive, even if the defending team has already won?
Looking good to me, or interesting at least. Another one of these "rewarding a kill" type abilities, like Iso (and Reyna). It's an interesting way to keep the characters different playstyles a bit.
The controller gets assists for blocking enemies using smokes. Does that count as assist when using ultimate?
The speed boost looks like a slightly faster brim stim or the exact same as the brim stim.
one question if attackers plant and kill everyone and the last one they kill is clove with ult does it end the round or force to wait for clove enemy to use ult?
She just feels like reyna but better becouse not focused around being completly selfish
She is kinda overpowered, Like a mix of Pheonix, Omen, and Neon. I can see the meta changing so that every team has a Clove, which i hope they can nerf her somehow (like no regenerating smokes when dead)
could never really decide wether i wanna play duelist or controller, lucky now that there will be a combination of both soon
does it count as an assist for her ultimate if she just hits an enemy with her meddle and a teammate kills them?
it will beu seless in 1 vs 1
the enemy can just run/hide for 12 seconds
and u will die again
as an aggressive omen main, this feels oerfect
Can you pick up the spike while in ult/dismiss?
What if your'e on a 1v1 situation or a 1v1 post-plant situation then you died with clove?
This is the kind of agent you pick if you want to get baited by your teammates
Kanga you know that in ISos ult the 1v1. Can you steal ult on the Iso's Arena??
This can be used in a 1v1 clutch with spike down to prevent defusing
now your team can't complain about not able to use a smoke agent😭
I've got a question for ye, what's heavier? A kilogram of steel? Or a kilogram of feathers?
Fuck bro she's reyna sage brim omen and Jett combined
Yknow many moons ago i had said they should make someone with *some* of renata's abilities from league to Valorant...this person's abilties are very similar in a way and im happy about it lol. The ult namely being very similar to Renata's W that gives you a few seconds to get a kill or assist or you wont revive
who the fuck is renata
Think Viper visually but for League of Legends@@dereknichols4376
Would Clove's ultimate work in Iso's realm?
as a duelist player this is the best agent i can use this agent as duel or controlling
She seems like an actually fun to play agent.
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@@Dielock123 yes
this could be playable in soloq. when it comes to replacing omen in the meta on the other hand i am not so sure. Paranoia is just better than meddle, pick me up is conditional which is never great and the effect itself isn't the best either. I would consider shrouded step to be more versatile and consistent overall, given it can function as a supporting gap closer (for example following the Jett in her smoke), an escape tool and grants access to elevated positions. Then there is the one-way aspect, i will just assume the smokes are coded like brimstone, so clove loses quite a lot of very useful one-ways. The range limitation not to mention, and i think clove's smokes don't last 18s but don't quote me on that. (Edit: 12s, which gives her 18s of down time)
The advantages clove has are the post death smokes, which is very hard to evaluate since there hasn't been such an ability in the game yet. As for the ults, neither of them greatly alter the way a round is played out, but again, from the shadows is a very versatile tool while not dead yet is, again, conditional
Clove’s smokes last 12 seconds
@@censaria1263 thanks for the clarification. that is just atrocious, i hope they adjust the numbers soon
Jett was the only duelist with smokes, this new character is going to fit perfectly my playstyle.
But also completely broken lets be honnest
broken how?u need to kill with is ult,otherwise u die again
not broken at all
Clove movement with temet 💀
this agent is a mix of Sage, reyna and brim
So after the ult if u get a kill u are alive for ever?
nah man I said that often "this agent is OP"
but not gonna lie this looks way too strong
I mean this is insane
You can smoke, you can smoke after you died, you can overheal after a kill, your Q is removing 90 HP (with luck you hit the whole team + a raze nade all dead) and you can revive yourself...
that happens when riot cant decide if they want to make a controller or duelist
You need to be in line of sight of the Q go get decayed, the decay doesn't last that long, it definitely is dodgeable. Smokes pad range is terrible and they last less than any other smoker (she can't stall, she can't take space).
She is pretty solid though, but isn't overpowered as many people believe. If they die the team rotates Clove won't be able to help.
However I believe she will be really useful in soloq. Can't wait to see the reynas who never touched a controller use smokes in the weirdest way possible.