Britain’s Windrush veterans: the battle to be British
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- It’s been seventy years since 492 passengers disembarked from the Empire Windrush at Tilbury Docks. Invited to Britain as part of the first generation of workers from the Caribbean, some went on to serve in the armed forces. Over the decades they served in conflicts around the world as British citizens - or so they thought.
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In the Afro Caribbean centre in Peterborough veterans meet up and play dominoes - and reflect on a Britain that has seen so many of their generation faced with deportation and their immigration status questioned. Warning - this report contains offensive language.
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Well I'm black and was born in England in 1962, I am a child of that Windrush generation but I have never felt British even at 57 years of age and living in England my whole life. Growing up in the 60s and 70s was so traumatic, the beatings, being spat on , abuse, intimidation and beatings by police those things stay with you. It was always made clear to me growing up that I wasn't wanted here and its clear that even in 2019 nothing has changed. Oh, its more sophisticated now but the underlining message is still there....your're not wanted.
Well said👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Blackbeard You could say the same about Americans, Australians and South Africans. You guys in Europe talk so much like you’ve only ever stayed in one continent. You guys stole other lands.
Good,feel,same
Blackbeard he was born here, he shouldn’t have to leave just because some people are scumbags
As a white English man in his 30's my experiences on racial behaviour in England seems that most English dont see black people negatively and most racial abuses is directed at Indians or muslims than on black people and I grew up in a poor family with poor friends and had some black friends growing up and yes, racism still happens but that'll happen where ever you are in the world, if you look, act or dress differently to someone else, people will use that as a means of attack or will associate them with a certain group and tbh, I'm proud of the black british we have and see no problems with them at all.
The police are cunts especially if you grew up poor and look poor because they'd associate that image with criminals and sadly, many blacks are poor and some turn to crime like white chavs do and so the police are unjust towards these groups purely based on looks rather than actual evidence and that will never go away sadly.... Change will be slow as we adapt with the differences but prejudice will never go away and it's something we are all built to do, you have all judged others based on appearance and this is the truth. I have been judged and called names in my past with people who knew no better and even though it wasn't because of the colour of my skin it was for other features that I have no control over like for having a big nose or big lips or because of my slightly bucked teeth. People are dicks and it's best to ignore them.
Teresa May screwed them so much. Thank you for showing this. They had British Citizen on their passports! When did it change?
They come from a British Commonwealth and ARE British citizens. Just as Puerto Ricans are here in the States.
The problem is that in most of these Caribbean countries constitutions when they were going Independent is that you have a time frame that you have to file for British citizenship, if you don't then after that time frame past they will give u the nationality of the country u were born in.
They never applied for a british passport.
Thankyou so much Channel 4 for highlighting this issue when do many others just ignored it - a well deserved like from me 👍👍
What an incredible piece of moving journalism! Well done Channel 4 News. ☯️☮️💖
You've never had to live alongside the fuckers.
I love hard-working respectable black men! This is so sad blatant racism!
Peace unto
it needs to be realised and remembered that the Windrush Horror highlighted between 2014 and 2019 speaks to The Racial Contract subjecting nonwhite bodies to this epistemic closure and ideological violence along with the accompanying policing (surveillance). It is this context of captivity that has to be challenged for it creates this condition of global terror:
“the only workable method of controlling immigration from the Commonwealth without either bringing such immigration to a virtual standstill or ostensibly discriminating against immigrants on a basis of colour [...it] would apply equally to all parts of the Commonwealth, without distinction on ground of race and colour, in practice it would interfere to the minimum extent with the entry of persons from the ‘old’ Commonwealth”
Source
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/16/windrush-scandal-the-long-betrayal-archived-documents-david-olusoga
cambridge.academia.edu/omalone1
You've met such a person?
Thank you for posting and highlighting this.
A very moving and accurate documentary. Theresea May has so much to answer for.
If a person fights for a country they need to b seen as a citizen. How dare u use these men, have them risk they lives and u say they not citizens.
I hate that the torrys are doing this.
Hey
@@analogeit 🤜🏾
FYI it's Tories
I landed in Southampton 1961 at age 14. Does that make me a part of the Windrush generation? 🤔
yes
I'm still wondering WHY? why did Britain do this?
For the same reason they enslaved us for 400 years ! Power, hate, subjugation, insecurities, greed... and on and on.
@@gettygets872 yes, this is true...this is true!!! they NEVER did stop this race hate...I started looking into my history and realised that Europe and America now make more money by raping Africa...than they did during slavery!!! I'll NEVER forgive...so I have started to hate now too, I don't want to...I have to.
Do what? Precisely?
Has the Queen ever acknowledged them?
nope
Prince Charles did.
@@msjapan112
Charles never gets credit for being the forward thinker he is.
@@M.M0709
Prove it.
@@M.M0709
Everything you don't agree with or dislike is not necessarily fake news, where is the proof?
What I dont understand is why they never got a British passport after all these years. Have they never traveled anywhere in 6o years.
They should have been citizens automatically.
They were born British citizens.
@@chuckemeade they where born British, until Jamacia voted to leave the empire. At this point, those people born in Jamaica had to make a decision about which citizenship they wanted. These people did not decide for some reason.
@@grahamt5924 The fact that they never left Britain for Jamaica showed which choice they made.
