SMG4 AVATAR THEORY

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  • Опубліковано 22 вер 2024

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  • @PG2994
    @PG2994 2 роки тому +91

    My theory is that perhaps the "Avatar" status can be passed down to the original Avatar's children.

    • @SorielHDTBers
      @SorielHDTBers 2 роки тому +11

      You took the words right out of my mouth!

    • @SorielHDTBers
      @SorielHDTBers 2 роки тому +4

      @@Errr_-ui9rg that’s not what they meant

    • @PG2994
      @PG2994 2 роки тому +14

      @@Errr_-ui9rg I meant like if the Avatars had children in their own universe, then once the originals died, they'd become the new Avatars. Not that every Avatar from every universe is related.

    • @SorielHDTBers
      @SorielHDTBers 2 роки тому +1

      @@Errr_-ui9rg oh

    • @Blessy.EXEreal
      @Blessy.EXEreal 2 роки тому +8

      That is correct according to the official SMG4 wiki

  • @torchrandom9059
    @torchrandom9059 2 роки тому +55

    I can excuse the plot holes of the Guardians and Avatars.
    I can excuse the plot holes of Mario having flashbacks to being a baby.
    I can even excuse any other plot holes I’m forgetting (probably something to do with how Melony was ever needed for the whole, Niles plan thing)
    What I can’t excuse is the fact that Mario was somehow able to reproduce that fact into the future-

    • @minipz9thebastfiiter509
      @minipz9thebastfiiter509 2 роки тому +5

      and why mario recolors exist while spudnick and fred have no recolors??????????????????????

    • @vocallyamongus1300
      @vocallyamongus1300 2 роки тому +5

      @@minipz9thebastfiiter509 dude smg2 is a recolored spudnick and smg0 is a recolored fred

    • @andyg2401
      @andyg2401 Рік тому +5

      @@vocallyamongus1300 im still wondering who SMG1s avatar is supposed to be (I haven't played the sputnik game on newgrounds but I imagine smg1 is based off of that and not just smg2.
      In The other universe episose smg4 implies that smg1 may have looked the same as 2 at one point but got squashed to look more rectangular. Its also strange that smg3 and smg4 both share the same avatar in Mario, unless smg3 lacks his own avatar (its also odd how there are 3 guardian pods launched, with smg1 and 2 sharing a pod while smg3 and 4 are in separate pods

  • @jendouglas9781
    @jendouglas9781 2 роки тому +32

    Ever wonder if SMG3 became evil because a small part of niles' corruption creeped into his mind when he landed in the mushroom kingdom?

    • @prosylan6368
      @prosylan6368 2 роки тому +7

      That is a good theory because his USB got hit from his beam then it might have corrupted him that would make sense as to why smg4 isn't like him because the beams miss him

    • @Q-tube1
      @Q-tube1 2 роки тому +3

      Here’s the thing
      Niles hates smg3 so there’s no way he would be part of him being part of smg3
      And it’s for that monster zero existed before smg3

    • @prosylan6368
      @prosylan6368 2 роки тому +1

      @@Q-tube1 no were not talking about niles being friends with him were talking about smg3 getting corrupted by the beam that he sent out when niles were fighting smg1 and smg2 because his USB got hit so it probably turned him evil

  • @rosegaming6098
    @rosegaming6098 Рік тому +4

    My theory and personal head cannon is that for the universe to go down with the avatar is that the avatar must be 'destoryed' by something that holds the godboxs unfathomable power.
    Think about it; the godbox instructed Niles to destory his own universe and kill off Fred and succeeded in doing so after the godbox granted him the means to do so. Then fast forward to 1 and 2, Spudnik died because of Eldritch 0; who STILL has powers from the godbox.
    Finally in the 10th anniversary video, Mario was being killed by Eldritch 0(still has godbox powers) and its only then 3 and 4 are being brutally affected by it.
    So it stands to reason that Mario could die all of those times before the Genesis Arc BECAUSE the means/reasons he died was not because of the GodBoxs intervention into this universe.

  • @VS-eb8vk
    @VS-eb8vk 2 роки тому +33

    This guy totally deserves more than just (at the time of typing this comment) around 2.4 thousand subscribers. He puts so much effort into his SMG4 theories that, to me at least, his work is more than just a couple hundred to a couple thousand subscriber quality.

    • @KyleDoesRandom155
      @KyleDoesRandom155 2 роки тому

      but he just copies some theories online, takes clips from smg4 that are related to what he is saying then puts the thumbnail in every now and then

    • @KyleDoesRandom155
      @KyleDoesRandom155 2 роки тому

      I’ll say he deserves 5k subs at best.

    • @thecextreem4865
      @thecextreem4865 2 роки тому

      What about 3.69k

  • @keynanmartinez
    @keynanmartinez 2 роки тому +23

    SMG4 sure had 11 Years of plot that is making our head hurt.

  • @Jussy833
    @Jussy833 2 роки тому +10

    Your theories are awesome to listen to, love 'em!

  • @SMG0763
    @SMG0763 5 місяців тому +1

    SMG0: Hey That’s Fred
    Niles: Yeah As It Should Be
    Fred: Oh They Put Me In The Video.

  • @redmike0523
    @redmike0523 2 роки тому +4

    Maybe Mario got iced like Luigi and shroomy

    • @redmike0523
      @redmike0523 2 роки тому +1

      Or he got turned into a Luigi doll, we know that Luigi dolls can’t age, if Luigi dolls can age how is smg4 still alive as a doll?

  • @octoguygmod
    @octoguygmod 2 роки тому +4

    2:21 Meggy said she met mario when she was 15, and now she's 19 - 20 years old, so time does exist

  • @DonutBurger
    @DonutBurger 2 роки тому +11

    That theory actually does make sense.

  • @UniverseElementalist
    @UniverseElementalist 2 роки тому +8

    It’s actually because Mario has more than one life, 1-up mushrooms exist ya know.
    Also he keeps getting revived by SMG4.

    • @MrRuePine
      @MrRuePine Рік тому

      But getting killed for REAL, like he almost did in WOTFI 2021…

    • @UniverseElementalist
      @UniverseElementalist Рік тому

      @@MrRuePine probably more of a spiritual death rather than a physical

    • @MrRuePine
      @MrRuePine Рік тому

      @@UniverseElementalist Well, yeah

  • @brunettebi4111
    @brunettebi4111 Рік тому +1

    There's 3 possibilities-
    1. It was retconned.
    2. Maybe the status can be passed down to an avatar's child?
    3. Power-ups exist, which includes 1-ups. Since 1-ups don't exist in the SMG0 and SMG1/SMG2's respective universes, yeah...

  • @taribluejay9881
    @taribluejay9881 2 роки тому +5

    Insane theory once more man, really impressive.👌😎

  • @Randomuser-ow9cr
    @Randomuser-ow9cr 2 роки тому +1

    I can explain this entire argument in one sentence; this also goes for all of SMG4 lore plot holes as well:
    It doesn’t make sense until it does

  • @genericobjectshow3440
    @genericobjectshow3440 4 місяці тому

    0:40 - Ah yes, but when I make a game and delete the player asset, the game goes "Oh well, guess you're not playing." and shows me a grey screen because it has nothing to render (lack of camera)

  • @kutura_P
    @kutura_P 2 роки тому +2

    Such a great theory

  • @ZombieDonk3y
    @ZombieDonk3y 2 роки тому +3

    Wait they all have red, why does these avatars have red on them
    They allow wear a hat, that show whats the first letter of their name

  • @themadone3282
    @themadone3282 2 роки тому +1

    Counter theory: when a avatar has a child that child becomes the new avatar for that world, and with the young Mario thing is that the world existed before the great beyond started interacting with it

  • @hey_chi1110
    @hey_chi1110 2 роки тому +3

    ok, so here's the problem:
    1. if Mario will not die from aging, then will others?
    2. so the fact that Bob is nearly 1000 years old is fake and made up by the great beyond?

    • @SorielHDTBers
      @SorielHDTBers 2 роки тому

      I think the Bob thing was a joke. Also to answer your first question: Luigi and the others were also still there in 500 years. They were in the same room too with nobody else so it couldn’t have been their grandchildren like with Mario

  • @robloxjeebusdrifty4756
    @robloxjeebusdrifty4756 2 роки тому +2

    I think this is the best video theory!

  • @IgnitedInsanity
    @IgnitedInsanity Рік тому +1

    My theory about the avatars are that they are literally the only thing that keeps everyone and everything in their universe alive.
    If they’re dead,then yes,the universe will be dead as long with them,But my theory is that basically the avatars are basically the protagonists,or the power source of the video game,and if the avatar dies,basically the character you play deleted.So basically,if the avatar dies,the game basically won’t function like it did anymore since you can’t play it anymore without a character.

  • @uuuuiu-bh7yf
    @uuuuiu-bh7yf 2 роки тому +2

    Smg4 seems that we have a novelist conundrum here Lester alternative universes

  • @BeagsandbuildCO
    @BeagsandbuildCO Рік тому

    Here's something I noticed: Every single (so far) avatar's main color is red, which is quite interesting, AND their first smg is blue, blue and red are opposites, what a about their their second smg? I dunno they just be whatever color, Fred doesn't have a second smg, did something happen? Ive found every avatar has two smg copys of themself.