Free Speech
Free Press
Free Tommy
@benbow2
Rats like you, are the type to claim you care about the elderly, and those who fought in WW2, or people from that generation in general, but still lack even a small amount of empathy, for these people, and the way they were treated by the government.
My uncle Louie😊
This is so heartbreaking to hear their accounts ! Racism is absolutely so nonsensical it’s crazy to fathom that people view others as less than because they are a different skin colour !! We are all humans ! Black people are not aliens with different body parts ! We all are the same ! Different shades different features ! It’s heartbreaking to think about this which still happens today in 2022 !
But yet we still love em
Hello.. That's what I'm saying..
When that woman was upset saying that they sang rule Britannia but now we treat our enmies better then the Carribbean such a sad affair really..
My mum, she is very patriotic and very passionate.
She should have been ashamed of singing that song. But when you're so eager to be accepted by whites....
@@ijumaainjabulo5983 what? I mean it's upsetting that she considered it a place she could call home and actually probably valued the country more then the people living there. But was still treated badley is a damn shame really Should have been welcomed with open arms.
I know the Queen and/or Monarchy is just a figure head in UK. However, it's high time that this beloved Queen utilize her authority in a matter such as this. I wonder what would happen if the Queen or Crown Prince should step up to the Government about her royal subjects from the commonwealth, who came to the call to serve and protect. Will she tell them to stop this inhumane actions? It's time for the Queen to do her part, after all, she was there when her subjects were called and it was her they came to serve. The Queen is needed to intervene in this matter.
What I saw was very informative. Had to stop due to annoying background music and could not hear testimony.
But they should be prouder coming from sub-Saharan Africa I can never understand these people that want to play their British
The fashion was so respectable in those days
As "British" as this Englishman is Zulu.
Brit- ish The real covenant- man
I appreciate the history.. But to love a place that didn't love you back is crazy to me. 🤔Wish they didn't disown their roots from the Islands.. Very disheartened..
Those people of the Windrush Generation were properly subjugated and stewed to subjugated perfection.
1 OF THE many reasons, I feel, that 'we'/'us': "P.O.C.": Should_ -surely; = "boycott the military!!"!!
My heart bleeds for these people - classic Britain, sell a lie to decent people, use them & disrespect them.
My uncle said when a lady showed him the mattress on the floor for a bed, he said if he could have rolled up his pants foot and walked back to Jamaica, he would have but he couldn't, very sad.
Exactly. He never went back. The welfare office was closer.
They should stand for their right to stay there because they built Britian, but not to fight for being British, embrace being African be proud of your heritage.
The whole point is that they never took up a British citizenship when they where given the choice to. Just like Brexit now. People are having to choose where they want to be citizens.
The reason for this is that the people in Jamaica wanted to be independent of Britain. At that point those who where British had to choose to be either Jamacan or British. These people decided to remain Jamacain and are now treated as foreign citizens.
@Akani Baone
Britishness, is also their heritage.
It really make me sad how on earth they going to send this people back they haven't done anything wrong!!! In fact they have the right to live in England they serve the country and help to shape England after world war.. me 1st is a very dangerous word why called great and United if people don't accept human being?!.
They were used, they served their purpose so they dont need them anymore.
The only thing they shaped is welfare payment graphs and crime statistics.
Pierce I am glad to see you and your team stand up for what is right. Deporting these people is disgraceful. I know you are not racist but many still are and shame on them!!!
can people understand that anywhere in the world you born that's the place is home. so most of these people great Britain is not their home.you must first recognize your home that the place is your home
@Bennett Stephenson
What does your incoherent comment mean? They've lived here, longer than the place they were born.
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I absolutely love Una Marson. Her poetry is divine. Love her, love her. love her ! 14:05. First black woman at the BBC.
I’ve bought Una Marson’s biography and a book of poetry. Excellent.
Damn!!!!
This is shocking they way the people of the windrush generation were treated and still being treated as second class citizens . They are very hard working people full of Pride and hope. 😮😢
We were never asked.
The choice is simple to anyone who isnt happy in England. Leave
You must very insecure huh?. Only cowards runaway. Any man who is man will change the environment if he do not like it. That is exactly what we are doing. You can run and hide now.
Bro,European,poeple,go,same,way
Shame on England
The British should pay reparations and set up houses in Kingston for those awarded compensation for retirement once in pension age. It is too expensive in the UK so with awards sum then they can have a good life with a right to return to the UK anytime.
Name calling sons of Lucifer.
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Interesting.
Don't you ever get tired of lying?
What
I never knew about this until yesterday. I just assumed Jamaican people moved there. ☹️
That's why people need to research before attacking others
Because of their skin color or backgrounds
How yuh mean ? They did move there, after being recruited to go, just like how to this day nurses are recruited from Jamaica to go there. The problem is that they were recruited under the pretence that they were British. They were given the title "British subjects", then the rules were changed on them without proper notification. Many of them thought that "British subject" was the same as British citizen because they were given British passports before independence. The Crown used and discarded them, just like they did during slavery. The Crown and Theresa May are a damn disgrace !
COMMUNITY!!!!!
The median of 18 reasonably representative samples gives us an IQ of 80 for Jamaica. This is also consistent with Samms-Vaughan (2005 ), one of the more recent and methodologically robust studies, which shows an average IQ of about 81.3 Mar 2013
Read the bell Curve.
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