  • @mechastrikecommander
    @mechastrikecommander 2 роки тому +3

    if it was 500 years into the future, wouldn't that mean 0 would have attacked by then?

  • @jessicablackhall3490
    @jessicablackhall3490 2 роки тому +3

    All the avatars are red.

    • @FortTech1428
      @FortTech1428 2 роки тому +2

      omg
      they are
      ooooooooh
      Fred is red, Spudnick is red and technically Mario is red because it wears it
      🤯

  • @Rafacolon4693
    @Rafacolon4693 Рік тому

    I wonder why the universe of smg4 is not dying everytime Mario has been hitted by guns and stuff

  • @TheAwesomeMario-n9l
    @TheAwesomeMario-n9l 8 днів тому

    The Weegee Doll Uprising was uploaded before the Genesis Arc started and btw we can say it isn’t canon since well in the end the timeline restarts and the Weegee Doll is defeated so I didn’t die

  • @hey_chi1110
    @hey_chi1110 2 роки тому +1

    omg this dude is a GENIUS

  • @oomi9030
    @oomi9030 2 роки тому +1

    Still doesn’t explain how Mario is impervious to death after all the times we see him die

    • @prosylan6368
      @prosylan6368 2 роки тому

      Probably has to do with the lives system

  • @DarkBl058
    @DarkBl058 2 роки тому +2

    I just got the key chain and it came with a letter and the letter has an the key chain and a circle and the circle has 6 circles and those circles have letters but only 3 of them do is there supposed to be more letter or am I overthinking it

  • @zanish4404
    @zanish4404 2 роки тому +1

    That's the thing the wegee uprising was just for entertainment purposes as in its non Canon not related it was only introduced later in the beginning of the genesis arc.

  • @TheAwesomeMario-n9l
    @TheAwesomeMario-n9l 8 днів тому

    So Time Does Exist but the thing I am pretty sure you mean is that most characters can’t age

  • @theeverythingstudio873
    @theeverythingstudio873 2 роки тому +4

    Ok but what about when Mario dies and goes to heaven like when he snapped his neck and goes to heaven. And is that heaven the afterlife or just a fake one.?

    • @hey_chi1110
      @hey_chi1110 2 роки тому

      probably just a made up by the great beyond.
      if you look at mario runs out of toilet paper, the hell with John Papa as the satan was probably madeup too, since Melony was close to the real satan in wotfi 2021

    • @Q-tube1
      @Q-tube1 2 роки тому

      It’s kind of a fake record video

  • @kamichase7105
    @kamichase7105 2 роки тому +2

    Here's another reason in the episode the floor is lava mario falls in and basically a skeleton and in wofti 2019 to get taris duck he blindfolded himself and got hit by a train

  • @Enderia2
    @Enderia2 Рік тому

    “Time doesn’t exist here” meggy would like to have a word with you

  • @Santagmk0
    @Santagmk0 Рік тому

    Basically if mario died in mario goes on a diet he would have destroyed his universe

  • @Just_Nightfall
    @Just_Nightfall Рік тому

    Is Mario still a Avatar even if Smg4 and 3 changed their desings and don't look like him anymore?

  • @sl1th3rysnak3
    @sl1th3rysnak3 Рік тому

    Theorists when they listen to 2:44 : Are you sure about that?

  • @yexe9129
    @yexe9129 2 роки тому

    An alternate theory for the universe not crashing once mario dies is that his descendant technically serves the role of Mario. So that might be a loophole to Mario himself no longer being alive himself.

  • @minipz9thebastfiiter509
    @minipz9thebastfiiter509 2 роки тому +2

    why mario recolors exist while spudnick and fred have no recolors??????????????????????

    • @Q-tube1
      @Q-tube1 2 роки тому

      Propably because smg4 using his powers to make people have their own characters to meme the retarded recolors of Mario
      Instead, smg0 and smg1 and smg2 are too smart to give people arcs

    • @doglover1299
      @doglover1299 2 роки тому +2

      Smg2, good Smg0, Smg4 and Smg3 are recolors of their avatars

  • @kingskulkthekingofwardens6334
    @kingskulkthekingofwardens6334 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe when a avatar dies from age, then his son or best friend would become the avatar

  • @R-K-M708
    @R-K-M708 Рік тому

    I have a problem with the theory, you know the meggy q&a she said the she met Mario when she was 15 and says that is 19

  • @Hemnin
    @Hemnin Рік тому

    In my opinion, I think there are Cannon events in the smg4 universe like in Spider-Man miles morales. And all the times mario dies are not cannon event and since Mario is the embodiment of that universe, he can just come back.

  • @Errr_-ui9rg
    @Errr_-ui9rg 2 роки тому +1

    Yea but one thing…
    WHY ARE ALL THE AVATARS RED?!

    • @prosylan6368
      @prosylan6368 2 роки тому +1

      Coincidence

    • @Q-tube1
      @Q-tube1 2 роки тому +1

      Because Fred has red in its name
      Spudnick has a d in his name
      Memoo has e in its name
      Mario wears red

  • @Explosion_Detaul
    @Explosion_Detaul 2 роки тому

    Cibles only has 2.45k Subs???? GET IT HIGHER!!!

  • @Ggamer-nc4fj
    @Ggamer-nc4fj Рік тому

    Just to clarifi Time passes maggy was an age when She met Mário and now shes older

  • @Official_ProGamers
    @Official_ProGamers Рік тому

    Mario is always in danger but he is unkillable. even when he gets shoot is won’t die

  • @bigthecatjr2511
    @bigthecatjr2511 2 роки тому

    Mario parable

  • @FortTech1428
    @FortTech1428 2 роки тому

    I would love CiblesYT to analyse the latest SMG4 video because interesting things happen in that.

  • @harpsbored4621
    @harpsbored4621 2 роки тому

    Nice theory, but the “it’s just a game” portion of the vid can be disproved, with Meggy aging form 15 at her bed it, to 19/20 now. So who knows, maybe an avatars child takes over the position, idk

  • @smallminionboy8663
    @smallminionboy8663 Рік тому

    heres my theory about this problem
    the game changes as new avatars are reproduced into it
    so its like, whne anew avatar is born, the game starts to change into the new game about the new avatar, this would also explain the name of mario's great great great..... great great grandson have a name like that

  • @atomik9469
    @atomik9469 2 роки тому

    well meggy said she met mario when she was 15 and at the time she was 19

  • @pepepaletas12321holaporqueno
    @pepepaletas12321holaporqueno 2 роки тому

    in the video 101 ways to die (the right way!) 50,000 subs! smg4 kills mario and some clones of him and the universe doesn't colaps, explain that (sorry for my bad english)

  • @redboy8648
    @redboy8648 2 роки тому +1

    Noice

  • @mariogaming1700
    @mariogaming1700 2 роки тому +1

    Hi

  • @penelopehoward3222
    @penelopehoward3222 Рік тому

    My theory is they age but nothing happens to them except they become adults.

  • @silverhero_gaming769
    @silverhero_gaming769 2 роки тому

    Meggy has aged so there is tume

  • @Gordonjamesheneryproductions
    @Gordonjamesheneryproductions 2 роки тому

    Maybe the Avatar passes down from generation to generation

  • @NathanOfADown
    @NathanOfADown 2 роки тому +1

    bro

  • @No_More_HxH
    @No_More_HxH Рік тому

    4:42

  • @dustthepikachu
    @dustthepikachu 2 роки тому

    you forgot Phillip’s theory too

  • @Gordonjamesheneryproductions
    @Gordonjamesheneryproductions 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I got another Siri do you have a car passes down to generation to generation

  • @matthewd7142
    @matthewd7142 2 роки тому

    I just think The world will be fine if the avatar dies normally cutting off the world acces poi t but if anyone like 0 gets him it croupt the world since the line to the world is infected

  • @lagzerovr
    @lagzerovr 2 роки тому +1

    @mario mario SHUIT UPP

  • @aquatic1o232
    @aquatic1o232 2 роки тому

    Wait is smg4 set Mario 64 or gmod

  • @gael2119
    @gael2119 Рік тому

    Avatar The last Airbender

  • @abouimranmenghoum1743
    @abouimranmenghoum1743 2 роки тому

    HEY CIBLES SMG4 REALESED SOME NEW LORE VIDEO IT ABOUT SAIKO LORE SAIKO LORE IS OR COMPLETED LIKE YOUR LASY VIDEO ABOUT SAIKO THAT THERE WILL BE NEW ARC MOSTLY ABOUT SAIKO

  • @sliceofstrauss
    @sliceofstrauss 2 роки тому +1

    Okay this might sound stupid but hear me out Luke and Kevin didn't think about that because they think of this Avatar s*** until last summer
    P.s I'm not trying to s*** on your fiery I just don't think Luke and Kevin put as much fun to it as we all assumed

  • @powerONdelta
    @powerONdelta 2 роки тому +1

    Oh so it's just more personalized bullshit. Thanks for making me want to quit watching the series.

    • @powerONdelta
      @powerONdelta 2 роки тому

      @@youreadopted7096 what does that have to do with sm64 being personalized?

    • @minipz9thebastfiiter509
      @minipz9thebastfiiter509 2 роки тому +1

      the mario recolors serve no purpose after the avatar theory WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!